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Q3 2019 Earnings Call Transcript

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  • Operator:
    Greetings ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the StoneCastle Financial Corp, Q3 2019 Investor Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions].It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to your host, Rachel Schatten, General Counsel of StoneCastle Financial. Please go ahead.
  • Rachel Schatten:
    Good afternoon. Before we begin this conference call, I'd like to remind everyone that certain statements made during the call may be considered forward-looking statements based on current management expectations that involve substantial risks and uncertainties. Actual results may differ materially from the results stated in or implied by these forward-looking statements.This would depend on numerous factors, such as changes in securities or financial markets or general economic conditions; the volume of sales and purchases of shares of common stock; the continuation of investment advisory, administrative and service contracts; and other risks discussed from time to time in the company's filings with the SEC, including annual and semiannual reports of the company.StoneCastle Financial has based the forward-looking statements included in this presentation on information available to us as of September 30, 2019. The company undertakes no duty to update any forward-looking statement made herein. All forward-looking statements speak only as of today, October 30, 2019.Now, I will turn the call over to StoneCastle Financial's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Josh Siegel.
  • Josh Siegel:
    Thank you, Rachel. Good afternoon and welcome to StoneCastle Financial's Third Quarter 2019 Investor Call. In addition to Rachel, joining me today is George Shilowitz, President; and Pat Farrell, our Chief Financial Officer.I would like to start the call today with an updated of StoneCastle Financial's quarterly results and portfolio review. Then I will turn the call over to Pat, who will provide you with greater detail on our financial results before I open up the call for questions.We are pleased to report that earnings for the third quarter were approximately $3.4 million or $0.52 per share. This figure was comprised of net investment income of $2.5 million or $0.38 per share, and approximately $1 million in net realized capital gains of $0.14 per share.Total assets were $169.2 million and the value of the invested portfolio with $166.9 million. The net asset value at the end of the quarter was $21.75 per share, down $0.05 from the prior quarter. We believe no meaningful credit issues currently exist within the portfolio and the majority of the underlying banks continue to be scored at investment-grade by Kroll Bond Rating Agency.Now let me turn to the portfolio review. During the quarter the company sold its equity interest in Happy Bancshares, a position held since 2014. While we typically seek income producing investments, this was the case where we identified an attractive private equity investment in the common stock of the bank.The company invested $1 million in a privately negotiated transaction and sold the position for a realized capital gain of approximately $1 million. This was a double our investment, resulting in an average annualized return in excess of 14%.As expected, the company received full call proceeds of $10 million from Katahdin Bankshares and $4.5 million for Mercantil. The company also received principal amortization payment of $1.6 million during the quarter.As we have been reminding investors on the past few calls, the company's strategic focus has been and will continue to be finding value in the banking sector. We have been in a market environment where bank sub debt issuance has been low and in our opinion current coupon rates are still not commensurate with the risk for these types of investments. However, during the quarter StoneCastle invested in two interesting bank capital securities that are effectively a form of common equity, but unlike common equity they are non-dilutive to the bank.Further these securities generate significant current income compared to the more traditional capital securities issued by banks. These securities also have some attractive features not found in traditional common or preferred securities issued by banks. As bank investors, we believe these securities represent an attractive relative and absolute value.These securities are born from inefficiencies created by bank regulations such as Basel III. I recognize that not all of our investors are bank regulatory experts, so I'll do my best to describe the securities at a high level.Banks are required to maintain a certain amount of capital in proportion to their assets. However, not all assets represent the same amount of credit risk and therefore assets are risk weighted by regulators to account for this fact. The ratio of capital to risk weighted assets can be improved by either increasing capital, issuing common equity or reducing the risk weighting of certain bank assets. Banks accomplish this risk weight reduction through the issuance of certain types of capital securities which we refer to as alternative capital securities. Although not widely known, these capital securities are not novel and have been issued by banks for more than two decades.When banks valuations are higher, banks issue traditional common equity. When valuations are lower such is now, banks are motivated to issue non-dilutive forms of equity such as the securities we purchased. Due to the reduced demand for new capital, sub debt yields compressing to 5% to 6%, and the decline in bank equity multiples over the last several years, we think this is an ideal time to invest in alternative capital securities.After several months of work to source, we purchased two such securities with a total face value of $15 million. Both securities carry a coupon of three month LIBOR plus 10% and the current coupon for both exceed 12%. These securities were acquired at a slight discount to par. Although we hope to find more investments of this type, the challenge is that these securities are generally issued privately, usually an increment to $50 million or more, and are typically done on a bilateral basis. Due to the minimum issue size, investors active in the sector are significantly larger than stone castle financial. That said, we will continue to look for additional opportunities.Overall, the investments made during the period can increase our quarterly earnings potential. Factoring in the pre payments received this quarter, quarterly growth investment income declined by approximately $0.05 per share. However, our new investments will generate quarterly growth income of approximately $0.07 per share, for an incremental quarterly increase of $0.02 per share and $0.08 per share annually.Therefore, while we had roughly $18 million of investment proceeds received during the quarter, we put $15 million to work to generate the increase in quarterly gross income, using about 17% less invested capital. This investment efficiency results in increased income, while using less of our revolving credit line. As a result, we conserved capital and stand ready to take advantage of a turn in the credit cycle and other new investment opportunities.Overall portfolio activity during the quarter, including the addition of our new investments resulted in an increase of the estimated annualized portfolio yield from 9.16% at the end of Q2 to 9.55% at the end of Q3. The quarter end schedule of investments can be found on the company's SEC filings and on the company's website.Last week we have a brief update toward disclosure from the June 30 semi-annual report, wherein StoneCastle Financial Corp was included an a named defendant in a lawsuit filed in May 2019 against StoneCastle Partners and its affiliates by one of its vendors. We believe StoneCastle Financial was mistakenly included in the lawsuit due to the similarity of company names. StoneCastle Financial filed a motion to dismiss from the lawsuit and we're waiting the court's ruling in this regard. The company retained counsel to manage the company's efforts to be dismissed from the lawsuit.Now, I want to turn the call over to Pat to discuss the financial results and provide details on the underlying value of the company.
  • Pat Farrell:
    Thank you, Josh. As I do each quarter, I will present the financial results by going through the components of the company's quarterly results in detail. We're pleased that StoneCastle common stock continues to trade at or above net asset value. We ended the third quarter with the stock at a slight premium of almost 2% to NAV.The net asset value at September 30 was $21.75, down $0.05 from the prior quarter. The NAV is comprised of four components
  • Josh Siegel:
    Thank you, Pat. Now operator, we would like to open up the call for questions.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Devin Ryan with JMP Securities. Please proceed with your question.
  • Brian Mckenna:
    Hi, thanks. This is Brian Mckenna for Devin. How are you guys doing?
  • Josh Siegel:
    Good. How are you doing Brian?
  • Brian Mckenna:
    Good, thanks. So first one for me; so I appreciate the commentary around that two investments you made during the quarter, but I’m just curious you know what else you’re seeing in the backdrop today in terms of additional investment opportunities and related yields as we head into year end. And then last quarter you mentioned that the pipeline was starting to build a bit, so I'm just curious if there's any update to that commentary as well?
  • Josh Siegel:
    Yeah, sure. Yeah, the pipeline, we’re definitely getting more inquiry. We were chasing a few transactions; they are still slow. Q4 historically tends to pick up pace as people want to do some you know before year end capital planning for their you know final audited financials, so we'll see what comes out of it, but we're definitely seeing a bit of pick up.Cecil is more and more becoming a talking point. I think people realize it's not going away and not going to be sidelined by Congress, because it doesn’t seem to be in anybody's menu or focus. It was a moment a few months ago where there was some saber rattling in Congress about it, but they moved on as usual.So yeah, I think we're seeing a little bit of pick up. We're still finding interesting transactions, they take time to find and obviously we always try to you know have a little positive surprise when we can create them. But yeah, I mean I think we’re still feeling good about what we see, still feeling good about the earnings and have really no deviation of where we're going.
  • Brian Mckenna:
    Got it. Okay, it makes sense. And then just my follow-up here; kind of bigger picture, you know obviously the macro backdrop is pretty fluid right now and there's quite a bit of uncertainty in the market. So I am curious what you're seeing and hearing from some of the community banks you talked to. You know are there any new trends or interesting trends out there that you're starting to see or you know anything on that front will be helpful.
  • Josh Siegel:
    Well, on the credit side still not seeing any particular hotspots, either by geography or major asset classes. I mean obviously used auto, which is not at a community bank sector and unsecured consumer seeing you know increased past dues, but that's more a credit union issue and not a bank issue, and of course you know it’s also a more traditional consumer lender like a Capital One kind of profile.Outside of that, no, nothing interesting. I see the general trend across the banks is they are moving to a hunker-down mode. Now maybe that becomes some tea leaves to what happens in the economy, but you know from the benefit of our deposit side of our – of StoneCastle Partners, there’s definitely been a pullback in the want for funding, which then obviously is telegraphing they want to make less loans.So I do see that happen across the whole country, including some of the larger regional money centers where they seemed to have an insatiable appetite six months ago for funding. They’ve cut back, so I think that telegraphs some worry about you know what's coming in the economy and the credit as you just mentioned, but it seems to be realized by the banks.I’d say the greatest focus because lending isn't where a lot of banks want to be extending aggressively, is really an increased focus in how do I add new technology to make me more competitive in the market, you know how do I add more products and services; how do I find a way to even further reduce my expense load by outsourcing or bringing in the software to you know make the processes more efficient.You saw some interesting transactions. There’s a company called PrecisionLender that just got acquired by a big technology services company to help consolidate the view of a given bank that’s using this platform; to say ‘okay, I'm making the loan. Let's factor in everything we do with this customer to see what the global profitability is.’ Well, that sounds like common sense. Banks historically don't have an easy way to do that; their cores don't permit that. This system connects to all of those different sub systems and gives a holistic view of the value of a client.So that’s kind of a long answer to your question, but that's kind of what we're seeing. I mean really nothing giving us any particular pause, but you know I would say the crystal ball says lending is going to slow a little bit.
  • Brian Mckenna:
    Very helpful. Thank you guys.
  • Josh Siegel:
    Sure, our pleasure.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Chris O'Connell with KBW. Please proceed with your question.
  • Chris O'Connell:
    Good evening!
  • Josh Siegel:
    Hey, how are you doing?
  • Chris O'Connell:
    Good! So it sounds like the pipeline is still looking healthier kind of looking into the fourth quarter, but I was hoping you could provide some color on potential call proceeds coming into the fourth quarter and whether that be how much you've seen so far or if you don't like to comment necessarily on that, maybe what percentage of the portfolios is availably called now compared to in the beginning of the year say.
  • Josh Siegel:
    Sure. I mean I’ll tag team this with Pat. We really haven't gotten anything to the fourth quarter, anything material of in some schedule principal and probably not expecting anything. I mean it doesn’t mean we can't be surprised, but there's also just less and less available to call out you know before at least 12 plus months from now. I mean Pat… [Cross Talk]
  • Pat Farrell:
    Yeah, I mean probably about $15 million that's available right now. In addition I’d point out that that if you look back, surprisingly 2019 we have had a lot of calls and in spite of that I think we've held up extremely well with our earnings. We've had $48.5 million this year alone as compared to last year, which was only $4.4 million.So certainly a lot of calls this year, but we have put that money to work very smartly I would say, so – but looking forward we don't really see a lot on the horizon. Obviously it's kind of kept close to the vest by the Community Banks until the time that they tell us, but nothing on the horizon as Josh said.
  • Chris O'Connell:
    Got it. And you have mentioned Cecil in the implementation that and you know there's definitely been a lot more chatter and talk about it, especially as you know there's been some more disclosures coming into this quarter from the banks. But can you maybe comment on the delay for some of the small banks out to 2023? I believe they have the option for and just whether you see that delaying some of you know maybe the demand that you would see from the lending side to some of the small banks.
  • Josh Siegel:
    Well, to the smaller one it's going to give them some breathing room, and granted once again its crystal ball, but regulators don't love having differential supervision, so...I’ll give you an example. So on capital ratios, right, it doesn't matter if you're Citigroup, JP Morgan or a tiny community bank, you have to comply with the same CET1 ratio, tier one capital and total capital ratio. That said, why is it consistently that smaller banks are basically required to keep more capital than a larger brother. There’s nothing in the rule that says that, but generally that’s just what the regulators want it to be.I wouldn't be shocked if that's what happens with Cecil, is that once the Cecil rule goes into effect for the larger banks, while technically the small banks wouldn't be in violation, I would tend to think that a lot of regulators are going to say, you know well, show me that you're at least preparing. And if a bank can't basically show that it's about ready, there wouldn't be and probably they could be put under you know unofficial memorandum understanding regulatory agreement. So I don't think it's delayed and that's the end of it for the small banks until 2022, 2023. I think they're going to be held directionally to that standard earlier, and if they can't demonstrate that they are making pretty significant progress, then it’s going to be problematic.So you know the direct answer your question, for the smallest banks, yeah, it might push back a bit, what could come from those folks, but for the banks that are you know on the larger side and are being measured on you know compliance with larger bank standards, right, once you're sort of approaching the non-small bank holding company policy statement guidelines, yeah, I think that's where they're still going to try to be ahead of it, because they don't want to find that either the rule has changed or the regulators have to be thinking about everybody differently. So kind of a long answer, but I think that's pretty much the story.
  • Chris O'Connell:
    Got it. No – yeah, that’s very interesting. And then just last one, in terms of the – you know what you guys are seeing coming through the pipeline on originations and just where you're seeing yields at versus kind of the current portfolio?
  • Josh Siegel:
    Yields for traditional product are still sub you know. We're seeing some things in the 8, 7, 6’s, 5’s. Really not interested in the 5’s, not terribly interested in the 6’s, but obviously we're pursuing a few deals in the 8’s and high 7. We don't want to put a lot on there, but that's close to fair value for a strong credit.So yeah, that's kind of what’s in the pipe. Usually Q3 is on the slower side and Q4 is where banks make decisions. In fact that’s happening now, they are just finishing up their call reports; you know month end here. So we’ll start to get an insight in what the yearend flow could be, but of course those deals, you know some will close by yearend, so we’re planning for Q1.Going back to your first question. One other thing to keep in mind, which we’ve talked about before, is the community funding CLO. That comes up for refi for us next year, so a year and change from now. That if you remember from the terms, the debt on that steps from 5.75% to 6.4% I believe and of course that's already been factored into our rate of return, because the way we accrued it is assuming what the actual cash flows would have been for the life.That said, today in the market if we were going to refinance that senior piece, it wouldn't be 640. The colour we get from the street is closer to 5%. So that gives us a lot of interesting flexibility to be able to, A, generate additional pretty significant additional free cash flow on the piece we own, but also potentially entice the banks to hang around for an extended period by you know reprinting their rates at a lower rate than they are at now. So obviously we're saving just to use a simple math 1.4% on our debt funding cost if we passed even 1% through, which I don't even know if we have to do that much or any, we'll see; it depends where things are in a year.We make more money and they save money and we extend the non-call longer. So there's a lot of interesting opportunities coming up next year on that.
  • Chris O'Connell:
    Got it. I appreciate the colour. Thanks for the time.
  • Josh Siegel:
    Sure.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. [Operator Instructions] It appears there are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back to Josh Siegel for any closing comments.
  • Josh Siegel:
    Thank you, operator. Well, everyone thank you for listening. As always, we appreciate your interest in StoneCastle Financial Corp. Likely we’ll not speak to many of you until 2020, so on behalf of the entire management team, we may extend our best wishes for the holiday season, and see you next year, unless we talk before that.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.