Herc Holdings Inc.
Q2 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

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  • Operator:
    Good day, and welcome to the Herc Holdings Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note that this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Elizabeth Higashi, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
  • Elizabeth Higashi:
  • Larry Silber:
    Thank you, Elizabeth and good morning everyone. Our quarter results continued to demonstrate outstanding operational execution. Our industry-leading rate management delivered strong results in a favorable operating environment, which benefited from tight equipment supply and steady rental demand. Given the current operating environment, we also decided to invest an additional fleet before the end of the year and have raised our 2021 net fleet capital expenditure guidance by $100 million to $500 million to $550 million. Our year-to-date momentum is expected to drive a year of record performance. Given the indications for the rest of the year, we've raised full year adjusted EBITDA guidance for the second time this year to $840 million to $870 million.
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    Thank you, Larry. Our second quarter results reflect the exceptional professionalism and commitment of our entire Herc Rentals team. The team deserves a huge thank you and congratulations for a job well done coming off a really tough 2020. We greatly appreciate the contributions of each and every one of our team members and I would like to personally thank all of you. Congratulations team Herc. Now please turn to slide 9. Our Q2 results showed exceptional performance compared to 2020, but also compared to the strong second quarter of 2019. Business activity was solid and all of our end markets are showing positive momentum. The strategic investments we made to diversify our customer base and our industry verticals provide a solid foundation for growth as we successfully built upon our urban market strategy and deepened and widened our market segments throughout North America. Our ProSolutions business increased year-over-year by approximately 30% in the second quarter of 2021 as we continue to expand our market share. Our focus on the power generation climate control and remediation needs of our customers has contributed to the double-digit annual revenue growth in ProSolutions over the last four years. In the second quarter, our Entertainment business continued to benefit from the tailwind of demand for entertainment content and the investments we made in 2020. Our entertainment business was practically zero in last year's second quarter. So the return to production activity contributed meaningfully to this year's results. Our entertainment strategy and operating leverage will continue to contribute to rental activity this summer and fall particularly as activity from live music and sporting events continues to recover. Our core business showed the normal upturn of demand in the second quarter and we benefited from solid operating performance in our regional operations.
  • Mark Irion:
    Thanks, Aaron, and good morning, everyone. We continue to be really pleased with our performance and delivered another excellent quarter in Q2. We took a positive hand off from Q1 and built momentum and volume and rate throughout Q2. The seasonality of the business is such that Q3 is better than Q2 in almost all circumstances. So the positive momentum out of Q2 into the back half of 2021 sets us up for a record year and we have raised guidance for the second time this year. We continue to expand our margins and our fleet utilization and we're executing on our strategy to provide excellent customer service and premium equipment to our customers throughout North America for both large and small projects. As we continue to progress through the next step in economic cycle, we have the capital available to accelerate growth and have a track record of utilizing operating leverage to accelerate profitability. Slide 14 shows a summary of our second quarter results, compared with 2020 and 2019. The comps to 2020 are obviously impacted by a weak base quarter with Q2 2020 being the depth of the COVID economic shutdown. I'll refer to them occasionally but the real comparison and the real measurement of our success in Q2 of 2021 are the comparisons to the second quarter of 2019.
  • Larry Silber:
    Thanks, Mark. Now everyone please turn to slide number 20. This slide shows how far we've come over the last five years in closing the gap with our industry peers. Our latest 12 months results show adjusted EBITDA margin has increased to 40.8% for the period ending June 30, 2021. And our second quarter adjusted EBITDA margin was 42.3% in 2021 with expectations for improvement in Q3. Diversity of customers, geographic regions and end markets will drive solid market opportunities. We're focused on increased scale in high-growth urban markets through new greenfields and M&A opportunities. Operating leverage is expected to improve margins longer term. 2021 is likely to be a record year in revenues and net income as implied by our updated adjusted EBITDA guidance. And our strong free cash flow provides liquidity for long-term growth initiatives and the foundation for a review of our capital allocation plan over the long-term. We plan to discuss those future plans with you at our upcoming investor meeting on September 20. So again, please mark your calendars. And now operator, please open the lines.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. And our first question today will come from Ross Gilardi with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
  • Ross Gilardi:
    Good morning.
  • Larry Silber:
    Good morning, Ross. How are you?
  • Ross Gilardi:
    Doing good. Thank you. So not to steal any of your thunder from September 20, but you just talked about -- you just alluded to the changes in your thoughts on capital allocation. I mean certainly, Herc's approach for the last five years has been about kind of turning the company around, sustaining fleet on OEC, getting the debt down. You're now below your leverage target. So what -- should we expect the company to grow fleet more in line with the market going forward? And just what are your thoughts on M&A and an appetite for a larger transaction, if one presented itself and made sense?
  • Larry Silber:
    Yeah. Great question, Ross. I'll answer as much of that as I can again, without stealing thunder from September. We are in discussions with our Board about what we do considering where we are relative to our performance and our liquidity and our balance sheet that exists today. Obviously, we'll continue with our first priority as investments in the business, investments in fleet, investments in greenfield, investments in our people, in training and technology. And then we'll certainly continue to look and we are developing a fairly strong M&A pipeline which will be a greater focus certainly than it's been in the past, but we've been on that track now for better than six or seven months beginning with our acquisition in late December. And we'll then meet with our Board and discuss what we might do around either a dividend or buybacks or other things relative to capital allocation.
  • Ross Gilardi:
    Got it. Thank you. And then, can you provide any granularity on the 1.9% rate on how that was broken down your -- gen rent versus your specialty business? And if you can quantify by numbers, can you say which side it was more heavily alluded to?
  • Mark Irion:
    I think Ross, it was pretty much across the board. So it's coming from all layers of the business. We had obviously strong sequential momentum in the stock market and the spot rates. That tends to be a little bit more volatile than the contract rate. So getting really good results in spot and working on the contract rates to sort of build momentum up through that channel.
  • Ross Gilardi:
    Okay. Just lastly, Mark, if you assume normal seasonality for the rest of the year you certainly were pretty -- sounded pretty confident that the rate environment to remain favorable for the foreseeable futures. Why wouldn't you -- what would you expect the exit rate on from a year-on-year perspective to be by the end of the year?
  • Mark Irion:
    It should continue to build. So, it's a favorable environment. As I mentioned tight equipment supply and steady demand. We're running at high utilization levels. So everything is in place for a favorable rate environment and we'll continue to stay focused and look to continue to build on the momentum that we've got going in the first half of the year.
  • Ross Gilardi:
    Thanks very much.
  • Mark Irion:
    Thanks Ross.
  • Operator:
    And our next question will come from Jerry Revich with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
  • Mark Irion:
    Good morning Jerry.
  • Jerry Revich:
    Yes. Hi good morning everyone. I'm wondering if you could just talk about how you're thinking about your pricing philosophy at this point between long-term customers and relative to short-term opportunities. I mean this is the strongest rate environment that you folks as a management team have seen. And I'm wondering what's your approach going to be over the next couple of quarters and how that might differ versus the way your predecessors ran the business previously? Can you give us a bit of context how you're making the decision that you just alluded to Mark a moment ago on the difference between spot versus longer-term work? Thanks.
  • Mark Irion:
    Yes. I mean I think it's the same or a similar response there, Jerry. So I mean contracts come up annually. They provided us with protection last year less volatile than the local spot market and I think protected us from rate decreases last year. And this year it takes a little bit more time in this environment to get them turned around and start getting lift. So, we're working in the spot market as aggressively as we can. We've got the tools in place to really take advantage and get pricing as we sort of face this tight sort of equipment supply environment and we're executing on that and also focused on just managing our contracts and getting the lift that we need out of that segment of the business also.
  • Jerry Revich:
    And in terms of the sequential cadence of pricing can you talk to that? How did pricing evolve over the course of the quarter sequentially and into July?
  • Mark Irion:
    It was up sequentially throughout the quarter. So that's what we'd expect and that's what we'd expect to see going through into Q3 and Q4.
  • Jerry Revich:
    And in terms of the 60% to 70% incremental margin targets Mark that you spoke about can you just expand on the drivers of that level of operating leverage. Because looking at our own estimates and consensus estimates we're all well below those numbers for 2022. So can you just build our comfort level of what's driving that level of operating leverage in terms of existing investments any way you could build on that for us?
  • Mark Irion:
    I mean, I think we've been very consistent in terms of the operating leverage and we've exceeded that range pretty consistently for the last couple of years. 2021 as we expected is a bit weird just given the COVID base effect in the comps. But as we run into 2022 and gear off of that, just the growth of rental revenues it becomes easier to flow through the more volume you've got and the more growth and the sort of actual dollars of rental revenue flow through. So, kind of becomes a little bit easier into 2022 than it was back in 2019 and 2018, when we weren't dealing with the same level of rental revenue growth that we anticipate in 2022.
  • Jerry Revich:
    So it sounds like you're comfortable with that range even if CapEx flexes to the high end of expectations in '22 and you have greater allocation of growth driven by volume versus price? You're still comfortable of being well within that range it sounds like.
  • Mark Irion:
    Yes. No. I mean CapEx is almost neutral in terms of the flow through, right? It's not reflected in EBITDA. But you get 60% to 70% from fleet growth and time utilization improvement. Obviously rates a lot higher than that, but that's not really been the key driver here in 2021 and we'll be able to run 60% to 70% in 2022 with fleet growth and utilization improvement.
  • Jerry Revich:
    Appreciate the session. Thanks.
  • Mark Irion:
    Sure. Thanks Jerry.
  • Operator:
    And our next question will come from Steven Ramsey with Thompson Research Group. Please go ahead.
  • Mark Irion:
    Good morning, Steve.
  • Steven Ramsey:
    Good morning everyone. I have some questions focused around CapEx. You talked about the equipment shortage, seen that in channel checks. And you're able to raise your net CapEx guide significantly. How are you able to do this, given the manufacturing challenges and equipment makers? And would you prefer to take it up even higher than this, if you could?
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    Hi, Steven, this is Aaron. We got in earlier, towards the end of last year and got our fleet plan in for this year, suspecting there might be some supply chain delays. And as we got into the first, second quarter, we -- our business was strong enough. We liked our revenue trends. And we went out and got some more capital as we alluded to in the call. And we feel pretty confident with our net CapEx as it sits right now. The equipment does show up a little bit later, than we typically would see in a normal year maybe up to two months late. But we got a pretty good cadence right now of equipment new equipment showing up every single day in our business. And we'll continue to have that experience, the rest of this year.
  • Larry Silber:
    Yeah. And our fleet department has done an excellent job, in communicating with our key vendors on availability of manufacturing slots. And that's really what's enabled our decision to add additional capital for this year and working very closely with our vendors, so kudos to our fleet department for excellent work in generating the opportunities for us.
  • Steven Ramsey:
    Okay. And then, thinking about, this CapEx raise in the delayed lead times versus normal. Does this signal a positive outlook on 2022 both, demand and the fleet shortage lasting to that time and you guys investing behind the ongoing opportunity beyond this calendar year?
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    Yeah. It does signal our confidence going into 2022, on the supply and demand dynamics in the business. And our ability to capture more share in the marketplace.
  • Steven Ramsey:
    Great, thank you.
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    Thanks, Steven.
  • Larry Silber:
    Thank you.
  • Operator:
    And our next question will come from Mig Dobre with Baird. Please go ahead.
  • Mig Dobre:
    Thanks.
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    Good morning. Hi. How are you?
  • Mig Dobre:
    Yeah. Good morning, everyone. So, on this CapEx point, it's a material increase. And it's coming halfway through the year. I know we had this discussion last quarter, as well relative to what some of your peers were doing they were I think a little more aggressive in raising CapEx earlier in the year. So I guess from my perspective, I'm trying to understand, what changed in terms of what you're seeing in the market or how you're thinking about the business through the year to lead to decision to increase CapEx. Is it that you are trying to manage this pricing dynamic more carefully maybe than in prior cycles? Is it that you've simply seen the end markets progressed differently than maybe your original planning assumptions were? I mean something is different, right? So I want to make sure that we understand exactly kind of how your strategy has evolved through the year.
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    Thank you. This is Aaron again, Mig. I think it's kind of a mixed bag of all of the above. We do participate in a lot of different end markets a lot of different segments. We mentioned them in our notes on the call and they're all performing very well and even a segment like industrial which has really been kind of still steady off of last year's levels. They haven't really picked up yet. But we do see that picking up in the back half of this year and the first half of next year quite a bit with scheduled turnaround. So then you also have just the -- it is a tight equipment marketplace. So we want to make sure that we've got the fleet available for our customers as our entire sales strategy with our customers is maturing. And we're developing our relationships further-and-further and touching more and more customers. So we're real confident about what we're doing with the net fleet CapEx.
  • Larry Silber:
    Yeah. I think it's a combination of market demand Mig as well as market share gains. And we're feeding those hot hands in our organization to take advantage of both on activity as it develops.
  • Mig Dobre:
    Yeah. So that's what I was trying to get at. I mean, you're not getting the sense that, given that you've been maybe a little more careful with CapEx than some of your peers there would have been some share loss. You're still thinking that you've managed to gain share and you're going to do so this year?
  • Mark Irion:
    Yeah. No I mean look at our growth rate. It's pretty clear that we're growing well in excess of the market ensure that will play out over the next couple of weeks.
  • Mig Dobre:
    I see. And then I'm wondering based on the updated outlook here, how you're thinking about the exit rate on OEC relative to say 2019. So exit rate in 2021 relative to 2019 based on your updated CapEx plan?
  • Larry Silber:
    I think look generally we're going to grow our fleet over the back half of the year and we'll have a higher level of fleet exiting 2021 than we did certainly 2020 and 2019. So fleet will grow in the back half of the year.
  • Mig Dobre:
    Okay. And lastly for me, recognizing that we're -- you're not providing 2022 guidance but I'm wondering here, obviously the setup here is for 2022 to be a decent year or better. Where are you in terms of conversations with suppliers for 2022 CapEx? Are you securing production slots now? What are you seeing on the pricing side? And are there any limitations vis-à-vis as to what's available in 2022? Thank you.
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    Yeah. A lot of OEMs, Mig this is Aaron, again a lot of OEMs actually are sold out until next year. But we have secured a good portion, call it at least 60%, 70% of our plan buys for 2022. We've already secured those. So they're scheduled to come in next year. And as far as the pricing element, I mentioned that this year in the second quarter not material price increases. But nearly all the OEMs are looking for some price improvement just from what you -- what we all know about that's going on in the marketplace, pretty much all of them are looking for some price increases next year. So we're negotiating with all of them at the moment. But we have secured our slots.
  • Mig Dobre:
    Thank you. Thanks for the call.
  • Operator:
    And our next question will come from Neil Tyler with Redburn. Please go ahead.
  • Larry Silber:
    Good morning Neil.
  • Neil Tyler:
    Yeah, good morning. One left for me really. The -- well -- and it's around the capital allocation again, but away from CapEx and towards the M&A pipeline that you referred to in your introductory comments. Is the tight market buying conditions making it any more difficult to I suppose translate that pipeline into executed deals, or do you still see that as still fairly optimistic in terms of what's coming through there and what you're likely to be able to secure?
  • Larry Silber:
    Yeah. Look I think the tight supply actually has probably helped encourage some M&A activity because some of the smaller regional players, or geographic players are -- may not have the ability as we do to go out and secure fleet well in advance, and they may not want to make those investments coming off of a difficult COVID year. So in fact I think what it's done is it's probably encouraged a few players to consider teaming up with someone like Herc to carry out their strategy and their business plans and invest in their business going forward.
  • Neil Tyler:
    Excellent. Thank you. So I mean in terms of cadence for the second half versus first half and sort of 2022 versus 2021, a reasonably -- obviously M&A is by nature lumpy but expect those numbers to step up as we move through the back half of this year and into next?
  • Larry Silber:
    Yeah. That's our expectation. And, obviously, as you said M&A is unpredictable and generally take some time to consummate a deal and does come in lumps. But we are certainly optimistic about it stepping up.
  • Neil Tyler:
    Excellent. Thanks Larry.
  • Operator:
    And our next question will come from Ken Newman with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
  • Ken Newman:
    Hey, good morning everyone.
  • Larry Silber:
    Good morning. How are you Ken?
  • Ken Newman:
    Doing well. Thanks. Just curious if you can give us any sense of how you look at the progression of dollar utilization into the back half. I think you mentioned an expectation for more normalized mix into the third quarter. And I imagine you're still planning to take on a decent amount of fleet from your CapEx plans as well. So -- but with all that said I mean would you expect a similar magnitude of seasonal increase from second quarter to third quarter here?
  • Mark Irion:
    Yes, I think you'll see the normal sort of sequential improvement. I mean Q3 is the strongest quarter. We're rolling into it with tight utilization. So, everything is set up for a good third quarter. The improvements you've seen in dollar utilization are baked in. So, there's no -- just because we've had outstanding performance in the first couple of quarters that doesn't mean we're not going to continue that momentum and move on through. So, the normal seasonality should apply.
  • Ken Newman:
    Right. And I know you don't want to give guidance on 2022 yet, but obviously, the dollar utilization in the fleet has improved pretty linearly since you've become a standalone company. How do you expect fleet utilization could look like into 2022 into the out years? I mean is a 40% -- low 40% type of utilization rate kind of a good run rate you think going forward if the market and the industry kind of progresses the way you think?
  • Mark Irion:
    Since we've been a standalone company, we've been chasing mid-40s in dollar utilization and that's still our goal.
  • Ken Newman:
    Right. And then one more for me. Similarly for equipment rental gross margins, I mean just help us think about the cadence of margin expansion into the back half of the year? And I think you mentioned the 60% to 70% incremental margin target into 2022. Any puts and takes here as we kind of think about just segment gross margins in the back half that we should be aware of?
  • Mark Irion:
    So, I mean I think that flow-through guide is for 2022 not for 2021. So, back half of 2021 was still hampered by the base effects of 2020. So, we're looking for EBITDA margin and EBITDA margin growth for the full year of 2021 over 2020, but that's going to be less than what we've seen in previous years just given that base effect. But we should see an increase at the end of the year over 2020 nonetheless.
  • Ken Newman:
    Got it. Thanks.
  • Mark Irion:
    Thank you.
  • Operator:
    Our next question is a follow-up from Ross Gilardi with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
  • Ross Gilardi:
    Thanks guys for squeezing us in. I just want to get your perspective on this terrible building collapse that happened in Florida and potential for much more -- much stricter building codes and just the whole sorts of regulation on the back of that. Like what's your take and could that be a driver in any particular parts of your business?
  • Mark Irion:
    Yes, Ross I mean I live in condominium in South Florida, so I appreciate the question. I think building codes have improved. I mean that building went up in the 1980s. There was a significant increase in South Florida at least in -- post-1992 with Andrew. So, I think there has been a steady improvement in building codes across Florida. And even Northern Florida I think increased after they got exposed to some storms in the last couple of years. So, there's been a steady improvement in building codes and commitment to structural integrity and safety over the 30 years since that building went up. So, I think you're going to see a continued -- you're going to see a refocus on those older buildings in terms of how they are engineered in the 40-year certifications. But the recent construction I think that we're involved with has significantly improved from those years.
  • Larry Silber:
    Yes. And certainly since I would say the early 1990s and through the 2000s as the hurricanes sort of became more prevalent and came through the region, the whole Gulf area, certainly there has been improvements -- dramatic improvements in building codes as it relates to hurricane protection and the type of structures and requirements to properly build any kind of structure whether it's a high-rise condominium or a commercial facility or residential housing to withstand 170-mile hour winds and make its way through. So...
  • Ross Gilardi:
    And just what about this drought and these forest fires out in California and you've got elements of your specialty rental business that are focused on disaster relief and that type of thing? Like is that -- these are terrible things that are happening, but it's actually driving business for you guys in what seems like a more sustainable fashion.
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    Yes. Ross, this is Aaron. And before I moved to Florida, I lived in California. So the cadence of those wildfires definitely has increased. And whenever those happen we're always there to respond. Our industry actually is there to respond, but we always respond. Some of it's contractual business. Some of it's just spot needs of emergency equipment. And that seems to be an annual part of the business. I think over -- when you look out over the future to -- as they maybe change the way their infrastructure is some of those big power lines that are up in the forest might have to go underground. And if that's the case that will create a lot of rental equipment demand as it goes along with it. So we're -- on the West Coast up and down the coast we're really situated well with a lot of locations in our network. So we're able to respond to those forest fires pretty regularly.
  • Larry Silber:
    In fact PG&E yesterday announced that they're going to be spending over the next 10 years $30 billion to bury power lines along the California coast.
  • Ross Gilardi:
    Yes. You need a lot of digging and trenching and a lot of other stuff equipment to carry that task out. So it's really interesting. But thanks very much. Appreciate it guys.
  • Larry Silber:
    Yes.
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    Thank you.
  • Larry Silber:
    Thanks, Ross.
  • Operator:
    And our next question will come from David Raso with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
  • David Raso:
    Hi. Thank you for squeezing me in. Can you clarify again what percent of your next year equipment needs that you've secured? I think you stated that earlier and maybe compare that percentage versus normally where you were this time of the year for next year's equipment needs?
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    I'd say it about 60% and it's about normal with a normal year.
  • David Raso:
    That's about normal. Okay.
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    Yes.
  • David Raso:
    And then on the used equipment channel selling, the channels that you're going through given the strength in used equipment can you give us a sense of how you see that mix going forward just thinking about the strength of the market and maybe lack of need to use auction versus other channels?
  • Aaron Birnbaum:
    Strategically we really want to sell more through the retail wholesale channel and we've been able to do that over the past 12 months -- 15 months. So we want to continue to focus on those channels. We'll use our auction if we have -- if the fundamentals of the marketplace changed dramatically. But really retail wholesale is where we want to spend most of our time.
  • David Raso:
    But can you help quantify that a little bit what you're seeing in the marketplace? How much of a shift can you see retail selling versus the lower -- at least historically lower-margin channels?
  • Larry Silber:
    Well, today we're probably close to 80% of our activity through our wholesale and retail channels and 20% through auction. I would say if you go back 12 months to 18 months we're probably in excess of 60% through auction and 40% through the wholesale and retail channels more or less.
  • David Raso:
    Okay. Very helpful. Thank you so much for the time.
  • Larry Silber:
    Thanks.
  • Operator:
    And this will conclude our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Elizabeth for any closing remarks.
  • Elizabeth Higashi:
    Thank you, Cole and thank you all for joining us today. We'll be sending out details of our investor meeting to you all shortly. But obviously, if you have any further questions as always please don't hesitate to reach out and we look forward to seeing you in person very soon. Thanks a lot. Bye-bye.
  • Operator:
    The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines at this time.