Ascendis Pharma A/S
Q1 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

Published: 27 May 2021

[Operator:]

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the First Quarter 2021 Ascendis Pharma Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participant lines are in the listen-only mode. After the speaker’s presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your host, Scott Smith, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer at Ascendis Pharma. Please go ahead.

[Scott Smith:]

Thank you operator. Thank you everyone for joining our first quarter 2021 financial results conference call today. I am Scott Smith, Chief Financial Officer of Ascendis. Joining me on today’s call are Jan Mikkelsen, President and Chief Executive Officer; Dr. Mark Bach, Senior Vice President of Endocrine Medical Sciences; Jesper Høiland, Global Chief Commercial Officer; Dr. Dana Pizzuti, Head of Development Operations; and Dr. Juha Punnonen, Head of Oncology. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that this conference call will contain forward-looking statements that are intended to be covered under the Safe Harbor provided by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Examples of such statements may include, but are not limited to, our progress on our pipeline candidates and our expectations with respect to their continued progress; statements regarding our strategic plans, our goals regarding our clinical pipeline; statements regarding the market potential of our pipeline candidates; and statements regarding our regulatory filings. These statements are based on information that is available to us today. Actual results or events could differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements and we may not achieve our goals, carry out our plans or intentions or meet the expectations or projections disclosed in our forward-looking statements and you should not place undue reliance on these statements. Our forward-looking statements do not reflect the potential impact of any licensing agreements, acquisitions, mergers, dispositions, joint ventures or investments that we may enter into or terminate. We assume no obligation to update these statements as circumstances change, except as required by law. For additional information concerning the factors that could cause actual results to differ materially, please see the forward-looking statements section in today’s press release and the Risk Factors section of our most recent Annual Report on Form 20-F. Please note that our TransCon product candidates are investigational product candidates and are not approved for marketing by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, European Medicines Agency or other foreign regulatory authorities. As investigational products, the safety and effectiveness of the TransCon product candidates have not been reviewed or approved by any regulatory agency and no representations are made as to their safety or effectiveness for the purposes, for which they are being investigated. None of the statements made on the conference call regarding our TransCon product candidates shall be viewed as promotional and/or product commercialization.

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

Thanks, Scott, and good afternoon, everyone. Our goal at Ascendis is to create a leading biopharma company by bringing highly differentiated product candidates, addressing major unmet medical needs as fast and safely as possible to the patients. Beginning with our TransCon technology and algorithm for product innovation, we designed our TransCon Growth Hormone product candidate and developed it from idea stage to Phase 3 pivotal trial. This year we are seeing the results of our efforts as we are approaching the due date June 25th for TransCon Growth Hormone. We held our late-cycle meeting with FDA in April, in which FDA confirmed at that time that they are planned to meet the PDUFA action date. After the late-cycle meeting, FDA conducted a BIMO inspection at our Palo Alto site over a six-day period with no 483 observation. Finally, we and our contract manufacturers have also submitted a response to FDA's information request related to our contract manufacturing sites. We feel good about a potential US approval for TransCon Growth Hormone for the treatment of pediatric growth hormone efficiency. We believe our ongoing living discussion with FDA are progressing well. Based on the latest feedback, we believe we will get a label that will support the scientific basis for TransCon Growth Hormone having a comparable mode of action to daily growth hormone. The great thing about retaining the same mode of action is that patients, physicians and payers can rely on the at least 30 years of scientific and clinical data to predict expected treatment results for overall endocrine health, including growth velocity. But getting an approval is just another important step in our plan to build a market-leading product. We are all aware of our long-acting growth hormone preparation that have been approved, but not launched or have been launched, but then removed from the market. To have a market-leading product, we also have to provide a strong value proposition to patients, physicians and payers. For patients, our once-weekly TransCon Growth Hormone has in clinical trials shown safety, including hemogenic profile comparable to daily growth hormone and superior outcome measured by annualized high velocity in pediatric growth hormone deficiency compared to daily growth hormone.

[Scott Smith:]

Thank you, Jan. Turning to our financial results for the quarter ended March 31, 2021, we reported a net loss of €62.8 million or €1.17 per basic and diluted share compared to a net loss of €63.3 million or €1.32 per basic and diluted share during the first quarter of 2020. Now, let me run through some key components of these results. Research and development costs for the first quarter were €88.1 million compared to €57.5 million during the first quarter of 2020. R&D costs in the quarter reflect continued advancement of our pipeline with the primary drivers of the increase including an overall increase in personnel-related and R&D infrastructure costs. And for TransCon Growth Hormone or lonapegsomatropin, costs were higher due to buildup of prelaunch inventories investments to expand our future manufacturing capacity as well as increased clinical trial-related activities. As a reminder, we currently record all manufacturing related to lonapegsomatropin as R&D costs including manufacturing of prelaunch inventories which are immediately written down as R&D costs until we can demonstrate these values are recoverable. Since lonapegsomatropin is our first commercial product, we first redeemed these -- we first deem these recoverable upon obtaining regulatory approval. Therefore, upon regulatory approval, we will reverse prior period write-downs of prelaunch inventories as a reduction to our R&D costs and recognize the cost of such material in our inventory. For TransCon PTH, costs were higher primarily due to increased clinical trial-related activities and manufacturing-related and device-related development costs including production of PPQ batches. And for TransCon CNP, costs were higher primarily due to increased manufacturing-related and clinical trial-related costs. And finally, for our oncology therapeutic area, costs were higher due to increased manufacturing-related preclinical and clinical costs primarily related to TransCon TLR7/8 agonist and TransCon IL-2 beta/gamma. Selling, general, and administrative expenses for the first quarter were €37.2 million compared to €17.9 million during the first quarter of 2020. These higher costs primarily reflect an increase in personnel-related, IT, and other infrastructure costs, as well as increased expenses in our commercial organization as we prepare for the launch of lonapegsomatropin. Related to our investment in VISEN Pharmaceuticals, as previously disclosed, first quarter results included a one-time non-cash gain of €42.3 million as a result of VISEN Series B financing in January. Finance income and expenses in the first quarter included a foreign exchange rate gain of €34.2 million compared to a foreign exchange rate gain of €10.3 million in the first quarter of 2020, primarily related to translation of our US dollar holdings of cash and marketable securities to euros. We ended the first quarter of 2021 with cash, cash equivalents, and marketable securities totaling €771.1 million. And as of March 31, 2021, the company had 53.829379 million ordinary shares outstanding. Turning to the remainder of 2021, key items impacting expenses include the anticipated launch of lonapegsomatropin, advancing our endocrinology rare disease pipeline, expanding our activities in oncology, and investing in the TransCon technology platform including for lonapegsomatropin buildup of commercial inventory ahead of a potential launch; execution of commercial prelaunch and launch activities; investments in expanding commercial manufacturing capacity to support anticipated future demand; continued execution of the foresiGHT Trial, a global Phase 3 randomized controlled clinical trial in adult GHD and continued execution of the riGHt Trial, a Phase III randomized controlled clinical trial in pediatric GHD in Japan. For TransCon PTH, continued execution of the Phase II PaTH Forward Trial, execution of the PaTHway Trial a North American and European Phase III randomized controlled clinical trial in adult hypoparathyroidism, and an increase in manufacturing costs related to production of PPQ batches for anticipated regulatory filings in the first half of 2022. For TransCon CNP, execution of the clinical program which includes two randomized controlled Phase II clinical trials in achondroplasia, the ongoing ACcomplisH Trial and the ACcomplisH China Trial which is being conducted through our strategic investment in VISEN Pharmaceuticals. And lastly, in our oncology therapeutic area, execution of the transcendIT-101 clinical trial of TransCon TLR7/8 Agonist and advancing the TransCon IL-2 beta/gamma program into clinical development. We expect other SG&A expenses in addition to lonapegsomatropin commercial prelaunch and launch activities will include continued investments in personnel systems and infrastructure to support our rapidly progressing portfolio and growing organization. For 2021, we continue to remain on track for hitting our corporate milestones for lonapegsomatropin with a PDUFA date of June 25, 2021. We anticipate approval for pediatric GHD in the US in the second quarter, followed by a commercial launch in the third quarter and we anticipate European Commission approval for pediatric GHD in the fourth quarter. For TransCon PTH, we expect to report in the fourth quarter top line results for the Phase III PaTHway Trial in North America and Europe for adult HP and 84-week results from the open-label extension portion of the PaTH Forward Trial. TransCon CNP, we expect to provide a clinical program update in the fourth quarter. For TransCon TLR7/8 Agonist, we anticipate initiating dose escalation in combination with a checkpoint inhibitor in July for transcendIT-101 and we plan to present initial monotherapy dose escalation results for transcendIT in the fourth quarter. And finally for TransCon IL-2 beta/gamma, we plan to submit an IND or similar filing in the third quarter. Before we open up the call for questions, I want to reiterate a few points about our anticipated commercial activities for lonapegsomatropin in 2021. We anticipate approval for pediatric GHD on the PDUFA date of June 25. During the third quarter we expect to have product available in the US for pediatric GHD. During the third quarter once product is available, we anticipate beginning to provide access to lonapegsomatropin for pediatric GHD patients by onboarding patients through our dedicated patient hub. And finally, during the fourth quarter we anticipate European Commission marketing approval for pediatric GHD. We plan to provide guidance on the timing of the launch in Europe later this year. With that operator, we are now ready to take questions.

[Operator:]

Our first question comes from the line of Jessica Fye with JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

[Jessica Fye:]

Hey guys good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. I feel like you just said multiple times in this call that you're still expecting approval on the PDUFA date for TransCon Growth Hormone, but we're still getting a bunch of questions related to this being a drug device application. So on that note, I was wondering if you could talk about what interactions; if any, you're having with the device division of the FDA on TransCon Growth Hormone? And maybe is it possible to have a finalized drug label, but still have outstanding issues that need to be resolved around the device?

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

Taking a -- thanks Jess. First of all, thanks for the question. What we're doing is actually what we always have been used to do in what I call endocrinology is that, you make a combination product because that is how you basically always have been taking a unique differentiated product to the market. So, when I'm thinking about the question about we getting about the device and other things like that, it's just is part of what we call a normal way to develop a product opportunity. And when I see the questions and when I see the interaction with FDA, the interaction with the device division, which we actually have had for the last six, seven years with the design of all the factors study and other things like that, I actually feel that what I said before, I feel good Also we are in a place where we should be at that time. We have been through all what I call the necessary inspections now in the states where we still have interaction with FDA but it's more clarification on for example, manufacturing size, where we will have questions, which are typical will have been answered on an in-site inspection but it's actually getting answered now by what we call a normal e-mail corresponding between FDA and us. So from the overall perspective, it's actually really nice to be in the position we are now because the labeling discussion has progressed as we have hoped for. Everything, what we have seen is now and where we are in the process is where we expect to be, if we some ways should have talked about the optimal way to our PDUFA date from the day we filed. And Dana, do you have additional comments to it?

[Dana Pizzuti:]

No I think you've really sort of laid it out nicely. And Jess, it's really just because it is a combination product, so you can't sort of get approval on one part of it without the other, right? So they go hand and hand. And as Jan said, we've been responding to all of the requests and so have our manufacturers including drug substance and drug product manufacturers, as well as the device manufacturers. So they've received what they asked for.

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

And don't forget we are less than one month now. I think it's the 25th or 26th.

[Jessica Fye:]

Great. Thank you.

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

Thanks, Jess.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Michelle Gilson with Canaccord Genuity. Your line is now open.

[Michelle Gilson:]

Hi. Thank you for taking my question. In your prepared remarks Jan, you mentioned that the labeling discussions are going well and you anticipate a label – the label will support the scientific basis of TransCon Growth Hormone and its comparable mode of action to daily growth hormone. And I was just curious I guess two questions sort of around these discussions. Do you anticipate that that comparable mode of action to daily growth hormone offers any I guess, benefit in terms of your positioning in a formulary or I guess the ease of – sort of interchangeability with daily growth hormone? And then are there ways in the language of the label that can highlight the differentiating aspects of TransCon Growth Hormone, compared to maybe some of the other acting growth hormone in development perhaps in – you mentioned immunogenicity and injection tolerability?

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

Thanks, Michelle. When I go to the mode of action, what I actually believe and what I feel most for is the patient. I feel that when I look directly on to the labeling text from the TransCon Growth Hormone product you released so much OP would be expected to have the same distribution as daily growth hormone, which we know it's the same industrious growth hormone, the same mode of action. I felt great for the patients because it gives me strong confident that we are in a position that we can provide all the endocrine benefits that you have achieved with daily growth hormone. We can provide a treatment that basic are providing the same safety and what we have seen in our riGHt Trial in children with pediatric growth hormone deficiency, we also saw basic a better outcome. And the mode of action is basic, the way you really decide the future of each single product opportunity because it's impossible later on to basic compensate away from the mode of action in the clinical data. And the specific question where we see it and the only way we basic can compare to for example, if we look on labeling for example on other long-acting that got approved not far away, there was a clear discussion about also element which are important related to the mode of action how well it distributes in the body. And there is a complete different labeling takes that indicate how it's restricted compared to what you see in daily growth hormone. And I think from a scientific basis also providing a good explanation when you look on the clinical outcome you get the SOS product opportunity. So, that was why we designed from the beginning our TransCon growth hormone really to build on the last 25, 30 years knowledge about safety and efficacy that you give by releasing an unmodified somatropin, the same entity that you basic are having in daily growth hormone and also as an industrious product. And I see this is the benefit for the patient and I think that it also go to the physicians. They also go to the payer because the payer will understand that we are providing a benefit for all the important endocrine health benefits that you expect to always to achieve by having daily growth hormone.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Schwartz with SVB Leerink. Your line is now open.

[Joori Park:]

Hi, I'm Joori dialing in for Joe. Thanks for taking our question. I was wondering how you feel about consensus sales estimate for TransCon hGH? What is the best way for us to model the trajectory of the launch ramp? And are there any good analogs or factors that could influence adoption in this market that hasn't seen much new treatment advancements in a while?

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

Yes, it's always an interesting question because I take it from a little bit different perspective. When I -- as I said in my script, we want to build our global leading brand with TransCon growth hormone. Do we have the fundamentals for that? Do we have the fundamentals to be the leading brand in the US? Everything what has seen out of this product opportunity, TransCon growth hormone, everything what has seen to the competitive landscape give me a stronger and stronger belief TransCon growth hormone will be the leading brand in the growth hormone market. This is what is important for me. Go up and be the leading brand in the growth hormone market not only in US, but also in Europe, Japan, China, everywhere where we can be. How we come there is what I call an optimization of value creation and penetration. And I see product opportunity trying desperately to get fast penetration on the cost of value creation. We are here with a pipeline concept. We are here with multiple products that will come after each other with both label expansion, so my focus is basically not what we exactly will see of sales in 2022. But basic how fast, how well, how can we create most value out of TransCon growth hormone and that is what we focus for in this end. And we will optimize value. We will optimize the penetration and that is what we're building in.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Josh Schimmer with Evercore. Your line is now open.

[Josh Schimmer:]

Thanks for taking the questions. I have two. One is on TransCon PTH. We've talked in the past about the need to shift the treatment paradigm to broaden the patients that physicians deem suitable for PTH replacement and not just calcium and vitamin D supplementation. So, maybe you can give us a sense as to how you feel that's evolving and progressing now that you have more of the TransCon PTH data in hand? And then second, and I'm sorry if I missed this, but I think on the last update, you had indicated that you're working on a new franchise for the TransCon platform a new target? When might we hear more about what that franchise might look like? Thanks.

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

Thanks, Josh. I have never had any doubt that TransCon PTH will be a true benefit for the patient. But honestly, it's not so much what I really believe that is important. What is important is, can the physician see the same thing? Can the patients see the same benefit? And when we're looking in all the aspect of the data we are getting out from, you can say, biochemical data, quality of life, we see this huge benefit. When we hear the story from the patients, we hear the story how they're feeling to go back to a normal life, how they're feeling that is a total change of everything what we have seen and what we now also see that some of the key physician, physician that basic are treating patient with TransCon PTH also realizing this. How we can provide not for a subgroup of HP patient, for basic for the entire diversified group of HP patients we have in our Phase 2 trial, where they’re really independent on disease spectrum, independent on severity of disease all stays in, because all of them see the benefit. And the physicians are recognized it. We have seen physician and I -- just this is really interesting for me, for about half-a-year ago, we're say in past we will take 30%, 40%, 50%, 60%. What we're saying now, we will take all patients. And I think that is some way, I think, we believe that we need to have this communication now. But I believe it comes out now. I will -- perhaps it takes some time, but with more and more patients getting treated with TransCon PTH more and more that fulfill and we see how our vision is for first time to make an hormonal replacement for this big patient group is really getting fulfilled. You're right. In our Vision 3x3 we have three different supporting layer. We have executed on a late-stage pipeline now in rare disease endocrinology. We’re starting clinical development now in this year, we have two clinical programs in oncology for multiple indications. But as we said, the Vision 3x3 is our strategic pathway, how to make a leading sustainable biopharma company. It will mean that we're going for the third indication. We are initially working on it now. We're defining different lead candidates now. And we believe that perhaps in late 2022 or early 2023 it will be a good timing for us to come out with our pipeline and disclose that in our third supporting layer.

[Josh Schimmer:]

Great. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Lebovitz with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

[David Lebovitz:]

Thank you very much for taking my question. Once TransCon hGH gets approved, how do you expect payers to come online as the year progresses going into next year? And what do you expect the landscape ultimately might look like? Do you expect to go for broad coverage with a wide array of payers, or do you expect to be more selective in how you work with payers?

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

I can start with the initial answer and then Jesper can follow up. But what we're doing is that, as I've some way communicated before, we are on a pathway to develop a leading brand with our TransCon Growth Hormone. In building that, we also are building in certain manner that we are creating the value in a way where we're feeling we're optimizing the entire brand, because we need to invest in the brand. We need to invest in global reach, in label expansion, and that is what we're doing both in adult growth hormone deficiency and we will also have other indications, other trials we will do to really invest in building up this leading brand. What we're doing is that we have a state progress to make a global commercial reach and meaning is that we first place we rollout is in the U.S. Then we have Europe, and then we have China, we have Japan and then you can take the rest of the world. So from that perspective is that we also believe in a global price structure, global -- globalization much, much, much more. So from our perspective is that we integrate all this. And this is only a small step what we do initial. But what we basic are building up a model that basic are saying, how can we build out the leading, global brand specific in U.S. if you only talk about that, a leading brand in the U.S. and create most value. So we will optimize it in the best possible way. And they were starting to be saying is that we need to force ourself in this fast rollout. We will be sure that the value of TransCon Growth Hormone will basically take in and sell you more and more patients with more and more physicians that see the real value we provide to TransCon Growth Hormone. Jesper, specific for U.S. will you further comments on it?

[Jesper Høiland:]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we are having a superior product. And, of course, we would like that to see reflected in the price that we are going to approach the market with. So just to keep that in mind, we will address the commercial market in the first place as that is the biggest business opportunity for us. And as far as we see things, it is the value that is the market leadership that we will be fighting for. So if you're saying, we will not take each and every account into consideration in terms of giving it the broadest possible availability, we will certainly go for the value of opportunity that we're certainly seeing with the -- we want to take much of in.

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

I think this is a great way to answer it is actually describe what we would do with each of our pipeline product opportunities.

[Dave Lebowitz:]

Thank you for taking my question.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Alethia Young with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open.

[Alethia Young:]

Hey guys, thanks for taking my question, and looking forward to the next month. I guess, I just wanted to talk a little bit about on the growth hormone side on the socioeconomic, economic claims and the benefits to having your product versus others, and how you think about balancing that as you think the price of the drug? Thanks.

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

So mainly the pharmacoeconomic calculation we have done is basic not looking on different brands, but mainly focused on the benefit on being on a growth hormone treatment compared to not having the growth hormone treatment available or potential stopping earlier in a growth hormone treatment, because of the high burden of a daily injection. And I think this is where we basic have done most of our claim analysis. When you compare different brands, I actually think that you should for me at least when I'm looking from thinking about the patient, the physician and payer, you need to look at what you're providing of integrated benefit related to endocrine health, because this is where the social economic calculation takes in, because it's not only hype, this is the entire way to having the right way to do remodeling on the body, meaning growth hormone so much of we need to distribute everywhere in the body. Cognitive effect, which are impossible to measure in children but we know growth hormone have cognitive impact because there's also a lot of growth hormone receptor in the brain. All that is the part of why we believe it was so important for us that everyone could understand our mode of action is building on what we know that growth hormone daily treatment can give because we have the same active ingredients out there. And I think this is where we strongly believe in the benefit we can provide in endocrine health is really being correlated out to the same way and I believe much, much better than you actually receive with daily growth hormone because we don't have the high treatment burden. And therefore, we will both get better adherence and then potentially lead to better outcome.

[Operator:]

Our next question comes from the line of Anita Dushyanth with Berenberg Capital. Your line is now open.

[Anita Dushyanth:]

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. So Jan, you talked about the preliminary -- the 58-week result related to TransCon PTH. Could you give us an idea about what to think about the 84-week data? Like what are -- what do you expect to see beyond just the safety data from there? Thank you.

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

Yes. That is always a great question what we expect to see. So when we -- let's go a little bit of back 26-week, 54 and then 84, it's going to be interesting because what -- what we saw between 26 and 54, we saw the same durable response that we have hoped to see. So 26 to 54, pretty predictable really what we have expected to see. What was the unknown factor for us, which we didn't know and is going back to the scripted statement about this first time in history that basic are a trial running for one year with 58 patients getting physiological PTH treatment? And what we didn't know, when we really will kick in the normal remodeling of the bone structure which basic everyone want to have. If you go to nonsurgical HP patients, the basic you can see this high-density structure is not healthy. It's actually providing larger fracture. What we wanted to see that there is an integrated part of our HP treatment with TransCon PTH physiological PTH level we also restore the normal remodeling of the bone, so we can make them healthier. And that we actually saw already started to kick in potentially a little bit faster than we actually would have expected. We saw with our 84 weeks that we basically sold the bone markers going down now trending much more to the mid of the normal levels. And I actually think we will see that continue on the 84 weeks. And I actually think we will see the same with the bone density that you're getting the normal bone structure back and therefore you much more going down to the set score of 0. So, I think that is will be the main difference. I think from a safety perspective that was basically nothing between by 26 and 54, same excellent safety perspective. So, I think that is mainly what we will see. What we still are looking for is something like -- but we already saw that already in the beginning because there was actually some patients that have already impacted filtration rate in the kidney and that actual turned out to be pretty good and restored. So, I actually believe that what we saw with 26 and already now with 50, it's really moving into the same direction that we really are restoring the normal functional function by having a novel physiological PTH levels.

[Anita Dushyanth:]

That’s very helpful. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Our next question comes from the line of Tiago Fauth with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

[Tiago Fauth:]

Hey, thanks for taking the questions. Just a quick follow-up on CNP. So, you alluded that you want to keep the data blinded so what exactly could constitute the clinical program update in Q4? And what is currently your regulatory strategy or view to the best of your knowledge on what that could look like for that program? Thank you.

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

Hey Fauth. This is a question that we actually spend some of time talking and discussion all the time because when we are in acceleration where we have our dose escalation and it's function -- what is easy to look is safety because you can do that on a total blinded way. And if you start to see something, potentially you should be starting to unblind to see where it's coming from. But what we have seen in this trial, it's everything as we have hoped for in a safe way not even injection site reaction, not even any kind of cardiovascular risk observed any place. So it's really, really a safe treatment. So what we're doing now is the dose escalation and we will continue to have each single cohort blinded for one year. What we're trying to do is to try to select one dose or two dose to a cohort expansion effect and we hope to do that during this year. So when we come to the end of the year, we will give you an overview about the program, how we are progressing with all the different trial, from the two different you can say PaTH or two independent Phase II trial. We can give you in the best way and this is where we have a continued discussion, what is meaningful to give without any way to compromise the blinded part of this. And this is what we're discussing now and I'm quite sure we will have an interesting packet at the end of the year.

[Tiago Fauth:]

Perfect. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our last question comes from the line of Yanan Zhu with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

[Yanan Zhu:]

Hi. Thanks for taking my question. In terms of pricing of TransCon GH, I know you touched upon it from a strategy perspective. Just wondering, would we be looking at a price that is at a significant premium to daily, and if you can clarify on that? And also, do you plan to access the other pediatric indications for the growth hormone market like Turner syndrome and idiopathic short stature, which collectively could account for as much sales as the growth hormone deficiency indication? Thanks.

[Jan Mikkelsen:]

Relating to your first question, Jesper came with a clear statement. We have a superior product, we will expect superior pricing. I think there was a clear statement from Jesper, which I'd say everything. To the second question, we are dedicated to global reach label expansion. Global reach is to go everywhere in the world. The label expansion, we already started on. We have our foresiGHT Trial, which our adult growth hormone deficiency. And currently now we're discussing, what extra indication is we want to pursue in. And there's a series of interesting at this you can say indication we can pursue. And I think we have a great clinical team that basic are coming up with a very, very smart clinical design perspective, so we really can do what we want to do, ensuring there is a label expansion of our TransCon Growth Hormone to build it up to the leading brand and we will also go for the necessary indication to achieve that.

[Yanan Zhu:]

Got it. Great to know. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Thank you. There are no further questions. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.