Equity LifeStyle Properties, Inc.
Q4 2007 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Good day everyone and thank you for joining us to discuss Equity Lifestyle Properties’ fourth quarter and year ended December 31, 2007 earnings results. Our featured speakers today are Tom Heneghan, our CEO; Joe McAdams, our President; and Michael Berman, our CFO. (Operator Instructions) Certain matters discussed during the conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. Our forward-looking statements are subject to economic risk and uncertainty. The company assumes no obligation to update or supplement any statements that become untrue because of subsequent events. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Tom Heneghan, our CEO. Please proceed.
- Thomas P. Heneghan:
- Thank you all for joining us today. Good morning, I am Tom Heneghan, CEO of Equity Lifestyle Properties. I'd like to make a few comments before we open it up for your questions, but first I'd like to introduce Joe McAdams, who joined us as our President in January of this year. The reasons for bringing Joe into our organization were compelling. Joe's experience and knowledge round out a very solid operating team. We have a strong operating capability in Roger Maynard, our Chief Operating Officer; strong investment banking and capital markets expertise in Mike Berman, our Chief Financial Officer; extremely capable legal as well as strong overall business skills in Ellen Kelleher, our Executive Vice President and General Counsel; and strong deal experience in Marguerite Nader, our Senior Vice President of New Business Development. In addition, my fingerprints are all over having served over the years as ELS' Chief Financial Officer, Chief Operating Officer, CEO and President, and working with Sam to set our strategic direction. The average age of this group is about 45-years-old, with an average of over ten years experience in the manufactured home and RV resort business. At heart it is a real estate focused group that has been extremely successful creating our current platform of well located, demographically focused, high quality properties. This group has created a platform with significant internal growth opportunities. One key to realizing our potential is to improve our sales and marketing capabilities. Looking back, we have been very successful on a number of sales and marketing initiatives, but have been unable to crack the nut with respect to realizing the opportunities I believe are available to us. This is not for lack of effort. We lack strong sales and marketing experience in our senior management team. Joe McAdams fulfilled this need. In addition, Joe who is much closer to being eligible for social security benefits than the rest of us, brings a depth of senior management expertise that will mentor and strengthen the existing team. I am glad to have him as my partner and after my remarks, you will hear directly from him. A few comments on our 2007 fourth quarter and year end results. We continue to show good core growth in both revenues and net operating income, reflecting the stability of our business. However, sales volumes continue to reflect the disruption in the single family housing market. My third quarter 2007 earnings call discussed our view of the stick-built housing issues at length, so I will limit my comments on that issue today. I believe the transcript from that call is available on our website. Today I would like to discuss two issues that I believe will be differentiators in 2008
- Joseph B. McAdams:
- Tom, thank you. Let me first say how pleased I am to join this company. I have known and worked with the people of ELS since the early 2000s. As most of you know, after retiring from Affinity Group I agreed to join the ELS’ board and have had the pleasure of working with Sam and the other board members in this management team. It was from this experience that I recognized a number of things. First of all, these guys are sharp. Secondly, they were putting together an incredible operating platform. That platform could create significant value and opportunity, and I could add value to that platform. It was this point that energized me to “unretire” in order to create Privileged Access and begin to work with ELS. The performance of Thousand Trails Operating Company since being acquired by Privileged Access demonstrates the value proposition I provide. However, remember what I said earlier
- Operator:
- (Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from David Bragg - Merrill Lynch. Please proceed.
- David Bragg:
- Good morning. I just wanted to touch on the MH segment and occupancy there. Michael, could talk about your target for home sale income for this year and if that has changed? Also in terms of volume. It would be great to hear an update on the correlation between home sale volume and occupancy in that segment.
- Michael Berman:
- Sure. Right now our earnings guidance has zero profit contribution from our overall home sales operation. Obviously given the current economy, we are going to watch that very carefully, but that is our corporate goal right now. With respect to home sale volumes, we are assuming 2008 to be similar to 2007. We saw an uptick in the RV home sale line; a bit of a downtick in the MH. With respect to occupancy, our guidance assumes flat occupancy again during ’07 and ’08. We had a bit of drop down in turnover given the reduced transactions that are going on in the marketplace. That has helped to offset the decline in home sales. During 2007, we saw an occupancy gain for the first time in a long time and the driver there was our operations in Arizona.
- David Bragg:
- I think you have said this before, but is it correct that new home sale volume of around 400 to 500 is targeted to not have a negative impact on MH occupancy?
- Michael Berman:
- Yes, and inside that, new home sale volume is roughly 50% MH and 50% RV. It’s the MH that counts towards the occupancy statistics.
- David Bragg:
- Correct. So that was the split this past year in ’07?
- Michael Berman:
- Approximately yes.
- David Bragg:
- Is that the driver behind the lower sale prices that we saw this quarter split towards the park models?
- Thomas P. Heneghan:
- Park models certainly drive it and we have also seen a little bit of selling pressure on the prices in some markets where we sell homes as well.
- David Bragg:
- In Arizona versus Florida, can you update us on the occupancy levels in both of those markets and how they have changed during ’07?
- Thomas P. Heneghan:
- Florida was flat for year. I am going to guess its approximately 90%, David, I don’t remember off the top of my head. Arizona I believe was up approximately 100 sites during the course of the year, on average.
- David Bragg:
- On the disposition of Holiday Village, what was the occupancy level on that?
- Thomas P. Heneghan:
- I am going to guess 50% or less.
- Operator:
- Your next question comes from Jonathan Litt - Citi.
- Craig Melcher and Jonathan Litt:
- Hi it’s Craig Melcher here with Jon. How do you expect the RV segment same-store results to compare to the MH segment in ’08?
- Michael Berman:
- Craig, let me just spend a couple of minutes on our '08 guidance and walk people through that. As we put in our press release, we expect revenues to grow between 3.5% and 4%. On the MH side, as I mentioned, we are assuming flat occupancy although I can assure you we are focused on making that needle go north with a revenue growth modeled in of about almost 4%; 3.75% to 4%. We expect the resorts to be 3.5% to 4%; again, in this business, we are trying and succeeding corporately expending the customer or locking down our revenues in advance, which pushes our annual revenues higher than the rest of the revenue streams that we have. We are expecting another pretty good year. We had north of 6% revenue growth in '07 and we are anticipating a similar kind of number in '08. We are looking at an overall revenue growth, as I mentioned, of 3.5% to 4%. Then on the expense side we are modeling in expenses such that our core NOI growth is 2.5% to 3%. That would give us approximately at the mid-point of the range $207 million of core NOI for 2008. We anticipate $2 million contribution from our acquisitions for a total income from property operations of $209 million. As I mentioned before, sales contribution of approximately zero. Other income and expenses, everything but interest expense and preferred, we anticipate $8 million this year from our investments. Interest, we’re anticipating to be about $101 million; principal on the payment from the preferred of approximately $16 million. That would give us about an FFO of $100 million and we expect our share count to rise approximately 1%. That would give you the business model that we have going forward in 2008.
- Craig Melcher and Jonathan Litt:
- You mentioned that based on the assumptions you are heading towards the high end, but it acknowledges the economic conditions. Is that caveat more an issue on the financing side? Is there uncertainty with where interest costs are going to come in? Or is it more on occupancy on the MH or income on the RV side?
- Michael Berman:
- I would say that at the margin we are cautious with respect to the 2008 outlook. That caution is based on sitting here in January, we are actually seeing some very good results coming out of both the MH and the RV business as I sit here today. But we do have a $20 million revenue stream coming from transient customers on the RV business. For the most part that comes throughout the year, but a lot of it has to do with northern destination resorts. Very little data as I sit here today to tell you how that's going to come in, but I can tell you with respect to where I sit in January for the transient activity that's happening in our sunbelt-oriented properties, its coming in quite well. What we're really saying is there is a lot of stuff happening. The President gets on with a $150 billion stimulus package; this morning the Fed cuts rates 75 basis points in an attempt to stimulate the economy. To the extent those are effective, we're going to feel a heck of a lot more comfortable about what's happening in the economy and how that translates into the transient revenue streams. So, we feel very good, but there are a lot of people doing a lot of things to make sure the economy stays on track and we are just flashing a little caution with respect to how that all washes out.
- Operator:
- Your next question comes from Andy McCulloch - Green Street Advisors.
- Andy McCulloch:
- Can you break down your other income and expense guidance? Does that guidance include the $1 million payment to Joe?
- Michael Berman:
- Let me break it down for you in terms of the line items that show up on our reported selected financial data. Interest income, we expect the fourth quarter of ’07 to be a pretty good run rate for 2008. With respect to income from other investments we have a lot going on in here. We have a $5 million increase year over year from the Privileged Access lease. That is offset by some one-time events that occurred in ’07 that we don’t anticipate coming in ’08, including the Seasons transaction and the hurricane proceeds that we received. We anticipate our G&A, the fourth quarter would be a pretty good run rate if you multiply it out it is $18 million; we actually think it will be closer to $19 million. Again the driver there for the most part is Joe’s compensation which again has been offset by the lease. Rent control, again, the fourth quarter I think is a pretty good run rate. We are anticipating it could be about $2 million which is down from this year. If you have any other questions, Andy, I can handle it offline.
- Andy McCulloch:
- What is the current lease coverage ratio on the Privileged Access lease now?
- Michael Berman:
- It’s approximately 1.5X.
- Andy McCulloch:
- What were the cap rates on Tuxbury and Holiday Village?
- Joseph B. McAdams:
- For Holiday Village, given it was 50% occupied, I think it was not a practical cap rate. It was nearing infinity, I think. The Tuxbury property is an RV MH combination property that has about 1,000 potential expansion sites. We went in at a 7 but very excited about the location of that property about 40 minutes, 40 miles north of Boston on water with both an MH and an RV component that we can expand upon.
- Andy McCulloch:
- Are you seeing any movement in cap rates and can you comment on any potential movement you see going into '08 for your core MH and your RV product?
- Michael Berman:
- What we're seeing in the marketplace is much fewer transactions going on. That would implied to us cap rates are likely to start trending up. Again, not a lot of transactions. It tends to be a marketplace where you don’t see much on any particular quarter and it seems that it was particularly slow in the last 90 days.
- Operator:
- At this time we have no questions in queue. I would like to turn it back over to management for closing remarks.
- Thomas P. Heneghan:
- Thank you very much for joining us on our call today. We also would like to point out we asked Privileged Access to release some financial results for 2007 and they issued a press release that can be found at BusinessWire.com if you search under the name Privileged Access you'll see some of their 2007 preliminary unaudited financial results. To the extent anybody has any questions with respect to this call, as always, feel free to call Mike Berman. Thank you very much for joining us. Take care.
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