electroCore, Inc.
Q4 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

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  • Operator:
    Greetings, and welcome to electroCore Full Year 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. Rich Cockrell. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
  • Rich Cockrell:
    Thank you all for participating in today’s electroCore earnings call. Joining me on the call today are Dan Goldberger, Chief Executive Officer; Brian Posner, Chief Financial Officer; and Dr. Peter Staats, electroCore’s Chief Medical Officer. Earlier today, electroCore released results for the fourth quarter and full year ended December 31, 2021. A copy of the press release is available on the company’s website. Before we begin, I’d like to remind you that management will make statements that include forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws, which are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor Provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Any statements contained in this call that are not statements of historical facts should be deemed to be forward-looking statements. All forward-looking statements, including, without limitation, our examination of operating trends and our future financial expectations are based upon the company’s current estimates and various assumptions. These statements involve material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results or events to materially differ from those anticipated or implied by these forward-looking statements. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these statements. For a list of risks and uncertainties associated with the company’s business, please see the company’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. electroCore disclaims any intention or obligation, except as required by law, to update or revise any financial projections or forward-looking statements, whether because of new information, future events or otherwise. This conference call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of the live broadcast today, March 10, 2022 at 4
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Thank you, Rich. Hello, everybody, and thank you for joining us on today’s call. I’m pleased to report that our dedicated team continues to dramatically improve our operating results, while advancing so many new opportunities for a proprietary non-invasive vagus nerve stimulation therapy. We’ve implemented several new initiatives that we expect will generate strong results during 2022 and beyond. Full year 2021 revenue was a record $5.5 million, increasing 56% over $3.5 million in 2020. Gross margins expanded to 76% and net cash used in operations decreased to $13.6 million for the full year 2021. Entering 2022, our business is more efficient, scalable and positioned for accelerating growth. Pharmacy benefit managers, or PBMs, including CVS Caremark and Express Scripts continue to adjudicate insurance benefits for an estimated 12 million covered lives, and provide gammaCore therapy to patients that have a high-end benefit design that does not differentiate between drugs and devices. These patients are subjected to a copay of between $25 and $75 per month depending on their specific benefit plan. Even for these patients, we find that more than 60% of our patients going through the specialty pharmacy to have their pharmacy benefits adjudicated ultimately pay cash, because the patient has not yet met deductible or copay obligations, or because their benefit designs is not yet reimbursed for non-invasive vagus nerve stimulation therapy. We’ve established 3 new cash pay commercial channels in recent months to improve access for patients that are willing to pay for therapy. First, gCDirect allows a prescriber to send a prescription directly to our home office for processing by our customer experience team. We work directly with the patient to dispense therapy and collect payment. Second, gConcierge is a physician dispense model under which the prescriber purchases inventory from electroCore at a transfer price and provides therapy directly to their patient from their own inventory. And third, we launched ecommerce storefronts in the United States and the United Kingdom, where consumers can go to our website, fill out a questionnaire that is adjudicated by a telehealth process obtain a prescription, and then new therapy seamlessly into a shopping cart that is dispensed directly to a patient. A world-class customer experience team is available to patients in all of these channels, providing training and support for new prescriptions, and sending reminders about refill prescriptions. During 2022, we plan to further invest in our digital awareness campaigns, initially through paid search and social media, in an effort to drive headache patients to our various channels in the United States and United Kingdom. We expect that these new channels and campaigns can significantly increase awareness and streamline availability of nVNS therapy for patients, many of whom have historically been encumbered by reimbursement, and physician access challenges. Net sales of $858,000 in the fourth quarter of 2021 from our government channels, including the Department of Veterans Affairs and Department of Defense hospitals, increased 69% as compared to $509,000 in the fourth quarter of 2020. Full year 2021, net sales from the VA and DOD grew 61% to approximately $3.3 million as compared to net sales of approximately $2 million for the full year 2020. A total of 100 VA and DOD military treatment facilities have purchased gammaCore products through December 31, 2021, as compared to 71 in 2020. Note, that there are approximately 1,300 VA healthcare facilities and over 500 military hospitals and medical clinics. So we still have plenty of growth ahead of us. Revenue from channels outside the United States increased 36% to $1.5 million in 2021 as compared to $1.1 million for the full year 2020. We look forward to continued revenue growth in the UK, as the MedTech Funding Mandate continues to roll out and we expand the indications available through the United Kingdom ecommerce site. Net revenue from the U.S. commercial headache channel was $679,000 for 2021 as compared to $358,000 in 2020. Approximately $321,000 of our U.S. commercial revenue in 2021 came from cash pay programs. Going forward, our U.S. sales function will be focused on the following 4 revenue growth initiatives
  • Brian Posner:
    Thank you Dan. For the fourth quarter ended December 31, 2021, electroCore reported net sales of $1.5 million and $928,000 during the same period of 2020. This represents a 61% revenue increase over the same period last year. For the full year 2021, the company reported net sales of approximately $5.5 million, as compared to net sales of approximately $3.5 million for the full year 2020, an increase of 56%. Gross profit for the fourth quarter of 2021 was $1.2 million as compared to $109,000 for the fourth quarter of 2020. Gross profit for the fourth quarters of 2021 and 2020 included an increase in inventory reserves of $70,000 and $434,000, respectively. Gross margin for the full year 2021 was 76% as compared to 63% for the full year of 2020, excluding the increase in inventory reserves in both years. Total operating expenses in the fourth quarter of 2021 were approximately $6.7 million, an increase of approximately $300,000 from $6.4 million in the fourth quarter of 2020. Total operating expenses for the fourth quarter of 2020 included a charge of $558,000 in connection with the write-off of a right of use operating lease asset. Total operating expenses for the full year 2021 were $24.1 million as compared to $26.5 million for the full year 2020. Research and development expense in the fourth quarter of 2021 was $742,000 as compared to $1 million for the same period in 2020. R&D expenses for the full year 2021 were $2.5 million as compared to $4.2 million for the full year 2020. Selling, general and administrative expense in the fourth quarter of 2021 was $5.9 million as compared to $5.4 million for the same period in 2020. SG&A expense for the full year 2021 was $21.6 million as compared to $21.8 million for the full year 2020. GAAP net loss for the fourth quarter of 2021 was $4.9 million as compared to a GAAP net loss of $6.3 million for the same quarter of 2020. GAAP net loss for the full year 2021 was $17.2 million as compared to a GAAP net loss of $23.5 million for the full year 2020. Adjusted EBITDA net loss in the fourth quarter 2021 was $4.4 million as compared to a loss of $4.3 million during the fourth quarter of 2020. Adjusted EBITDA net loss for the full year of 2021 was a loss of $15.8 million as compared to an adjusted EBITDA net loss of $18.4 million for the full year 2020. A reconciliation of GAAP net loss to non-GAAP adjusted EBITDA net loss has been provided in the financial statement tables included in today’s press release. Net cash used in operating activities during the quarter ended December 31, 2021 was approximately $4.4 million as compared to $3.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2020. Net cash used in the fourth quarter of 2021 included approximately $700,000 due to the company’s refund of overpayments, it received related to the sale of New Jersey net operating losses and the termination of the company’s lease for its former corporate headquarters. Net cash used in operations for the full year 2021 was $13.6 million as compared to net cash used of $20.1 million reported in 2020. Cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities at December 31, 2021, totaled approximately $34.7 million as compared to approximately $22.6 million at December 31, 2020. Looking ahead, for the first quarter of 2022, we expect net revenue to be at least $1.7 million and net cash usage to be less than $5 million. The increase in expected net cash usage in the first quarter 2022 compared to the fourth quarter of 2021 is largely expected to be due to seasonal factors affecting working capital and increased spending in cash pay initiatives. And now, I’ll turn the call back over to Dan.
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Thank you, Brian. We’re pleased with our improving operating results and we are in a strong financial position. Longer term clinical indications beyond primary headaches supported by the ongoing clinical developments discussed earlier, could greatly expand the total addressable market for nVNS therapy. We continue to build our intellectual property portfolio, and we’re developing some very exciting next generation product platforms to leveraging. Our VA/DOD channel continues to grow as the pandemic recedes and we remain optimistic provide direct-to-consumer initiatives in our commercial channels. While our United Kingdom business was impacted by COVID during the first few months of 2022, we look forward to accelerating growth in the near future. Mike Romaniw and his operations team have driven gross margins to 76% for the year ended December 31, a healthy increase from 2020. Brian Posner’s finance team has maintained discipline around operating expenses, and they have faith in their continued vigilance as we make targeted investments into commercial channels and product development. We look forward to further penetrating our large opportunity in the VA/DOD channel in the United States under Mitch DeShon’s capable leadership, while Iain Strickland is leading the growth of our international businesses through the continued rollout of the MedTech Funding Mandate in the United Kingdom, and our growing group of distributors in other countries. As we look forward to 2022, I see many growth drivers, including first continued penetration of our VA/DOD channel in the United States. Continued penetration of the United Kingdom market as a pandemic recedes, growth in our U.S. commercial channels, driven by cash pay business models and direct-to-consumer advertising. Longer term, we’re going to continue our efforts to gain commercial insurance coverage, and fourth, expansion of our international business through our growing distributor network and add attraction within the United Kingdom ecommerce store. Longer term, there are real opportunities for label extensions into PTSD, opioid use disorder and traumatic brain injury that could come as early as next year. Lastly, we are exploring growth opportunities to enhance and leverage distribution channels through acquisitions. Our focus will be on revenue stage targets that optimize channel synergies to enhance top-line growth. I’ll turn the call over to the operator. Operator, please open the line for questions.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. Thank you. The first question comes from the line of Jeffrey Cohen with Ladenburg Thalmann. Please go ahead.
  • Jeffrey Cohen:
    Hi, Dan, Brian, and Peter, how are you?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Good. How are you, Jeff?
  • Brian Posner:
    Hi, Jeff.
  • Peter Staats:
    Hi, Jeff.
  • Jeffrey Cohen:
    Good. So, I guess, firstly, perhaps for Dan or Peter, if you could talk about some of these other indications and more specifically talk about the type of data you expect to see from this 150 patient trial, when that reached out as well as maybe talk a little bit about treatments as far as times, frequency and power for various indications as far as if it’s any different from current level?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Peter, do you want to take that one?
  • Peter Staats:
    Yeah. Sure. I’ll take that one. So thanks, Jeffrey, the risk is really an exciting time in a variety of different areas. The first area that I’ll just comment on per your question is this stroke data. The stroke data that was presented at the International Stroke Conference showed that in doses higher than what we’ve previously recommended for headache, particularly the high dose stimulation of vagus nerve stimulation required 2 sets of – 2 different hours, 7 stimulations, so 14 stimulations or 28 minutes, showed a really dramatic improvement in the – or mitigation of the size of the growth of the evolving stroke. And there’s mechanistically that kind of mirrors what we saw in the animal models and there’s still some questions to be asked and one of the questions that is being asked in the subsequent trial being performed in Europe is whether or not we need to stimulate for an extended period of time, and whether or not we can get longer term and better benefits. I suspect that we will need more stimulations than what we’ve been doing for a typical headache. Right now, it is all within our current label, I mean, in terms of the number of stimulations. But that will be an easy thing for us to go back to the FDA with when we are applying for a new indication if we need to expand the number and amount of stimulation that we’re using in that indication. With other indications that we’re looking at, for example, opioid use disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, it does not appear that we need to use much more than what we’ve been using all along for our headache trials for the original asthma trials or for the gastrointestinal trials that have been done. Those all seem to be somewhat in line with the periodic usage of our device.
  • Jeffrey Cohen:
    Okay. Super. That’s very helpful. So – and then secondly, as a follow-up, I guess for, Brian, if you could maybe talk about the margins a little bit and the SG&A as far as the $5.9 million-ish level kind of the new level as you expand through 2022. And then thirdly, talk a little bit about the inventory. I don’t know if I saw a specific net delta for the fourth quarter, but how does just want to think as far as supplies and backlog and ordering, et cetera?
  • Brian Posner:
    Okay. Well, Thanks, Jeff. I’ll start with the margin. We continue to see margin expansion quarter-over-quarter, we had a very strong quarter of gross margin in Q4 of about 80%. And that’s basically driven by labor and overhead absorption as well as product mix. We were 76% overall for the year. And we’re confident we can stay at very strong levels in terms of our gross margin. In terms of our SG&A, we were – as you mentioned, $5.9 million for the quarter, we would expect that to increase as we continue to invest both in our sales footprint, as Dan outlined in his remarks, as well as our direct-to-consumer marketing. I think this management team has proven, it’s a good guardian of shareholder capital. There’s a chance we’ll spend more when we are – where we see things are really working to promote growth. And we’ll cut back in areas where we see things aren’t working as well as we had planned. So you would expect that to number to go up somewhat in 2022. In terms of inventory, we still have quite a bit, we have about $5.3 million as of the end of the year. We have enough to get us through next year and probably well into 2024 as well. And, we’re working on or starting to work on the next generation of our products for several years down the road.
  • Jeffrey Cohen:
    Okay. Got it. Perfect. Thank you all for taking our questions.
  • Brian Posner:
    Thank you.
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Thanks, Jeff.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. The next question comes from the line of John Vandermosten with Zacks SCR. Please go ahead.
  • John Vandermosten:
    Great. Thank you, and good evening, everyone. I wanted to start off with…
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Hey, John.
  • John Vandermosten:
    How are you doing, Dan? Start off with a question just on all your opportunities that just on the call you mentioned stroke, PTSD, opioid use disorder, and others. I know you’re waiting for data, especially in the stroke with NOVIS trial. What you will be looking for – going forward in order to allocate funds towards this? And then, how will you think about R&D in light of that? Will you pick the best one of the indications that are out there? Or will you allocate based on just the individual opportunity? So, you can either spend $5 million on R&D or $10 million. I’m just wondering how you’re thinking about that and how the opportunity might change based on the data that you get from the studies that are ongoing.
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Very good question, John. And a lot of this is going to be answered as we in the Sprint meeting for PTSD and pre-sub meetings for opioid use disorder, concussion, et cetera. And we expect that the agency will give us some guidance on regulatory pathway and of course, a key element of the regulatory pathway is what kind of data we ultimately will need to provide against what kind of indications we’re asking for, so most of these indications PTSD, concussion, opioid use disorder, our current product configuration will work very nicely. We already have quite a bit of data that in process, the vast majority of it is through investigator initiated trials that are being funded by government agencies like hospital system or NIDA, the National Institute of Drug Abuse. So our cash spend to get the label and begin commercialization.
  • Operator:
    Hello, John, are you able to hear us?
  • John Vandermosten:
    I can hear you, I think Dan faded out.
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    All right. As I’ve been talking to myself.
  • Operator:
    Yes, I think John’s line is disconnected, but he’s still showing on the talk mode. So we’ll take the next question now. Thank you. Just a minute. So the next question comes from the line of Swayampakula Ramakanth with H.C. Wainwright. Please go ahead.
  • Swayampakula Ramakanth:
    Thank you. This is RK from H.C. Wainwright. Good afternoon, folks. I hope, all are well? Can you hear me, Dan?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Yes. Can you hear me? I think it’s my fault.
  • Swayampakula Ramakanth:
    Yes.
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Yeah, it’s difficult.
  • Swayampakula Ramakanth:
    Okay. So on the cash pay business, certainly, you’re done not only the talk the talk, but also walk the walk. What is the market per se for the cash pay business? I’m just trying to understand, in terms of thinking about growth from here onwards in that business. What’s the cash pay market business, both in the U.S. and the UK? And I don’t know if you have any internal landmarks to try to get to in 2022?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Yeah, so thanks for the question RK. In headache, which is the indications that we can market for today, as you know, there are tens of millions of migraine sufferers, there are almost 1 million cluster headache patients in the United States. Within those large numbers, all of the cluster headache patients are reasonable targets for us. And sort of 5 million migraine headache sufferers out there that are on prescription meds currently, are probably targets for us. So the challenge that we have is, are relatively de minimis insurance coverage at this time. And so, we are making our therapy available through these various cash pay channels directly to consumers. And the total addressable market is very large, but we still need a prescription and so we need to be conscious of the friction in the channel.
  • Swayampakula Ramakanth:
    Perfect. In terms of the VA market, and the VA centers, as you know things are opening up in general from the pandemic situation. What are your sales? What is your experience of your sales force now, and also in terms of making new visits to physicians beyond the 100 centers that you’re in now?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Yeah. So in the fourth quarter, Brian went through some of the numbers in the government channel for the fourth quarter. And things really started to return to growth in the fourth quarter and we’ve carried that momentum over into the current quarter. So we’re getting increasingly excited about momentum in the government channels for the reasons that you just talked about the pandemic is receding, getting back to a more normal cadence of patient visits and dealing with headache patients. There’s also in the VA channel, quite a bit of excitement, about breakthrough designation for PTSD. And that gives our field sales force and our inside sales force, great talking points and another reason to be in the office, communicating with physicians. Peter has been spending a lot of his time talking to clinicians about PTSD and the breakthrough designation in what that means. So we’re very excited about momentum building in that channel as we speak.
  • Swayampakula Ramakanth:
    So – because it looks like the PTSD is probably the closest indication that we can talk about in terms of new areas of expansion. What is the route there like what do you have to do in terms of trying to get that expansion now that you have this breakthrough designation? And also, do you need to generate additional data or all that needs to be hammered out with the FDA? So what is the situation there?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Yeah, so we’re working to schedule the Sprint meeting with the agency in the near future. We believe that we have adequate data from the VA hospital system sponsored trials; DARPA also participated in sponsoring those trials. But the agency may say that we need additional work. So until we have that Sprint meeting, it’s – I really shouldn’t speculate.
  • Swayampakula Ramakanth:
    Okay. And then for the stroke, I know, there was some questions ahead of me. But I’m just trying to understand, do you need to have not only the data that you’re already published, but also the NOVIS data before you’ll file for an approval? Or can you take the current data and have a conversation with the FDA, if they can take this and then you can back it up with the NOVIS date later?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    . We are planning to schedule a pre-submission meeting with the FDA on the stroke work. The NOVIS trial, we don’t expect it to be fully enrolled until the very end of this year, beginning of next year. And you’re exactly right. We want to start the process with the FDA set expectations with the FDA, before that trial is fully enrolled and reports out.
  • Swayampakula Ramakanth:
    Okay, perfect. Thank you very much for taking all my questions.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Anthony Vendetti with Maxim Group. Please go ahead.
  • Jeremy Pearlman:
    Hi, this is actually Jeremy on the line for Anthony. How’s everyone doing?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Good.
  • Brian Posner:
    Good, Jeremy.
  • Jeremy Pearlman:
    Okay. So just to start off about on the cash pay new initiatives? What’s – can you just explain a little bit more? What’s the difference between the gCDirect and the ecommerce sites? Because I think both of them are being bought directly from you, as opposed to through a physician who has bought the gammaCore from you?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Correct. So for gCDirect, a patient goes to their favorite doctor that doctor writes a prescription and sends the prescription to the company and we fill the order for the ecommerce platform. The patient goes through our website, fills out a questionnaire and we’re providing a telehealth service, so a health care professional looks at the questionnaire and creates a prescription for that patient. So the nuance is that if I have a doctor that I like, and we’ll write the prescription, that’s gCDirect. If I don’t want to bother my family practitioner, I can just go to the internet and get it to a telehealth prescription.
  • Jeremy Pearlman:
    Okay, I understand. And so what has been the reception from physicians for these new the gCDirect and the gConcierge. Is there anything – more information or anything you can provide regarding…
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Yeah. So we just reported on our fourth quarter results where those programs we’re just getting started? Will be putting up some KPIs when we report out in a couple of months on the first quarter, but it’s very exciting right now.
  • Jeremy Pearlman:
    Okay. That’s good to hear. And then, I guess, I know this is still always up in there. But if you can maybe, one of – it’s been an initiative for a while now to get more insurance coverage. Could you give us any information where you are in talks with potential commercial payers? When you think is that 2022 event? Is that something maybe early 2023, any more details you could provide?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    So it’s been the back half of 2021 was very frustrating. All of our initiatives were met with quiet? So it’s been very frustrating. I wish we could report more progress. A key element of getting the commercial insurers to pay attention is consumer demand. And so the work that we’re doing in the cash pay channels is likely to have a spillover effect and create some demand pull among the commercial insurers. We continue to have conversations with Kaiser, we continue to have conversations with TRICARE, many of the regional blues , some of which have already given us positive benefit determinations. But it’s not – it’s going much slower than we had ever hoped.
  • Jeremy Pearlman:
    Okay, I understand. And then, I doesn’t seem like there’s been any issues, but I know other companies have had supply chain issues, inflationary pressures. Is there anything that you’ve seen on year end? Or you have enough inventory, I know, you mentioned so that’s not…
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Yeah, we’re in a unique situation of having quite a bit of inventory is, as Brian mentioned it, something like $5 million of inventory on our balance sheet, and it’s 75% gross margins. That’s quite a bit of revenue.
  • Jeremy Pearlman:
    Okay. Nice. And then just last question, is there a target? You said, you’re going to one of your initiatives for the 2022 growth is to grow your sales function, grow your sales reps, is there any target you have? And how’s that going to be split up among the different channels of your business?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Yeah. So internally, yes, of course, we have targets but we haven’t said anything about that publically.
  • Jeremy Pearlman:
    Okay. All right. So that’s all the questions for me. Thank you. I’ll get back in the queue.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. . The next question comes from the line of John Vandermosten with Zacks SCR. Please go ahead.
  • John Vandermosten:
    All right. Thanks for taking me back. You may have answered the part of my question, I’m going to ask next just about all the investment opportunity, I wanted to see what the R&D thoughts are for 2022 and then perhaps beyond? And how that might relate to the first part of the question I asked earlier?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Yeah. So we have not – yeah, we haven’t given guidance on R&D spending for 2022. We have kicked off a design project for the next generation, vagus nerve stimulator. So that program, we’ll, we’ll step up our R&D spending compared to 2021. The clinical work is not likely to increase our R&D spending, right? As we mentioned earlier, we’re really blessed that the vast majority of work is sponsored by government agencies in the U.S. and abroad. So that particular element, where we’re making a lot of progress is not going to impact our R&D spending in 2022.
  • John Vandermosten:
    Okay, great. So it sounds like it’s going to pick up a little year-over-year, but that’s about it.
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Definitely the best way to plan for it, yeah.
  • John Vandermosten:
    Okay, great. Last one for me just on Pro Medical Baltic. I don’t know if they had been generating any revenues for you so far. But can you update us on how much maybe they’ve contributed so far and what impact that might have in the future?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Yeah, we’re not – we haven’t broken out at international distributors as a separate reporting item. But in general, Greater Europe right now is really challenged. Our UK business has been challenged first, because of COVID, and now because of the Ukraine mess. The Baltic states are in the line of fire. So we really have to be patient about how our business in Europe for the first half of this year,
  • John Vandermosten:
    Okay. Got it. And have you provided any kind of indication on sales from any other distributors so far kind of how those are progressing?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    No. We have not.
  • John Vandermosten:
    All right. Thank you, Dan. I appreciate it.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Thank you. The next question comes from . Please go ahead.
  • Unidentified Analyst:
    Yeah. Hi, Dan, how are you doing?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Good. Thank you. How are you, sir?
  • Unidentified Analyst:
    Good. On the cash pay front. And I see the challenges with the insurance coverages. Have you reached out to any of the healthcare ministries like Samaritan’s Purse or Christian Healthcare Ministries, or any of those are essentially have always run on a cash pay model anyways?
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    So that’s a very good point. I’m not aware that we have made an initiative in that direction. So that’s a very good question.
  • Unidentified Analyst:
    Yeah, I mean, they – and we very much put pressure on insurance companies also, because they are listing affordable insurance companies. I myself dissipate in Christian Healthcare Ministries. So I think it should not be overlooked.
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Okay. Agreed. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.
  • Unidentified Analyst:
    Okay, thank you.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Thank you. As there are no further questions, we have reached the end of question-and-answer session. And I would like to turn the call back to Dan Goldberger for closing remarks. Thank you.
  • Daniel Goldberger:
    Great. Thank everybody for joining today’s call. 2021 was an exciting year of changes for the company and we look forward to a transformational 2022, stay tuned. I want to again acknowledge the hard work that Dr. Ondra and Mr. Atieh have performed on our Board of Directors. And I look forward to the fresh perspectives that our new directors. Ms. Goldstein and Ms. Wilber will bring. I’d like to give a special thanks to all of our employees who worked tirelessly through the pandemic. Their hard work and commitment in these trying times has set the stage for our expected growth during 2022. I also want to thank the healthcare professionals and their patients for loyal support so much progress and it couldn’t have been done support. Thank you all and have a good day.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. This concludes today’s conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.