James River Group Holdings, Ltd.
Q1 2019 Earnings Call Transcript

Published: 6 May 2019

[Operator:]

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the James River Q1 2019 Results Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time. And as a reminder today's conference call is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to Kevin Copeland, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

[Kevin Copeland:]

Thank you, Candice. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the James River Group first quarter 2019 earnings conference call. During the call, we will be making forward-looking statements. These statements are based on current beliefs, intentions, expectations and assumptions that are subject to various risks and uncertainties, which may cause actual results to differ materially. For a discussion of such risks and uncertainties, please see the cautionary language regarding forward-looking statements in yesterday's earnings release and the Risk Factors section of our most recent Form 10-K, Form 10-Qs and other reports and filings we make with the Securities and Exchange Commission. We do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statements.

[Robert Myron:]

Thank you, Kevin, and good morning, everyone, and welcome to our investor call. I'm Bob Myron, CEO, and with me today are Sarah Doran, our CFO; and Kevin Copeland, our Chief Investment Officer and Head of Investor Relations. I'll spend some time today talking about our overall results for the quarter and also some specifics on each one of our segments, both results as well as operations. I'll then turn the call over to Sarah, and then we'll get to your questions. We are off to a great start for the year. The $21.7 million of after-tax operating income and the 16.9% annualized return on tangible equity is one of the best quarters we've had in our 17-year history. Our underwriting results were strong with underwriting profits at all three of our segments in a 92.6% combined ratio overall. We had good growth in our two U.S. primary insurance segments, which is where we are focusing our growth efforts. There are many items of note that bode well for the rest of the year. Our expense ratio of 22.6% is market-leading as we continue to carefully manage expenses and get great leverage out of our franchise. I am particularly pleased about growing tangible book value per share from $16.34 to $17.74 in the last three months, while at the same time producing a great return on tangible equity, continuing to pay a nearly 3% dividend. Let me now talk about each of our three segments individually. In our largest segment, E&S submissions were up 17% in the quarter year-over-year, the highest quarterly percentage increase in submissions we have had in the last 11.5 years. In the quarter, we received over 68,000 new and renewal submissions. This reflects the continued strong and growing U.S. economy, the excellent relationships we have with our wholesale brokers and meaningful amounts of business flowing from the admitted market into the E&S market. Pricing on renewals was up about 3% in the quarter on our core E&S business, but the renewal pricing doesn't tell the whole story. I'll give an example of a couple of habitational risks that we wrote in the quarter, which is a class where we are seeing strong flow in our general casualty division from business being nonrenewed in the admitted market. The first one we wrote in the quarter, we received a 100% increase on the expiring premium, wrote it on a tighter coverage form and for the same $25,000 deductible of the expiring policy. The second one we wrote with a 68% price increase relative to the expiring premium on a tighter coverage form with a $5,000 deductible, where previously the account had no deductible.

[Sarah Doran:]

Thanks, Bob, and good morning, everyone. For the first quarter of 2019, we made strong underwriting profits of $7.1 million. We generated an operating profit of $21.7 million, and we're reporting net income of $22.7 million. Our expense ratio of 22.6% is an improvement of 2.3 points from the prior year quarter. While slightly elevated from the sequential quarter, the improvement is largely due to mix. Our E&S segment, which has the lowest expense ratio of the operating segment, now represents about 75% of our earned premium, up from about 65% in the first quarter of last year. We also saw expense ratio improvement in both the Specialty Admitted and Casualty Re segments and as always, continue to be focused on managing our expenses throughout the organization. The 22.6% is an extremely meaningful 10-point advantage to our competitors. We continue to enjoy strong cash flow from our businesses as operating cash flow was $35.4 million this quarter, down slightly due to some timing difference of our Casualty Re segment.

[Robert Myron:]

Thank you, Sarah. Operator, that concludes our prepared remarks. Would you please open the line for questions?

[Operator:]

And our first question comes from Mark Hughes with SunTrust. Your line is now open.

[Mark Hughes:]

Thank you very much. Good morning. Could you talk about -- on the quota share presumably, you'll be getting a ceding commission. Any sense of what the impact of that will be? I assume that will be an offset to operating expenses. But could you give us a little insight what that could do to the margin?

[Robert Myron:]

Yes. So we will be getting a ceding commission, there is -- it will be an offset to operating expenses, but we don't want to get into the terms of -- and conditions of it because it's a private transaction principally with one party. And so I think it's best to just make mention of the fact that we have it. We're happy to have it and how it's going to be accounted for. But don't want to get into the terms and conditions on it, Mark.

[Mark Hughes:]

The share of the risk you're taking now with your large client, are you taking the majority of the risk or is it still a less than half?

[Robert Myron:]

Well, as I know you know, we haven't gotten into the forever sort of talking about the share of the risk that we actually take. I mean, this has obviously increased than it's more than it's been -- more than it's been in the past on a gross basis. But there still is meaningful risk sharing between us and the client.

[Mark Hughes:]

Understood. The current accident year loss in Specialty Admitted, I'm not sure if you touched on that in your prepared remarks, but that was up a bit year-over-year. Would you expect that to stay at that level or should that kind of return to perhaps where it has been last year or the year before?

[Sarah Doran:]

Sure. Thanks for the question, Mark. That comes around a fair amount. We don't have tons of premium in that segment; so 74.5% this quarter is improved from the 77.5% in the fourth quarter of last year but up versus the first quarter. So I think the point is there's not a great trend there, but I would think about the 74.5% or kind of 74.5% area for this year because that's just the thesis of us taking a conservative look at everything that we're putting on the books right now, in this year, in particular. Not seeing any reason to move things up other than just trying to be conservative where we can, as we're doing throughout the group.

[Operator:]

Thank you. And our next question comes from Matthew Carletti of JMP Securities. Your line is now open.

[Matthew Carletti:]

Thanks. Good morning. Sarah, maybe first question for you. Just you mentioned some color on the reserves and largely the lack of movement in the quarter. I was hoping you could maybe tease apart the E&S movement a little bit. I think it was pretty small. Let's call it nil overall. Were there any notable movements on one side or the other kind of core E&S versus Commercial Auto? And likewise, within Commercial Auto by accident year, was there any movement of note or was it kind of just rounding errors across the board?

[Sarah Doran:]

Yes, I appreciate the question. Thanks for asking. We know this is going to be a big focus. So clearly, we're pretty happy to come out the quarter as we were hoping at the end of last quarter with a very stable reserve in that segment in particular. I would say, there's -- they were small movements in a lot of different directions. They were not big movements on one side or the other, and one line and one year, Matt. So really it was kind of -- it netted out to the 10,000, but it was small pieces within that. Both within commercial autos and core over the years, nothing of note to report there.

[Matthew Carletti:]

And then shifting to core E&S pricing, I mean, you mentioned how the growth, because Allied Health had a really good quarter a year ago, and so you gave kind of the corresponding growth figures. Would the story on kind of top line pricing be similar, that if you excluded Allied Health, that I think it was a 3% number, would have been materially higher just because Allied Health had a head start?

[Robert Myron:]

Yes. A little bit higher, Matt, when you exclude it. Although it sort of moves from like 3% to 3.5% when you look at the rest of the divisions. I guess, a couple of things come to mind here. First, we've been getting meaningful rate increases now for six quarters, and we are up 13%, I think it was Q1 a year ago, right? So we're now getting rate increases on top of rate increases. And I think we feel really good about the rate environment overall where the pricing is with the cumulative changes that we've got in the last six quarters. And to be specific around Allied Healthcare and the like, we -- as you say, we have that difficult comparative a year ago, but in the subsequent quarters, in the rest of this year, for example, in Allied Healthcare, we don't really have that situation. So I think we're very optimistic about rate. We're very optimistic about the growth prospects in terms of percentage-wise what that can be. And the submission flow, obviously, gives us tremendous amount of optimism as well.

[Matthew Carletti:]

And then one last question if I can, just around capital. Just kind of what's your current thinking on capital and operating leverage? I mean, we've kind of shifted from what was a capital return story for many years to an environment where you're seeing some nice growth. And so just hoping you could update us on your views.

[Sarah Doran:]

Yes. Thanks for the question on that, too. I think for right now, we're very happy with having moved away from the special dividend in the third quarter of last year. We're seeing great opportunities to put our capital to work. So I think we continue with our above-peer 3% dividend yield and look to put as much of that to work as we can. I would expect that operating leverage might pick up a little bit from 1.42, we certainly have room too. But we're able to get to that 16.9% with that leverage, too. So I think it's taking advantage of all the opportunities we're seeing come over the trends and especially in E&S right now.

[Operator:]

Thank you. And our next question comes from of KBW. Your line is now open.

[Unidentified Analyst:]

Good morning. Going to the Allied Health division, was -- the drag on the growth, was it completely just a tough comparable? Or was there any non-renewal activity there or anything?

[Robert Myron:]

Well, it was a really tough comparable. That was a market that got really hard at the -- in Q1 last year and a substantial amount of flow from business come out of the admitted market. And that has sort of moderated as the year went on, I would guess, I would say, both in terms of flow and pricing and the like. So that's really the reason and the answer.

[Unidentified Analyst:]

And then overall, on core E&S, do you guys feel comfortable with where rates are versus loss trend? Or do you need another point or a couple of points to really feel comfortable or where's that at?

[Robert Myron:]

Yes. So the rates that we've gotten over the last six quarters are definitely outpacing the loss trend. I think that we -- it's a good question. We certainly do think about it that way, but I also think that we have been out seeking rate increases and achieving that for over that six-quarter period of time. So it's also just what the market dynamic is and what the market will accept from a rate increase perspective. So I guess, we're not specifically thinking about needing to get a certain rate to get over loss trend. We're thinking about optimizing the portfolio between putting non-profitable business and getting compelling rates, and so we're going to continue to do that. And I think we are optimistic that there is so much discussion in the marketplace from other carriers that are both in the E&S space and then the commercial line space as well that many lines of business, of course, excluding workers' compensation, there is a -- there's pretty strong momentum for continued price increases.

[Unidentified Analyst:]

All right, thank you very much. And for the Casualty Reinsurance, is there anything that's driving the lower accident year loss picks? It looks like it's been consistently improving over the last five months at least, if not longer.

[Robert Myron:]

Yes, that's another great question. And the biggest thing is really just mix. When we paired the book down, for example, from '17 to '18 and now into '19, we really moved from -- a fair amount of what was not renewed was non-standard auto business, which had a higher loss pick and a lower expense ratio or ceding commission associated with it. And this book going forward is almost all excess and surplus lines liability type of business, which has a lower loss pick and perhaps a slightly higher ceding commission. One thing to remember about that loss pick is that the -- a piece of the LAE expenses are included in the ceding commissions. So we don't -- we're not necessarily having to book a loss ratio that includes all of the LAE. So, but that's really the reason, it's mix. It's moving to almost entire E&S -- entirely E&S liability business and away from some other lines of business that had carried higher loss picks.

[Unidentified Analyst:]

Okay, thank you, that's helpful. And then finally, on the growing portfolio, Sarah, I know you said, it should slow down. But in terms of the growth of the portfolio, and it has been growing pretty -- at a good pace, and if that were -- happen to persist at all, would that change the trajectory of the tax rate movement as more investments come onshore at a faster pace maybe than what you guys are expecting?

[Sarah Doran:]

Yes. I don't know if the growth rate is going to necessarily impact the tax ratio -- tax rate, I think there are lot of things that play in the tax rate. The movement of assets onshore is one, but we still have the majority of our assets offshore. So I don't think that's going to cause a change to that existing trajectory, if that makes sense. Because I just wanted to make the point that our growth in operating cash flow is a down a little bit, but will continue to grow clearly, just perhaps not at the prior rates, that will impact cash invested assets.

[Operator:]

Thank you. And our next question comes from Brian Meredith of UBS. Your line is now open.

[Seth Rosenberg:]

Seth here, jumping in for Brian. Really appreciate the color on habitation. I thought the two examples are really interesting. But it's a line that you certainly heard a lot of other companies talk about as challenging. And one of the large E&S wholesale brokers kind of highlighted it as the most problematic line and particularly with apartments. Could you maybe give your perspective on why it's been a difficult line and why you feel comfortable about writing it?

[Robert Myron:]

Yes. I mean, I think we wouldn't put anything on the books without feeling like it's going to be profitable when we do. It's so -- and some of these are larger accounts, and so they're not necessarily decisions that are made based upon the individual underwriter at the desk. When they start to get larger, we start to look at individually pricing them using our actuarial staff and then involving segment leadership as well. So I think, we're looking at those really, really carefully. And I think it's an area that has -- more broadly has been written. I think the best answer I can give you, it's a high-level answer, it's been written pretty broadly by the admitted market for a reasonably significant period of time. There hasn't been a lot of rate change with respect to it. And I think you've just got meaningful loss creep there without a lot of rate change through the years. And now I think you're in a situation whereby it can't really be profitably written in the admitted market with a filed rate and form. Whereas I think we have the ability to exclude certain perils, so to speak, and obviously write it with sort of full open market flexibility on how we price that. So we feel good about those risks when we're putting them on. And so it's a typical thing that I think -- we're seeing a lot of flow here, and it doesn't seem like seeing any signs of abating. But I would just want to make sure you know that we very carefully underwrite these accounts in particular when they're larger. Sarah, is there anything you'd like to add?

[Sarah Doran:]

No, I would just emphasize the point that you made before, when you're able to -- you want to take a hard look at something when you've got 100% opportunity for 100% price increase in a tighter form or a 68% price increase, it's kind of risk than it was when it was in the admitted market to that degree right from a pricing perspective.

[Robert Myron:]

Yes, and I think we saw a similar thing and have seen a similar thing. For example, something we talked about before in the chain restaurant area, so to speak, which is -- this is business that very typically and for long periods of time had been in the admitted market. But I think the nature of the risk changed somewhat in terms of the types of claims that were occurring when a lot of the restaurants move to more drive-through business and less sort of park and walk-in type of business. And you had a lot more hot coffee spills on the lap and burns and sort of people getting hit walking through drive-through areas. So accidents in the parking lots so to speak. And that also was an area that admitted market has been challenged to write for certain accounts with filed rate and form. And we were receiving -- have received price increases per location for primary general liability policy that could be to 2 times to 3 times what the expiring price was in the admitted market. And now we've got a year's worth of claims activity underneath us, and we've renewed some of those businesses and have a good sense for how that's running and how we feel about the pricing.

[Seth Rosenberg:]

Got it. Okay, that's a really -- that's great answer. Thanks guys. And then maybe this is too simplistic, but is there a way to think about terms and conditions sort of as a renewal pricing benefit? I mean, are tighter terms and conditions sort of like an additional point of value when you think about rate versus loss trend? Or is that not a fair way to think about?

[Robert Myron:]

Well, there is -- I'm not going to be able to give an example -- perfect example, but one clear example obviously is a higher deductible or a deductible or a self-insured retention that didn't -- wasn't in place in the expiring policy and our underwriters look at from an increased limit factor perspective. Even a small deductible on a primary insurance policy can have up -- if you will translate into that what would that mean from a rate increase perspective, those are substantial, those -- having those deductibles in place to have to be able to have the insured in effect beyond, have to pay the small nuisance claims, so to speak. And so those are powerful as well; sub-limits on certain things are powerful as well. Exclusions on certain types of risks; we're just talking to our claims person the other day, excluding things like high hazard type of activities in bars, restaurants and taverns, like mechanical bull machines and axe throwing areas and things like that, just coverage restrictions that -- we have the ability to basically manuscript that, that can be really powerful. And sometimes it is difficult to translate exactly into a rate change. Probably the easiest thing, which is -- which would be done really by our underwriters is when you have a higher deductible and how that -- how you think about that from a rate perspective.

[Seth Rosenberg:]

And then I think you said, six -- quoting -- or sorry, submissions were up 68,000. How much of that business do you guys on quoting, is that -- and is that sort of limited by just your underwriting capacity or is there a lot of business that you just pass on?

[Robert Myron:]

Well, so to be clear, we got 68 -- over 68,000 new and renewal submissions in the quarter, and that was up 17% year-over-year. So that wasn't the growth number, that was the actual number of submissions. And then I think the second part of your question was around, do we have the capacity to handle that? Is that what you were getting at?

[Seth Rosenberg:]

Yes, I mean when you think about submissions, how much of that business do you guys actually go after?

[Robert Myron:]

Well, yes, so we go after a lot of it. I mean, when you look at our -- generally, when you look at our statistics, these numbers float around a little bit. But you generally end up -- in excess and surplus lines, you generally end up writing plus or minus 60% of your renewal submissions. And you generally end up quoting 30%-some odd of the new submissions that come in. And then you end up ultimately for new business, you end up ultimately writing sort of 3% to 4% of those new submissions, right? So I mean, those are kind of the statistics around it. I guess maybe the point that you're getting at is -- or maybe I should make a statement. All other things being equal, if our historical quote and hit rate stay the same, submission growth should turn into premium growth, which is perhaps where you're going with that.

[Seth Rosenberg:]

Yes, it was exactly. Okay, great guys. Thanks. Appreciate all the answers.

[Operator:]

And our next question comes from Randy Binner of B. Riley FBR. Your line is now open.

[Randy Binner:]

Good morning. So mostly asked and answered. But I guess, back to the Commercial Auto book, understanding kind of the claims discussion you've gone through and the reserves more. But from a -- I guess, from kind of like a real loss perspective and from a loss mitigation perspective, how is claims management going in that over book? There certainly was a concentration in Florida in the '16 accident year. And there was issues there. But generally speaking, I know that, that organization has called the number of drivers. They've introduced basic safety standards. I think you all have been kind of investing more on claims. And so can you kind of dimension for us how the real loss activity in those vehicles has changed over the last kind of 12 to 18 months?

[Robert Myron:]

Yes. So good question, Randy. I would say that, yes, there's been a significant number of safety initiatives implemented by the insured, and part of that is definitely working to improve the driver pool based upon driver scoring, commentary that they get from riders, accidents and so on and so forth. So they have worked to improve the driver pool and in some instance, has been calling the driver pool in certain states in a number -- in all those ways, I mentioned and more, right? So that has resulted in some decreased level of frequency of claims. And I think, the other big thing really for us is, we've talked a lot about Florida for the year, that is a tough jurisdiction in particular with certain types of liability claims, UM, UIM and the like. And there are some other jurisdictions throughout the U.S. that had some tough point bar in the legal environment with respect to that. And we are -- we don't have as many of those states anymore. And where we do, I think they're a very small percentage of the mileage. So I -- we feel like in terms of the 20 states and two territories that we have, there's a lot more stability in sort of the legal and litigation environment where we have liability claims in those states. So those are a couple of things. And then you made an allusion to something else as well in our claims staffing. Yes, this was a rapid growth -- a rapidly growing account with a rapid growth in mileage. And we still have the largest share of the mileage for UberX in the U.S. But we feel like we've got our feet on the ground in terms of claims headcount and claims resources, in terms of handling these claims well for the mileage that we've been allocated.

[Operator:]

Thank you. And that concludes our question-and-answer session for today. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Bob Myron for closing comments.

[Robert Myron:]

Thank you, operator, and thank you, everyone, for joining our call today. We look forward to talking to you again next quarter.

[Operator:]

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program, and you may all disconnect.