Intrusion Inc.
Q3 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

Published: 13 Nov 2020

[Operator:]

Good afternoon and welcome to the Intrusion's Third Quarter 2020 Financial Results Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. At the conclusion of today's conference call instructions will be given for the question-and-answer session. As a remainder today's conference call is being recorded for replay purposes. I'd now like to turn the call over to Joel Achramowicz of Shelton Group Investor Relations. Joe please go ahead.

[Joel Achramowicz:]

Thank you, Jason. Good afternoon and welcome to Intrusion's Third Quarter 2020 earnings conference call. I'm Joel Achramowicz, Managing Director at Shelton Group, Intrusion's Investor Relations firm. Joining me today are Jack Blount, Intrusion's President and CEO; Joe Head, Intrusion's Co-Founder and Senior Vice President of Direct Sales and Michael Paxton, Intrusion's CFO.

[Mike Paxton:]

Thanks, Joe. And thank you to everyone who has joined us today. Now let's get to the third quarter results. Revenue for the quarter was 1.6 million compared to 1.7 million in the prior quarter and 3.9 million same quarter a year ago. Revenue for the third quarter continued to be impacted by extended government shutdowns related to the pandemic delaying renewals of our legacy business. We expect our legacy business to recover once conditions normalize. Gross Margin in third quarter was 58.9% versus 60.7% last quarter and 62.1% in the third quarter 2019. Operating expenses were 2.3 million compared to 1.7 million last quarter and 0.9 million in the same quarter a year ago. Net loss for the third quarter of 2020 was 1.4 million compared to a net loss at 0.7 million in the prior quarter and net income of 1.5 million third quarter 2019. After accrual of preferred dividends, net loss per share attributable to common shareholders in the third quarter was $0.10 on 14.45 million shares, compared to a net loss per share attributable to common shareholders of $0.05 in the prior quarter and net income to common shareholders of $0.09 per diluted share in the same quarter a year ago.

[Joe Head:]

Thanks Mike. Appreciate it, Mike. Let's start with Shield. The beta program continues to be boring, but very worthwhile. We found a few rough edges and put out updates to respond to beta feedback. We're also getting feedback on a few select new features, which are being added for release in the next two weeks. These improvements add new reports listing which machines are worse than others in terms of automatic mitigation of compromises by our AI. We deployed two more beta Shields in the past week, one to a user or company recovering from a ransomware attack. My direct sales team is mostly complete now. Four of the five regional sales managers hired and trained already. We just had one person missing in the northwest, but have some good candidates. Also have a Shields federal sales manager who's working on DOD sales and certifications. All the team knows about Shields and how to demo and to sell it. The team is making pitches to different organizations and comparing notes with each other daily on what sales approaches and customer types are showing good responses to which approach. As you know we're in the pre-sales stage at this point, while we're still in beta. The sales team view Shield as a refreshing product to sell. It represents something truly new which everyone needs. It has a compelling story. With the ease of installation, the sales model being security as a service, and the fact that it automatically mitigates threats without increasing IT workloads. As Jack will probably talk about, we had a full round of training on Shield for three days last week, which included our reseller partner channel team and direct marketing teams as well. In the previous two quarters, calls in June and August, the government was still under shutdown. From our government customer standpoint, they're still not very open.

[Jack Blount:]

Thank you, Joe. Those were a lot of good information you passed to everybody. And thank you for ignoring COVID and going to DC and working with our good customers up there. I know travel is difficult. Like you, I've been out of town this week. And I just landed a few minutes ago myself. So travel is not back to normal yet, it's still quite challenging. Thank you all for being on the call today. Certainly, the forefront of everything that's on our mind today is Shield. Shield is a product that's been shipping in beta now for almost two months. And I think it's relevant to discuss some specifics about just how well Shield is performing. Given that Joe said it was boring. We have processed many billion packets of information through our 12 beta customers. And we've actually identified and killed 8,118,926 attacks in the month of October alone at just 12 customers. That may seem like an extraordinary number. It is. But what I tell customers every day is I believe that 12% of all internet traffic today is malware. We are under attack from every country, from every part of the world 24x7. And prior to this, I think people viewed cybercrime as the kid that dropped out of school working in his grandmother's basement. That's simply not true today. There are armies of PhDs sitting in China, Russia, and other countries who have written very sophisticated AI programs that use supercomputers to attack every second of every day around the clock.

[Operator:]

Your first question comes from the line of Zach Cummins from B. Riley Securities. Your line is open.

[Zach Cummins:]

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions. And thank you for all the really helpful updates around Shield. So I guess just starting off with the reseller program, it sounds like you're in the later stages with a pretty major reseller. But I was just pretty curious of the dozen or so others that you're targeting. Just want to get a sense of your strategy of the mix there of pure technology resellers versus maybe integrators and consulting firms that would be selling this product.

[Jack Blount:]

Well, we certainly want to go to all the market over time. I focused initially here at the first on technology resellers, because they're the ones that are most aware of the problem and we're looking out to the other segments. Certainly, I have relationships with Deloitte and Accenture, for example, I have - I do have a trip scheduled in January to go to DC and meet with executives at both of those firms in the same week. I do think we can bring them on as a system integrator, reseller, consultant for the Shield product, I really had no pushback from hardly anybody I've met with about Shield. They recognize how unique it is. They recognize how affordable it is. They recognize that it's the first plug and play IT product in the market. And they recognize that it proves its value five minutes after you install it, which I don't know any other IT product that actually does that. So the reception has been very good. It's just been about bandwidth. I have been internally focused here to get the product out initially, then to start hiring salespeople to train them. And now that I'm getting a sales force in place, I will be able to reach out to the relationships I have with the channel where I've spent all six of the companies I've run, I've sold my products through the channel. And I think we'll be able to fire up the channel very quickly.

[Zach Cummins:]

Understand that's helpful. And then to that point to kind of your last statement there, I was going to ask, what's really the typical ramp time we should be thinking about for each reseller partner, once you have a formalized relationship in place?

[Jack Blount:]

Well, I guess that's going to be new, because again, they don't really - they've never had a plug and play IT product. They never had a product that they could walk in the door and through a Zoom session, login to a live one and actually show them how it works. So their initial reaction to me is they think they're going to have people effective within 30 days that the learning curve is going to be very, very short. And they're going to be very productive very fast. I think that's true, we will certainly see. It is a very, very different product in that regard. They like the fact that they're going to get paid a renewal revenue. So they don't just make money up front, they make money every month the customer continues to use the product. So they have a revenue stream guaranteed just as we do. So it's a really kind of a game changer in the channel market. And I think it's going to be extremely well received.

[Zach Cummins:]

Understood that's helpful. And then with the direct sales force, it sounds like you largely have the entire team in place now. I'm just curious what's really the strategy and how they're really going to be attacking the market now, now that your resellers in place and I guess what are the types of customers they're really going to be targeting to try to get in the door?

[Jack Blount:]

Well, again, my experience in the past is where the reseller channel generally has not been real effective, certainly not up front is in your fortune 500, fortune 100 accounts. And those are longer lead times. They take more work. They take more level of expertise. And we believe those will take a very experienced cybersecurity sales executive who's been doing this for years with other products to be able to go in and educate them to be able to talk to the half a dozen or 12 different executives that you get involved in, in those size companies. But our goal is to use that direct sales force. That's why we put Joe in charge of it because Joe's only sold really to the government and a couple of Fortune 100 customers his whole career. He's really focused at the very, very high end complex side of the market. So we think he is the right person to really lead that sales force to be effective, killing the giants and bringing in amazing success next year.

[Zach Cummins:]

Understood and then just one final question for me and then I'll pass over the line. But in terms of the beta testing, it's, it's almost hard to fathom the amount of threads that you blocked in the month of October. So really demonstrating the value of the product. I'm just curious if you can share anything, the feedback you've received from a lot of the participants in a beta test, and whether you think they are going to be interested in signing a contract at the end of the test.

[Jack Blount:]

I expect them all to sign a contract. I've had two CEOs told me I can't take the product out until I replace it with a GA product. For example, I had one COO this week, tell me that he now has three beta machines at three different business of his so he's a kind of a roll up company. He has a lot of smaller companies that he's bought underneath his umbrella. So we initially went into their corporate office, they got a second Shield from us and went into one of their other subsidiaries. They just took a third one from us last week, and we're installing it yesterday, and the third company, and I spent about two hours talking to him. And he said to me verbally that if things continue the way they are right now that he plans to roll this out in every one of his subsidiaries in 2021. That would certainly be thousands of Shields.

[Zach Cummins:]

Understood, well, it sounds like there's exciting things ahead. So thanks again for taking my questions.

[Jack Blount:]

My pleasure. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Your next question comes from the line of Howard Brous from Wellington Shields. Your line is open.

[Howard Brous:]

Thank you, Jack, Joe, Mike I Just want to congratulate you on the transformation from government business to commercial business and doing what you're doing. I think that it's great. So congratulations to all three of you. Joe, I would like to address the old base business if you will, you talked about two contracts 1.2 million and 1.7 million? Do you have any other potential contracts going into procurement?

[Joe Head:]

We have several more renewals coming in. And we've got some excitement rolling about some new projects. I met with two of those today. So I interjected that, that the traditional kind of things that we talk about that there's so much focus is on Shield. But we have the same level of activity and same prospect pile that we've been working on through the pandemic side of things. Plus, I think some new things have opened up with Shield, which I've obviously put some focus on, particularly in the defense contractor space of protecting them with Shield, because a lot of stuff we've done traditionally is reporting on who's eating you instead of fixing it. And so we've had some good discussions about how to attack that market from helping the guys that normally defend the government as well as selling directly to the people affected.

[Howard Brous:]

Just as I look at the old trades, got government business, can I look at it somewhat similar to 2019 or close to it? Does that sound reasonable at this point in time?

[Joe Head:]

It does minus the one bubble cushion order we had. Go ahead Jack.

[Jack Blount:]

Yeah, I was just going to say if the election can get over and the government can actually go back to business. Yes, there is a big demand for that service, for that database, for that content. But again, between the pandemic and the election, government hasn't done anything in months. And I'm hoping that will be behind us. By the time we close the year at Christmas, and we'll be off and really moving forward in January. Every consultant I've talked to believes that so I'm pretty bullish that our traditional consulting business will be back to where it was in 2019. As you know, recently, I did an announcement that I promoted Mike McClure to be VP of that division, so that we did not lose focus on it. As the rest of us were focused on Shield business. So we do have that being focused and we do have that growing.

[Howard Brous:]

Since getting to Shield part you were saying earlier, Joe was something about ransomware and I think get it - the phone - just started to check the phone, so I - could you talk about ransomware, was there any of the data tested where you prevented ransomware from hitting them.

[Joe Head:]

We've seen plenty of signs that we stopped the ransomware from calling home and that's in those 8 million in there. That's the ever-present thing that Shield does for us. It stops the ransomware by neutralizing any beachhead they establish. The comment I made that probably blipped out was that this last week, we added two more Shield beta customers and put them online. One of those was just recovering from a ransomware attack. And I'd made the comment to their President, as he talked to me for what he should do next, is that Sony, I think went through five or six redeployments of hardware, yeah, they get wiped, they'd restored the stuff, but they didn't replace the hardware. So down hidden in BIOS, and hidden in the computers was the original pathogens that ate them again, and ate them again. And then finally, they bought all new computers and put all new software on it from scratch and isolated that from the poisoned network. And so my comment was that we've - yes, of our 16 or so beta customers, two of those, were just reeling from the process of recovering from a ransomware attack. The entire 12% of all the traffic that is malware related that we're blocking. Yeah, this is what you needed. Somebody does to not tell you what hits you in the stomach, but tell you, it stopped it from hitting you.

[Jack Blount:]

I was just going to say, I think one of the things that people don't understand Joe about ransomware, is they seem to be under the impression that it gets on your network, and then it goes in and encrypts your data and in your - it's already in your launch. Ransomware is not that sophisticated, it doesn't work that way. The actual code that they have to put on your network on your computer, to be able to track your backups. And when you're doing them and where you're doing them. And what data has been backed up is a very large program. You can't get that program on a network out front. So what you do is you get a beachhead on the network with a very, very tiny piece of code that looks innocuous to everyone. And then it calls home. The way networks are designed, anything inside of your network can call out any place at once. So it calls home and then it starts downloading the sophisticated applications that are going to monitor your entire network, encrypt your database. So we in this 8 million 70% of those kills that we did were on outbound traffic. I would say a large number of those. We are researching this deeper right now. But I would say a large number of those are actually ransomware call homes that ever successfully call home so they can't download anything to attack you. So that's why we attack ransomware so effectively, is because we understand how it works. And we understand that it has to use call homes to be effective against you. And we simply don't allow call homes to happen.

[Howard Brous:]

So let me understand that these computers have already been infected it's just the process of calling home that you've interfered with.

[Joe Head:]

Correct.

[Jack Blount:]

Right. They have the infection, they know how to call home, but that's all they know how to do at this point. They don't know how to encrypt your data, they don't know how to find your data on your network. The code isn't that smart or that sophisticated. If it was it be too big, and it would be blocked by firewalls and other cybersecurity products. These malware agents that are getting on people's networks, just like the ones that are built into chip coming from China are tiny, they're very tiny, they really can't do anything. When I was in the government, the CIO, we looked at millions of these. And everyone we looked at was a tiny piece of code that could do one and only one thing call home. But when it successfully calls home, then it can download whatever it wants. It can do whatever it wants to you. And that's how they've been so successful. Since we don't allow call home 70% of this 8 million that we blocked, that we killed was called home.

[Howard Brous:]

So you have currently 16 beta customers.

[Jack Blount:]

Yes, we do.

[Howard Brous:]

When would you convert one of the other - January 1, you told in January 1, but beginning of January those 16 customers, beta customers will convert to Shield customers? Is that correct?

[Jack Blount:]

Yes, it's, I believe we will have them - most of them if not 100% of them as customers starting January 4.

[Howard Brous:]

In addition the salesman you hired are selling the product also for a January if you will start date?

[Jack Blount:]

Correct. So they're doing pre-sales taking orders, so that we can ship product January 4 to a number of new customers around the country. This will be a new build. That's what you do betas for. As Joe said, we've added a number of features that customers have requested. We've found two significant bugs that have been fixed. And the product will be much improved when we ship it to the full market.

[Joe Head:]

So my comment earlier guys is the beta has been relatively boring, and that we just found the two big bugs and had a few requests to enhance. But what's been not boring at all is the huge amount of call homes that nobody appreciated, being as large as they are. It's amazing, and much more blocked.

[Howard Brous:]

And Joe, that was definitely my last question, how boring has it been?

[Joe Head:]

Well, I use it from the perspective of - I hate when you have a problem to get somebody on the phone that doesn't know what they're talking about. So we made sure all of our sales folks are network technical, good people, so that when somebody answers the phone, they can understand your question and help you go through it right now. Because you get a lot of security questions. So it's been boring from the perspective of we're not having midnight, or other calls that say I'm having problems help me. So it's boring in that it takes care of itself and didn't need any configuration, there was nothing you screwed up when you set it up that needs fixing. But from a usability standpoint, you just train the folks here's how to use the Shield dashboard and then it becomes a self-licking ice cream cone because they see all the stuff that they never saw before. And then they saw the stuff that you protected them from that they didn't even know was going on. The other thing we've said that we want to repeat in passing is that ransomware gets the headlines. But ransomware is like Ebola, it kills you fast, but it doesn't kill that many people. The slow drip of stealing intellectual property is more slow death, that doesn't make the headlines. And it's the vast majority of the three trillion two years ago and the 6 trillion next year. That's economic damage from the silent theft. And to us all the call homes are just a messaging method for remote guys to do numerous things. The major part being theft of intellectual property.

[Howard Brous:]

Which continent has - another question, and I apologize. The conversion of these government pieces of business to Shield, does it take place near term, long-term and how large could it possibly be in terms of some of the pieces of the Department of Defense as an example?

[Joe Head:]

I think the defense contractors are probably relatively shorter time frame than government itself because of just bureaucracy and the magnitude of people, you have to get concurrent on. So most people see that as a longer term, 12, 18-month cycle. As jack mentioned, and we think we're going to have some quicker ones, particularly those that are already in deep doo and looking for help. But I would think that the defense contractors are probably in the six month-ish frame on the fast converters, but it's - big account sales take a while. But we believe that the pent-up appetite and the ease of installation and the quickness of proven its efficacy against the problem. It's hard to guess how quick things are going to accelerate, but we do expect some shortening of sales cycles.

[Howard Brous:]

Jack, Joe, Mike, thank you very much. Congratulations on the transformation.

[Joe Head:]

Thanks Howard.

[Howard Brous:]

My pleasure.

[Jack Blount:]

Thank you.

[Mike Paxton:]

Thank you, Howard.

[Operator:]

Your next question comes from the line of Ross Taylor from ARS Investment. Your line is open

[Ross Taylor:]

Thank you. A couple quick questions. First, are any of your beta sites defense contractors?

[Jack Blount:]

No, they're not.

[Ross Taylor:]

Okay, it would seem that that would be a very rich market given how aggressively penetrated they are. I mean, Joe gets to talk to anyone that seems like the Chinese have plans for .

[Jack Blount:]

I actually one I missed, yes. One of them is. I apologize for that. One of them is a defense contractor. And they're very, very happy with the product.

[Ross Taylor:]

That's cool. As I said, it seems like there's a definite real need there. Second, you've built a pretty substantial team that looks like it's a pretty impressive team. Are you building that team on the anticipation of having this product development in the market or is this a reaction to what you've already seen? The fact that you open to a pre-sale would seem to indicate you already are seeing demand and demand push to try to get you to start to build a backlog. Is that the case?

[Jack Blount:]

Yes, we certainly - I felt we were seeing the demand that couldn't be ignored. But I couldn't ship when I'm still in beta. And I'm still fixing bugs and making it better. So we decided to take the approach that Apple has very successfully taken for the past many years, doing pre-sales, get the customer's information. And to get their addresses, find out what they need, find out what their network looks like, so that we can successfully do a very quick start in the marketplace. Again, this is a radically different product, the plug and play alone makes it a radically different product. The fact that it doesn't generate alerts, but actually kills bad things makes it a radically different product. So I think it is going to have a very, very rapid a word of mouth kind of adoption. And I wanted salespeople industry that that they could get a hold of that could come on site as needed. As the channel wraps up, I believe the channel will take over the bulk of our sales in 2021. But to jumpstart it, especially at the low end, I think telesales is very, very commonly the only way to get to the SMB market. And at the very high end, direct sales is the only way to get to that market. But that leaves about 70% of the market for the channel to service. We're not going to compete with the channel, we're going to take them leads, we're going to support them in growing that market, we understand their value, we want them to be insanely successful.

[Ross Taylor:]

Okay, and this is a product that would seem to do very well, if you can get it into the public mindset. So what efforts are you guys going to be making in the coming weeks to get this in front of people. And as I said, it's almost seems like it should be an infomercial or printed on QVC says something about?

[Jack Blount:]

Yes, we are going to do a lot of advertising. We have a very, very talented marketing lady that's working on things for us already. You may have seen our Wall Street Journal ad that ran a couple of weeks ago, full page. That generated I don't know how many thousands of either emails or phone calls off of that. But that was insanely successful, to make - to raise the awareness. Really the two things that I think that I have been blessed in being able to put together because of my background experience and reputation. I may have mentioned this before to some of you, but I don't think I've said it on the call. I have secured a spot-on Fox Business News with Kathy Ireland, late in this month, November. They say their viewership for that show is 100 million viewers worldwide. So this will be a premier explanation, demonstration of the value and ease of use of Shield available to all America. In addition to that, and I think that is foremost, the reason Kathy Ireland want us on this show is because she likes - she's a billionaire. She's a very successful lady. She doesn't do things back to them. She believes we have the most state of the art cybersecurity product she's ever heard of that her experts have heard of. And she wants to be recognized as the lady that brought up to America. So that's a huge exposure. Likewise, in December, I start an infomercial on PBS with Laurence Fishburne on his technology show. They say they have 140 million worldwide viewers. And that filming will be rebroadcast six times once a month for six following months. So that gives us a massive exposure to the marketplace. In addition to that we're running ads in I think nine different technology magazines right now. I think it goes up in Q1 to one to 12 different magazines on a regular every month kind of basis, full page ads, explaining the value, the ease of use of Shield. So we are working diligently and spending our money wisely to get as many touch points as we can. In addition, I'm going to be doing Benchmark Discovery conference in November. I'm doing Needham Growth conference in January. So we have a tremendous amount of exposure in a very short period of time. That's going to move the needle very quickly.

[Ross Taylor:]

As currently designed Shield is really a server-based product. It's kind of thing you put into an office and works best in an office environment as opposed to sort of remote users or for mobile users and things of that nature correct?

[Jack Blount:]

Well, Shield is an appliance that physically installs on your corporate network. And it protects everybody on that network. It protects your IoT devices. Although we don't charge you for those, we only charge you for the servers and the workstations. But it also protects all of your remote workers, as long as they're using a VPN dial in to get back into their Corporation, which almost all businesses make them do. So if you're on a VPN, we view, that is if you're sitting at a workstation in the office, so we're protecting all those remote workers because of COVID that are working home today, using their VPN. So we are getting a large part of the market. As we've pre announced that we have an attempt to spread the market wider, we will be announcing a cloud product early next year. Because the cloud is growing rapidly, people are moving away from their local area networks. There's really three clouds and all three of them have different operating systems, different infrastructures, different environments. So you literally have to develop a solution for each one. Amazon's AWS is the largest market with about 60% market share, Azure is the second largest with 27% market share and Google is the smallest with about 12% market share. So we have a prototype of a product that we had done - have done a lot of luminary work with. But we realized that it was not as complete as needed to be to be able to service those three environments. One of the things that I did is I went out and recruited and hired one of the top cloud architects in the country. He's worked at level three for many years. He worked at AT&T. He is really a brilliant architect. And one of the top experienced cloud architects in the nation, I think. I have hired him. He is working at the company now. He is evaluating our cloud product as we have it developed today. He is building us a spec of what's missing what needs to be done. So we will have a more detailed roadmap about delivering for that to the marketplace in the very near future. Does that help?

[Ross Taylor:]

Yeah, it does help a bit and two last things. One, can you confirm the economics and the price per seat per month and also the profitability? And lastly, will you commit to giving us an update ahead of the end of the year, as you start to see that give us an idea what the rollout is going to look like so we can kind of see where demand starts?

[Jack Blount:]

Well, we'll have to evaluate whether we can do that or not. I certainly have no issue right now with being willing to do that. So I will look into our ability to do that. You lost my train of thought with your first question thought .

[Ross Taylor:]

Yeah, I was confused about the economics of it.

[Jack Blount:]

Yeah, we've been consistent from the very start. It's one price. It's $20 per seat per month. And a seat is either a workstation or a server. As I said, we don't charge for the millions or thousands of IoT devices you have, but because they have an IP address, we are protecting them. So it's very cheap. We think Gartner tells us this priced way too low. We did that deliberately because we want to get large market penetration. There's 34 million businesses in America that need Shield. I want to get to as many of them as I can. There is no contract required. It's simply a monthly service fee. You can sign a contract if you want a 10% discount, you can sign a one-year contract and prepay it. If you want a 25% discount, you can sign a three-year contract. So we do have contracts if you want one or you can stay on a month-to-month try if you to like and model forever. So we want to make it easy to buy, easy to install, easy to see the benefits of it.

[Ross Taylor:]

Well, it sounds really exciting. It's just I mean it seems like it's a game changer.

[Jack Blount:]

Thank you. I believe it is a total game changer. It is the most exciting project in my 42-year career I've ever worked on and I've worked on some pretty successful launches in my career if you studied my career, but I think this will be the biggest one ever. The market is just explosive. Cybercrime is growing out of control, because it's so profitable. As Joe said, everybody hears about ransomware and thinks that's the Big Apple. That's really probably not 20% of the harm that's being done. The real harm - and mostly ransomware, by the way is done by Russia. If you don't know that. The Russia has really dominated. You can actually go out on the internet and buy a ransomware kit platform they call it, and they will sell you and you pay them a percentage of all the money you make. That's how sophisticated and established ransomware is. The real crime is . China's doing most of the real crime, they're stealing the intellectual property. They're stealing the records, they're stealing the assets. It's very common. I talk to businesses at least once a month, probably more often that we're working internally here in America, designing a next generation product for some manufacturing or something else. And apparently, the Chinese got on their network stole their intellectual property, built it in China, and they're selling it before they got their product out at half the price, they were going to charge. And they're putting those businesses bankrupting those businesses. So the real harm that Joe said is the theft of intellectual property. And most of that goes on and nobody ever sees it. They can be on your network for months, years, they can steal all your intellectual property, they can go build a complete pleading product and you never have any idea they were on your network. We're the first and only product that sees them and stops them from exfiltrating that data.

[Ross Taylor:]

Yeah, as I said, it sounds pretty amazing.

[Jack Blount:]

Thank you.

[Ross Taylor:]

Thank you.

[Operator:]

Your final question comes from the line of Russell Cleveland from Renn Capital. Your line is open.

[Russell Cleveland:]

Thanks so much for the call, a lot of good information. I know time is getting on. I just have a simple question. I think most investors looking at it see the potential Shield very exciting product. But the question is, when are we going to be able to announce contracts? We have beta. Now, earlier in the discussion, someone said before January 1 or something, but could you comment on this that they want to see the actual contracts being signed. So can you comment on that?

[Jack Blount:]

Well, as we've consistently said, you will see contracts, you will see customers, you'll see sales in Q1. So again, because we don't require a contract. The pre-sales is really about getting established, getting your address, getting a network information, so that we know where to start shipping things to you. And most of those are not signing contracts, they want to go month-to-month, they want to try and see if they like it, because they say it's too good to be true. I certainly understand why they feel that way. And I know they're going to be convinced. Every beta customer we signed up, basically took it on a bet that I couldn't prove to them that their network was infected. And they thought I was going to pay him $500 for getting on their network, and they got to show me their network is clean. I didn't pay anybody $500. And nobody's given me the beta product back. And three of the customers have already expanded the number of beta products they have. And one of them has said they're going to roll it out corporate wide next year. So the reception is amazing. The numbers will show up in Q1. They will be very aggressive. I am very confident we're going to exceed the numbers that we forecasted during the fundraising when we talked about that. And it's Thanksgiving and Christmas. If you look at the technology market, our competitors aren't selling anything right now. Because there's really nobody that buys much technology in November, December. They're all evaluating, they're all getting new budgets for 2021. It's a very low sales cycle for all technology companies. So we're capitalizing on that by getting the education out there, getting the awareness, getting the customers ready for the product to come in and as soon as the first of the year turns over. And we are very, very confident that we are going to blow out the numbers that we forecasted and have installations right and left. We did not for example, we did not put anything into the numbers we showed you during our fundraising, which was $15 million in revenue from Shield in 2021. We did not build any customer in there with more than 100 seats. So again, we think those are extremely conservative numbers. We already have one customer that's talking to us about 8000 seats. We have another customer that's talking to us about 2000 seats. I have another customer that I met with in Utah that's talking that has 1400 seats. So I believe the forecast we've given you is incredibly conservative. But I want the numbers to prove themselves in Q1 as we start shipping the products and start proving the results to you. I'm from Missouri, show me. So I'm going to show you what we're going to deliver.

[Russell Cleveland:]

Sounds like the - so really, we're not going to announce big contracts, because there is a government going to take this on and major companies without a major contract or not?

[Jack Blount:]

Probably not. If we sign a major contract and we could announce that. If we have a month-to-month contract, we aren't going to pre announce those, we'll let them see how long it takes them to switch over to a contract. I think 90% of our customers are going to shift over to a contract three months after they take our product. We are doing the month-to-month to make it easy for them to try it. Because we know that everybody thinks no cybercrime product works. We said that in the Wall Street Journal, they've all failed. They all think we're going to be yet another failure because they think we're too good to possibly be true. And yet our 14 beta customers are proven we are again, blocking 8 million attacks in one month is extraordinary. It blows everybody's mind.

[Russell Cleveland:]

Well, let me - I guess the answer really is we're not going to be announcing big contracts necessarily. So we're going to basically grow the business, but investors should not expect some big announcement. Is that what I'm hearing?

[Jack Blount:]

Not so later in the year next year, yes. We'll go after halfway through the year after people that we will be - again, I just told you three big contracts that I'm already working on that we will announce those when those sign for sure.

[Russell Cleveland:]

Okay, great. Okay, that's all I have. Thanks so much. I appreciate it.

[Jack Blount:]

Thank you all very much for your time. I just like to make a couple of summary comments. We talked a lot about business. But again, just to let you understand the real breadth of this problem. I did a one of these podcasts last week about the education market. There was over 1000 schools in America hit by ransomware. Last year, many of those who are trying to do Virtual Education with kids at home because they couldn't go to school, and everything shut down. They could not move to their virtual classes. Last month alone, there was 11 major school districts in North America hit by ransomware that was 226 schools were shut down by ransomware last month alone. So this isn't just business. If you are using the internet, you are at risk of ransomware they're coming after everybody. They don't care whether you're big or small. Fundamentally, Gartner says this is a $7 billion market for cybersecurity products in 2021. That's the market we're selling into. 34 million businesses in America, $7 billion market and we believe the product is revolutionary, and it's going to transform cybercrime completely. So we're excited to have you all as investors. We're excited to be out there selling the product we're selling the solution we're selling, and making customers safe to do business again. Thank you Have a great day.

[Operator:]

That concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.