The Middleby Corporation
Q4 2012 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Middleby Corporation Fourth Quarter Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] With us today from management are Chairman and CEO, Mr. Selim Bassoul; and CFO, Tim FitzGerald. We will begin the call with opening comments from management, then open the call up for questions. Mr. FitzGerald, please go ahead.
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Thank you, and good morning, everybody. We have some initial comments about the company's 2012 fourth quarter results, and then we'll open the call for questions and answers. The net sales in the 2012 fourth quarter of $291.6 million increased 19.6% from $243.8 million in the fourth quarter of 2011. The fourth quarter sales reflect the impact of acquisitions completed in the past 12 months, including Drake and Armor Inox, which were acquired in the fourth quarter of 2011, Baker Thermal Solutions, Stewart Systems, and Nieco acquired in 2012. These acquisitions are not fully reflected in the prior year comparative results and accounted for approximately $27.6 million of the sales growth in the quarter. The fourth quarter results did not include the impact of the acquisition of Viking Range Corporation, as this acquisition was completed subsequent to the fiscal 2012 year end. Excluding the impact of acquisitions, sales increased 8.3% over the prior year quarter. This increase reflects the 3.9% increase in sales at our Commercial Foodservice Group and a 29.6% increase in sales at our Food Processing Group. At Commercial Foodservice Group, we continue to realize growth driven by increased sales to restaurant chains looking to upgrade equipment and adopt new technologies to improve efficiency at store operations. The sales in emerging markets also remained strong with growth of approximately 13% in Asia and Latin America. However, sales in Europe continued to decline due to challenging market conditions and impacted the overall growth at the Foodservice division by approximately 2% in the quarter. The sales at the Food Processing Group continued to realize significant growth, both domestically and internationally, reflecting demand by food processing customers looking to modernize existing production operations, and new customers developing operations in emerging markets. While we anticipate continuing sales growth as we enter 2013, this growth will likely moderate from the growth rates we saw in the second half of 2012, which included revenues related to several large customer projects. The gross profit for the fourth quarter increased to $113.2 million from $99.7 million in the prior year. The gross margin rate was 38.8% as compared to 40.9% in the prior year quarter. The gross margin rate reflects a higher mix of sales from the Food Processing segment, with comparatively lower margin. The sales at the Food Processing Equipment Group comprised approximately 27% of total sales in the quarter as compared to 17% of the sales in the prior year quarter. Within the individual segments, the Food Processing segment reported an increase in the gross margin of approximately 1.5%, increasing from 33.1% to 34.6%, reflecting improvement in operating efficiencies, offset in part by lower margins at the newly acquired companies. While the gross margin at the Commercial Foodservice segment was 41.3% as compared to 42% in the prior year, reflecting changes in the mix of product sales. In upcoming quarters, we anticipate the Food Processing business will continue to represent a comparatively higher portion of the sales due to recent acquisitions, which will continue to be reflected in the overall gross margin. However, we can expect to also see continued long-term improvement in the margins at this segment as we realize the benefit of business integration initiatives. In upcoming quarters, we also have the impact of the Viking Range acquisition, which currently has lower gross margins that will likely dilute the gross margin by approximately 1% to 2% over the next few quarters. The selling and distribution expenses during the quarter increased $2.3 million to $26.7 million. Selling expenses in the quarter included approximately $2.6 million of additional expense from the acquisitions not included in the prior year results. Excluding the incremental expense of the acquisitions, the selling costs were slightly less than the prior year due to lower costs associated with the timing of various trade shows and marketing programs. General administrative expenses declined by $2.4 million to $27.9 million. G&A expenses in the quarter included approximately $1.3 million of additional expense related to acquisitions not included in the prior year quarter. The decline in expense in the fourth quarter reflected reductions related to business integration initiative and lower stock compensation costs incurred relative to the prior year quarter. The provision for income taxes for the quarter amounted to $17.9 million at a 32.1% effective rate was compared to a prior year provision of $9.6 million at a 21.8% effective rate. The prior year fourth quarter provision reflected a nonrecurring benefit related to reserve adjustments, related to reduced state income tax exposures. While the current quarter effective rate reflects the benefit of lower taxes on earnings and foreign jurisdictions, which have increased in the past year due to the foreign acquisitions completed during 2011 favorably affecting the effective tax rate. The cash flows during the quarter. We had cash used or -- I'm sorry, cash generated by operating activities amounted to $34.7 million in the quarter and cash flows from operating activities for the year were $128.1 million. Noncash expenses added back to calculating operating cash flows amounted to $9.4 million for the quarter and were $37.7 million for the full year. During the fourth quarter, the company utilized $24.2 million to fund acquisition activities and made investments of $1.7 million related to capital expenditures from production equipment and facility enhancements. The full year acquisition funding amounted to $62.2 million and capital expenditures totaled $7.7 million. Total debt at the end of the quarter amounted to $260.1 million and was reduced by $57.2 million during the year from $317.3 million at the end of 2011. Subsequent to the year end, the company's debt increased by approximately $380 million to fund the recent acquisition of Viking Range Corporation. This acquisition and the majority of the company's borrowings are under its 5-year $1 billion revolving credit facility, which was established in August of 2012. And the borrowings under this facility are such that LIBOR plus a margin of 1.75%. Now as it relates to the Viking acquisition, we are pleased with their early-stage progress and are taking steps to reduce product and operating cost to enhance our focus on product quality and design and realize synergistic opportunities with our Commercial Foodservice business. We anticipate that we will incur restructuring and nonrecurring expenses in the first half of the year associated with business reorganization initiatives, which will result in earnings dilution in the first half of 2013. But we expect the acquisition will be accretive to earnings in the second half of the year as we realize the benefit of these initiatives. And we remain confident in our initially stated expectation that we will achieve EBITDA margins for this business in excess of 20% within a 3-year period. Moonie, that's all for the prepared commentary. Can you open up the call to questions at this time?
- Operator:
- [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Mr. Josh Chan, Robert W. Baird.
- Joshua K. Chan:
- I guess, Selim, I was curious on your thoughts about how the recent NAFEM trade show went for you. I understand that you had a lot of customer conversations. Without, I guess, naming anybody in particular, I was wondering if you can just kind of give us a feel of the customer sentiment out there.
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- Well, I would say that the NAFEM show was a huge success across the industry. I think we had more chain operators looking for solutions coming through the show. We also had, for the first time, independents coming in. And we had a large influx of international visitors come to the show. For everybody who is attending this conference call, the NAFEM show is the largest North American trade show for equipment in America. It's held every other year. And the last time it was held was 2 years ago. And there's a huge difference in the consumer confidence between this NAFEM show and 2 years ago. It was a lot more upbeat. And I think for Middleby, specifically, we really exhibited a clear strategic vision of our innovation. So if you were one of the attendant at the show, you can see that our product and services were substantially different from others already in the marketplace. We stand apart in the way we connect with our customer by providing solution to energy saving, labor reduction or speed to table. So I think if you look at that, you've seen significant innovation in our booth.
- Joshua K. Chan:
- Okay, great. And, I guess, staying with Commercial Foodservice, I know that you have certain rollouts that are being completed, and then replaced by other rollouts as you go through the year. Sort of as you look at how these sort of flow through at quarters in 2013, do you expect growth to be fairly steady for the year? Or are there any timing issues that you think are worth calling out?
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- Well, I would respond to the fact that we are working with several chains on rollouts -- on rollouts of equipment for the chains. Some of them are more breakfast chains, some of them are casual dining segment. We see several of those rollout taking place in the second half of this year. However, we have not finished yet the rollout with the casual dining chain that started a year -- almost a year ago -- over a year ago. I think this will be completed sometime during the third quarter of this year. And I think we see a lot of change coming into fill in the gap. Yes, we do see other chains coming in to fill in the gap. It's not going to be most probably one chain that will fill up the gap of that chain, but it will be several chain that will fill on the gap, yes.
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- So Josh, this is Tim. The other impact that we saw with growth this year was with Europe, being a challenge, which was difficult [ph] in the back half of the year. So kind of as we head into 2013, we'll probably see in Europe be more of a drag in the first half of the year, and as we start to overlap more challenging numbers in the back half that it will probably have less effect in the back half than the front half in Europe.
- Joshua K. Chan:
- Right. That makes sense. And I guess, Tim, looking at -- in terms of the gross margin decline year-over-year, you said it was mix and acquisitions. So of the approximate 200 basis points or so of difference, could you sort of ballpark the relative impact of mix and acquisitions? Is there a way to think about that?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- What -- I tried to lay out in the comments there, it's probably -- in the Food Processing, actually, we had an increase in the gross margin there by about 1.5 percentage. So while Commercial Foodservice was down slightly because of the mix within that segment in and of itself. So really, given kind of the dynamic there, it's largely the mix between the 2 segments that drove the margins, the fact that we've gone from 17% of the net sales being Food Processing to 27%. So that's largely the GAAP year-over-year sort of a mix impact.
- Joshua K. Chan:
- Okay. I see. And then finally, just an administrative question. So in the first quarter, you probably will have some meaningful, I guess, purchase accounting impact from Viking. Is that something that you plan to call out? Or would those be just incorporated into the way that you report?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Yes, I mean -- well, definitely, you're right. We will have kind of an impact both for typically amortization related to intangibles and transaction costs are higher in that first quarter as well as we're likely to have some nonrecurring-type benefits related to business reorganization. So we -- at this point, those amounts are still being determined. But we'll -- in the first quarter, when we report, we'll highlight what those amounts are in the impact of the quarter.
- Operator:
- Next we have Mr. Tony Brenner, Roth Capital Partners.
- Anton Brenner:
- Two things. Middleby has had the SPINFRESH fryer and waterless steamers in test applications for over a year. And I'm wondering what the prognosis is for those 2 products. Are they being rolled out commercially? Or are they ready to make a meaningful contribution to sales in 2013?
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- Tony, I would have to answer that. Those 2 products are being tested extensively. One of those products is a waterless steamer is rolling out with a major customer chain this year. So it should be on its way as a major rollout. We expect those 2 products to have meaningful, meaningful impact to our sales growth in the next, I would say 24 to 36 months. As I've always told our shareholders and our customers, it takes between 18 to 24 months to seat a game-changing product in our industry. People need to test it, they need to train people, they need to validate the data and the SPINFRESH frier has been out I think now around 18 months, and it's been well received. We are still working with several chains who are testing it. The waterless steamer has been out for around a little bit longer than 14 months, and it is being rolled out in 2013 with a major chain. Now in addition, we have a lot more innovation just those two. I can talk about our Kitchen of the Future, which is being tested with several. We have our 32nd toaster, which is also being tested right now in 5 store location at the practice chain. We have our induction waterless steam table that's being tested and rolling out this year with a major chain too. So I can talk about many, many products coming out, including our combi ovens. We have a brand-new line of combi ovens out in the marketplace that just got launched, with water-saving features.
- Anton Brenner:
- Okay. And the other question I had was regarding your entrance into the consumer market, following the Viking acquisition. You referred at that time to other products that could be retrofitted for consumer use from TurboChef, from MagiKitch'n and maybe other lines. So I'm wondering if you can -- what progress you're making, what the timing of those products are and whether they'll be domestic or -- just domestic or international, and what we might be looking for in that direction.
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- Tony, we are introducing a slew of new products for Viking, and those will be both introduced for our domestic and international markets. They will be introduced within the next 9 months. And they are game changers. Some of those are organic products that Viking is working on right now, and we've had several of the dealers come in and visit Viking in the last 2 weeks. And they had a chance to see a preview of those, and the response was unanimously overwhelmingly positive.
- Anton Brenner:
- What is an organic product?
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- We are also going to integrate some innovation as I've always spoke in synergies from our other divisions, including induction, including TurboChef speed cooking, including some Jade technology that they have been working on their own with residential. So in the next 9 months, there will be a slew of game-changing products coming out from Viking.
- Anton Brenner:
- Great. Tim, do you have a tax rate projection for 2013? Would it be similar to the 31% of last year?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Well, I think we're probably looking in the 33% to 35% range, with some onetime benefits earned through the tax provision this year related to some state exposure reductions. And then we also have more of our recent acquisitions being domestic in nature that they carry a higher effective rate, so that will probably push it up a little bit from what we saw this year.
- Operator:
- Next we have Mr. Jamie Clement from Sidoti & Company.
- James Clement:
- Selim, it seems like a lot of the restaurant chains that have reported recently have harped a lot on labor costs, referring to potential healthcare cost increases and that kind of thing. With respect to your new product -- first of all, I mean, is that, as customers talk to you and say, "Hey, Selim, you need to help me with XYZ." Are labor cost and productivity within the kitchen, is that becoming increasingly an issue from your point of view?
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- I would tell you, Jamie, what customers are telling us, mostly, in the casual dining segment. In the casual dining segment, they see a significant pressure on what I call the lunch menu and the ability to compete effectively against the fast casual chains. So it's not specifically on only about labor. They are looking about how do I do -- how do I build trade-offs and add-on items to build my average check and be able to provide what I call a value -- price value proposition and impact the consumer perception. So those are coming up in 3 things, and we have many, many casual dining chains now coming to us and working with us on trying to find the following
- James Clement:
- Are menu changes a part of that as well? I know you didn't specifically allude to that in your answer. But is that another piece of the equation?
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- Yes, mostly what I'd call trade up or add-in items. It's not a complete overhaul of the menu. We haven't come to have somebody to come to us and say, "You know this menu that has 30 items? I want to change it completely and go from being a chicken and a burger house to becoming a seafood house." What we're saying is they are coming to us saying, "Can I increase menu items without adding complexity in the kitchen or adding labor and be able to provide what I call trade-up or add-on items that give me the price value proposition to compete effectively at lunch?"
- James Clement:
- Okay. And Tim, if I could ask you just one question about Viking. I think you addressed the gross margin impact. But in bridging the gap between Middleby's existing EBITDA margin and what Viking has, as it joined Middleby, below the gross profit line, should we see more in the G&A line considering most of our equipment is sold through dealers or -- what are those numbers going to look like over the next couple of quarters with respect to Viking?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Well, the -- the...
- James Clement:
- Where is -- like the discrepancy between what Viking brings versus what you have? Where -- is there going to be a disproportionate increase in 1 of those 2 lines?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- I would say there's an impact in both lines, both the gross margin and the SG&A line. So I mean, our operating margins are around -- or roughly approaching 20%. And there's a greater than 10% gap, so -- from an EBITDA standpoint. And then you get the noncash charges, which we've yet to kind of layer on and disclose because we're going through the valuation. But I would say as you're kind of thinking about a 10% plus gap that's probably 1/2 driven at the gross margin level and 1/2 at the SG&A level.
- James Clement:
- Okay. It does. But in like the 2 line items of SG&A. Are Viking selling expenses as a result of going more through third parties? Are they lower as a percentage of revenue than Middleby's existing? Or are they roughly comparable? Maybe I'm not asking the question clearly enough, like in other words, like...
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Yes, I would say they're roughly comparable.
- Operator:
- Next we have Mr. Jamie Sullivan, RBC Capital Markets.
- Jamie Sullivan:
- So as you talked a lot about some interesting products and themes in Commercial Foodservice. I'm just trying to think about kind of adding it all up. Do these trends accelerate the organic growth as we look at '13? Do they sort of sustain the kind of -- the 5% range? Just wondering how we should think about that.
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- I think those trends most probably continue the same trend as 2012. I think that as you see where we've been, we've had a fantastic run, Jamie. We've had significant rollouts like the Chili's rollout. We've had also on the Food Processing, significant increase in pent-up demand. And what you're seeing right now in 2013 would be most probably a similar pattern as 2012. So it would continue filling up the gap of not falling off when you have a rollout such as the one that you've had with Chili's. That will most probably end up in the third quarter of this year. And what you've done a great job is filling up replacing that rollout with other rollouts that would fill in the gap. So I think 2012 was a superb year. 2013 will continue being on the top line very similar, and I think we can continue expecting better improvement on the margins coming through the Food Processing platform. And now that we have Viking, Viking is most probably going to be our biggest nut to crack, as we grab our hands around that new platform. So I think that as you look at the Food Processing and you look at Foodservice, it will most probably continue being in the similar trend as we've seen before, where the biggest wildcard is going to be the residential platform as we continue introducing new products, as we continue looking at the cost structure and we continue looking at the gap. As Tim mentioned in just the previous question, between the cap of over 10% of EBITDA margin between our existing business and the residential platform of Viking.
- Jamie Sullivan:
- That's really helpful. And then, I guess, on Viking, just wondering what kind of growth rates are they sort of experiencing today absent some of those new initiatives you talked about? And then is there any color you can give on some of the synergies now that the deal's been done? Is there any more details you can give on sort of footprint consolidation, plants, purchasing, savings, any of those areas? And sort of when we might look for some of the major milestones with the integration?
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- Jamie, I would say that we've done a lot of action items. As you could see publicly, we've let almost 180 people go. That was substantial savings. But -- and I'm sure there is a hit -- a one-time hit of severance, because we were very generous with severance. We wanted to make sure that we take care of people as we exited. Those were great people, but literally, wanted to become more efficient. So it will most probably be hit in a severance package of severance cost in the first quarter of 2013. It will be a one-time. And we will then get the benefit of the reduction-in-force as we move forward, because it's a permanent reduction. Number two, I think that as we continue tweaking the distribution channels and we introduce new products, a lot of people are sitting on the sideline as we introduce the new product. So many of the dealers are waiting to see the new products unveiled, and I think we're going to most probably see somewhat of a reduction in top line, while we basically introduce the new products. We want people to buy our new products. We don't want them to get an experience of an older platform. So we've alerted our dealers, we've alerted our distributors that a slew of new products are coming in. So I would say we'll have a somewhat flat-ish to maybe slightly down sales volume in the first 6 to 8 months until we launch a new product. And as I mentioned earlier, they are game changers. And we've had nothing but phenomenal kudos from our dealers who already, some of the dealers who visited our factory back in Greenwood, Mississippi, and had a chance to preview some of those game-changing products. Now in terms of synergies, I think we've had some pursing [ph] savings that you're going to see coming through this year, whether it's still buying, pursing [ph] or other type of purchasing through the levers of Middleby. So I think there's going to be some cost initiative that will allow us to start moving the EBITDA closer to where we need to be. I would like to give, again, what I've always said with the purchase of Viking. I said Viking is not an immediate turnaround. We never bought Viking to turn around within 1 year. We set up a plan that within 3 years, we hope to bridge the gap of the EBITDA of less than 10% to where Middleby is, around 20%. We think we can achieve that within 3 years. So from a long-term perspective, by the end of 3 years, we should be at a running rate of where Middleby should be at Viking. In addition to a growth -- top line growth that will be a lot more faster in the next 3 years, as we introduced the new products, as we take them internationally. So just to remind you, I would like to go back and give some numbers. Viking used to be a $400 million top line company prior to the recession. I think we can get some of those numbers within 3, 3.5 years. And at an EBITDA closer to 20% of what Middleby should be, within 3 to 3.5 years.
- Operator:
- Next we have Mr. Schon Williams, BB&T Capital Markets.
- Christopher Schon Williams:
- I guess, I wanted to circle back on some earlier commentary. You talked a little bit about growth in the first half of the year, maybe decelerating a bit from what we've seen in the back half of 2012. And I wanted to just clarify what your comments were. Are you saying that, essentially, total top line growth -- or are we talking about just organic? Maybe we could just clarify your comments there.
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Yes, we were just talking about organic. Obviously, with Viking, there would be -- the acquisition growth will be very strong in the top line. So it's organic growth, and it's primarily related to Food Processing, because we grew roughly with 30% growth for Food Processing in the top line in the back half of the year. So, I guess, the comment there is that -- while we expect Food Processing will continue to grow solidly, 30% organically is -- we don't view as sustainable, so we think that's going to moderate as we head into the first part of next year.
- Christopher Schon Williams:
- Okay. And then -- and maybe just as a follow-up. On the Commercial Foodservice side, I mean, obviously, significantly outpacing your competitors in 2012 here on an organic basis. I mean, is that a single-digit organic growth? Is that still the right way to think about that Commercial Foodservice business as we move into 2013?
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- I think, yes, I would like to say that's the way to look at the organic -- is we continue -- we'll continue outpacing our competitors. I think the biggest challenge we have -- literally, the biggest challenge we face, Schon, was we just came up with a new huge rollout with Brinker, and which that rollout is ending this year. So our biggest challenge was how do you sell that, so it's not a onetime upswing, and then you go back to normal. And what our team has done across the segments, across the Food Processing -- Foodservice segment has been to fill in that basically $30 million order that came from Brinker over 18 months. So we're able to fill up enough rollout to basically continue at that same rate. Now the biggest challenge we've seen on our customers is the fact that -- I'll have to be honest. There is one risk. The weather has most probably impacted in the first 2 months of this year some of our customers. Now it does not impact the pizza chain, which continues to impact in a weather like this, they benefit -- deliver pizza instead of driving around in snow and slush or whatever. But what happened in New England was the storm. What happened now in the Midwest was facing one of the toughest storm in years. I think impacts our customers. So I think that's -- I am a little bit nervous about the weather impacting some of our casual dining customers as they face some slowdown as people stay at home with storms, where they cannot drive. And I think that's most probably the only wildcard I see for our casual dining customers is the weather. Because we have unusual weather here in the United States, both in New England and the Midwest in the first 2 months of this year.
- Christopher Schon Williams:
- Well, let me follow-up into those comments. I mean, typically Q1 would seasonally be very strong for Middleby on the Commercial Foodservice side. I mean, should we expect -- and could Q1 be in a more flattish, given some of the impact from the weather? Or is that -- am I being too -- is that -- is flattish a bit too dramatic?
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- No, I would say that's too dramatic. Needless to say, sitting here in February, talking about a quarter that still has a full March impact to come through. But I would say, so far, we haven't been dramatically impacted. But we're still in the middle of it. In my opinion, we're still in the middle of the fourth quarter. It's not like we -- we don't have visibility to backlog. We shipped, basically our -- most of our orders are shipped within a week or 2. So it's not like we have a backlog. Now we can talk about Food Processing, which continues to be very solid. But on the Foodservice side, we've had 2 good months so far. So I don't want to send the alarm that the weather has impacted. We've had 2 good months at foodservice, but I still I am worried like everybody else that our customer got impacted by significant weather deterrent. And we still have 1 month to ago, so, so far, if nothing happens, we should have a very solid first quarter. But I am keeping my fingers crossed for March. So, so far, January, February has been good, so we still have March to go. And like all of us, I want to basically let everybody know that the weather has impacted our customers. So at least [indiscernible] part of our business. Would you like to add something else?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- I just kind of want to back it up, which is your initial question, which is kind of the trends going into the year. I mean, I think we see that being fairly consistent with last year. I mean, from quarter-to-quarter, there could be things from timing, weather or chain rollouts that can push growth rates a little bit higher or lower in one quarter versus the other. But I think from a bigger picture going into next year, I mean, the same trends that we saw coming into last year are there this year with growth in emerging markets, chain customers adopting our new technology. I mean, Europe's a challenge but it will probably lessen in the back half of the year, as Selim mentioned about the Chili's rollout, but we have other chains coming out. So I think, altogether, things are very consistent with what we saw in 2012 as we go into the year.
- Christopher Schon Williams:
- All right. That's helpful. And maybe one last question, if I may. I was at the NAFEM show as well and had a chance to talk to some of your competitors. And it looks like one of your competitors, it looks like they're kind of aggressively going after with -- going after the -- your TurboChef unit with a very similar product there. And I'm sure that's certainly not the first time you've seen competitors pop up with copycat products, but I'm just wondering how do you address competitors that pop up from time to time with very similar products? And what do you view as your advantages in the market? And then what does that traditionally do to pricing in the market? I mean, it would -- should we expect maybe -- could we actually see pricing come off because of a disruptive competitor? Or does that tend to -- does that tend to even out over time? Maybe just your general thoughts there.
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- Schon, I would like to address that. I think we respect every innovation. I think that, that's what keeps America going. That's what keeps our industry going. I'll be honest with you. We love having competitors to TurboChef, because TurboChef already has other competitors, but it opens up the need to look at speed cooking. When we bought TurboChef, we always thought that the TurboChef market could be easily a $200 million to $300 million market. Today, TurboChef is around $100 million company. I would say that we welcome. It opens up the need for people to look at speed cooking, being the largest -- we love people going in and looking at speed cooking. I think instead of being the only people trailblazing, it helps us trailblaze. And I think at the end, people would have to compare. Now TurboChef has other competitors worldwide. They have companies like Medichef, they have company like Amana. They have other companies, but what is unique about TurboChef is not only the fact that they have a consistent base of $100 million. Uniqueness is a fact that part of Middleby, a customer gets the following
- Operator:
- Next we have Mr. Greg Halter, Great Lakes Review.
- Gregory W. Halter:
- Obviously, you've made a few acquisitions here. Wondered if you could provide the inventory and receivables figures? Or what the attributes -- acquisitions added to inventory and receivables?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Sorry, Greg. I think I didn't have that at my fingertips. So the -- the amount of receivables at year end was $6.7 million, and inventories were $23 million [ph].
- Gregory W. Halter:
- Great. And what kind of impact did foreign exchange have on your top line?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- It had very minimal impact. There was currencies that were going different ways, which netted out to not much of an impact in the fourth quarter.
- Gregory W. Halter:
- All right. And there was a -- about I think a $2 million swing between other income and other expense. Can you explain the change there?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Yes. Well, it's all foreign exchange gains and losses. Most of it, it's unrealized, so that's really just kind of a function of working capital levels and where exchange rates move. So we hedged some of it, which kind of naturally offsets the P&L, but there's always some pieces that are -- we don't hedge that roll through. And just given the fact that we've expanded our foreign operations pretty significantly over the last couple of years, we've had some bigger swings running through that line.
- Gregory W. Halter:
- All right. And you commented about the international business. Any company -- countries you can call out that would either be good or bad in the most recent quarter?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Countries that will be good or bad, I'm sorry, from what perspective?
- Gregory W. Halter:
- In terms of top line performance, sorry.
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Well, I just think Europe kind of as a whole, so a lot of Continental Europe as you're looking in countries such as Italy, Spain, Greece, those will be a challenging -- challenging markets.
- Gregory W. Halter:
- And anything in Asia or Latin America that you want to call out that's doing especially well?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Well, I would say we're doing generally well, really, across the sector. Brazil is a market that we've really have opened up this year. I mean, that's -- it's [Audio Gap] as a market generally. And then I think our penetration in that market was -- are kind of opening and expanding our office there. That's kind of one of the faster-growing segments in Latin America. And then, obviously, China is a growing market for us, I mean, that's a -- the largest market that we have in Asia and that continues to do well.
- Gregory W. Halter:
- And Selim, you were talking about pizza ovens oven before, and it seems like there could be a replacement cycle out there. Just wondering if you could speak to that, and where we may stand in that cycle, given the labor challenges of the pizza shops.
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- Well, I can tell you, you hit on a very fantastic note. Pizza chains are doing fabulously. If you look at Papa John's, Pizza Hut, Domino's, they are doing fantastic. Their same-store sales are up and doing very, very well. And the other interesting part is the fact that they are all looking at ways to introduce more toppings, more side items. And I think that we're seeing our pizza chain business growing very fast. In addition the pizza chain still is a growth story overseas. Domino's, Papa John's, Pizza Hut and others, local pizza chains are opening up stores all over the world. Russia, India, Middle East, China, Latin America. So we see that the pizza chains continue to be very good. We're also seeing most probably the last year or 1.5 years, a huge migration from the old oven that takes 8 hours -- 8 minutes to cook or 8.5 minutes to cook a pizza to going below 5 minutes or even below 4. So we're seeing a significant pent-up demand for our new oven. The other interesting more important than laborsaving is the fact that we have basically energy savings and speed of cooking. So if you look at -- and better bake. So as we introduce new ovens that have better bake like WOW! 2, we'll have a fantastic new belt on it, and we're seeing significant interest about the WOW! 2 or WOW! 3 with the new belt. And I think that we're seeing a huge pent-up demand on pizza chains, yes. And this is high-margin for us and -- because literally, it's the only piece of equipment in that restaurant. If it fails, they have nothing. Not like casual dining. "Okay, my convection oven failed, I will use the oven underneath my range or I will stir fry, or I will most probably use the griddle or charbroiler. In a pizza chain, the conveyor oven is the only thing. The Middleby Marshall oven is the only oven there. If they fail, they have no pizza to serve. So in many ways, it's been fantastic. And I think we see the pent-up demand in the pizza business to accelerate very, very fast. There is roughly 100,000 Middleby Marshall old oven out in the marketplace. And we're seeing that most probably coming in literally at a 5% a year -- coming in at 5% replacement a year, which is listing the Middleby Marshall business strongly.
- Gregory W. Halter:
- Okay. And you obviously, talked about TurboChef already. I just saw something the other day about SUBWAY possibly going from 30,000 to 100,000 units, so between now and 2030. And I presume that would be helpful, given all the different products that the -- Middleby products within each SUBWAY.
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- Yes, our relationship with SUBWAY has been fantastic. I think from baking the bread on premise and baking -- toasting their ovens on our TurboChef, it's been a fantastic relationship. I think that we just basically introduced a new platform for them with the TurboChef, a new TurboChef platform that reduces energy usage on the TurboChef and increases speed, so it's been a fantastic relationship. So we continue benefiting from the growth of Subway. We are also benefiting from other chains that have adopted the TurboChef, whether it's Starbucks or Dunkin' Donuts and others. We've seen some significant growth within the TurboChef. We're seeing -- also, the interesting part is TurboChef seems to be getting [Audio Gap] But I could tell you the CookTek platform is something we haven't spoken much about it. CookTek is also growing very fast in its induction platform. We know we have a rollout with a major fine Asian chain, one of the largest in the world, is rolling out a complete induction platform, ventless, no water or waterless. We are also seeing CookTek being generated in many other places, including casual dining places, where they are using induction to do scratch cooking. So it's been fantastic. We had some great technologies going there. I think our Kitchen of the Future, which is a CTX Carter Hoffman WOW! combination is being tested by also other casual dining chain. So we are very excited about those. I think our platform in the frying platform, whether it's PerfectFry, SPINFRESH, and LOV, Low Oil Volume fryer is also gaining traction in many places, so we're very excited about all the innovation, not only within TurboChef but Kitchen of the Future, induction, with CookTek, the frying platform, ventless. I think Wells ventless is recording double-digit in nontraditional outlets, both in United States and overseas, so we seem to be very excited on those innovation. And the previous analyst who was visiting -- you were visiting NAFEM. You had a chance to see all the innovation in our booth. It's amazing. We were packed. We had every chain operator almost that was visiting the show that spent hours in our booth looking at all the innovation we had. And you saw the size of our booth with all innovation we had. So we are very excited about the future of our product execution from our engineering and our innovation standpoint.
- Gregory W. Halter:
- All right. That sounds good. And Tim, one last one for you. With Viking, what would you envision your capital spending on a combined basis for 2013 to to come in at?
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- For the overall company, I mean, we've typically indicated 2% or less. And I think that would still be our expectation. 2% of revenue that is for 2013. So I think we'll still be in that.
- Operator:
- Ladies and gentlemen, that is all the time we have today for questions. I'll turn it now back to management for closing remarks. Gentlemen?
- Selim A. Bassoul:
- So I would like to summarize where we go from here. I think there are 3 items that literally sets us apart
- Timothy J. FitzGerald:
- Okay. Well, thank you everybody for attending today's call. And we look forward to speaking with you next quarter.
- Operator:
- Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your time and attendance. This conference has now concluded. Please enjoy the remainder of your afternoon.
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