BigBear.ai Holdings, Inc.
Q3 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

Published: 12 Nov 2022

[Operator:]

Thank you for joining the BigBear.ai Third Quarter 2022 Conference Call. This call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] And I will now turn the call over to Josh Kinley, Chief Corporate Development Officer of BigBear.ai. Thank you, sir. Please go ahead, Mr. Kinley.

[Joshua Kinley:]

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to BigBear.ai's 2022 Third Quarter Earnings Conference Call. I'm here with Mandy Long, our new CEO; and Julie Peffer, our Chief Financial Officer. During the call today, we may make certain forward-looking statements. Listeners are cautioned not to put undue reliance on the forward-looking statements. BigBear.ai specifically disclaims any obligation to update the forward-looking statements that may be discussed during this call. Many factors could cause actual events to differ materially from the forward-looking statements made on the call. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions, and as a result, are subject to risks and uncertainties. For more information about these risks and uncertainties, please refer to the forward-looking statements section of the earnings press release issued today and our SEC filings. We will also discuss some non-GAAP financial measures during the call today. These non-GAAP financial measures should not be considered a replacement for and should be read together with GAAP results. You can find the GAAP and non-GAAP reconciliations within our earnings release. Now I'd like to turn the call over to Mandy.

[Amanda Long:]

Thank you, Josh, and thank you all for joining today's call. I'm thrilled to be here for the first time as CEO. And 30 days into the job, I can see very clearly that we have the right investment thesis, talent and technology to thrive as a software and services business. We had a solid third quarter with total revenue of $40.7 million, our highest quarterly revenue to date representing 8% quarter-over-quarter growth. We also made significant progress on our cost savings initiatives and expect these initiatives to result in more than $20 million in annualized savings as we move into Q4. We made some mistakes earlier in the year around how we were managing spend, and we lack the necessary operational rigor. I'm committed to addressing these in my new role in collaboration with my leadership team. BigBear.ai is building a better world through better choices. And our superpower is working with some of the most complex information to find and reveal what really matters. We support decisions, often an incredibly dynamic and high-fixed environment, and our customers depend on our technology and expertise to achieve critical mission from shipyards to hospitals to battlefields. I'm focused on a comprehensive review of our talent and our portfolio. And I'm defining the path to unlock the value that exists here through focused, disciplined growth to drive shareholder value over the long term. The three main objectives that we're rolling out this week to guide our path forward are as follows

[Julie Peffer:]

Thank you, Mandy. Let's turn to our third quarter results. Revenue for the third quarter was $40.7 million compared to $40.2 million in the third quarter of 2021, about 1% year-over-year growth and 8% quarter-over-quarter growth driven primarily by the September award of the GFIM OE Phase 2 contract. Our Analytics segment drove $22.7 million of revenue this quarter compared to about $21 million over the same period last year, which is 8% year-over-year growth, largely attributable to the addition of ProModel and the GFIM award in September. As we stated last quarter, we expect our Analytics segment that drives higher margins to continue to grow faster than C&E, which will improve our overall margins as our business mix shift. Revenue in C&E was $18 million this quarter compared to $19.2 million in Q3 of last year. The decrease was primarily the result of lower volumes on certain procurement programs. Backlog was $288 million at the end of Q3, which is down 11% compared to last quarter. This was largely driven by contracts converting in Q3 revenue as well as a few contracts with expired period of performance at the end of the federal government fiscal year. For these time and material contracts, the customer did not spend to their contractual limits, so our backlog was reduced for any remaining funds when the period of performance was completed. This is a result of the ongoing shifting priorities we've seen throughout the year. We are continuing to review our backlog in detail to ensure we have integrated a common methodology and practical application across all of our acquired businesses as we move forward. As a reminder, we revised our backlog calculation methodology in the second quarter to more accurately depict awarded contracts from 5 categories into 4

[Amanda Long:]

Thank you, Julie. As I shared in my earlier comments, we have the right investment thesis, talent and technology to thrive as a software and services business. We know that we still have work to do. And my leadership team and I are committed to improving how we manage our business and choosing new and existing investments that will lay the foundation for our long-term success. We shared several steps that we've already taken today, and we'll keep you updated as we implement additional measures to achieve these goals. We're now happy to take your questions.

[Operator:]

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Louie DiPalma with William Blair.

[Louie Dipalma:]

And Mandy, congrats on your appointment as CEO.

[Amanda Long:]

Thank you very much.

[Louie Dipalma:]

For Mandy or Julie, last quarter, BigBear.ai's FutureFlow Rx health care simulation platform won a significant deal. And the Shipyard AI platform also gained some traction as it relates to supply chain. Did the commercial momentum continue in the third quarter even as the macro environment has globally deteriorated?

[Amanda Long:]

So I'll start and then maybe after my comments, I'll also ask Jeff Dyer to add a few additional pieces of color because I think there are some interesting things that we're seeing emerge. I think particularly, frankly, as a result of some of those factors that you mentioned, we have -- we saw an early deal. We've implemented our first emergency room use case. We have an additional prospect pipeline that I think looks promising, not only from a direct standpoint, but also from an indirect standpoint as we have some great channel relationships emerging. I would say in kind of in aggregate, overall, I see our commercial business having a really good outlook. But Jeff, I want to hand it to you to add a little bit of additional color.

[Jeffry Dyer:]

Thanks, Mandy, and thanks for the question. Louie, good to hear from you. She said it well. We're continuing to make investments in our sales pursuit, building only quality pipeline and differentiating with our existing clientele with expanded offerings. Mandy alluded to our first emergency room department customer. Again, lots of exciting progress that we're making with both new clients, direct and indirect as well as bringing new products and new innovations to our existing customer base, which is allowing us to expand those relationships.

[Louie Dipalma:]

Great. And for the GFIM contract that you referenced on the earnings call, this has been a contract that investors have had their eye on. You discussed in your press release about how you are partnering with Palantir. Can you provide more details in terms of what aspects of the solution you will provide versus what aspects Palantir would provide? And potentially any detail on what the economic implications are in terms of you partnering with Palantir versus if you were to do the contract entirely yourself?

[Amanda Long:]

It's a great question. So I think it probably makes sense, Louie, to set the table a little bit on the deal itself. So the GFIM contract win, it's a 9-month contract valued at $14.8 million. And that award builds on the previous work, and we talked about this in other reports, and the successful delivery of a prototype platform, that's what we did during Phase 1. So where we are is entering Phase 2 and getting into the contract phase for production, right, that's where we're headed into 2023. I think from a relationship standpoint with Palantir, we have a great relationship with them. I think the short answer is that we are, frankly, still doing work around exactly where some of the areas where we have superpowers, right, and where our partner does. I'll ask Tony Barrett, who runs our federal business. Tony, do you want to add a little bit of additional color there?

[Tony Barrett:]

Thanks, Mandy. And thanks for the question. I would say the relationship between us and Palantir is complementary. It's not competitive in this particular offering. In fact, we have several partners that we're going into this solution with to include Appian. So what we've done is we're leading the way with a multimember team approach, which answers all of the government's questions and allows them to get the best solution.

[Amanda Long:]

Great. Thanks, Tony. I think...

[Louie Dipalma:]

Sorry to interrupt, Mandy or Julie. I'm under the impression that eventually when the contract shifts from the prototyping phase to the production phase that the annual revenue will step up to around $30 million per year. Is that a good estimate?

[Amanda Long:]

Julie, do you want to go ahead and answer that?

[Julie Peffer:]

Yes, I'm happy to. Yes, I think that's a good estimate. I mean obviously, that is not a firm number completely yet, but we do expect it to be -- the estimate is it's a 5-year contract, and we think it will be roughly $30 million a year. We expect it to be a fairly quick follow-on to the Phase 2 contract.

[Louie Dipalma:]

Great. And a final one from me. You mentioned, Julie, at the end of your prepared remarks that you're making an amendment with your Bank of America credit facility, what is the total liquidity position now with that amendment?

[Julie Peffer:]

Yes. So we just finalized actually yesterday, our new restructured credit facility with Bank of America. The new agreement, we're going to have access to roughly $25 million of the credit facility going forward, and it's going to be related and based on our really strong government receivables. We can -- we're going to provide more of the details on the terms of that agreement within our Q. But again, we are really happy to get that locked back in. It's going to be $25 million. We don't expect to need that access to that in the near term, but really happy that we were able to get this finalized and back in place.

[Louie Dipalma:]

Okay. So with that in your cash on the balance sheet, there's about $47 million of liquidity, is that...

[Julie Peffer:]

That's right. That's right.

[Operator:]

And our next question comes from Vivek Palani [ph] with Northland Capital.

[Unidentified Analyst:]

I'm Vivek [ph] on behalf of Mike Latimore. I have a couple of questions with me here. The first one is, have you seen more hesitancy among corporate prospects given the macroeconomic environment?

[Amanda Long:]

Vivek, thank you for the question. Yes, I just want to make sure that I understood. Was your question in relation to the commercial pipeline that we're seeing? I just want to make sure I understand it.

[Unidentified Analyst:]

Yes.

[Amanda Long:]

Got you. So what we're seeing in general, right, and we talked about this in terms of -- when we look at the second half of this year, we're expecting that part of our business to represent about 8% to 10% of our revenue. I think when we look forward into 2023, one of the initiatives that I mentioned and that we're spending a lot of time talking about internally is this idea of find rare earth. And we see a lot of capabilities that we have from a technology standpoint that are certainly viable to commercial enterprises, and we need to go do the work, right, to understand and validate those use cases in the field. But from within the portfolio that we have today, we have products today that are highly relevant that I have an evangelical customer base, and we are doing more and more to make them available.

[Unidentified Analyst:]

And do you expect to be EBITDA positive in FY '23?

[Julie Peffer:]

It's a great question. I think as we talked about, Mandy, has been here now about a month, less than a month, but we are continuing to work toward our 2023 budget as we speak, and that process is ongoing. We haven't completed that process. But once we do, we're planning to announce our guidance as we announce our completion of Q4. So we'll let you know how that plays out, but we're not making commitments yet on 2023.

[Unidentified Analyst:]

All right. One last question. Are you foreseeing any enhancements in the sales strategy?

[Amanda Long:]

I want to make sure that I understand your question there, Vivek. So you asked whether we were foreseeing any enhancements in our sales strategy? Are you talking about in terms of how we do our mix of go-to-market? Or maybe you could help me understand a little bit more.

[Unidentified Analyst:]

On the go-to-market part.

[Amanda Long:]

Got you. So when we think about -- and I'll focus on the commercial business because I think that's probably based on where some of your questions have been, but we can certainly expand to talk about more. Within the commercial side, we have a -- and over the course of 2022, we brought in a really high-caliber enterprise sales team. That's part of Jeff Dyer's organization. We are seeing that really bearing fruit as it relates to both direct and indirect channels. So I talked a little bit and alluded to some of the things that we're doing from an ecosystem standpoint and with partners. That's something we see a lot of opportunity for on a go-forward basis, and we're spending some cycles there. I think the mix and the approach of how we go to market, more of kind of our focus right now in terms of our messaging and otherwise is to, frankly, create additional clarity and make it easier for customers to discover and quickly understand the products that we have available in market today for the personas that we service.

[Operator:]

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Ittai Kidron with Oppenheimer.

[Harshil Thakkar:]

This is Harshil on for Ittai. I just wanted to ask about the cost-cutting program, just how far along are you? And how much more in terms of savings do you think you still have to realize?

[Amanda Long:]

Thank you very much. So we have made a ton of progress on our cost savings initiatives. I'm actually -- I'm incredibly proud of the work that we did in the third quarter. When we look out being able to achieve more than $20 million in annualized savings as we go into 4Q is, I think, a big step forward. From a go-forward basis, is there more to do? I think the honest answer is that 30 days into the role, I'm still going through and doing the type of comprehensive analysis that you would expect, right, not only from a tool standpoint, a spend standpoint, talent, kind of just how we operate. I think the kind of short answer is that wherever we can look for opportunities to be more efficient, we will. I think we've done an effective job of managing and stabilizing kind of the near-term liquidity challenges we had that we talked about. Julie, do you want to add any more color?

[Julie Peffer:]

Sure. Yes, yes. Let me just elaborate on some of the cost savings initiatives just to give you a flavor for what we've done and kind of what's coming. So in total, we've identified more than $20 million of annualized savings. They're coming from both labor and vendor savings. So we've really focused on both areas. We started that effort in August and September, but you're basically -- we've got one -- essentially 1 month of the cost savings initiatives as benefit in Q3. But you'll see a full quarter's worth of that when you get to Q4. So that helps you with your run rate. During our call in August, we committed to going through and doing a comprehensive review of all of our expenses. And as part of that process, I think I mentioned in the script, we had to do -- we had to make that difficult decision to do a reduction in force. That was executed at the end of August. In addition to that, we were able to also reassign some of our really talented team members across both G&A functions and R&D functions into billable roles for both existing and new contracts. So that reduced our need to go out and actually hire additional people into the company. And so that really helped mitigate our operating expenses as well. And then in addition, we found some significant opportunities to reduce vendor spend, including a reduction of several of our office locations. Those cost reductions are going to, all across the board in our vendor spend, help us to really meet that guidance commitment that we made about negative single-digit loss in the second half of the year. And if you take that and kind of move that forward into how does that -- what does that mean for 2023, as I mentioned before, we're developing our full year budget now. But we, of course, expect to leverage the savings we've already achieved this year as we move forward. There's going to be areas for sure that we're going to need to invest in and make really key areas of focus. But we will continue to be very prudent in terms of our investment areas and then focusing on driving additional efficiencies, all of this through the lens of good housekeeping and repeatable pattern. So thank you for the question. Really appreciate the opportunity to really give you some color on what we're doing to save, yes, cost savings in the company.

[Operator:]

There are no further questions at this time. Now I would like to turn the call back over to Mandy for any closing remarks.

[Amanda Long:]

Thank you, John. I just wanted in conclusion to say a big thank you to everyone who joined today. We are incredibly fortunate to have a group of customers and partners and investors who believe deeply in the mission of this organization and the path that we're on. I have no doubt that we are right now on the path and at the beginning of what is going to be an incredibly successful transformation. We are, frankly, sitting on one of the most exciting things I've seen in my career, and it's a privilege to be able to be the CEO. We are excited about talking to you about some of the things that we're going to be doing in the coming quarters, and we appreciate the questions. I hope that everyone has a wonderful rest of their day. Take care and stay safe.

[Operator:]

This now concludes today's conference. Thank you for joining the BigBear.ai earnings call. Have a great rest of the day.