Cellectis S.A.
Q4 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

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  • Operator:
    Greetings. Welcome to the Cellectis Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2020 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. Please note, this conference is being recorded. At this time, I will turn the conference over to Simon Harnest, Chief Investment Officer. Simon, you may begin.
  • Simon Harnest:
    Thank you, and welcome, everyone to Cellectis fourth quarter and full year corporate update and financial results conference call for the 2020 fiscal year. Joining me on the call today with prepared remarks are Dr. André Choulika, our Chief Executive Officer; Dr. Carrie Brownstein, our Chief Medical Officer; and Eric Dutang, our Chief Financial Officer. Yesterday evening, Cellectis filed its annual report and issued a press release reporting our financial results for the fourth quarter and year ending December 31, 2020. These reports and press releases are available on our website at cellectis.com. As a reminder, we will make forward-looking statements regarding Cellectis financial outlook in addition to its regulatory and product development plans. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ from those forecasted. A description of these risks can be found in our most recent Form 20-F filed with the SEC and the financial report, including the management report for the year ending on December 31, 2020, and subsequent filings Cellectis makes with the SEC from time to time. I would now like to turn the call over to André. André, please go ahead.
  • André Choulika:
    Thank you, Simon. Good morning, and thank you, everyone for joining us today. 2020 has been focused on advancing our company objectives. Despite the challenges the world is facing, Cellectis has achieved key milestones. And we are incredibly grateful and proud for all the hard work achieved by our team, our partners and our stakeholders during this challenging year. Showing of the progress we've made in 2020, while moving into 2021 determined on our commitment to a cure . We're thrilled to share with you over the next half an hour this progress and our vision on an exciting future for Cellectis. In 2020, we fully entered into clinical development of our first three wholly-controlled clinical programs. With our pioneering allogeneic UCART cell programs in ALL, AML and multiple myeloma. We are developing alternative targets to the overcrowded CD19 and BCMA landscape. We have already shared early data on our ALL program BALLI-01 at ASH in December. All three programs are currently enrolling patient in Phase 1 dose-escalation trials. And we are investigating differently for depletion regimens. While 2020 was an extremely challenging year with a significant impact on logistics, Cellectis successfully completed the construction of our in-house manufacturing facilities on time in Raleigh, North Carolina, and in Paris, France. Both facilities are now up and running with a tech transfer between Paris and Raleigh happening in the first half of this year in order for Raleigh to start manufacturing GMP UCART cell batches in the second half of this year.
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Thank you, André. I would like to start with our first proprietary product UCART22 our CD22 directed TALEN gene edited allogeneic off the shelf CAR T-cell product candidates currently being evaluated in patients with relapsed and refractory B-cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia or B-ALL. We presented preliminary data from patients enrolled in the first two dose levels of our Phase 1 dose-escalation trial BALLI-01 at the American Society of Hematology Annual Meeting in December. This is the first publicly released data from Cellectis BALLI-01 clinical trial. As of the November 2, 2020 data cutoff, seven patients were enrolled and five patients received UCART22, following lymphodepletion with fludarabine and cyclophosphamide or FC preconditioning. One patient failed training and one patient was discontinued prior to the administration of UCART22 due to an adverse event related to the lymphodepletion regimen. Importantly, no patient experienced dose limiting toxicity, immune cell associated neurotoxicity syndrome, graft versus host disease, adverse events of special interest nor Grade 3 or higher adverse events or serious adverse events related to UCART22. No patient discontinued treatment due to a UCART22 related treatment emergent adverse events. Two patients in dose level one achieved an objective response of complete remission with incomplete count recovery or CRI at day 28. One of which attained a complete remission or CR at day 42 and proceeded to hematopoietic stem cell transplant after subsequent therapy with inotuzumab. One patient in dose level two achieved a noteworthy reduction in bone marrow blasts of 60% at screening to 13% at day 28. after treatment with UCART22 and subsequently progressed. Host lymphocyte reconstitution was observed in all patients within the DLT period, and correlative analysis of UCART cell expansion and persistence remains ongoing.
  • Eric Dutang:
    Thank you, Carrie and good morning. Before I provide a brief overview of financials for the quarter and year end, I'd like to spend a few minutes on some of our business development activities in 2020, and in early 2021. In particular, at the beginning of 2021, we announced our alliance with Cytovia, which includes up to $760 million of development regulatory and sales milestones, and we also received single-digit royalty payments on the net sales of all partnered products, commercialized by Cytovia. We also received an equity stake of $15 million in Cytovia stock or an upfront cash payments of $15 million if certain conditions are met by December 31, 2021 as well as an option to invest in future financing rounds. In 2020, we announced our collaboration with Iovance, an gene edited TILs with significant undisclosed development and sales milestones, plus royalties on sales, along with an amendment of our partnership agreement with Servier with up to $110 million in development and sales milestones plus low double-digit royalties on sales. For the later, we will potentially receive in 2021 a milestone payment from the first pivotal trial of ALLO-501A in Large B-Cell Lymphoma. Finally, as a reminder, we are also eligible to receive up to $2.8 billion in development and sales milestone, plus high single-digit royalties on sales from Allogene related to 15 targets. We will potentially receive in 2021 a milestone payment from the launch of the TRAVERSE trial of ALLO-316 in renal cell carcinoma. Now on to our financials. The cash, cash equivalents, current financial assets and restricted cash position of Cellectis, excluding Calyxt, as of December 31, 2020 was $244 million compared to $304 million as of December 31, 2019. This difference mainly reflects $28 million of proceeds received from Servier in the first quarter of 2020 and the receipt of $21 million set guaranteed loans, which were offset by $102 million of other net cash flows used in operating, investing and lease financing activities. This cash position is expected to be sufficient to fund Cellectis standalone operation into late 2022. This runway discounts any future milestone payments. The consolidated cash, cash equivalents, current financial assets and restricted cash position of Cellectis including Calyxt was $274 million as of December 31, 2020, compared to $364 million as of December 31, 2019. The net cash flows used in operating capital expenditure and were $86 million at Cellectis and $44 million at Calyxt in the full year of 2020. The net loss attributable to shareholders of Cellectis excluding Calyxt was $54 million in the full year of 2020, compared to a net loss of $75 million in 2020 -- 2019. The $21 million increase in the net reserves between 2020 and 2019 was primarily driven by a significant increase in revenues and other income of $44 million, which was partially offset by an increase in SG&A expenses of $5 million and a decrease in financial gains of $19 million. The consolidated net loss attributable to shareholders of Cellectis including Calyxt was $81 million, or $1.91 per share in the full year of 2020 compared to $102 million, or $2.41 per share in 2019. The consolidated adjusted net loss attributable to shareholders of Cellectis excluding noncash stock-based compensation expenses was $67 million, or $1.77 per share in the full year of 2020 compared to $79 million, or $1.86 per share in 2019. We are laser focused to spend our cash on developing our deep pipeline of wholly-owned product candidates in the clinic and entering operating our state-of-the-art manufacturing facilities in Paris and in Raleigh. On the other hand, our focus on maintaining an efficient corporate infrastructure should enable more limited growth in G&A spend. With that, I would like to hand the call back over up to André for concluding remarks. André, please go ahead.
  • André Choulika:
    Thank you, Eric. Again, we're very proud of the organization and team that we have built over the past years. We started treating the first patient in pediatric ALL in 2015 under compassionate use protocol with the first ever gene edited allogeneic CAR T-cell therapy. Those babies are now young kids in school and continue to be tumor free. This is what motivates us, our entire team to get to work every day with the mission to save the lives and offer a treatment option to those cancer patients that have exhausted all other treatment options. Fast forward from 2015 to today, we now are fully integrated gene editing biotech company with seven therapeutic development program and clinical trials including three wholly-controlled targets based on our proprietary TALEN gene editing technology. To further expand our current clinical pipeline, we are in the middle of finalizing preclinical work on a series of new allogeneic CAR T-cell targets, and other product candidates. We strongly believe that our proprietary cell and gene therapy platform combined with our in-house manufacturing facility and our broad clinical pipeline will lead to a paradigm shift in the cancer therapeutics and cell therapies in general, positioning us at the forefront of this promising scientific field. With that, I'd like to open the call for Q&A.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. And our first question is from the line of Michael Schmidt with Guggenheim. Please proceed with your questions.
  • Michael Schmidt:
    Hey, guys, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I actually had a question around your investment into the CAR NK space, that’s part of the Cytovia collaboration. I was just curious if you could share maybe how the Cytovia technology and approach together with your TALEN approach, how that might differ or compared to what others are doing in the CAR NK space, and longer term how you think CAR NK cell products might be positioned relative to CAR T products within oncology indications? Thank you so much.
  • Simon Harnest:
    Thanks, Michael. I appreciate the question, and thanks for joining us this morning. This is Simon. Very good question. We make very selective business development deals with very high quality technology partners. We want to be very selective, as I said, because there is just such a wealth of new technologies coming into the market. And we think Cytovia is one of the best partners in the iPSC derived NK cell space. So that's obviously a space that captures a lot of momentum currently. And we can make a significant difference here by adding our TALEN gene edit. And this collaboration is also positioned more as an investment for Cellectis due to the fact that we actually have an equity stake in the company rather than an upfront cash payment. So we are very encouraged by the progress of the company so far, and we're continuing to be very excited about the growth that can come out of this collaboration. As we said, we have obviously over $700 million in development milestones, regulatory milestone, some sales milestones. But for us, it's much more interesting to actually make a significant change to improve with gene editing, what is a very wonderful scientific platform on the iPSC derived NK cell front So for us, it's a foray into this phase. This will include some solid tumor targets as well. But without taking the focus and resources away from us to focus on our off the shelf CAR T-cell treatments, which we think are the best shots on goal for the targets that we're pursuing. And André, feel free to add anything.
  • André Choulika:
    Well, it's, in fact something that is important for us because there is a lot of selection among all the gene editing technologies and we see more and more people that are focusing on TALEN interest, because of the performance of the technology and the quality of the cells that comes out, plus Cellectis is a one stop shop in the field of gene editing. It means we have the electroporation technologies, we have the TALEN technologies, we have other gene editing technologies and we have a huge amount of experience in handling cells and editing them. On the fact of between NK T cells et cetera, Cellectis to focusing on T cells. Cytovia is focusing on NK. We cannot be on all fronts. And we believe very strongly that the focus that we have on primary T cells is very promising and very straightforward currently because of the successes that we are starting to see in the field. The NK, we believe in them. We think Cytovia is the best partner to do it. But we don't think that Cellectis should spread itself into all directions. Why in the T cell space, we like primary cells, for the simple reason that T cells are more of a cocktail than NK cells. There's of course, like different types of NK cells, but in the space of T cells is CD8, CD4, gamma delta, T-central memory, et cetera. So it's a cocktail that is part of the knowhow to Cellectis and how to extract this from a leukopak of the healthy donor. And that's also not within the reach of immediate reach of finding a product on something that would be a sophisticated product in there. Now, we believe in the iPSC and stem cell differentiation and something that we are very excited about the technology of Cytovia that comes out from very prestigious labs in the West -- on the West Coast, and we think that it's going to deliver very strong results at the end.
  • Michael Schmidt:
    Okay. Thank you.
  • Operator:
    The next question comes from the line of Gena Wang with Barclays. Please proceed with your questions.
  • Gena Wang:
    Thank you. I also have one question regarding Cytovia partnership. Just wondering the -- is there any color you can share with the initial targets. And also will Cytovia or Cellectis be responsible for manufacturing? And second question is regarding the CS1. CS1, I know your clinical whole list was much faster earlier than expected. Can you give a little bit more color, what FDA was looking for and then what was the modification of a protocol going forward for the program?
  • Simon Harnest:
    Yes. Hey, Gena, thank you so much for the wonderful questions. Maybe I can take the first part of the question, and then I'll direct it over to Carrie, who is the Chief Medical Officer, who can answer a little bit of the background on the CS1 program. So for Cytovia, they will be responsible for the manufacturing of their NK cell programs. We provide the technology for them needed to make the gene editing part, which is a pretty straightforward system that we have perfected in-house and which we have already provided for example, Iovance's TIL programs for gene editing approaches there. So it's a similar setup. We haven't given too much color around the target. Obviously, the company is still a private company and has the benefit to move forward without disclosing those targets too early, but the mix of solid and liquid tumor targets. And Carrie, maybe you talk a little bit about CS1. Thank you so much.
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Yes. Hi, Gena. Nice to hear you. So, yes, we were really pleased with the lifting of the hold back in the fall. And as we had previously disclosed to everyone that the hold initially was due to a patient death at dose level 2 during the dose limiting toxicity window. We are planning on sharing data, hopefully very soon from these first group of patients from last year prior to the hold. And with that, we will be providing additional details on what we were -- what we've done to reopen the study.
  • Operator:
    Our next question is from the line of Salveen Richter with Goldman Sachs. Please proceed with your questions.
  • Salveen Richter:
    Good morning. Thanks for taking my questions. I was just wondering if you could provide us with some timelines for the program -- the new programs moving into the clinic, be it genetic diseases, as you mentioned, or you're looking to file INDs or these natural killer iPSC cell programs?
  • André Choulika:
    Yes. Hi, Salveen. Thank you so much. So first of all, the timelines for our new INDs that Carrie mentioned briefly on the call, this is something we will talk much more about this year as we're progressing towards IND filings. What we do want to show is that we have been quiet for the last couple of years on our preclinical development and our gene editing platform, while at the same time actually making a lot of progress on that front and we would really like to show the street, what is under the surface of Cellectis because we are a world leading gene editing company with a platform in T cells internally. We have partnerships with leading companies in NK cells and TIL, and we have a gene therapy program that we would like to really put front and center as a new pillar of value for the company. But for us, the biggest focus and timelines this year is it's getting very exciting with our clinical development of our current proprietary CAR T program. We are advancing this to the dose escalation phases that we mentioned. So we expect some very interesting data flow out of our current clinical programs. And then we expect new IND filings within 12 months. So bear with us just a little longer. I think we'll give more information in the second and third quarter of this year, as we're getting really close to this IND filing.
  • Salveen Richter:
    Thank you.
  • Operator:
    Our next question is from the line of Hartaj Singh with Oppenheimer. Please proceed with your questions.
  • Hartaj Singh:
    Great. Thank you for the question and all of the progress. Just one question, companies out in the field of problems locating things as simple as also plasma, mRNA, et cetera. A lot of it seems to be vacuum, nothing to the COVID-19 space. How -- André, how are you positioned with your Paris and Raleigh facility in this regards, also being autonomous by the end of this year? And then I just have a quick follow-up after that. Thank you.
  • André Choulika:
    Thank you very much, Hartaj for the question. I think it's an important question. And we took the decision in 2018 to start constructing our manufacturing plant, and we take -- took a decision was to split in order to go fast on the first phase, and because the second phase would be longer. So the first phase was essentially to build up a manufacturing plant, fully GMP to manufacture DNA, plasmids, mRNA, for the payment, and vectors to bring the CARS inside itself. And that's operational since 2020 and stock producing. Imagine, in 2020, with the COVID crisis, trying to order an mRNA with what's happening in there, even a plasma et cetera, it's becoming a real complication. And when I'm saying that Cellectis is full integration kind of one stop shop goes like from the idea at the bench, and so we can manufacture everything. All the raw materials to make a CAR T, mRNA, plasmids you can immediately have them, we have all the quality system around us. We have all the vectors, all the mRNA, everything gets shipped to Raleigh. Raleigh is going to go operational this year. And the cell and gene therapy is becoming a more and more tense market. And the fact that we can build everything internally, including sometimes the buffer, but the electroporation technologies are ours. So we can tune up all the little details around this. I believe, today and 2021 is one of the biggest strengths and it differentiate the company very strongly.
  • Hartaj Singh:
    Great, great. Thank you, André. And then just a quick question on UCART123. I think last year with the new IND you had mentioned, that you'd be looking at patients with maybe a better performance status, maybe a year slightly younger group of patients. And there might be a little bit more of a window between the core -- between doses, has that change? Are you still sort of going through those initial phases off that escalation protocol? Thank you for all the questions.
  • Simon Harnest:
    Hey, Hartaj, maybe I can take it and I can hand it over to Carrie. So we're currently dosing patients at dose level 2 at the arm of addition of alemtuzumab to the preconditioning cycle. So we actually do two arms of the study in parallel, one with plus alemtuzumab. And Carrie, maybe you'd take over here for the patient population retreating and the dose escalation plan forward.
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Yes. So thanks for the question. So, as Simon points out, we have two arms now open in that trial, and we're evaluating using alemtuzumab or not -- using alemtuzumab in this patient population. And I think it's important to point out and make that clear. Patients with AML are somewhat unstable is the right word. But it's a tough group of patients to crack. They tend to be older, they tend to have poor performance status, et cetera. So it's really critically important to look at preconditioning using alemtuzumab or not because alemtuzumab can sometimes add its own issues. So we want to be sure. That said, in terms of their performance status, the protocol, it allows people with relapsed refractory disease, we have some eligibility built in to ensure that patients -- we are enrolling patients that should be able to tolerate any side effects that we would expect, like cytokine release, et cetera. But that said, as I said, patients with AML tend to be unpredictable. What I'm very comfortable with and proud of is we have a really strong medical team, particularly in a leukemia space that I've been building since I joined early last year, and we're very close with our investigators, we're very close and speak with them regularly and discuss the patients and go over all of their criteria to ensure that we all think that this is the appropriate study for those patients. So I feel confident that we're enrolling patients that can tolerate our products, so we can get some answers in this very difficult to treat patient population.
  • Hartaj Singh:
    Great. Thank you.
  • Operator:
    Our next question is from the line of Yigal Nochomovitz with Citigroup. Please proceed with your question.
  • Yigal Nochomovitz:
    Great. Hi, André, Simon and Carrie. Thank you very much for taking the questions. I just had one on UCART22. Could you clarify what you mean by the correlative analysis of cell expansion and persistence? Do you mean correlation of cell expansion persistence with response? And will this analysis determine whether you need to adjust the lymphodepletion regimen? And then a separate financial question. You just -- could you just comment where you stand with respect to your stake in Calyxt? Is that something you would consider selling to further finance the company? Thank you.
  • André Choulika:
    Yes, thanks, Yigal. Maybe first question for Carrie and I can start with the second question really quick. So for Calyxt, we're over 50% shareholder in the company. We love what the company is doing. They actually have what we believe is a very strong period of growth ahead of them. So please monitor their earnings call as well, that just happened back last night or yesterday. It's a wonderful company with a scarcity value because it's the only publicly traded gene editing company in the agricultural space currently, with a full focus on sustainability and improving crops in the ag space for consumer consumption. It's, again, something that we don't expect anytime soon. Carrie, if you want to answer the question on 22, thank you.
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Yes, sure. Thanks so much. So, correlative analysis are basically all of our translational work, where we're going to be looking at the lymphocyte recovery, the subsets T, NK, B cell subsets as they come back, and correlating that with our expansion data on the cells -- on the UCART cells as well as efficacy. And we're looking at that very closely to help us understand what our best foot forward will be whether or not we need to make any additional adjustments to the preconditioning, et cetera. So we can give these UCART cells the best chance of success.
  • Yigal Nochomovitz:
    Okay. Thank you very much.
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    You're welcome. Thank you.
  • Operator:
    The next question is from the line of Wangzhi Li with Ladenburg. Please proceed with your question.
  • Wangzhi Li:
    Hi. Thanks for taking my question. I have two question too. The first one is regarding the new programs you expect to file IND this year. And Carrie mentioned also there's a new direction for genetic disease. So, my question is, can you provide more color in terms of the number of new INDs this year? Is this one program, model programs? And for the genetic disease, can you provide any more color on what kind of direction or space assuming that actually will approach for genetic disease? Any color will be helpful. And then the last question is on the CAR NK partnership. Can you provide some high level color on the target? Can -- will it be non-overlapping with your current cardiac targets or is allowed to for some same targets?
  • Simon Harnest:
    Thanks, Wangzhi. Very good questions. I will have to say short answer for the first question. We will provide more color on our programs that are previously undisclosed in the second quarter of this year. So we will give you all the details then. And just rest assured it's a very exciting program where we think we have a huge differentiating technology for. So it's something that currently cannot be done with any other technology. For the second question on NK cells, André, do you want to give a little more color on the targets? I don't believe we have given that color.
  • André Choulika:
    Well, hi, Wangzhi. While we haven't disclosed the targets, because it's more on the Cytovia side to say this and like we’re -- we -- everyone's copying on everyone in this space, and more specially everyone's copying on Cellectis in this space. So if you want to hear about what we're doing, then like -- it's like good fuel, the market a new IDs. And we'll definitely do this, but like to prepare ourselves as much as possible to try to like move forward very rapidly. But on the Cytovia side, I think that nothing of this was disclosed. We are super excited by the IDs we've been growing together. And it's -- no, there is no information we can unfortunately air on this outside the fact of maybe waiting for the second half -- like second quarter update on the pipeline, the preclinical pipeline we have.
  • Wangzhi Li:
    Okay. Fair enough. Thank you very much.
  • Operator:
    The next question is from the line of Biren Amin with Jefferies. Please proceed with your questions.
  • Biren Amin:
    Yes. Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Maybe on the myeloma program, given the clinical hold was lifted in mid November, when do you expect to start re-dosing patients in that trial?
  • Simon Harnest:
    Yes. Carrie, would you like to take that one? Thank you, Biren. Good question.
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Sure, absolutely. So once the hold was lifted, we started all of the downstream activities that would allow us to start re-dosing and we have already begun opening our sites and should be planning on first patients with re-dosing, hopefully very soon.
  • Biren Amin:
    Okay. And then I guess, with any of these three programs, do you anticipate that you'll have sufficient clinical data by end of this year where you can make a decision to go into a pivotal cohort next year?
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    So our plans as of now are as we have the data available to give a good package of data, as I said before that’s meaningful. As I think we’ve previously stated, I think UCART22 is moving forward the most quickly. And that could be something that potentially we could consider, but we will have to depend on what we see with our data and how things move forward.
  • Biren Amin:
    Great. Thank you.
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Sure.
  • Operator:
    The next question is from the line of Nick Abbott with Wells Fargo. Please proceed with your questions.
  • Nick Abbott:
    Good morning and thanks for taking our questions. First one is on UCART22. Have you demonstrated direct evidence of host immunity, targeting UCART22? There's the correlation between T cell reconstitution and disappearance of UCART22. But have you actually identified which host cells are targeting the UCART22 cells?
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Yes. At this point, we have -- go ahead. Sorry. No, no, I want to .
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Yes, sure. I'm sorry, I should have waited. Yes, so we're doing all of that work. We're really looking to see -- to me more important -- well both things are very important. Any of the cell recovery as well as which cells are actually targeting the allogeneic CAR T to be rejected. So we are looking at all that data. We don't have that data available to share. That said, I do think the key is really ensuring that we are able to keep the count recovery long enough for the UCART cells to expand and do their business. And I think that the addition of alemtuzumab and ensuring that we find the best way of including it for both safety and efficacy is really key for this year is in terms of our goals, and we will be looking at all that data to help inform the best plan for moving forward, whether it'd be in a pivotal situation or otherwise.
  • Nick Abbott:
    Thanks. And that's a great segue to my second question, which is on alemtuzumab. Currently you're looking at 20 milligrams consecutively for 3 days. So, how long do you expect that to be effective at dampening down this host immune recovery? How much variability do you expect to see, and how long do you want to keep that host immune recovery down?
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Yes, that's a great question. Again, I think this all goes to the data. So we know from earlier data with allogeneic transplant, that the use of alemtuzumab can -- is used in preconditioning for transplant, and typically you would expect the lymphodepletion to be 6 weeks or so. It can be for quite a long time, because it's a monoclonal antibody, obviously, with a very long half life. So, finding that balance, where we're keeping the host immune system at bay, long enough for the cells to ablate the leukemia, but not too long that you end up with other issues is a critically important piece of this puzzle. And as we gather data, I want to be making data driven decisions on how we do that. So to answer the question, I can't exactly answer how long, because it's going to depend on what we see with the data.
  • Nick Abbott:
    Great. Thanks for the questions.
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Sure. Thank you.
  • Operator:
    The next question is from the line of Raju Prasad with William Blair. Please proceed with your questions.
  • Samantha Corwin:
    Hi, there. This is Sami on for Raj. Thanks for taking our questions and congrats on the progress. Based on your data and the data from Allogene to date, how are you guys thinking about re-dosing across your trials? And then also, could you remind us if you plan on enrolling patients refractory to BCMA therapies in your CS1 trial for multiple myeloma?
  • André Choulika:
    Absolutely. Carrie, you go ahead.
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    The second part is -- the second part of the question is faster. So I'll start with that. So in all of our trials, whether it's BCMA or CD19, or other AUTO or ALLO CAR Ts for that matter, we don't exclude them. So our programs which, I think, makes them unique and exciting is that we're able to enroll patients and potentially see a signal in a patient who's already failed one of these therapies, and would not be able to go on to, let's say, if they had an auto BCMA, and they may not go on to an ALLO BCMA, for example. So it does give us more shots on goal because they're alternative targets, and we're really the only people pursuing them in the ALLO space in a large way. So I think that's a really important unique property of our programs. So the short answer is, yes, they can come on the study. In regards to re-dosing absolutely, one of the key most important and exciting pieces of allogeneic CAR Ts is the fact that we can re-dose. And so we are exploring that in these studies, and we will be -- when we have data to share, we will be exciting to share that with you all.
  • Samantha Corwin:
    Thanks.
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Thank you.
  • Operator:
    The next question from the line of . Please proceed with your question.
  • Unidentified Analyst:
    Hi, all. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I acknowledge it may be difficult for you to speak for your partners. So to the best of your knowledge, when would you be expecting to hear something more from Servier and Allogene about their plans for UCART19, AOL?
  • Simon Harnest:
    Yes. Hey, . Thank you so much for the question. It's a very important point because it's obviously a strong value driver for us, not just from an economics perspective and milestone revenue, but also from the platform validation perspective. So UCART19 was the first product that Cellectis brought into the clinic in 2015. And that has since been renamed ALLO-501. And ALLO-501 is equal to UCART19. However, there has been a new version of UCART19 that omits a built in off-switch which is activated by rituximab and that program is called ALLO-501A. So in short, it's just an easier to produce product that allows to use UCART19 or ALLO-501 with patients that have been treated with rituximab, which is part of the standard of care approach and NHL patients. So Allogene and Servier are now moving forward in a unified fashion, the ALLO-501A program. And that ALLO-501A program as Allogene has recently mentioned is slated for an update in the second quarter of this year at a medical meeting. So this was just a few months down the line now, where we will have an update on patients treated with ALLO-501 and ALLO-501A. And both companies have said that they would like to join forces to initiate a Phase 2 study by the end of this year for this program, which could be potentially the pivotal registration trial for this program. So it's a very exciting time for us at Cellectis, because we think the first program that we brought into the clinic, as a trailblazer of the allogeneic gene edited off the shelf CAR T cell space, is now actually on track towards potentially a first product approval over the next 18 months or 24 months. So look out for news on that front from Servier and Allogene. There will be data on this program mid this year and potentially initiation of a Phase 2 trial by the end of this year.
  • Unidentified Analyst:
    All right. Thank you so much. That was clear.
  • Operator:
    The next question is from the line of Jack Allen with Baird. Please proceed with your questions.
  • Jack Allen:
    Hi. Thank you so much for taking our questions. I wanted to ask about your thoughts with regards to timing of getting the TALEN based product in the clinic and solid tumors. I know you mentioned that ALLO-316 is expected to enter the clinic in the coming months. But I was also wondering if you could touch on the timing with respect to advancing clinical products with respect to the Iovance and Cytovia partnerships as well? Thank you so much.
  • Simon Harnest:
    Thanks, Jack. Yes, it's a wonderful question. We think solid tumor approaches are really the next frontier for cell therapy, as this pertains to our partnership as well as to our proprietary programs that we're aiming to move into the clinic. So we mentioned this in the past that new INDs will also address solid tumor targets from Cellectis. So proprietary targets to Cellectis, I think will make an interesting development case here, but as you said also on the TILs and NK cell platform. So, we wanted to derisk our technology first and liquid tumors where we've seen really great responses with our CAR T cell approaches, and now we're expanding that beyond liquid tumors into solid tumors.
  • Jack Allen:
    Awesome. Thanks so much.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. The next question is from the line of Soumit Roy with JonesTrading. Please proceed with your questions.
  • Soumit Roy:
    Hi. Thank you for taking the question. Sticking with the -- in line with the prior question, could you give us some broad strokes thought process on tackling solid tumor, like, especially looking through the lens of Cytovia deal, are you picking winning strategies here with iPSC NK cell line? Or how do you pick between gamma delta or alpha beta? Are you looking to tissue penetration of cell type or T cell modification, what do you think will crack the solid tumor nut?
  • André Choulika:
    Carrie, maybe you want to provide some comment on that first? And thank you Soumit for that question. Carrie, go ahead.
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Yes, sorry. I was on mute. I'm not 100% clear on the question to be honest with you. So, just in terms of which targets or I’m not …
  • Soumit Roy:
    Like the cell type, like are you think -- still thinking alpha beta T cell is the right cell type to tackle a solid tumor or with Cytovia deal you’re indicating maybe iPSC NK cells are a better candidate for tissue penetration in the solid tumor versus liquid tumors?
  • Carrie Brownstein:
    Yes. So I think that's a good question. We just don't know -- we don't know the answer to. And I also would turn to André for more color on that, but I do think -- what I think is critical here for us as Cellectis is that we have the gene editing platform so we can do all of these different approaches to whether it would be liquid tumors, solid tumor or other diseases. And I think that applying this platform to different -- to all these different platforms, whether it would be iPSCs or gamma delta, alpha beta, what have you, are important clinical and research questions that need to be answered because I don't think there's any answer. And so I think it's -- what's important that we're doing here at Cellectis is we have our feet or toes or fingers in all these different potential options that will help patients in need. And that's why I think being here so exciting because we can make a difference in all these different ways and we will figure out what is actually the best strategy, whether it would be for liquid tumors, solid tumor or other diseases.
  • André Choulika:
    Yes. I cannot agree more with Carrie. The limitation that Cellectis has is not technical. We can do everything technically. Our gene editing technology is extremely powerful and there is more and more papers that are coming, showing that the access of TALEN to any kind of DNA, and the precision of this technology and its accuracy and its specificity and the ability to promote DNA recombination, replacement, correction, et cetera is unprecedented in this arena. And plus we have like et cetera. The limitations are not technical for Cellectis. The problem is more focus of the company, and also was for the past years on the manufacturing, but we just unplugged this blockage that we have. The manufacturing is internalized bit by bit and this year 2021 will have no limit in terms of what we can manufacture for clinical supplies, but also for commercial supplies. And also Carrie is building a huge and awesome clinical team around her from cleanups to translational et cetera and that like the limit is more people and what we can do, and of course, the finances of the company that have to fallow on this. But we cannot spread ourselves on a thin layer. The problem is certainly not technology wise, because we own it all. The problem is on the focus of the company, and I think we're really laser focused on what we're doing currently.
  • Soumit Roy:
    Got it. Thank you, and good luck with the upcoming catalysts.
  • André Choulika:
    Thanks.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. At this time, we've reached the end of our question-and-answer session. And I'll hand the floor back over to Simon Harnest for closing remarks.
  • Simon Harnest:
    Thank you so much. And again, thank you all for joining us. We'll have a couple of follow-up calls after this. Feel free to always reach out to me. And again, I'm very excited about this year because I think there's going to be a lot of clinical data coming, that we're all very much eagerly waiting. So thank you again for joining us and we'll speak to you soon.
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