Amneal Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Q3 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

Published: 6 Nov 2020

[Tasos Konidaris:]

Thank you, Andrew. Good morning and thank you for joining us for Amneal's third quarter 2020 earnings call. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release reporting our quarterly results. The press release as well as the slides that will be presented on the call are available on our website at www.amneal.com. We're conducting a live webcast of this call, a replay of which will also be available on our website after its conclusion. Please note that today's call is copyrighted material of Amneal and cannot be rebroadcast without the company's expressed written consent.

[Chirag Patel:]

Good morning. And thank you for joining us in the review of Amneal’s third quarter results. We are pleased with the strong performance this quarter versus prior year, with net revenue of $519 million, up 37%, adjusted EBITDA of $114 million, up 60% and adjusted EPS of $0.16, up substantially versus foresight. Our strong and consistent financial performance over the course of 2020 reflects the successful execution of our Amneal 2.0 strategy. This could not have been possible without the resiliency and excellent work of our global team. We know their dedication and commitment to providing affordable and innovative medicines to patients is an integral part of navigating the COVID-19 pandemic this year. We all know how difficult the last few months have been, due to COVID-19. And unfortunately, we are clearly not out of the woods yet. From our perspective, in Q3, we saw sequential pickup in demand and lower supply chain disruption compared to the second quarter. Having said that, we continue to be vigilant and actively preparing for the next wave of COVID-19, to ensure we meet the demands of our customers and avoid any material disruptions over the coming months. As we discussed in our first quarter 2020 call.

[Chintu Patel:]

Good morning, everyone. Thank you, Chirag. Let me first start with our COVID-19 response, and I echo my brother's sentiment. I'm truly proud of how our team members have responded and are working with our customers and suppliers to mitigate interruptions. Last quarter, we discussed that approximately $20 million of customers' orders were not filled due to COVID-19 disruptions. In the third quarter, unfulfilled orders declined to approximately $10 million. And I'm pleased to report that overall, our manufacturing facilities are operating close to pre-COVID-19 levels. We are building our inventory on hand and strengthening our global supply chain. As Chirag mentioned, since we rejoined last August, we have led a number of strategic initiatives to improve performance in a sustainable way, including rebuilding the R&D pipeline as well as operational excellence to improve efficiency across our supply chain. Let me spend a few minutes highlighting our Generics segment and R&D pipeline. Every action we take is aligned to our quality-first mindset and will continue its strong quality track record, as demonstrated by successful inspections in 2020 and all prior years. Our generic business continues to improve with strong sales and increasing margins. Our results reflect strong volume gains and increased manufacturing for alluring which enabled our commercial team to increase its market share to 23% compared to 15% in the second quarter. In addition, we are on track to deliver 15 high-value complex generic products by next August and plan to file close to 30 ANDAs this year, up from our prior expectations of 20 to 25. Our portfolio transition to complex Generics continues and over 60% of these 30 ANDAs are non-oral solid dose.

[Tasos Konidaris:]

$141 million or 37%, compared to Q3 2019. Our AvKARE acquisition accounted for $90 million of growth, which implies a quarterly organic net revenue growth of 14%, for the rest of the business. Generics performed strongly, up 17%, while our Specialty segment was consistent to prior year quarter. This performance reflects solid execution in a challenging, albeit improving market environment. COVID-19 disruption continues to be a headwind across selected products. And while the volume of patient visits is recovering, it is not back to normal levels. And acute health care utilization in line as well. As Chintu mentioned, we're making very good progress in reducing lost sales, due to COVID-19 supply chain disruptions. And we're steadily improving our finish goods inventory position. Adjusted gross profit of $206 million was up $55 million or 36% compared to Q3 2019 reflecting strong Generic sales, AvKARE and stable performance by specialty.

[Chirag Patel:]

Thank you, Tasos. We are pleased to have made significant gains this year in executing our Amneal 2.0 strategy, despite the pressures of the COVID-19 pandemic. We look forward to continuing to drive operational excellence and reinvigorate our pipeline. I would like to now turn the call over to operator to take your questions. Thank you.

[Operator:]

We will now begin the question-and-answer session The first question comes from David Amsellem of Piper Sandler. Please go ahead.

[David Amsellem:]

Hi, thanks. So, just a couple. So first, I wanted to get your thoughts on your biosimilar business. And there's a couple of questions there. One is, how are you thinking about Pegfilgrastim and Avastin biosimilars in the context of an increasingly competitive marketplace? And specifically, what you think pricing will behave like, as more competition pours in these markets? Do you think, you'll see erosion that's anything like what you see for small molecule generics? And then secondly on biosims, can you talk about other opportunities and when we could get more visibility on other opportunities that you're working on? Thanks.

[Chirag Patel:]

David, good morning. As we've mentioned before, biosimilars we have three key products, who are filed with FDA. One is to be filed soon. We are hoping and we considered biosimilars as more of a complex generics. Market will behave as such as more competition comes, more people, more doctors feel comfortable prescribing biosimilars. An intent from the Congress was to create competition and reduce pricing. That's exactly what's happening. So from the beginning, we have invested very carefully. And so far, we are only commenting on three programs, not commenting on the additional opportunities we are working on. The erosion you mentioned like small molecule? No, that will not happen. Small molecule, as you know it's ridiculous, the erosions get up to 98%, 99%. I do not expect that. It is extremely hard manufacturing lots of signs, lots of investments. So, it will more or like behave between complex higher value generics and what do you see today in biosimilars, somewhere in between. That's where my guess we will end up on biosimilar pricing.

[Operator:]

The next question comes from Gary Nachman of BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

[Gary Nachman:]

Hi guys. Good morning. First, a little of a follow-up to the last question. So, what have been the dynamics with new launches that you're seeing? How much pricing pressure? How difficult to negotiate managed care contracts. So maybe compare EluRyng and Sucralfate with Fulvestrant that was launched more recently and then expectations for complex generics going forward. And then just Tasos, on the gross margin guidance, I guess I was surprised that it came that much slower. So just talk a little bit more about the mix that's driving that. I know a lot of it is AvKARE, but is there anything else baked in there? Thank you.

[Chirag Patel:]

Hey good morning. So on your questions on complex generics, they tend to be immediate pickup by the customers and conversion to generics same as how the small molecules been working for years, its immediate conversion to generics. So we don't see any difficulties negotiating with managed care as far as the complex generics. Biosimilars is a whole new ballgame for us and we are preparing to launch these products as they get approved. So, we will -- we're learning how to -- we have the specialty group. We have the managed care group. So we'll be negotiating with various stakeholders in biosimilars. I'll turnover to Tasos for...

[Tasos Konidaris:]

Thank you. Hi Gary, good morning. Yes, there is nothing going on the gross margin other than the impact of AvKARE. So let's peel back the onion. So as you know, we think about it in terms of those three segments. So let's pick generics, which is the vast majority of our business, right? So year-to-date, as I mentioned, we are 38.4% margin, that's 240 basis points up from the same period last year. And with nine months under our belt, the overall generic margins for the year will be substantially higher than the 35% where we ended up last year. So we feel great about it, right? So the biggest part of our business is increasing revenues, increasing profitability. The second largest part of our business, right, is Specialty. So that margins there -- the gross margins, they are relatively flat. So it's about 75%. 74%, 75%. There is a lot of stability there, and there is a lot of durability, right? So we feel great about this. And then the other piece that you had is AvKARE, which as you know, it was a newly acquired business at the end of January. So when the company gave guidance in February, it was a newly acquired business. That business has overperformed from a revenue perspective, just to be clear, has overperformed on a revenue perspective, right? And just its profitability was not as high. Just because of COVID and slow down new product introductions from other companies, not our products. So that created a bigger than expected headwind, right, of how AvKARE was going to impact our results. And this is what we are reflecting by getting the guidance of 41%, 42%. As I mentioned ahead next year, AvKARE is in our base, right? AvKARE is in our base. So continue down the part from a generic standpoint of launching new products, right? Continue to expand our business. Hopefully, COVID-19 will be mostly behind us. So our utilization on an manufacturing plans should be better stability or specialty, we should see an expanded gross margin.

[Chirag Patel:]

Sure. And also, we are working to transfer many products to our U.S. plants for AvKARE's business, which will add to the top line and especially on the gross margin.

[Tasos Konidaris:]

Gary, that address your question?

[Gary Nachman:]

Yeah. That's great. Thank you very much.

[Operator:]

The next question comes from Greg Gilbert of Truist Securities. Please go ahead.

[Greg Gilbert:]

Thank you. Good morning. Chirag and Chintu, I was hoping you could share with us your thinking about the strategic importance of AvKARE, longer term. Obviously, you've lived with the asset for some time now. And as Tasos just said, it's performing well financially. So curious about the strategic importance of that asset longer term beyond simply being a diversification angle? And then Joe, I was hoping you could comment on what's going on with Rytary and in terms of face-to-face detailing versus other methods you've learned about over the past several months? And what's the outlook for continued growth on that important brand? Thank you.

[Chirag Patel:]

So, good morning, Greg. This is Chirag. So let me -- on AvKARE, we have two -- actually three avenues within the business. One is government business, which we are mostly excited about. We have multiple products from us and third parties. Being the largest U.S. domicile generics company, we have more products to offer to AvKARE portfolio. Number of products still going off pattern for the government business over the next five years. So we're substantially building our pipeline for government business. So that, we're very excited. Another part is unit dose, which is -- we launched our first product and have built up the capacity to launch eight more products in next year. Strategic importance, these are -- and third segment is direct to providers, which is a small segment, but -- and with lower margins, it sometimes is helpful to create -- to build over customer bonding and partnership because when they are in shortage, we're able to supply immediately, which is what we did during the COVID time, so it comes handy. The strategic importance is that we -- all three areas we're directly distributing to our customers, so which allows margin expansion for overall avenue, as well as increase in sales with different alternative channels. So we continue to be very excited about it. Joe?

[Joseph Todisco:]

Thanks, Chirag and thanks, Greg, for the question. Yeah, I think we were pretty pleased with the performance of Rytary for the third quarter despite the COVID headwinds. Obviously, new patient starts have been the biggest challenge across all of pharma, especially in the at-risk patient populations that aren't going back to their doctor for their regular visits. But retail remain strong. We got a decent amount of what we felt where new patient starts to keep some settlements of growth over the prior year. But we've also seen -- even though scripts maybe -- script growth may not be as high as revenue growth, but you're seeing a higher number of pills per script in Rytary spend. And I think that's indicative of more 90-day sales going out the door, which is overall good for refill rate on that brand. Now in terms of the efficacy of the sales force, a large part in the second quarter, they were sidelined due to the lockdown. And we had adapt as most companies in the industry did, and we became fairly affected in virtual promoting, holding virtual – function learns through Zoom. And I think going forward, as territories have opened up, we maintain a mix or a balance between in-person detailing and the ability to hold some of these events that we used to do in person virtually, which is why you've seen our SG&A costs come down a little bit. But we feel good about Rytary, we've got runway through 2025 with our settlements, and we're ready to return to growth in 2021.

[Greg Gilbert:]

Thank you.

[Operator:]

The next question comes from Ami Fadia of Leerink. Please go ahead.

[Ami Fadia:]

Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Two questions. Just for Chirag and Chintu, with the availability of -- can you comment on the availability of opportunities that you can add to your CNS portfolio with the Zomig, an expiry next year? What's your commitment to adding some other assets to that portfolio? And then specifically for Chintu, could you comment on the expectations on some of the new product opportunities over the next few months into August 2021. Specifically, if you can give us any additional color on the respiratory product, and then also expectations for when you might be able to get Copaxone 20 and 40-mg approved? Thanks.

[Chirag Patel:]

Thank you, Ami. This is Chirag. So CNS opportunity, as we have mentioned, that's our top priority for -- from the M&A perspective. We're looking at various products, companies and whatever fits with our neurology fill cells. And as you know, the Rytary is a lead product. We will add on to the movement disorder or particularly to PD category. So we've been active on that front. We are also building organic pipeline and movement disorder overall, which would complement with our neurological cells. K127 is an example, and we're looking to see if we can build out with the external partnership, more product partnership. I'll turning over to Chintu for the new product launches.

[Chintu Patel:]

Yeah. Hi. Good morning, Ami. So we have -- as we have spoken before, we have a very diverse portfolio, and we are very confident about launching the remaining seven products in next nine to 12 months of our complex products. And those are mainly in a nonoral solid area. We have good launches coming up in ophthalmics and topicals in transdermal. As far as the glatiramer, we expect -- we are cautiously optimistic that there will be a second half of 2021 launch. And regarding the Rytary product, at this time, we are not giving any more color than what we have done before. But it also seems like towards the end of 2021 launch, but as we go to get closure, we'll be over to provide more detail.

[Ami Fadia:]

Thank you.

[Operator:]

The next question comes from Randall Stanicky of RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

[Randall Stanicky:]

Great. Thanks for taking my questions. Two questions. First, the implied fourth quarter EBITDA based on guidance, is that a good run rate for next year? I think consensus implies a step up. So, if you could just help us understand what some of the moving parts there to that are, that would be helpful. And then secondly, Chirag, on the topic of complex products, I want to ask you maybe a bigger picture question here. The drug landscape continues to evolve and obviously, there's a lead time in terms of building the pipeline. At least one of your peers who also has a branded business has called out digital therapeutics as an opportunity, specifically adding technologies to traditional drugs. Has Amneal looked at that? And are there other 505(b)(2) opportunities or ways to differentiate that you see that you could pursue to build out your pipeline as we think about the next three to five years? Thanks.

[Chirag Patel:]

Thank you, Randall. We'll get back to your first question later on; I'll pass that on to Tasos. But let me -- on your complex products and building out the portfolio, excellent question. As we have mentioned before, we have -- see Amneal's stands as -- we have a strong generics R&D, complex products, diverse base of therapeutic categories. So, we're well set on generics. We will be refreshing our pipeline every year. Now, how do we grow Amneal? We have additionally than generics. So, one focus is biosimilars, which I mentioned, it is. It would be competitive. It would be slow ramp up. Therefore, we are more excited on the Specialty business. We have been -- we have two products, Unithroid and Rytary. We have K127 in pipeline, IPX203 in pipeline. We're looking at the drug delivery technologies, which can deliver more products in (b)(2)'s categories. And the way to look at it, as you know, the 505(b)(2) are basically taking the older molecules, one that I developed 30 years ago, 20 years ago, apply new technologies to make -- to have the lesser side effects as well as patient convenience. So, that is what we are working on and we see multiple opportunities. And it is -- it's not a new thing we're applying our knowledge and experience in this build to build out systematic pipeline, which we can introduce products every year throughout the next five years, six years, seven years, and we see tremendous growth. And as we mature, we can take that drug delivery technologies and move into more of programs and other technology-based products. So, this is where we are -- we have positioned Amneal, and we keep doing it. But keep in mind; we're not taking our eyes of the Generics business. It is a stable business, growing business and we have multiple therapeutic areas where we can constantly add products every year, over the next five years, we have seen so far. I hope that answers your question on Specialty and Generics.

[Chintu Patel:]

I'm sorry I just wanted to expand on technology and our complex. As Chirag said, complex, we have entire spectrum of diversified portfolio, and we have in-house developed technology also to address the need for the complex to bring to market because many products are customized technologies, right? On a 5050(b)(2) our second asset, which I talked about, K127 using a proprietary platform to deliver that product in a certain way. And Randall, there are many products they're great molecule, but they were not developed properly to deliver right weighing the human body to give them a good efficacy and a better profile. So, we have a few technology platforms is under evaluation, and we'll expand on that and repurpose those products to bring that to market to provide great quality of life and better drug delivery through many means. So, we are laser-sharp focused on our 505(b)(2) by using a very unique platforms. Thank you, Tasos. Go ahead, please.

[Tasos Konidaris:]

So, -- hey Randall. Just a couple of thoughts. So, we look at the EBITDA in Q3, we delivered $109 million. When you look at the implied full year guidance on what this means for Q4, that implies same will be between $96 million and $111 million. So, essentially Q4 is in the ballpark of Q3. And Q4 is a strange quarter for everybody, right? So we're in the middle of election, you got COVID, you have whole-seller inventories with the holidays and so forth. So typically, Q4 just creates just more volatility. Our ability to perfectly project Q4 for every company just at times, but we feel good about how we think about Q4. As it regards to next year, yeah, we'll give you our guidance at the end of February, right? So we'll give you guidance at the end of February. At this point in time with us, so what we're focused on is sustainability and growth, that's what we're focused on. So we're not looking to be one quarter here or anything else of the management team were looking for sustainability and growth and this is how we plan to uphold next year, okay? And I think when you look at the specialty area, but we feel very good about the sustainability and the visibility of that business. Hopefully, we'll have some additional growth as COVID subsides next year. On the Generic side, it's a race, right? It’s race. This year, we benefited EluRyng and Sucralfate. Next year, we're likely to have some competitors there, right? But there is a new pipeline, the strength of the pipeline. So our expectation and our hope is that these new products, right, will be offsetting competition on the rest of the portfolio. And finally, as Chirag said, we're very focused on ensuring every investor dollar gets invested properly, right? So whether or not the gross to net deductions or whether or not is where we spend R&D and SG&A expenses. And this year, that has been a good guide for us, right? So we're really focused on investing every dollar and continue to be as efficient as we can. So hopefully, that gives you enough to think about next year.

[Randall Stanicky:]

Yeah. Hey, Tasos, can I just follow-up and ask you, because I just don't want this to be a question lingering out of the -- with respect to the stock today. I mean, if you annualize Q4, you're getting $400 million-ish in EBITDA, consensus is close to $500 million. So do you guys have the pipeline confidence that we can see a decent step-up as we think about 2021? I know you're not going to be specific in guidance right now, but just give us some sense of -- are you confident that the pipeline can support a big step up?

[Tasos Konidaris:]

Yes. So, my view. You know, we cannot comment. Not only we or anybody else on external consensus and others, right? So number one is, if you look at this year, right, which was the first year of, let's call it, turnaround with a new management team with Chirag and Chintu came in August, there was a substantial step up in EBITDA, right, from $355 million last year to about the midpoint of the range of about $445 million, right? So that was a 25% increase. So we have seen a meaningful step-up in the business. And everything I think you have heard how we are operating this year and how we're thinking about the year. The focus is on sustainable growth next year and beyond. So I think that's as much as I can tell you at this point in time. And by raising this year -- by raising guidance, right, on EBITDA guidance this quarter, I'm not sure that supplies things are getting worse. I think the supplies things are getting better. So I'll stop there.

[Randall Stanicky:]

Okay. Thanks, guys.

[Operator:]

Next question comes from Dana Flanders of Guggenheim. Please go ahead.

[Dana Flanders:]

Great. Thank you for the questions. My first one is just on the base Generic business. I think in your prepared remarks, you had mentioned capacity utilization is back close to pre-COVID levels. And I know you've had a lot of success winning contracts this year. As you look towards 2021, is that part of the lift for the Generics business passes now? Or how much of a tailwind could additional kind of contract wins and base business maximization be for you heading into next year? And then just my second quick question on OTC. I know you had a store brand launch of V-gel with the partner about a month ago. Just curious if that's a channel you plan to get bigger in, and if there's a strategy around that? Thank you.

[Chirag Patel:]

Thank you, Dana, and good morning. So base business, we have a large commercial portfolio. We have 250 products, and we'll continue to find opportunities. We have one of the best customer service-focused just in the United States. So all three large customers and many small customers, we have a very deep customer relationship. And they're relying on our alternate supply infrastructure with U.S. and India, and Ireland coming soon. So that allows us to keep working with our customers to add on. We'll keep finding new opportunities within 250 products. So base business is stable, and we expect to grow. Not counting the competition and obviously, the new product launches like alluring and Sucralfate, that is expected. So we're very, very proud of what we have done on a base business. And rightfully so, it's a large portfolio over the years, we've built it. We have the capabilities, capacity, quality, to supply, and that's exactly what we are doing. We are one of the most reliable supplier for them and high-quality and great customer support, and we are getting rewarded for that. On OTC, we've been – we have multiple OTC, basically, the ANDA, which gets the Rx to OTC switches, more than 10 products over the years. We never fully concentrated launching OTC by ourselves. We've been supplying through a partner PLD, which happens to be a very large OTC distributor in the United States, I believe they're second largest after Perrigo. It's a private company. Long-term relationships we have over 10 years with them, the Long Island based, excellent management team and founders. So we are expanding our – the retail as we have a substantial market share already. We were the first one to introduce generic retail. So we will, obviously, will have a higher percentages in market share for the OTC market as well. We're looking at multiple switches from RX to OTC. We believe FDA would be more inclined to do that because of the patient convenience as well as cost. So, very excited about that. We'll look into other opportunities as well within OTC. It's a good field, and we have a great partner. So we'll keep expanding our portfolio in OTC.

[Operator:]

The next question comes from Nathan Rich of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

[Nathan Rich:]

Good morning. Thanks for the question. To start, I just wanted to follow-up on the topic of biosimilars. I know it's early, but I'd be curious to kind of get your kind of high-level view on what your commercial strategy will be in these markets. Obviously, we're seeing kind of more options out there, more competition. How are you guys thinking about pricing and kind of building market share as these approvals come?

[Chirag Patel:]

Nathan, excellent question. We are utilizing our specialty infrastructure-led by Joe Todisco. Looking at various alternatives, we have the existing relationships with large wholesalers who happen to be – first three products we're launching is in oncology. So they happen to be leaders, ABC and McKesson in oncology, and we enjoy years of great relationship. We want to find a practical solutions. We don't believe you need a pill cell, so hundreds of people to sell the same approved branded product, again, that is waste of resources. As doctors get comfortable, I think what more is needed is customer support, physician education about biosimilars, and that is where Joe is focusing more. Somewhat of creative partnership with a large ready oncology players such as Macassa or ABC would be also in play. We do want to start laying out the groundwork for what should be the biosimilar distribution. Why does it have to follow the traditional model? How do we work with managed care partners, the PBMs? And that's all on the table. And I would stick with what I've said before, biosimilars will become more competitive, but it has a lot of products. As you know, there's $200-plus billion of biologics, which are branded, and that is the best way to provide access and affordability in next -- now to next 10 years. So it's excellent business opportunity, but it's more fits in with Generics player, which fits in the players who are focused on the affordable -- providing affordable medicines. And that's exactly the mindset we are using to launch biosimilars. I hope that answers your question, Nathan.

[Nathan Rich:]

Yes. That's helpful. Thank you. If I could just ask a very quick follow-up to Tasios on the generics business. I think earlier in the prepared remarks, it sounds like volumes are maybe still a little bit below normal levels due to COVID. So I guess a question being, would you continue to expect to see that -- those volumes improve kind of as things normalize into the fourth quarter, just as we think about sort of a steady state for the generic segments before considering new launches that might add to that? Thank you.

[Anastasios Konidaris:]

Yes. Really hard to answer that, right? So from our perspective, we think it's -- as I mentioned before, I think Q4 looks somewhat like Q3, right? But maybe half of the country -- more than half of the country exploding on COVID, right? Now we've been done pretty well in the last nine months, right? We've done pretty well over the last nine months. So you have -- I think you have some puts and takes, right? So you have, for example, EluRyng, that should do better. Now we have uncollect capacity a bit. So that should be doing better. But then we have other products, some of our injectable products that may be under pressure as people kind of stay out of the hospitals. So I think there is some puts and takes, but we don't expect dramatic shift one way or the other versus Q3. That's how I think about this, Nathan.

[Chirag Patel:]

Yes. And next year we have said that from now to August next year, the eight more high-value products. The seven we already launched lidocaine is being launched soon. It's approved, lidocaine patch. So you can just think about that, that complex products in high-value products at tremendous values. And this is in Generics business, we've been added since 2002. Every year, we must put pressure on pipeline, I mean, new commercial products, new product launches, and it's exactly what Amneal has. And we have rebuilt this pipeline, added on more products, very excited and feel very comfortable that year-over-year. Over five years, we have new product launches, which can offset competition, which is always expected in generics for what you launched the previous year as well as stabilizing the base business and keep finding opportunities since we have a very large base business and it keep growing. So that -- I hope that answers your question, Nathan.

[Nathan Rich:]

Yeah. Thanks very much.

[Operator:]

I've seen we're coming to the bottom of the hour. The last question comes from Balaji Prasad of Barclays. Please go ahead.

[Balaji Prasad:]

Hi. Thanks for squeezing me in Chirag. Good morning. I joined the call slightly late, so excuse me if this has been asked already. So two questions from me. Firstly, on the biosimilars. We just wrapped up our Generic and biosimilar industry symposium, where lots of experts had the opinion, multiple experts had the opinion that there is a strong first-mover advantage and biosimilar. So considering your positioning in Neulasta, our Filgrastim, Neupogen where you would be number five, number six. I want to pick your brains on how you think you'll be able to break through this first-mover barrier and there are multiple moves out of here? Secondly, I want to get your thoughts also on injectables as to where you are currently in terms of your product build out and your outlook on the injectables side for next year? Thank you.

[Chirag Patel:]

Thank you, Balaji. Good morning. You're absolutely right the first-mover would have advantage in biosimilars, and it will stay there for a longer time. As market opens up, the second, third, fourth will have respective market share. It is difficult being a fair say to find creative new channels and that's what we are trying to do, government channels, the wholesalers channels, the captive channels. We do not expect to match the first-mover, definitely. And our future plans for biosimilars will be more focusing on can we be first in the first wave or second wave. I believe in biosimilars would be very difficult if we are in third and fourth wave. So that's exactly where we are focusing on. On injectable, today, we do approximately $150 million of net sales, portfolio is growing. Pipeline is growing. We're focusing on products which are more, again, complex in nature using Amneal's R&D capabilities, more suspension-based products, difficult products, the required trials and again, bringing the first to market injectable products than to compete in volume and also looking at various other strategies and injectable, very excited to grow that business over five years.

[Balaji Prasad:]

Thanks, Chirag.

[Chirag Patel:]

Thank you, Balaji.

[Operator:]

This concludes our question-and-answer session and today's annual third quarter 2020 earnings call. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.