Intercept Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Q2 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

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  • Operator:
    Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Second Quarter 2020 Intercept Pharmaceuticals Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. At this time, I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Lisa DeFrancesco. Ma'am, you may begin.
  • Lisa M. DeFrancesco:
    Thank you. Good morning and thank you for joining us on today's call. This morning, we issued a press release announcing our second quarter 2020 results and financial position, and also posted accompanying slides, which are available on our website at www.interceptpharma.com.Before we begin our discussion, I'd like to note that during our call we will be making forward-looking statements, including statements regarding our approved products and clinical development programs; certain regulatory matters, including the potential approval of OCA for liver fibrosis due to NASH; and our strategy prospects, financial guidance, and future commercial and financial performance. Listeners are cautioned not to place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements which speak only as of the date of this call, and we undertake no obligations to update those statements, except as required by law. These forward-looking statements are based on estimates and assumptions that, although believed to be reasonable, are inherently uncertain subject to a number of risks and uncertainties. Some but not necessarily all of the risk factors that could cause our actual results to differ materially from our historical results or those anticipated or predicted by our forward-looking statements are discussed in this morning's press release and in our periodic public filings with the SEC. Today's call will begin with prepared remarks from our CEO, Dr. Mark Pruzanski, followed by those from our Chief Operating Officer, Jerry Durso; and our Chief Financial Officer, Sandip Kapadia. We'll then open the call to take your question. Please limit yourself to one initial question in order to allow time for all questions to be addressed. Let me now turn the call over to our CEO, Dr. Mark Pruzanski.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Thanks, Lisa, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us on our second quarter 2020 earnings conference call. Following the receipt of the complete response letter for OCA and NASH announced on June 29, we've been focused on two main objectives. First, to prepare for a Type A meeting with FDA and second, to ensure that we remain in a strong financial position as we work to get the US regulatory process supporting the approval of OCA for NASH back on track. Based on our latest review of our available data together with the leading NASH experts in advance of our upcoming interactions with FDA, we've continued to reaffirm our strong conviction and the positive benefit risk profile of OCA for the treatment of patients with fibrosis due to NASH supporting our application for accelerated approval. As you well know, REGENERATE remains the only Phase 3 NASH trial to produce positive interim data, meeting FDA's guidance for accelerated approval and we continue to believe OCA has the potential to become a foundational treatment, particularly for patients with advanced fibrosis at highest risk of progressing to cirrhosis and its complications. In addition to achieving the complex, composite primary fibrosis endpoint of REGENERATE with high statistical significance, OCA demonstrated robust anti-fibrotic efficacy across a range of histologic, non-invasive and biochemical parameters. This benefit has continued to be reaffirmed through ongoing analysis and we look forward to sharing important new supportive data at the upcoming virtual EASL conference next month as well as at subsequent scientific meetings. In preparing for our Type A meeting with FDA, we've been focused on comprehensively addressing the issues FDA raised on both sides of benefit risk, reframing the available core efficacy and safety data while demonstrating how effective risk management tools can ensure appropriate patient selection and even further enhance OCA's benefit risk profile in the post-marketing setting. We believe this should prove helpful to ensure a productive Type A meeting, which we expect will take place by early fourth quarter and set the stage for any further steps we may need to take to gain alignment with FDA regarding the resubmission of our NDA. In parallel, we are also gratified to have received strong support from external stakeholders including NASH opinion-leading clinical experts and patient advocates who share our strong conviction in OCA's basis for approval and who are eager to express their views to the agency. As always, as we navigate through this process, we will remain committed to providing any material updates as we have. Regarding the anticipated timeline, we expect that on reaching agreement on the path forward and once we then resubmit our NDA, we anticipate receiving a six-month review during which we would anticipate an advisory committee meeting where NASH clinical experts and patient advocates would have the opportunity to express their views publicly on the merits of OCA as the first potential treatment for fibrosis due to NASH. In the meantime, I'd like to remind you that our MAA for conditional approval of OCA and NASH in Europe continues to undergo EMA review, which remains on track. As I mentioned earlier, we've undertaken an internal review of all of our investments. We are, of course, postponing our NASH launch preparation efforts and have identified other savings across the business. As a result, we announced today that we have lowered our 2020 non-GAAP adjusted operating expense guidance range by $100 million, while still retaining the critical resources needed to continue supporting our NASH clinical program, successfully resubmit our NDA to continue to drive growth in our foundational PBC business. Now, moving to our operating results. Our global PBC business continues to perform well. Our performance for the quarter was strong with reported net sales of $77.2 million, our biggest quarter since launch. While these results herald promising signs of recovery, we continue to closely monitor the COVID-19 situation and its impact to our business. With respect to our global clinical development programs, as you know, our Phase 3 NASH trials, REGENERATE and REVERSE have been fully enrolled for some time and I'm gratified to see that today the pandemic has had little apparent impact on these ongoing trials. Meanwhile, while we previously announced the decision to temporarily pause enrollment in our other trials, I'm pleased to announce we've reinitiated screening and randomization of patients in our Phase 4 COBALT outcomes trial in PBC and we plan to soon restart enrollment in our combination action study with OCA and bezafibrate. Given the positive previously reported clinical data, we've seen supporting the development of this combination therapy, we continue to have strong conviction in the value of our long-term PBC business. We have not experienced any significant disruptions to our supply chain and we continue to successfully supply product globally for our Ocaliva PBC business and investigational product for our ongoing trials. Before I turn it over to Jerry, I wanted to take a moment to highlight what continues to inspire all of us at Intercept as we continue driving forward to bring OCA to patients with advanced fibrosis due to NASH. We've received an enormous outpouring of support from external stakeholders within the NASH and broader hepatology committee. This support is the result of the conviction they have in the strength of our data, supporting approval of OCA, coupled with the serious nature of this disease that has become a leading cause of liver failure with no available approved therapy. We truly value the strong relationships and support that we have within the community and we'll remain focused on our mission to lead the way in supporting those living with progressive non-viral liver diseases. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Jerry to provide an update on our global PBC business and commercial activities.
  • Jerome B. Durso:
    Thanks, Mark, and good morning, everyone. I'll start by discussing our Ocaliva results for the quarter and then provide you an update on the adjustments we've made to our commercial activities since we received the complete response letter. In the first quarter, we reported $77.2 million in worldwide Ocaliva net sales which represents growth of 17% versus the prior year quarter and is our highest quarterly sales to date. In the US we achieved net sales of $59.6 million in the second quarter as our end market demand was strong and we continued to see good total prescription growth versus the prior year quarter. In the international region, we achieved ex-US Ocaliva net sales of $17.6 million in quarter two. These results reflect the continued strong performance in our key international markets. In Europe, we did see a reversal of the trend from last quarter where some customers who have proactively increased inventory levels in response to the uncertainty of the early COVID-19 period. Our global Ocaliva business has proven to be resilient through COVID-19 but we've been pleased with our ability to maintain patients on therapy despite the challenges of the pandemic. As you would expect, with the overall slowdown in patient visits, we did see an impact during the second quarter of new patients starts which remained at a lower level than quarter one when COVID-19 began to emerge as a global issue. Turning now to NASH. Our teams have made significant progress over the last 18 months and our overall efforts to educate stakeholders on the implications of advanced fibrosis due to NASH and the appropriate identification of these patients. Following our receipt of the Complete Response Letter, we conducted a full review of our global commercial plan. We were able to take advantage of the flexibility we had built into our commercial strategy and lower our expected operating expenses going forward in 2020. For example, we have eliminated our contract sales organization. Additionally, we've made a difficult, but necessary decision to postpone our NASH launch preparation activities for the immediate future and are refocusing commercially on the growth of our core PBC business. I believe the progress we've made on education and awareness within the NASH community will have a lasting effect. Awareness of the devastation of this disease on patients with advanced fibrosis is evidenced by our market research results as well as the support that we're experiencing from the community. Once we have a better understanding of our regulatory path forward in the US, including our timelines for resubmission, we'll be well-positioned to scale as necessary and reinitiate our NASH launch efforts based on our learnings to-date. In the meantime, we've acted quickly and have redeployed our field teams to focus on PBC. And that effort is timely as customer interactions are rebounding. Our territory business managers have begun to interact with physicians again through multiple virtual channels and in person where appropriate. For example, in June, our interactions doubled relative to the prior month and our market research shows that healthcare providers are eager to hear from our PBC field teams again. So overall, we refocused our commercial efforts towards PBC while reducing our expected 2020 operating expenses by a significant amount. I'm pleased with the steps that we've made to-date to facilitate those reductions and we'll continue to evaluate sensible cost saving opportunities as we move forward And now, I'll turn the call over to our Chief Financial Officer, Sandip Kapadia for our financial update. Sandip?
  • Sandip S. Kapadia:
    Thank you, Jerry, and good morning, everyone. Please refer to our press release issued earlier this morning for a full summary of our financial results for the quarter ended June 30, 2020. I'd like to take the opportunity to share with you important updates on our strong Q2 commercial results, our new 2020 Ocaliva net sales guidance and our updated 2020 non-GAAP adjusted operating expense guidance. Starting with our Q2 commercial performance. In the second quarter, we recognized $77.2 million in Ocaliva net sales, our highest quarter to-date, up from $65.9 million in the second quarter of 2019. Our second quarter Ocaliva net sales comprised of US net sales of $59.6 million and ex-US net sales of $17.6 million. This represents a growth of approximately 18% and 16% prospectively versus the prior year quarter. Our GAAP operating expenses for the second quarter were $129.3 million. And our non-GAAP adjusted operating expenses were $112.4 million. As a reminder, our non-GAAP adjusted operating expense excludes stock-based compensation and depreciation. Non-GAAP adjusted operating expense is a non-GAAP financial measure under SEC regulations. Please refer to our press release issued earlier this morning for a full explanation and reconciliation of this measure. Our cost of sales for the second quarter were $1.9 million compared to $0.7 million in the prior year quarter. Our selling, general and administrative expenses for the second quarter were $93.4 million. This represents an increase of $23.7 million over the prior year quarter and was driven primarily by increased investment in our NASH prelaunch activities. Our research and development expenses for the second quarter were $34 million and includes the anticipated $22 million offset related to the UK R&D tax credit. Absent the impact of this tax credit, R&D expenses are generally consistent with the prior year quarter. As of June 30, 2020 we were well positioned with cash, cash equivalents, restricted cash and investment debt securities available for sale of approximately $540.6 million. And now turning to our updated financial guidance for the year. As we focus our commercial efforts on PBC in the back half of this year, we've decided to provide Ocaliva net sales guidance and now expect full year 2020 Ocaliva net sales in the range of $300 million to $320 million. As Mark and Jerry mentioned, following the receipt of the Complete Response Letter, we carefully reviewed our investment plans and are determined to postpone our NASH launch preparation activity and disease education efforts. In connection with this review, we have reduced our 2020 non-GAAP adjusted operating expense guidance range by $100 million. While Jerry covered some of the specific actions we've taken that factor into our updated guidance range, we expect to provide additional details as we move forward into the second half of this year. Given that we no longer expect to launch in NASH this year we believe the steps we've taken to reduce expenses combined with our growing PBC business will allow us to support the regulatory process with the FDA, continue to invest in our growing PBC business and fund our key ongoing clinical trials. We now expect 2020 non-GAAP adjusted operating expenses to be in the range of $460 million to $500 million, down from the previous range of between $560 million and $600 million. In summary, I'm pleased with these initial steps we've taken to reduce our operating expenses and assure you that we will continue to be prudent as we assess our future investments. We remain in a strong financial position as we focus on bringing important therapies to patients with non-viral liver disease. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for any questions. Operator?
  • Operator:
    Our first question or comment comes from the line of Michael Yee from Jefferies. Your line is open.
  • Michael J. Yee:
    Hey, good morning. Thanks and congrats on a good PBC quarter. Maybe for Mark or the team, obviously, you made a comment about preparing for a Type A meeting ahead of a discussion on NASH. Maybe you could just shed some light on what you think the two to three scenarios you think simplifying that could be? Do you still think you could file this year or it would be next year? And would you wait to get your meeting minutes back to update us or if there was pretty good clarity you could come back to us pretty quickly as you meet with them? Thanks.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Yeah. Thanks, Mike. So as you mentioned we're very focused right now in preparing for the Type A meeting. And as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, we've been really working meticulously with a number of external experts – NASH experts to ensure that we really reframe all aspects of benefit risk here with the risk sentiment (00
  • Michael J. Yee:
    Okay. Thanks.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Thanks, Mike.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Yasmeen Rahimi from Piper Sandler. Your line is open.
  • Yasmeen Rahimi:
    Hi, team. Thank you for taking my questions. Two quick question. The first one is, can you share with us what your expectation is in terms of how much feedback you're going to get from the FDA in the Type A meeting that could be informative for you? And then the second question is, can you shed a little bit light into the upcoming late-breaker poster which you'll be sharing with us is the 24-month data of transaminases and non-invasive biomarkers? And thank you again for taking our questions.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Sure, Yas. And congrats on your new role. I think with respect to the first part of the question, again, we are taking the time to really prepare well for this Type A meeting and set the stage hopefully for the most constructive interaction with the review division as possible such that we really maximize the chance that we are able to reach alignment on key issues to support resubmission. So while typically a Type A meeting following a CRL letter is more meant for the agency to communicate its view on deficiencies, here we are really working to ensure that we provide them with a comprehensive reframing the basis for the resubmission, so hopefully that will be productive. But as I mentioned in answer to the previous question, could very well be and we'll be prepared for this that additional interaction and steps might be required to reach alignment. With respect to EASL, we're excited about the upcoming virtual EASL at the end of the end of the month. We've got a number of abstracts on both the NASH and PBC programs. You mentioned late-breaker. I mean I believe that all of the abstracts including the late-breakers are going to be made available by EASL or most late-breakers in about 10 days from now. And in general, I would say we're excited that we'll be able to present data – longer-term exposure data of 24 plus months that are highly suggestive in our view of continuing and further benefit that these patients on OCA are receiving with longer-term treatment.
  • Yasmeen Rahimi:
    Thank you, Mark, and best of luck as you head into the meeting.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Thank you.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Alethia Young from Cantor. Your line is open.
  • Alethia Young:
    Hey, guys. Thanks for taking my question. And I just wanted to maybe just ask a little bit about depending on what happens with Type A, is there a way to potentially appeal and escalate further that could help kind of expedite the process. Thank you.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Yeah. Thanks for the question Alethia. So the first steps here and what we're absolutely focused on is the Type A meeting. And as I mentioned in answer to the previous two questions, we hope to position ourselves to really have a highly constructive interaction with the review division. And we will absolutely be prepared to take additional steps in support of our view that the totality of data on both sides of the benefit risk very much do support the basis for accelerated approval and we'll continue to make that case with the agency.
  • Alethia Young:
    Great. Thanks.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Joel Beatty from Citi. Your line is open.
  • Joel L. Beatty:
    Hi. Thanks for taking the question. Has FDA seen any unblinded outcomes data from the ongoing REGENERATE trial? And is it possible that they could see that in a future when you refile? Thanks.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Yeah. Thanks, Joel. So the way this study is designed, again, as the outcomes trial time-to-event analysis, after the month 18 interim analysis, we've as a sponsor and the agency are to remain blinded on two outcomes data right until the end of the study. It is theoretically possible that FDA could access unblinded outcomes data along the way but that's not currently provided for in the protocol or the statistical analysis plan.
  • Joel L. Beatty:
    Got it. Thank you.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Jay Olson from Oppenheimer. Your line is open.
  • Jay Olson:
    Oh, hi. Thank you for taking the questions. Depending on how the Type A meeting goes with the FDA, would Intercept consider a narrowed strategy to focus on rare liver diseases including strengthening your leadership position in PBC by developing a combination of OCA with bezafibrate and possibly pursuing OCA for PSC based on the strength of your AESOP study and potentially walking away from NASH?
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Well, look I mean, first, I would answer that we are confident in our data from REGENERATE and our entire NASH program in support of approval of OCA as the first treatment in NASH. And of course, huge focus of the company right now is to – starting with the Type A meeting that we're planning for – is to get the review back on track and work as hard as possible to ensure that we get the first NASH treatment patients with advanced fibrosis who as you know currently have no available treatments to them. But the thrust of your question is I think is important to point out is the enormous value I think of our foundational business and PBC which has reported as you know a record quarter since launch, business continues to grow. And we continue very much to be committed to patients with PBC who has a need and are eligible for Ocaliva treatment worldwide. So, we'll continue to strive to build that business. And in the unexpected eventuality that you're flagging, we certainly have a great foundational business to continue to build the company up on.
  • Jay Olson:
    Great. Thanks for taking the question.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Mayank Mamtani from B. Riley. Your line is open.
  • Mayank Mamtani:
    Thanks team for taking my question and appreciate this detailed update on the CRL. So very quickly on the – could you give any comment on the pre-AdCom package that you were working on? And in context of that, what is incremental that you might be working towards this early October meeting for Type A? I think you said data set in context of both benefit and risk, but Mark could you be more specific what you may have had before for your AdCom versus, what you might be thinking about for your Type A.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
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  • Mayank Mamtani:
    That's great. Very helpful color, Mark. And if I can quickly ask Sandip for a quick follow up on the R&D tax credit you received, I believe from the UK government. Is that a one-time thing or should we be modeling something else in the coming quarters?
  • Sandip S. Kapadia:
    Yeah. Hi Mayank. It's Sandip here. Yeah. That's a benefit that's offered by the UK government for the certain percentage of our R&D expenses, they provide as a credit back. We've applied for a few years and we're pleased that we received some of the payment here. I mean, I wouldn't say it's an annual thing that you would kind of model in, but as we make progress on our plans, we'll certainly continue to update you, but it certainly – we're very pleased with the effort that – and the support that we have on this which allowed us obviously to reduce our operating expenses this quarter.
  • Mayank Mamtani:
    Great. Thanks so much for taking my question.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Brian Abrahams from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
  • Brian Abrahams:
    Hi there. Thanks so much for taking my question. Can you share any thoughts in light of the CRL and some of the evolving data analyses as to whether there may be any more specifically appropriate NASH subpopulations that could maximally benefit from OCA and for whom FDA's overall view of benefit risk may differ how that overall relates to this idea of reframing? And then you also mentioned the expectations for an AdCom. Have you guys formally requested an AdCom as part of any sort of dispute resolution process and if so, have you heard yet in writing? Thanks.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Yeah. Thanks, Brian. With respect to the first part of your question, as you know that the population studies, our breakthrough designation is in NASH patients with liver fibrosis which stands the range of potentially everything from early F1 fibrosis to well (00
  • Brian Abrahams:
    Thanks so much.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Thanks.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Jim Birchenough from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
  • Jim Birchenough:
    Yeah. Hi, guys. Congrats on the Ocaliva quarter. Maybe a tough question to answer, but you've mentioned a few times looking to reach alignment with FDA and clearly off the CRL letter, there's not alignment yet. How do you avoid hearing what you want to hear and getting true alignment and how do you communicate that to the street that that your view of alignment is FDA's view of alignment? Thanks.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Thanks, Jim. Look, I think it starts with being meticulously prepared both in terms of the briefing book that we expect to shortly submit and the lead up to and the participation in the meeting where hopefully we set up – set the stage for a truly constructive, transparent exchange of views and something that we can base alignment on as a basis for resubmission. Of course, the moment whether it's at that meeting or any required follow up interactions where we feel that we have enough from the agency to base resubmission on, we'll obviously be communicating that to you. But I think that it's difficult to speculate right now on exactly what that's going to look like.
  • Jim Birchenough:
    And Mark, the data you'll present at EASL is that data that would be new to FDA and are you bringing that to the Type A meeting?
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Yeah. I mean, some of it will be new at least with respect to the prior submission. FDA, I'm sure will have an opportunity to see it, present it at EASL and yes, we intend to include really the core efficacy data with the primary focus on the fibrosis benefit in the Type A meeting.
  • Jim Birchenough:
    Great. Thanks for taking the questions.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Thanks, Jim.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Salveen Richter from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.
  • Salveen Richter:
    Hi. Good morning. Thanks for taking the question. Can you just elaborate a little bit further on what you mean by reframing the risk benefit profile? What does that really look like versus how you initially presented it to the agency?
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Well, it's really a question of focusing on the submitted data. I mean, as we mentioned on June 29 it's our clear belief based on the Complete Response Letter that there was not a complete review of the data and appreciation of the magnitude of benefit and I gave an example, couple of questions ago about recent developments in appreciation of the impact of pathologist variability and how that leads to an underestimation of treatment effects. And so part of the reframing of this is just really clarifying the magnitude of benefit, also clarifying additional safety and then pointing the way and this is new work (00
  • Salveen Richter:
    Great thank you.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Thanks.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Alan Carr from Needham & Company. Your line is open.
  • Alan Carr:
    Hi, thanks for taking my questions. Can you give us a little more detail on where things stand in the European review, and is that a decision which you expect this year? And what's your latest estimates on penetration in the US and Europe and in the PBC market, where do you think you can get? Thanks.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Sure. I'll answer the first part and hand it to Jerry for the second. So in Europe, as I mentioned in my prepared remarks, review remains on track. Well, obviously it really just started in January, so we're at an earlier stage in the review. But as we've guided before Alan we do not expect approval or revenues in Europe this year. That it's going to be a next year completion of review. With respect to penetration, Jerry, if you could take that.
  • Jerome B. Durso:
    Yeah. Thanks, Alan. It's Jerry. We continue to believe and see that the PBC market has good remaining potential for us to access both in the US and in Europe. I think if you look at the growth, we posted in the first half in the sales guidance despite the disruption that's obviously out there with COVID, it's an indicator that there continues to be patients out there that need to be identified for appropriate therapy and Ocaliva within the indication, the confidence that the individual prescribing physicians have as they gain more experience over time leads us to that. So there are more patients. I think the opportunity now with the CRL to really refocus commercially back to PBC as we move into next period is going to allow us to continue to grow and we still again feel we have a significant opportunity in the PBC opportunity.
  • Alan Carr:
    Okay. Thank you for taking my questions.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Brian Skorney from Baird. Your line is open.
  • Jack Allen:
    Hi. Thank you. This is Jack dialing in for Brian. I know you mentioned a little bit on REGENERATE and that you plan to share some new data with the FDA from the EASL abstract. But I was wondering if you could also give us an update with respect to the long-term outcomes data from REGENERATE. Have you seen any of that data unblinded? Has FDA seen any of that data on an unblinded basis? And is there any I guess aspect to that data set that you would plan to use for a potential resubmission? Thank you.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Yeah. Thanks for the questions. No, I mean as I mentioned earlier in the call, REGENERATE is an ongoing blinded outcomes data and its powered based on time to event with a target 291 events prior to un-blinding. And as currently planned, both we and the agency will remain blinded to outcomes data until the completion of the study. It is theoretically possible that the agency – we could make provisions for the agency to view approved (00
  • Jack Allen:
    Awesome. Thank you so much.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Thanks.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Geoff Meacham from Bank of America. Your line is open.
  • Aspen Mori:
    Hey guys, it's Aspen on for Geoff. Thanks for taking our questions. I guess, first up on NASH, do any of today's updates be the lowered OpEx guidance, Ocaliva revenue guidance, redeploy PBC field force. Does any of that speak to maybe a strategic shift away from NASH depending on how the Type A meeting and align with FDA goes? And then, quickly on PBC, I'd love to get your thoughts on – latest thoughts on the competitive landscape given that some of your competitors are already in Phase 3 or starting to move into that phase? Thank you.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
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  • Aspen Mori:
    Thank you.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Jerry, Sandip, I don't know if you have anything to add about refocusing investments.
  • Jerome B. Durso:
    No. I guess just maybe one other point is that, obviously the opportunity now to refocus the commercial efforts on PBC will continue to be as Mark suggested at the center of the scientific conversation with NASH that won't change. I think the final point is that we have obviously learned a huge amount in terms of our efforts in market. And as I said in the prepared remarks, believe strongly that the education we've already taken underway will have a lasting effect. And that as we progress and really have a better understanding of our path forward we'll be well positioned to do the right things quickly in order to pivot back as and when it's appropriate.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Steve Seedhouse from Raymond James. Your line is open.
  • Steven Seedhouse:
    Good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Mark I just have to drill down more on the discussion of patient selection and risk benefit, because you pretty nicely highlighted the rationale for focusing on the fibrosis subsets, bridging fibrosis, et cetera. You didn't really mention narrowing the focus on the potential risk side of the equation which, of course, is ostensibly highest in patients on statins, diabetics, et cetera. So maybe could you clarify, part of the regulatory strategy is, in fact, narrowing the initial label with respect to co-morbidities versus what you originally intended, that'd be helpful? Thank you.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Yeah. Thanks for the question. So there isn't that kind of broader incent. But let me just take a step back and point out that the way that the FDA and the EMA view the NASH population, two distinct populations, they're NASH patients with fibrosis who have not yet developed cirrhosis and then there are patients who are already cirrhotic. And as you know, we have a fully enrolled Phase 3 trial REVERSE studying OCA 10 and 25 milligrams in NASH patients with compensated cirrhosis which is expected to read out by the end of next year. But that's opened under a separate IND. And so what that means for us and for anyone developing a NASH drug with an initial focus on NASH fibrosis is that that will define the population. And so on the risk side of it, on the risk side of the equation, obviously cirrhotics are a significantly stepped up risk particularly, well, really exclusively in our view cirrhotics with evidence on some amount of hepatic impairment of declining hepatic reserve and/or clinically significant portal hypertension. And so when I talk about managing the risk and identifying patients appropriate for treatment and to exclude from treatment, I'm really talking about identifying such patients at greater risk who will not be part of the initial indicated population and that's true for us. That's also true for anyone who follows us with a initial focus at least on the NASH fibrosis population. But actually to be complete in response to your question, no, we don't intend. We saw benefit in diabetics and non-diabetics. We've long maintained with respect to patients who are dyslipidemic and this is in the AASLD and EASL guidelines that these patients can safely and effectively use statin therapy. And we generate a lot of data showing that the safe use and effective use of statins in combination with OCA to manage LDL.
  • Steven Seedhouse:
    Great. Thank you.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Thanks.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment comes from the line of Navin Jacob from UBS. Your line is open.
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  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Sandip?
  • Sandip S. Kapadia:
    Yeah, hi, it's Sandip. Thanks for the question. I think what I mean since the letter I mean we're very much focused on having a plan in place which allowed us today to give an update to take down our operating expense range by $100 million. With regard to context further on that I mean Jerry did speak a little bit about discontinuing of our contract sales force, pulling back on our NASH prelaunch investments, as well as we're looking at expenses across the rest of the organization as well. So I can't really provide like if you want to call it a break out at this stage. But I can assure you that we'll continue be prudent as we assess our future investments and continue to update you as we execute on our plans.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question or comment will come from the line of Michael Morabito. Your line is open.
  • Michael V. Morabito:
    Thank you team for taking the questions. I wanted to ask you, generally the guidelines for the EMA are viewed as slightly more difficult than FDA. And so, considering the CRL and the submission that you have with EMA, what gives you hope about your submission there and how that regulatory process is going that you would expect a more positive outcome?
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Yeah. Well, I think you're referring to the EMA reflection paper which is equivalent to a draft guidance on the development of NASH fibrosis drugs which came out, I guess a year-and-half ago now. And that does suggest that both of the primary endpoints of fibrosis improvement with no worsening of NASH and NASH resolution, no worsening of fibrosis need to be demonstrated. There's also provision for drugs that are primarily anti-fibrotic to support the fibrosis benefit with demonstration of two fibrosis stage improvement. And we've long maintained that based on the totality of our data with OCA and REGENERATE, that we have convincing efficacy as the basis for submission of our MAA and we continue to feel that we have a constructive basis for continuing to proceed in the review with EMA. I would also point out that while it's true that the two agencies interact with one another in general and then, specifically on NASH and certainly, they have an opportunity to exchange views through things like the liver forum and maybe over time there will be a harmonization of approach. You know EMA, of course, is an independent regulatory agency and we would expect that their review of our NDA will be their own. And, of course, as is true on the US side, we hope to support the fact that the data generated in the month 18 [Technical Difficulty] (00
  • Michael V. Morabito:
    Thanks, Mark.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. At this time, we will need to end the Q&A session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Dr. Pruzanski for any closing remarks.
  • Mark E. Pruzanski:
    Yeah. Thanks operator. [Technical Difficulty] (00
  • Operator:
    Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone have a wonderful day.