Chart Industries, Inc.
Q4 2015 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Good morning and welcome to the Chart Industries 2015 Fourth Quarter and Year-End Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded. You should have already received the company's earnings release that was issued earlier this morning. If you have not received the release, you may access it by visiting Chart's website at www.chartindustries.com. A telephone replay of today's broadcast will be available following the conclusion of the call until Thursday, March 3. The replay information is contained in the company's earnings release. Before we begin, the company would like to remind you that the statements made during this call that are not historical in fact are forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual events or results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements. For further information about important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements, please refer to the information regarding forward-looking statements and risk factors included in the company's earnings release and latest filings with the SEC. These filings are available through the Investor Relations section of the company's website or through the SEC website, www.sec.gov. The company undertakes no obligation to update publicly or revise any forward-looking statements. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Mr. Michael Biehl, Chart Industries' Executive Vice President and CFO. You may begin your conference.
- Michael F. Biehl:
- Thank you, Stephanie. Good morning, everyone. I would like to thank you for joining us today. We will begin by giving you a brief overview of our fourth quarter and year-end results, and then Sam Thomas will provide comments on current market order trends we see in each of our business segments. I'll then finish up by commenting on our outlook for 2016. Fourth quarter 2015 adjusted net income was $0.19 per diluted share. This excludes non-cash and impairment charges of $253.4 million, or $7.68 per diluted share, that I'll provide further detail on momentarily. (2
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Thank you, Michael, and good morning, everyone. As Michael mentioned, after non-cash impairment charges and restructuring costs, we exceeded our fourth quarter expectations through solid project execution at E&C and continued strength in our D&S, U.S., and European businesses. 2016 is going to be another challenging year for Chart as we enter the year with reduced backlog. Uncertainties in the energy markets are resulting in customer deferrals and delays, while increased competition and customer consolidation are compressing margins. To address these challenges, we've implemented further cost-cutting measures company-wide. Over the past year and a half, we've initiated approximately $60 million in cost reductions on an annualized basis. Since the end of 2014, our global workforce has been reduced by 21%. During the fourth quarter and early 2016 we've taken additional actions, we've eliminated certain senior level management positions, close satellite sales and engineering offices, and establish an early retirement program in the U.S. and our D&S business. This recent round of actions will result in approximately $20 million of annualized savings and is included in the 60 million I previously referenced. SG&A savings represented about 15% of the 60 million savings today. These savings were partially realized in 2015 and evident in our SG&A cost, which are down by $5 million when restructuring costs are excluded compared to the prior year. We continue to focus on lean initiatives and process improvements to further improve our cost structure, especially in the down cycle. One current example is the consolidation and reconfiguration of our air cooled heat exchanger facility, which would result in annual savings in excess of $1 million. If 2016 progresses we'll closely monitor near-term expectations and continue to take appropriate actions as necessary. Despite the negative macroeconomic factors around energy markets today, we continue to win orders such as KlaipΔdos nafta and to make an LNG projects, and have continue to see bidding activity related to other LNG projects. Customers continue to pursue LNG as an energy options. For power generation, transportation fuel and marine applications this reconfirm the long-term fundamental growth drivers for conversions still exist. Let me remind you that, although many of investors focused heavily on the energy portion of our business it's now less than half of our business in total. We have a diversified product portfolio that continues to generate strong free cash flow as evidenced in the current quarter. We have a solid balance sheet with significant liquidity, and we'll continue to pursue profitable investments, including acquisitions to add long-term value. I'll now comment on specific highlights for each of our business. Energy and chemicals book $45 million in orders during the fourth quarter, which is down from the third quarter orders of $77 million. As a reminder, third quarter orders in the E&C included a previously announced mid-scale LNG order of $40 million. Order levels remain weak in E&C with customers continuing to delay projects due to deteriorating and uncertain market conditions. As a result, our E&C backlog has declined 48% year-over-year. These factors have caused us to bring our forecast, which is one of the drivers for the non-cash impairment charges taken in the fourth quarter, with limited opportunities for seeing significant pricing pressures from competition and decreased throughput, which negatively impacted E&C margins. Roughly half of the cost reduction savings mentioned earlier are results of the E&C initiatives. Most of these related to direct labor savings as approximately half of the direct labor has been reduced since 2014. But more aggressive actions were taken during the fourth quarter and early 2016 to address salary and labor cost. Despite the weak near-term outlook for E&C, we see continued interest in quoting activity for mid-scale LNG liquefaction, for LNG export facilities here in North America. We continue to have large potential opportunities in this area, where our equipment and process technology efficiencies give us an advantage. Current natural gas market conditions, significant new LNG supply and reduced demand forecast have delayed end-user long-term contract commitments. It's worth remembering that these decisions are based on expected pricing in the 2020 to 2030 timeframe as opposed to the current market conditions. Within D&S, we received orders of $131 million in the fourth quarter, this is up 5% sequentially largely due to the LNG storage slowdown and re-gas project in Jamaica, which Michael mentioned earlier. We're pleased to announce today our D&S European operation Chart Ferox, along with our EPC partner, PPS Pipeline System, secured a $30 million combined contract for LNG reloading station for KlaipΔdos nafta in Lithuania. Chart will provide all LNG equipment including the storage tank, loading areas for trucks and ship bunkering. The contract value at Chart is approximately $15 million. We're currently involved in quoting a few other similar projects around the globe. During the fourth quarter, one of our privately held competitors filed for bankruptcy. The assets of this company were required but many previously established contracts were not honored, leaving customers stranded. This has opened up a number of opportunities for us, both in the industrial gas and the LNG segments. During 2015, we experienced significant growth in our food and beverage applications in North America. This is an example of how our business benefits from the diversity of our end markets. From an LNG perspective in D&S, order levels within the U.S. and Europe have remained rather steady although China remains extremely weak with an uncertain near-term outlook. The fundamental growth drivers and influence from the Chinese government for better air quality will drive LNG growth in the long run in our opinion. Moving on to BioMedical. Orders of $55 million were up slightly as both respiratory in life sciences improved over the third quarter, while commercial oxygen system orders were down as environmental application program timing is lumpy. In respiratory, we're investing in new product development, as well as rebuilding our sales and marketing channels to combat the increased competitive environment. As with our respiratory segment, we intend to see moderate growth in our life sciences segment, specifically in emerging markets like Latin America, India and China. To achieve this growth in 2016, we are investing in product development and marketing efforts. Within the commercial oxygen generation segment, we expect growth in our smaller standard products for ozone and water treatment systems. We continue to pursue a number of large oxygen plants, but again timing of these projects is difficult to predict. Finally, the overall business model of BioMedical allows us to generate significant cash flows with modest capital requirements. This positions us well to be β to well diverse supply to help offset our energy exposure in the near term. Michael will now provide our outlook for 2016.
- Michael F. Biehl:
- Thanks Sam. As we entered 2016 with the lower backlog and continued macroeconomic concerns with low oil prices, 2016 will be another challenging year. Outside of the energy segments we serve, we still anticipate flat to moderate growth in the industrial gas, healthcare and environmental industries. However, highly competitive markets in the natural gas processing, petrochemical and healthcare segments could impact our margins. Nonetheless, we expect to generate robust operating cash flows and continue to have significant liquidity available. Based on these factors, we expect sales for 2015 to be in a range of $900 million to $1 billion, and diluted earnings per share are expected to be in a range of $0.50 to $1 per diluted share on approximately $30.7 million weighted average shares outstanding. In addition, our earnings will be more weighted towards the second half as they have been historically. This excludes the impact of any restructuring costs. We currently estimate our capital expenditures for 2016 to be between $20 million and $25 million, just primarily to maintain our facilities with no major projects planned. Additionally, we are estimating our income tax rate of 34% for 2016. I would now like to open it up for questions. Stephanie, please provide instructions to the participants to be able to ask questions.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our first question comes from Eric Stine with Craig-Hallum. Your line is open.
- Eric Andrew Stine:
- Hi Sam. Hi, Michael.
- Michael F. Biehl:
- Good morning.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Good morning.
- Eric Andrew Stine:
- So, first, I wanted to touch on the Jamaica D&S award that you announced. I'm curious, is that part of the American LNG project? And I mean, I guess secondary to that, if it is, maybe an update on the liquefaction in ISO container portion of that project.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- It's not. But when you say American LNG, you're referring to...
- Eric Andrew Stine:
- The Fortress.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- I've seen (23
- Eric Andrew Stine:
- The Fortress.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- ...exporting LNG from β I'm sorry, Eric.
- Eric Andrew Stine:
- The Fortress project.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- It is. For that, the current plan is to deliver LNG to that terminal, primarily by ship, as opposed to by LNG ISO containers. There are plans underway to distribute from that terminal by ISO container but limited orders placements to-date, but that order is primarily for the infrastructure for the bunkering facility.
- Eric Andrew Stine:
- Okay. Got it. Okay. Maybe just turning to E&C, I guess on margins ex the quick-turn business, looks like margins were in that 25% to 26% range. So, first, maybe E&C margin view for the year, but then also an outlook on the quick-turn business, what you're seeing, obviously a strong fourth quarter, but what you are seeing given the current market environment, and just to confirm, I assume that's not in your guidance at all.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- It's correct. The two big areas of expected variability in our results for 2016 relate to the lack of clarity in energy and chemicals globally, and to distribution storage in China. Those are the markets that are currently soft, both have significant potential orders, but the near-term macroeconomic issues are ugly. So when you talk about E&C quick-ship orders, there is very little visibility. The only plus factor is that as people cut back on their budgets and maintenance, the chances of getting into problems with their plants and needing emergency replacements go up. We do see some good potential in our life cycle business offerings, and have had a number of very positive conversations with significant customers on providing them more services. They do provide quick-ship opportunities in the future. So there's lots of good stuff going on against an ugly economic environment.
- Eric Andrew Stine:
- Okay. And then I mean just on margins there, I know that you have been talking about margin pressure, and given the backlog, I would expect that to continue. I mean, how should we think about margins in E&C in 2016?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Probably high teens to low 20%s for 2016, and D&S would be in the high 20%s, you know, consistent with how they've been and BioMed in the low 30%s.
- Eric Andrew Stine:
- Okay. And could you repeat D&S again? I missed that. Did you say anything?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- High 20%s. Yeah.
- Eric Andrew Stine:
- High 20%s. Okay. Just sticking with the guidance, I mean your backlog is at a level in terms of coverage of that forward guidance. I mean, is it safe to assume given that China as you said D&S in China is pretty tough. Is that a good portion of that or confidence in that would be given the industrial gas trends that you are seeing?
- Michael F. Biehl:
- I think that we are concerned about economic activity in China. It's always difficult to forecast the year based on the first quarter in China because of the dramatic effects of Chinese New Year coming late January, early February and preparations for it. But our view of China general activity, LNG activity, is very muted. There's not a lot of optimism in China from oil companies or from industrial customers. From a distance, it appears to be a negative growth associated with industrial production. In contrast to that, there is a lot of positive stuff where because of our sales efforts of selling more complete packages and systems in both Europe and the U.S., that we have very positive dynamics and an upside to offset that. In the case of E&C, while we still have very good prospects for these mid-scale, multiple-train LNG export terminals, there is no question that as the developers try to push these projects across the finish line, they're having trouble getting long-term offtake contracts signed because of the pressure of U.S. pricing mechanism of Henry Hub plus the tolling charge versus Asian and Middle East or Australian and Middle East oil-linked pricing, which makes it competitive with the U.S. offering at sub-$30 oil price levels. But you have to balance that with the fact that the offtakers, the potential customers, are making their decisions based on 2020 to 2030 expected price levels, which means we don't know when the contracts get signed. We do think they'll go ahead.
- Eric Andrew Stine:
- Right. Okay. But just on guidance, I mean, safe to say that you're discounting China, for instance, pretty heavily as part of that guidance?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Correct, correct.
- Eric Andrew Stine:
- Okay. Thanks a lot, guys.
- Michael F. Biehl:
- All right.
- Operator:
- Our next question comes from Ole Slorer with Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.
- Ole H. Slorer:
- Yeah. Thanks a lot, and thanks for some good color there. It's still not quite clear to me, Sam, how the guidance for flat revenues with backlog down 40% year-over-year is coming together. You're clearly seeing something that makes you confident in saying that. But I think you also highlighted another troubled year in E&C and a steady BioMedical. So could you just kind of help us just bridge the gap in terms of what it is that you can see that makes you confident in making this prediction?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- I think the high end of our range assumes reasonable results in China better than fourth quarter and first quarter order intake as it moves along and there is more clarity in China. And it also assumes that at least one of these LNG export projects goes forward in 2016, along with fairly robust results in U.S. distribution and storage and Europe. The downside of our range discounts the first two items to lower activity in China and that we don't get a U.S. export facility until 2017 or later.
- Ole H. Slorer:
- Okay, that's very helpful. So if any of the West African FLNG projects that you're on reach FID, that would be an important steppingstone for you, I presume, or anything more β yeah.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- That would be positive towards the upper end, yes.
- Ole H. Slorer:
- Okay. Yeah. Let's hope that will go through them. Thanks a lot.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Sure.
- Operator:
- Our next question comes from Rob Norfleet with Alembic. Your line is open.
- Robert F. Norfleet:
- Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I had a β just a quick question relative to capital allocation. You guys obviously did a great job of generating cash in the quarter and maintaining a solid balance sheet. Can you kind of talk a little bit about priorities and then clearly on an M&A front, I would assume that there are a number of players that maybe aren't quite at stressed levels, but at levels that might offer an interesting entrance point for you guys and maybe you could update us a little bit on what you're seeing on M&A and what your appetite is? And then secondly, just obviously given the performance of the stock, I wanted to see if buyback has become something that you guys at a board level are looking at a little bit more seriously?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- First, we continue to look at buybacks. The continued uncertainty of oil pricing and how our share prices linked to that makes us reluctant to get very excited that the buybacks are the best approach for us. But we will continue to look at that. In terms of capital allocation, you can see that we're throttling back significantly on capital expenditure. There's possibility to go deeper. We have a good, a very good, modern fiscal plan around the world with significant capacity. So there is the ability to pull capital expenditures down. On the acquisition front, we continue to look for good quality assets that will let us get closer to end customers and within all of our markets. I'd say that recently the potential deals we have been looking at, the pricing levels have been becoming more attractive or more reasonable. We will approach them with caution, but we won't stretch our balance sheet or liquidity at this point in the cycle because we look forward that this could be a extended down period of two or three years' duration. And we intend to be able to fight, live and fight another day regardless of how brutal it is. Having said that, if we can make acquisitions that we're confident will be cash generative and accretive, we will jump into them with excitement.
- Robert F. Norfleet:
- Great, I appreciate that. Secondly I just wanted to ask a little bit, obviously you guys have done a lot to reduce the cost structure mostly through head count, but there have obviously some shuddering of capacity. Can you kind of just discuss what other options are available? And I guess what I'm really getting to here is at what point do we start cutting into the bone to some extent as it relates to continuing to scale down the cost structure to accommodate obviously a lower volume environment?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- We're experienced at running this playbook. And we will β we work very hard at cutting expenses that won't prevent us from reacting quickly to an uptake because it's been our experience that while it's hard to call when upturns come, when opportunities present themselves, there's an enormous benefit to being prepared and being able to react quickly. So, we continue to spend our time working on just those things. What expenses are nice to have, but aren't going to give us the opportunity to react quickly to customer opportunities. And we will preserve that capability throughout while continuing to look to cut non-value added activity. We spent a lot of our time doing just that.
- Robert F. Norfleet:
- Okay, great. And my last question and I will get back into the queue. Just quickly you guys have over the last several quarters, there have been obviously a couple of alliances forged obviously with the Cheniere projects, the Parallax, and the Louisiana LNG project looking to use some of the small scale liquefaction, and then recently obviously the Tellurian investments entity that Charif [Souki] helped start was also β looked to choose using your liquefaction capabilities. I know you made comments about the North American markets, the issues involved with getting off-takes being prohibited, but I guess one question I wanted ask you is as some of these large projects that were originally going to use some of the cascading larger scale cobalt technology, given the cost environment and the need for people to bring cost down, is there an opportunity for you guys to maybe sneak in and look at the potentially retrofit some of these existing projects that may want to scale back and use a smaller scale technology which clearly would reduce the cost of the program aside from just the Greenfield opportunities that are out there?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Yeah. We continue to put a lot of effort into this because we think that in the future, it will pay off and we continue to work at how to cost optimize our offering to make it even more attractive in this environment. There are β in addition to the projects you mentioned of midscale multi-trained, there are conversations with several of the existing base load facilities that in view of them chasing smaller off-take agreements less than the 4.5 million or 5 million ton of getting another train, there are several of these facilities that we're having discussions with putting 0.5 million or 1 million or 1.5 million ton of capacity onto those sites, but those are preliminary discussions.
- Robert F. Norfleet:
- Great. Thanks for your time. I appreciate it.
- Operator:
- Our next question comes from Rob Brown with Lake Street Capital. Your line is open.
- Rob Brown:
- Good morning, thanks for taking my question.
- Michael F. Biehl:
- Hi, Rob.
- Rob Brown:
- Hi. Just wanted to understand the margins in the BioMedical this year. I think guiding for margins stepping up from the Q4 level, what's structurally going on there in terms of the BioMed business get back to that low 30s margin?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- It's really, the challenge there is predicting mix. Within β particularly within the respiratory segment there's significant differences in the gross margin between stationary concentrators, portable concentrators and liquid oxygen therapy. There is a general trend towards more stationary concentrators and more portable oxygen concentrators away from liquid oxygen on a global basis. But there are still government tenders that come in particularly in Europe for liquid oxygen. And so the variation in gross margins is associated with changing sales quarter-on-quarter. In general, there is downward pressure because the sales that are growing our in lower margin products, but we expect to see a transition of being able to grow portable oxygen concentrator sales, which have more attractive margins, which all goes to say that we have a hard time predicting exactly where we're going to be.
- Rob Brown:
- Okay, great. Thank you for the color. And then, in your backlog, what's the current amount of China revenue dollars in your backlog?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Bear with us just a moment.
- Michael F. Biehl:
- Bear with us while we...
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- It'd be roughly 23% of the D&S backlog right now, Rob.
- Rob Brown:
- Okay. And you're comfortable, you've sold out the weak parts of that, or...
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Yes, we have.
- Rob Brown:
- Okay, good. I'll turn it over. Thank you.
- Operator:
- Our next question comes from Chase Jacobson with William Blair. Your line is open.
- Chase A. Jacobson:
- Hi, good morning.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Good morning, Chase.
- Michael F. Biehl:
- Morning.
- Chase A. Jacobson:
- So, I just wanted to ask about the cost savings again. Because throughout the year, you've talked about continuing to look for cost savings and you've increased your cost savings target quite a bit, which I think is good in this environment, but looking at this 2016, with what's not that much of a revenue decline in your guidance, you have pretty big decrementals. I understand the pricing, but how quickly can you act on incremental cost savings to stop that decremental from being such a factor as we look out beyond 2016 if the award don't pick up?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- We can act quickly, and we can take lots of cost out. There are issues of executing on existing backlog, and also the desire to maintain capability for potential orders if they come through that can be quite transformative. So it's a continued balance. I think if you go back to our last quarter comments, as the environment deteriorated in the fourth quarter, we have taken bigger cost cuts than we had indicated we were going to. We continue to address that on a week-by-week basis.
- Chase A. Jacobson:
- Okay. So then from a strategic standpoint, you know, not just for Chart, but across the industrial landscape, growth has been difficult. And I'm just curious, as you look at your business, outside of the end market, and outside of just reducing costs, what can Chart do to kind of drive growth internally whether it's something like adding more service, or kind of working up the value chain to put your customers in a position where they are calling on Chart as a better option even if you don't have the lowest price. And essentially, what can you do to gain share?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Well, I think we're doing that very effectively. And the relatively low decrements of sales in relation to profit decrement is an indicator that we're taking market share in this downturn. And we're doing that, and you can see as an example with higher level service offerings, and offering extended warranties, service plans, analysis of existing plans, so that our customers can operate them more effectively. It's giving us a lot more end market or end-user contact with customers, which not only get us business in these tough times, but also gives us the opportunity as things start to improve for significant orders at better margins. Within D&S, we are continually redeploying our sales force and project engineering assets towards specialized end-user applications and then replicating those successes around the world by taking those product offerings to others. So we are significantly improving our ability to sell not just individual products but complete systems, and you'll see that the systems-related sales from D&S continue to grow. And that does two things
- Chase A. Jacobson:
- Okay, that's helpful. And then just one last question, as it relates to Magnolia, is there any impact on your production schedule due to the push-out of the financial close on that project, and what's accounted for in your guidance?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- The guidance range covers β and, I guess, the most optimistic June-July timeframe for being given a go-ahead. And the downside says that that release doesn't happen in 2016.
- Chase A. Jacobson:
- Okay, got it. Thank you.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Our next question comes from Greg McKinley with Dougherty & Company. Your line is open.
- Gregory John McKinley:
- Yes, thank you. I guess a little bit of a follow-up on the prior question. In terms of guidance, maybe could you help us understand the range of order intake that is assumed between $900 million and $1 billion of revenue? What type of order intake is needed to achieve that? And my sense is you had indicated it might be a little more, or it is back end loaded, I don't know if that's more so than normal, or maybe some color around that would be helpful.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- There's not a direct correlation between order intake and what sales are achieved in 2016 based on the timing of order intake. Clearly, we need order intake in the first three quarters in order to achieve the upper end of the full-year sale. The fact that our backlog is weak means that essentially that our sales and profitability are back-end loaded.
- Gregory John McKinley:
- Okay. Michael, for the guidance that you gave for 2016, could you talk to us a little bit what kind of operating cash flow and free cash flow do you think gets generated both at the high end and the low end of that range? Maybe just free cash flow would be helpful.
- Michael F. Biehl:
- I would say on the high end of the range, it's between $100 million to $120 million of operating cash flow and then if you β we have very little in terms of debt payments, in there there's some China debt we would pay down, roughly $1.5 million to $2 million and the CapEx that we forecast between $20 million and $25 million, so pretty strong in terms of - so the upper range could be in the β still in the $100 million range of free cash flow. And the lower β obviously, lower is probably about $20 million, maybe $30 million below that.
- Gregory John McKinley:
- Okay. So you'd actually foresee a fair amount of cash flow coming from working capital then in addition to just β okay. Okay. And then the β in terms of gross margins again, you know we β even if we adjust out your, call it short-term emergency response type of projects, your gross margins were quite healthy in the E&C in Q4. Your comment that they would likely be in the upper teen to low 20% range in 2016 is a fair amount lower than that adjusted margin we just saw in the fourth quarter.
- Michael F. Biehl:
- That's on average for the year, so it would start out in the teens, and then drive up as it goes through the year. The current expectation so that over the year it would be averaging around that 20% on average.
- Gregory John McKinley:
- So can you maybe help me just better understand that a little bit. Because if we go from Q4 at mid-20s, what would cause us to take a 600- or 700-basis point sequential dip in gross margin rates and then the ability to rebuild. I'm guessing would be if you got a large order that help you leverage overhead in the plan later in the year but what would cause that short-term swing?
- Michael F. Biehl:
- Forecast is based on the margin we have in backlog as a result of competitive bidding.
- Gregory John McKinley:
- Okay.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- In addition the timing of the orders too, one orders you expect they could come in and so, because they don't come in the revenue right away and energy chemicals. They take a little bit longer to flow through revenues and that would be the two factors primarily.
- Gregory John McKinley:
- Okay, all right. Thank you.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Our next question comes from Pavel Molchanov with Raymond James. Your line is open.
- Pavel S. Molchanov:
- Hey guys. Thanks for taking the question. Because I am a little late getting on the call, you might have touched on this already. Last November, you announced I believe it was a $40 million order associated with the Louisiana LNG export project. Does any of that revenue include β is it included in your guidance for 2016?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- We had addressed that earlier in the call. The upper end of our guidance range assumes that we will be executing on that project in the second half of the year while we're in .
- Pavel S. Molchanov:
- Got it. Okay. I appreciate you repeating that for me. And then second, your backlog as of December 31, does that include anything associated with PetroChina any longer?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
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- Pavel S. Molchanov:
- Specifically PetroChina, the company?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Yes. There are PetroChina's order is in there, it's relatively less than $10 million and there were things that had scheduled deliveries this year.
- Pavel S. Molchanov:
- Okay, understood. Thanks again.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Our next question comes from David Cohen with Midwood Capital. Your line is open.
- David Eric Cohen:
- Yeah. My question was answered. Thank you.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question comes from Anjali Voria with Thompson Research Group. Your line is open.
- Anjali Ramnath Voria:
- All right. Good morning. I was wondering if you could provide some clarity on the D&S backlog as well as the orders that are coming in, in terms of composition between industrial and LNG.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- The industrial orders with respect to North America and Europe have been strong in both, although there's been a decline in U.S. dollar terms from Europe. But in euro terms, their orders have been steady, with perhaps slight year on year increases. I think that's primarily reflective of increased market share and success in selling larger system projects. With respect to LNG, they are down slightly, but still healthy in North America and Europe. In the case of China, LNG has seen the biggest decline and is currently very soft. Industrial gas orders are off on the 10% to 15% range. So, more of the decline is in LNG.
- Anjali Ramnath Voria:
- Sorry it's interrupted, but is industrial backlogs are still 80% of the total reported backlog, or is it higher than that at this juncture? I want to say last quarter in Q3 you mentioned industrial gas was about...
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- I would say that the composition is comparable, because while there has been less activity, there has been several significant size orders related to LNG. So the mix overall, is comparable because of the adjustments we've taken in reducing the β particular the LNG backlog in China, the quality is also better.
- Anjali Ramnath Voria:
- Okay, thanks. That's helpful. Secondly, just to ask a question on your cost actions in a slightly different way. When you look at the range of your guidance, if you were at the low end of that range, would that require further cost actions, further restructuring programs, or do you think the level that you've done today would be enough to keep the business at a appropriate size?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- There would likely be further cost reductions. The current plan for the upside of the range actually includes with respect to E&C increasing head count to execute on LNG projects. If those don't go forward, then we wouldn't be adding those. So relative to the guidance, there would be β yes, there would be further reductions or no adds or a combination of both, I should say.
- Anjali Ramnath Voria:
- Okay. Thanks. And then the short lead-time projects within E&C, what is the contribution from that on the revenue line?
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- About $12 million.
- Anjali Ramnath Voria:
- Okay. Thank you very much.
- Operator:
- And I'm showing no further questions. I will now turn the call back over to Sam Thomas for closing remarks.
- Samuel F. Thomas:
- Okay. Thanks very much, everyone, for listening in our call. As I'm sure you've heard, we're working in a challenging environment but taking the position that we are a fundamentally strong company that has the ability and the experience to handle a downturn like this and come out stronger when optimism returns and the market starts to turn. At the same time, we continue to look for acquisitions that will fundamentally improve our position in the marketplace. So we look forward to the future with confidence. Thank you very much for joining the call today.
- Operator:
- Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. That does conclude today's conference. You may all disconnect and, everyone, have a great day.
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