Gerdau S.A.
Q4 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

Published: 24 Feb 2021

[Operator:]

Good afternoon, and welcome to Gerdau's conference call to discuss the results related to the fourth quarter of 2020. . We would like to emphasize that any forward-looking statements that might be made during this conference call related to Gerdau's business outlook, projections and financial and operating goals are mere assumptions based on the management's expectations related to the future of the company. Even though Gerdau believes that its comments are based on reasonable assumptions, there is no guarantee that future events will not affect this evaluation.

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Good afternoon, everyone. I would like to start by welcoming every one of you to Gerdau's conference call to discuss the results of the fourth quarter of 2020. I hope that you're all well, in good health, and going through the spirit in the best possible way. On our side and speaking on behalf of our 30,000 employees, we've managed to be healthy, safe, and also care for our well-being. And as a result, we were able to maintain an adequate routine in our operations by following a very stringent discipline in complying with the sanitary and health protocols of all the local authorities. Here with us today is our CFO, Harley Scardoelli. And for both of us, it is always a pleasure to talk to you about our performance and clarify issues and also ask questions that may come up during our presentation. Scardoelli will then begin by talking about the highlights of the overall results in the quarter and the performance of our operations. After that, I will comment on the markets where we operate and share some information about what we see in the radar in the next coming months. And at the end, we will be available to talk to you about any issue or questions that you would like us to explore further. So with no further ado, I'll give the floor to Scardoelli.

[Harley Scardoelli:]

Thank you, Gustavo, and good afternoon to you all. It's a pleasure to be with you for yet another earnings release call. I do hope that you are well and healthy. We will begin the presentation on Slide 2, the presentation on the financial results, and we will start with the free cash flow and working capital available on this slide. As we can see in the chart on the left, our positive free cash flow was positive by BRL2.4 billion in 4Q '20. This improvement in relation to Q3 of 2020 is the combination of a few factors, like 43% increase in EBITDA quarter-on-quarter. The second aspect will be lower working capital, driven by a cash conversion cycle of less than 50 days. And the third point refers to all of our efforts, agility and commitment when dealing with Gerdau's management, particularly in such a challenging year as 2020. Year-to-date, free cash flow was positive by BRL4.5 billion for the second consecutive year, which once again, reinstates our commitment towards maintaining a liquidity position. The cash conversion cycle went from 63 days in September of 2020 to 49 days in December of the same year. Working capital optimization was attributed to the release from the accounts receivable line, coupled with improvements to the payment cycle, which could be translated into a recovery of the activities and more favorable payment terms with suppliers. On the other hand, there was an increase in inventories between September and December due to high levels of production to cope with the strong demand in our markets.

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Thank you, Scardoelli. Please let's move to our next slide. And now we will talk about how Gerdau operated in the fourth quarter of 2020 and also throughout last year. As we heard from Scardoelli's comments on Gerdau's performance on Q4, our results had a significant improvement attributed not only to the recovery in the different markets where we operate, but also due to the transformation that we promoted and that is already part of the day-to-day of our teams. We became a more agile, simpler and more digital company, which allowed us to be ready to capture the many opportunities that came up during the challenging year of 2020. And we now find ourselves much better prepared to deal with other moments of difficulty that may occur in the future. Not only in the fourth quarter, but during the entire last year, we prioritized health, safety and the well-being of our people. And we benefited from more resilient business models, centered on customers. And that allowed us to fully serve the demands in the markets where we operate. Now moving to the next slide. I will talk about the markets where Gerdau operates, and I will give you some more details about the outlook for the coming months. And I'll start with Brazil. In Brazil, shipments of longs and flats in the domestic market were up 22% between October and December on an annual comparison. As a result of the industry recovery and the consolidation of the good moment experienced by civil construction, including retail. Not only civil construction remain on a growing path that started a few quarters ago, but it also benefited from the inventory replenish movement in the distribution network and the excellent performance of retail that grew 10.5% in 2020 according to Anamaco. For 2021, Anamaco predicts that the retail industry driven by purchases of construction materials from self builders, should grow between 3% and 4%, following a growth trajectory that has been in place since 2016.

[Operator:]

. The first question is from Leonardo Correa from BTG Pactual.

[Leonardo Correa:]

Congratulations for these excellent results. My first question refers to the landscape in Brazil. When we look at the figures for January and we see an increase of over 10% in demand, and this really surpassed all of the market estimates. But how do you see the portfolio of orders going for the second quarter? And who is boosting this demand? We saw a few years ago that there was an increase of over 30% year-on-year. So if we could elaborate a bit more on the short-term landscape in Brazil, this would be very helpful. And my second question is about capital allocation, obviously, inventory levels are very, very low, even lower than expected. And in terms of debt, you were able to lower your debt. But by the end of the year, the debt level will decline further. Well, you increased CapEx maybe due to some delays caused by the pandemic. So we don't know yet what will happen after 2022. But my question is about dividends. Dividends. And this is relevant to the sector and to investors. What are the milestones? What are the next steps that you need to reach in order to announce a better policy in terms of dividend payout?

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Well, Leo, first of all, it's a pleasure to talk to you today. Well, my suggestion is that I answer the first part of your question, about growth driver and a short-term scenario. And then I'll give the floor to Scardoelli, who will talk about dividends and capital. Well, Leo, I would briefly start by talking about 2019 and 2020. In March or April of last year, I was telling you that we could anticipate some rebound. And we were very quick to put our mills back in operation. Therefore, we experienced growth in shipments of longs and flats, which were above the market numbers. And I would like to congratulate our teams because our shipments and deliveries, both for longs and flat in 2020, our deliveries were above the market numbers. But now, in general, in terms of our deliveries of longs and flats, we anticipate growth of approximately 8% to 10% in general. But the year started on a very strong beat. So looking at the end of January and February, in all the segments in all geographies, the markets remained very strong and resilient. Therefore, we anticipate a very positive scenario. Now speaking more particularly about Brazil, we see great resilience coming from the civil construction industry, in particular. We follow some indicators that are important to us and allow us to make some forward prediction. So our orders coming from the construction industry are very strong. Let me just mention an indicator that we follow. When you look at the number of active construction projects, in the cut and band area, we experienced 36% growth year-on-year comparing February '19 and February '20, we have 1,818 projects with -- in the cut and band segment. This is a very robust number. We also look at the number of new projects and new licenses being launched in cities like São Paulo. Therefore, the civil construction industry will certainly be a sector that will be very relevant in terms of our deliveries in 2021. Retail is another very strong segment. I mean, it's been performing very strongly since 2016. And this is an important sector to us, especially in terms of our project, Juntos Somos Mais and deliveries to construction stores where we started the year on a very strong note. I mean, we saw recoveries in 2019, and then that was intensified in 2020. We see now some new orders, and I'm referring to the infrastructure industry. We already closed some important infrastructure deals. In regards to the industry, it is very strong right now. The portfolio is highly demanded. And in view of the exchange rate conditions and macroeconomic conditions the level of exports in areas like the yellow line is very strong. Therefore, equipment and machinery manufacturers are operating at full force, and this demands a lot of steel. Therefore, all in all, all the drivers are very strong. We are very optimistic looking forward. And before I turn the floor back to Scardoelli, it hasn't been possible to see totally a replenishment of inventories because demand is so strong that I think that inventories will only be fully recovered, maybe throughout the second half of the year. In the entire change, the inventory level of longs is about 75% and flat steels, 50%. And in our view, inventories will take some time to recover completely. So I'm sure we will be able to talk more about it as we answer other questions. Now I'll give the floor to Scardoelli to talk about capital and dividend payout.

[Harley Scardoelli:]

Leo, here is Scardoelli. It's a pleasure to talk to you and to talk to all of you. In terms of capital allocation, I mean, this is always a very important and interesting question, especially right now when we see better results. But I do have a few points to mention. Well, first of all, our focus will be on maintaining a flow of positive cash flow. We -- today, we announced the review of our CapEx plan. And even then, we will be able to maintain a positive cash flow. And with that, the trend towards leverage, as you put it yourself, is that leverage should remain at very good levels in keeping with our policy and well behaved, I would say. And our CapEx also indicates that we do see a good avenue of growth. We are predicting investments in our operations and other one-off and strategic announcements that we made. As Gustavo said, we acquired Silat, and through our new business unit, we found new avenues of growth. And more, if we look and we usually say that in our meetings, our return on equity, I mean -- it means that investments into our own operations bring adequate returns. So all in all, this is a very good business to shareholders. I would like to remind you that when it comes to return to shareholders, we have to look at a total return to shareholders. If we look at last year, or the calendar year of 2020. The return was 18%. This was by the end of December. But if we look at it today, I mean we will be talking of something around 30%. We believe, therefore, that the company itself will grant good returns in terms of total return to shareholders. And in regards to dividends per se, the deleveraging dividends are naturally increasing. In 2019, Gerdau approved and paid out BRL0.25 per share, in 2020, that was BRL0.42 per share. Now we're getting close to a moment where maybe we will pay more dividends than what we pay in interest. Dividends are naturally increasing. And why is that? Well, this would demand a very long question in terms of capital allocation. But I think this is approaching a more adequate return. But our dividend policy remains at 30%. And we believe that with that, we are naturally paying out adequate dividends to our shareholders at the moment.

[Operator:]

Our next question comes from Caio Ribeiro from Credit Suisse.

[Caio Ribeiro:]

My first question is about the price transfer that you expect in the first quarter. Could you talk about revenue per ton? And how much of that you think will increase in this first quarter? And also, if you could talk about the parity premium that you anticipate today and whether you see further room for new price increases that you probably planned down the road? And secondly, my question is about the sustainability of the EBITDA margin in Brazil, which today is close to 30% or 31% in this quarter. And considering the increase in scrap prices, in particular, do you believe that you will be able to keep that same margin in the quarters looking forward?

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Well, Caio, I will answer your question, but Scardoelli, please feel free to interrupt me at any moment. Let me try to put all your questions together. As you saw in the fourth quarter of 2020, our EBITDA margin reached 31%. Last -- the last time our EBITDA margin was above 30%, it was in 2009. Meaning that in the past 11 years, we have been pursuing that because we wanted to give an adequate payout to our investors. And it was important to maintain Gerdau up to speed to face all of the new challenges. But let me be a bit careful in regards to pricing. And maybe if I could put together demand and pricing in a single headline that you would put in a newspaper or presentation, I would say, Gerdau sees strong demand and balanced prices in the international market. Maybe this will be a summary of all. Caio, we saw an evolution of premium. And in February, I would say, in January and February, rebar premiums reached 5% to 15% positive with no pressure at the moment from the entry of imported products. But I don't want to talk about pricing because as I said before, I'm a bit careful in that regard. So let me now refer to margins. We still see some room to increase margins that we reached at the end of last year and in early 2021. But I would like you to take into account some other factors in addition to pricing alone. I would like to remind you that we worked very hard in the past 5 years to better prepare our company to compete in this market. We lapped some businesses that had lower margins. We promoted a deep cultural and digital transformation. We eliminated BRL1 billion in SG&A. And all of that was to prepare Gerdau to post, let's say, decent results in more difficult market. By certainly, more demanding markets as we have now. And certainly, in these markets, we will deliver much better results when compared to what we delivered 10 years ago. As a reminder, in terms of margin evolution, if you look at this quarter, you have to consider exports. Back in 2019, 30% of our production in Brazil was exported, and that number was down to 15% in 2020. We know that export margins are worse when compared to domestic margins and this low export level will continue to be here around 2021. Also, you have to consider the dilution of fixed costs and the relentless job to seek for performance improvements. So behind all that, in regards to performance. Last year, the entire team put a lot of efforts to make further improvement. I wouldn't like you to attribute the evolution of our results to a single action that moves that leverage called price. All of the results stem from the relentless work from thousands of our employees that everyday work towards seeking for better results. In terms of costs, in fact, there was a very strong increase in costs. Iron ore, coal and scrap, all these prices went up. But we can still, despite these prices, we can mitigate these costs. And this is what we are indeed doing. And for the next coming months, we anticipate some stability in general, in terms of costs. To give you a general overview, Caio, that's what I had to say. But now Scardoelli, if you have any other comments, please feel free to speak up. And I hope I have clarified your questions. Scardoelli is saying that he does not have any additional comments. So that's it.

[Operator:]

Our next question comes from Thiago Lofiego from Bradesco BBI.

[Thiago Lofiego:]

Werneck and Harley, congratulations for these outstanding results. I have two questions. One, heavy plate, if you could mention the utilization level today? And how do you see demand evolving throughout the year? My second question is about the metallic spread in the U.S. and more particularly in this first quarter, how do you see the evolution of spreads and whether you had or are experiencing any impact in the U.S. due to a more rigorous winter season?

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Well, I think I can answer that as well, Scardoelli. But please, again, feel free to add anything else. Thiago, I would say that our investments in heavy plates is a story of success. Our rolling mill is one of the most modern ones in the world. Our rolling mill was exceptional in terms of the quality of the product. And this is a reason for us to be very happy. The market is recovering, and our shipments are outstanding above market levels, and the utilization today is around 60%. But the market continues to evolve. So I believe that as the next months unfold utilization rate will increase, and we will continue to ride a story of success. The metal spread in the U.S. is very stable. If we look at the last 3 months of last year, the market did not have any major variations. And then this first quarter, things seem to be the same with maybe a marginal evolution in January and February. The winter season in the U.S. had an impact, but it was a marginal impact when you look at the entire year of 2021, the impact was more severe in our Texas operations, in Virginia and Tennessee as well, not only in terms of the operation, but the entire supply chain in these states was affected. And this also -- there was also an impact in our Mexico operation because I'm referring to the gas consumer that comes from Texas. So for about 5 days, we had to stop our operations. But these volumes can be easily recovered in March. Right now, all of the operations are full -- are operating at full force. So we are not experiencing any shortage effect in terms of gas supply. So we will soon recover from these days of shutdown.

[Thiago Lofiego:]

And regarding this last point, do you see any impact in the U.S. margins because of these issues? Or you think that this is not significant.

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Well, it is not significant Thiago. The volume was very small. We only stopped for a few days. So when you look at the entire quarter, I think that this effect will be mitigated. And we are already seeing after the resumption of the activities that we will be able to recover our volumes, increasing our daily shipments.

[Operator:]

Our next question is from Rodolfo De Angele from JPMorgan.

[Rodolfo De Angele:]

My first question is about imports, whether with prices close to parity, whether you see any perspective of volume increase? And my second question is about capital and CapEx. I mean -- the increase, I mean, of course, I know that you had to adjust your budgets to fit the new reality. But I would like to know whether there are -- you have any intention of engaging in a new growth phase or something related to increased volumes or something -- whatever is different than what you had in your recent past? Just to clarify things a bit.

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Rodolfo, it's a pleasure to talk to you. Well, imports of steel in Brazil, we do not see any signs and I also believe that we will not see any signs in the next few months because the international and Brazilian markets are very volatile in terms -- when you look at the different indicators. Therefore, at the moment, we do not see anything in the radar. But I will now allow Scardoelli to say a few words about capital allocation, maybe in a more qualitative way our CapEx, looking towards the next few years is more focused on improving efficiency, lowering costs and also marginally expanding production areas where margins are higher. Therefore, our capital allocation is duly debated, and we have a very robust governance to discuss capital allocation. We have in place a Committee for Strategy and Sustainability that advises the Board. And when we look at the rigor of the decisions, I mean, they are very rigorous. Therefore, we will remain with our feet on the ground. As Scardoelli said during his presentation, we do not want to exceed 1.5x EBITDA. All to say that we'll be very rigorous in our decisions of CapEx allocation. In terms of the geographies, the bulk of our investments in the next few years will be in Brazil, in our mini mills, we want to modernize the local mills to seek for further efficiencies and more competitiveness. Our Ouro Branco Mills and mining and also our mills in the U.S. You might recall, Rodolfo, that 2 years ago, we talked about a gap that we identified in relation to our U.S. costs when compared to our competitors of about $30 per ton, and $15 by operating efficiency and the remaining through CapEx. We were able to recover those $15 of efficiency, and we will continue to invest in our main mills in the U.S. to eliminate this cost gap for good vis-à-vis our competitors. And therefore, we will be able to level the playing field. So Scardoelli, just please feel free to add anything else in regards to capital allocation.

[Harley Scardoelli:]

Rodolfo, I just have a very brief comment about CapEx. I know that, that was not exactly what you asked, but there are just things that came to mind, and I would like to make a more general comment. We reviewed our CapEx as you put it yourself. And I think it is very clear during this call and the material fact that we reviewed the CapEx downwards in 2020. It went from BRL2.6 billion to BRL1.7 billion, which is what we spent. And the plan for 2021 was maintained at BRL2.1 billion and now it's BRL3.5 billion. Meaning that we just postponed the CapEx that we had planned to do. So, so far, it's business as usual. But the point I want to make is that if we look at the past 3 years, from 2019 to 2021. If we look at previous 3-year periods from 2013 to 2015, on average, at Gerdau, we invested BRL2.5 billion a year. That was a period when right in the middle of that 3-year period, we had the World Soccer Cup. There were many investments occurring in Brazil. And our CapEx just followed that movement. That was the moment -- the right moment to invest. So after that, there was a generalized crisis in the steel market, not only in Brazil, but worldwide. And then we had to lower our CapEx to BRL1.1 billion a year from 2016 to 2018, so we went to BRL1.1 billion. But now if you look at the 3-year period from 2019 to 2021, we went back to the level of BRL2.3 billion. So what is my point here? Because I know that your question will be, what about your future CapEx? But the point is that Gerdau, in addition to all the points mentioned by Gustavo regarding having a very rigorous discipline in terms of our CapEx decisions, we focus on return on equity or a return of the capital. We have flexibility enough to adjust CapEx to current market conditions. Now the market is bullish, is growing. Therefore, we are investing more because we have to invest more to ensure future growth and good EBITDA. At the same time, if market conditions change, we are also flexible to adjust our CapEx position. Therefore, it doesn't make sense for us to give you a long-term projection for CapEx. If that is not connected to an EBITDA outlook. So we are giving you the numbers for 2021, CapEx increased to compensate for what we did not spend last year. And another point is that when we started to deliver returns, consistent returns to our cost of capital and possibly, right now, we are able to deliver higher returns in terms of cost of capital and the investment that Gerdau did generate value to our shareholders. So in terms of total return to shareholders, we believe that we are compensating them adequately. And even though the dividend payout is 30%, it tends to generate stronger dividends due to lower leverage because we are paying less interest rate. So all in all, we believe that we have good provisions in terms of return to shareholders. That's a long answer, but that was a point that I wanted to make.

[Operator:]

Our next question comes from Rafael Barcellos from Santander.

[Rafael Barcellos:]

Congratulations for your results. I think most of my questions have been answered. I just have a follow-up question. It's about retail and civil construction, which was very important in 2020. How do you see the performance of this market now in the first quarter in terms of their representation in your portfolio and the growth looking forward? And my second question is your big picture view of your strategy. Now that you've moved along, if you could talk about competition, market share and your view about the Brazilian market looking ahead?

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Thank you, Rafael. It's a pleasure to talk to you. Retail remains very strong. If you look back in 2016 and if you looked at every single month, retail has been growing. Maybe there was one outlier, which was December of last year when there was a slight decline. But other than that, it grew every single month. So retail started with a very strong year. So retail and distribution is very representative to our deliveries. 58% of our shipments occurred through retail and distribution. So that's a very representative segment to us. And the year started on a strong beat with the outlook for new short-term incentives in the Brazilian economy. So if that occurs, this segment will grow even more. We are very well prepared to fully serve the Brazilian market, even considering a more robust growth scenario. We still have idle capacity that we are not running at the moment. But it's amazing to see our capacity to run equipment that have been nonoperational for a while. Therefore, I say that we are certainly not concerned about not being able to serve the market because we have enough installed capacity to serve the demand, whatever that is. In terms of Silat, we are very pleased with this acquisition. We are still in the integration phase. Our plan is to increase the capacity of that operation by 50% this year, going from an average of 100,000 tons a year to 150,000 tons. So we will grow production by 50% this year. And certainly, we will improve customer service, not only customers in the Northeast, but all over Brazil in general. So this is an investment that occurred at the right time and was done the right way. And this will certainly make us happy looking forward.

[Operator:]

Our next question in English comes from Carlos De Alba from Morgan Stanley.

[Carlos De Alba:]

Great. My question, just continuing with Silat, what can you tell us in terms of the EBITDA contribution that you expect from this acquisition? Perhaps if you cannot comment on the EBITDA in absolute terms, at least on EBITDA per ton. How -- what is the gap, if any, between your current Brazilian operations or your overall EBITDA per ton for Gerdau and this particular acquisition so that we can better understand the upside in your numbers from these purchase. And then if you could also comment on any big difference that you can highlight between the flat steel market in Brazil and the long steel side, you -- what do you see as having better prospects, better situation, better price opportunities in the coming months? And then finally, if I may, you're coming to -- this is the last year of your 3-year CapEx cycle that you announced before. What should we assume in terms of the CapEx beyond 2021? So for 2022 and beyond, do you expect -- can you give us a better reference in terms of the level of investment that you're planning on doing?

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Thank you, Carlos. Well, I will start by answering -- I mean, your 3 questions, but Scardoelli, please feel free to add something else. Well, Carlos has started with a question on Silat, how it's performing, numbers and results. As I was saying, things are still at the very beginning, we took charge of the operation fully in December. So January was the first month that we were able to operate Silat in full together with our other mills in Brazil. We see good opportunities with this plant because we can improve the performance, we can place it side-by-side with Gerdau's performance levels. The plant is producing currently 100,000 tons a year. And we want to grow that number. Therefore, we anticipate a major upside this year. We believe that very quickly, Silat can quickly generate the same level of EBITDA of our other plants in Brazil. It will certainly generate additional value in terms of logistics and shipments in Brazil. Maybe in the next 2 months, in our next earnings result, in May, we will be able to give you some additional figures and to give you more details about that, because we will be in operation for 4 months. Carlos also talked about the differences between differences in longs and flats in Brazil. I mean, in general terms, our participation is more relevant in the longs market because that's where we wrote our own history, and that's when -- that's where -- that's an area where we are protagonists in this market. This segment grew more than other areas like flats last year. In both segments, we increased our market share last year. But I see that even when we compare both segments, longs and flats in regards to flats, inventory is lower in the chain when compared to longs. These are two sectors that, in my view, will strike a balance between supply and demand in the short run. And in terms of other plants, things are very balanced. We see both sectors moving -- performing quite well. I mean, in terms of flat plate, we started with flat plates. But before that, we started with hot coils. In both cases, we were able to write success stories in Brazil, not only in terms of equipment and production, but due to our capacity to distribute these products through our Comercial Gerdau that, as I said before, just celebrated its 50th anniversary. And Carlos, last question was about our 3-year CapEx. In the past 2 years, our projections of the current year and the 2 following years is what we used to do. So when we look at the volatile scenario all over the world, including the impacts from COVID, the second global wave and probably how this will unfold further, we decided to talk about our CapEx in 2021. But I think looking forward, our discipline of capital allocation is very similar to what we said and we've done before. Our additional provision to maintain a very restricted financial policy. And now I'll turn to Scardoelli for his own comments.

[Harley Scardoelli:]

Thank you, Gustavo. Yes. This is the point about CapEx. I think the most important aspect of that forecast is volatility. In 2020, we just demonstrated that we knew how to navigate in more adverse scenarios, being more stringent with our expenditures. And when the situation permits, we will resume our investment. I believe that the takeaway message to the market and shareholders is that we will always have CapEx adjusted to market conditions, maintaining financial discipline and focusing on the correct execution of that CapEx with good planning, always ensuring the return of equity in the long run.

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Can we jump to our next question?

[Operator:]

Our next question, also in English, is from Timna Tanners from Bank of America.

[Timna Tanners:]

I wanted to just, if possible, make sure I understand the guidance. So I think it's clear that there's more stability going forward at these high levels. But in particular, with the Special Steels in the southern region, is there a new run rate that we can expect? Or is there further growth in volume there? Is that an opportunity for further upside? So that was one question. And then other than that, I mean, I think everyone's asked a lot about the dividend and CapEx going forward. I was just wondering if there's some further announcements or timing for further decisions that we should watch?

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Thank you, Timna. Scardoelli, would you like to answer that question? The first part of Timna's question was more in relation to Special Steels that we didn't have the opportunity to elaborate a lot. And I would just give you a general overview. We see a more consistent recovery that started in the fourth quarter of last year, both in our Brazil, Special Steel operations as well as in North America, the order incoming is quite strong. Timna, in Brazil, the level of vehicle inventory in the chain is very low, 12 days only. And historically, this is certainly the lowest level ever reached. So in addition to increased sales in Brazil, it is necessary that we promote an inventory replenishment, and this is the focus right now for Brazil. In the U.S., in terms of light and heavy vehicles, we saw and we still see good recovery with very consistent flow of orders, probably in the U.S. a segment where we see the most difficulty is oil and gas. I mean, oil and gas is a segment that is struggling for a few months already. And we cannot see any short-term recovery. And just as I mentioned before, we are experiencing a growth in our Special Steel operations, I don't know whether Scardoelli wants to add anything else or still answer Timna's question on dividends and CapEx.

[Harley Scardoelli:]

Timna, in regards to Special Steels, I just want to add one more thing. I think that you may be asking whether the worst is behind us with the availability we have today. Well, certainly, this is not any specific guidance, but we believe, yes, the past is behind us. But obviously, this involves a gradual and slow recovery. We do not think that 2021 is a year where we will see this operation at levels that we experienced some years ago. But in fact, the outlook is very positive for 2021. So this is our view. So this fits into the overview given by Gustavo. In terms of capital and dividends, and I understand the -- Timna's question refers to some announcements in terms of changes going forward. Now to answer that question, we are in a moment of consolidating our results and in enhancing and improving our results. The return of capital to shareholders is being done in a very structured fashion. We are delivering reserves, we are posting consistent ROEs, dividend policy at 30%, and dividends are increasing as results improve. There is nothing different in our policy. Nothing changes.

[Operator:]

Our next question, in English, from Andreas Bokkenheuser from UBS.

[Andreas Bokkenheuser:]

Congratulations on the strong result. Just a quick follow-up on the capital allocation question. I may have missed this, sorry, if I did. But have you given any thought to a share buyback given the strength of your current free cash flow? That's the first question. And second question, your view on the North American construction market and long steel demand in North America, you obviously mentioned that the ABI, Architectural Billings Index, had improved in December, which is correct, but it's still in contraction territory, still negative, and it has been negative for 11 months. So seeing that the ABI kind of anticipates or is a pretty strong leading indicator of nonresidential construction in the U.S., does that mean that you think the U.S. or the North American construction market is going to decline based on the weak ABI number? That's the second question. And maybe a quick follow-up on the import question. You obviously mentioned you don't expect imports to come in significantly in the coming months. We've been hearing out of China that more and more Brazilian buyers of steel are placing orders with Chinese steel mills. So do you think that's taking place in flat steel and not so much in long steel based on your comments? Those are my questions.

[Gustavo Werneck:]

I will answer the first part of Andreas' question. And once again, he asked about capital returns and whether we have anything to say about the share buyback. And as I was saying before and just reinstating, we have an avenue of growth through CapEx, through Gerdau Next, and our dividend policy is for 30% payout, and this is higher than what is determined by the Brazilian legislation. That's why we believe that our return to shareholders is adequate. In terms of share buyback, I do not want to speculate about other companies. But usually, it becomes stronger when the company does not have large plans to grow. And we do have great plans to grow our operations. That's why we believe that at least right now, this is not the way to go. In terms of the U.S. market, I don't know whether Scardoelli wants to say anything.

[Harley Scardoelli:]

Yes. I mean he asked us how we see -- I mean, going forward, the sustainability of the current levels of demand in the U.S. market based on some indicators in the market. And how do we see that? Well, in general, the U.S. market is seen in a very positive way. Our backlog of orders is very consistent. That's why at the moment, we don't see any signs of lower demand. And with the vaccination in the U.S., some sectors are recovering, in particular, service sector. So in the short term, this may also sustain demand in general. We believe that inflation will not go back in the U.S. and in the midrange, they will be able to sustain demand. We also believe that they will resume infrastructure investments. I don't know whether you follow an announcement by President Biden to a group of senators, when he used the second phrase, "China will eat our lunch if China does not step-up with infrastructure -- I mean, China will eat our lunch if the U.S. don't increase their infrastructure spending." So we see some important infrastructure moves. When we look at our delivery planning for 2021, we do not anticipate any drop in demand. And Andreas, also to conclude the answers, you asked us about my comment on imports in Brazil. He was asking about some recent news related to the acquisition of Chinese products. I mean, we monitor that very closely and carefully. And as I was saying, we do not see any signs of increased imports in Brazil. There is a lot of volatility in the market. And also the exchange rate therefore, we do not believe that the current situation will favor import of both longs and flat steels.

[Operator:]

Ladies and gentlemen, the Q&A session is now concluded. I would like to turn the floor back to Mr. Gustavo Werneck for his final remarks. You may proceed, sir.

[Gustavo Werneck:]

Thank you. Well, once again, I would like to thank you for joining us today. As usual, it is a great pleasure to talk to you. Rodrigo, our IR team, are always available to talk to you and to answer questions that were not answered today. And I would like to take this opportunity to invite you to participate in our next earnings release call related to the first quarter of 2021 that will take place on May 5. Thank you all very much. Take care and watch your health and your health always comes first. Thank you, and all the best.

[Operator:]

Gerdau's conference call is now concluded. Thank you all for participating, and have a very good afternoon. You may disconnect now.