CareCloud, Inc.
Q1 2018 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Good day, and welcome to the MTBC First Quarter 2018 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Shruti Patel, General Counsel. Please go ahead.
- Shruti Patel:
- Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the MTBC 2018 First Quarter Conference Call. On today’s call are Mahmud Haq, our Founder and Executive Chairman; Stephen Snyder, our Chief Executive Officer and a Director; A. Hadi Chaudhry, our President; and Bill Korn, our Chief Financial Officer. Before we begin, I would like to remind you that certain statements made during this conference call are forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933 as amended, and Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 as amended. All statements, other than statements of historical fact, made during this conference call are forward-looking statements, including without limitation statements regarding our expectations and guidance for future financial and operational performance, expected growth, business outlook and potential organic growth and acquisitions including any discussion regarding the details in closing Orion and other acquisition opportunities. Forward-looking statements may sometimes be identified with words such as will, may, expect, plan, anticipate, upcoming, believe, estimate, or similar terminology and the negative of these terms. Forward-looking statements are not promises or guarantees of future performance and are subject to a variety of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated in these forward-looking statements. These statements reflect our opinions only as of the date of this presentation and we undertake no obligation to revise these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. Please refer to our press release and our reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, where you will find a more comprehensive discussion of our performance and factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Finally, on today’s call we may refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to today’s press release announcing our first quarter 2018 results for a reconciliation of these non-GAAP performance measures to our GAAP financial results. With that said, I will now turn the call over to the Chief Executive Officer of MTBC, Stephen Snyder. Steve.
- Stephen Snyder:
- Thank you, Shruti and thank you everyone for joining us on our first quarter earnings call. 2017 was a record year for MTBC and we are pleased to report continued momentum as we start 2018. During the first quarter of this year, we achieved another important profitability milestone, as we reported our first quarter of positive GAAP net income since our IPO in 2014. We are generating positive cash from operations and our balance sheet has never been stronger with virtually no debt, $13 million in cash as of the end of April and an untapped credit line of $5 million. If you have been follow in the MTBC story since our IPO, then you know a few things about us. First, you realize that the Management team and Board together of almost half our common stock. So you can be assured there is a profound alignment of interest between our leadership and our shareholders. Second you know that we have been committed to building a world-class platform, systems and teams to support our growth. And third, we have been consistently focus on the grown opportunity that we see for using our technology, proprietary processes and unique business model to identifying close accretive acquisitions. Since the beginning of 2014, we have purchased the assets of more than a dozen companies, rising to become the leading consolidator in the healthcare revenue cycle management sector. We believe, the opportunity to identify and close accretive acquisitions is more compelling now than it’s ever been. As background, for those who are newer to the MTBC story. Let me provide a quick recap of our largest acquisitions today MediGain, which we closed during the fourth quarter of 2016. MediGain like MTBC recognize the opportunity for a consolidation play in the revenue cycle management space and began to acquired other revenue cycle management companies. However, unlike MTBC, MediGain lack the comprehensive proprietary technology platform. They lack best practices hone over 15 years of operation and they lack an experience management team. During the year and half before we acquired MediGain’s customer contracts, MediGain in fact lost more than half of their customers and those who remained were candidly unhappy with MediGain’s performance. Not only was MediGain revenue collapsing, it’s business model was unprofitable and it was burning roughly one quarter million dollars or more of cash during each month. While we are realistic about the challenges facing MediGain, when we acquired its assets we still believe that its best days were yet to come, if we could empower its team with additional resources and strategically deploy our technology and processes. Of course the chapters that unfolded since we purchased MediGain have proven that our vision was achievable. Not only were we able to turn the satisfied MediGain customers into enthusiastic promoters of our solution. We also on boarded talented new team members for MediGain who are now some of the leaders within our organization and we turned MediGain's losses into profits for our investors reporting record performance on all fronts during 2017. With that backdrop, we now find ourselves with a strong balance sheet as we talked about earlier. Virtually no debt, $13 million in cash and an untapped $5 million credit line with Silicon Valley Bank and in addition, we have new opportunities to pursue. Let's talk about one of these opportunities which we call Orion. Orion refers to Orion Health Corp Inc., and 13 of its affiliated companies. Earlier this month, we entered into an agreement to purchase substantially all of Orion's assets through a bankruptcy sale called a 363 subject to Court approval and a bidding process with the target closing date sort of the latter part of next month. The underlying dynamics of Orion we believe are very similar to those we encountered with MediGain. However, Orion's revenues could be two to three times larger than MediGain's revenues were at the time we closed that acquisitions and we see an even greater potential upside with Orion. Not only would Orion as a transaction significantly increased our revenues, after closing it would likely expand our service offerings to include long-term practice management services as an offering, niche hospital solutions and a pharmaceutical Group Purchasing Organization that provides discounts to its physician customers. These new offerings and these new customer relationships present compelling opportunities for cross-selling our solutions and driving new growth. In addition to Orion, we are exploring various other potential acquisition targets with our available capital and our proven track record, we expect acquisitions to play a key role in our growth during this year. During 2017, our investors will recall that we grew our revenues by a remarkable 30% year-over-year. As a Management team this year we are committed to exceeding last year's revenue growth rate, and we believe are well-positioned to achieve this objective. In fact, it's our vision to increase our annualized revenues to $70 million by the end of 2018, more than doubling our annualized revenues on a year-over-year run rate basis as we execute on our broader acquisition and organic growth plans. Naturally the closing organic rather closing Orion as we presently expect on the present terms will be an important part in helping us achieve this objective and of course we can't make any guarantees regarding that closing, but we expect another continued year of exciting growth during 2018. And we look forward to providing additional updates as we move forward. I will now turn the floor over to our President, A. Hadi Chaudhry. Hadi.
- Hadi Chaudhry:
- Thank you, Steve and thank everyone for joining us on our first quarter 2018 call. I would like to focus on the role that our technology is playing and helping us achieve our objective. First, with regard to our next-generation electronic health records called talkEHR. We have introduced a voice recognition based intelligent virtual assistant. It uses artificial intelligence engines and algorithms to support decision making, answer and take appropriate actions automatically. TalkEHR is already changing the way that our physician clients factors medicine and intelligent virtual assistant raising the bar even further. Second, during the last quarter we increasingly leveraged our technology strength to further reduce operating costs and uniquely address the needs of our clients. Especially, our growing portfolio of larger independent and hospital base growth. As background, larger medical groups are often using multiple platforms that are not integrated. Since these platforms generally do not communicate with each other, there is redundancy, inefficiency and leakage, which in turn leads to unnecessary costs and significant revenue loss. Some of these customers leverage our platform end-to-end. For others, we have been able to develop customized applications, which are bridging the gaps between these disintegrated systems and helping us drive increased revenues and reduce costs. This capability is a key competitive advantage and allows us to add value to accounts acquired in transactions like MediGain and Orion. And third, our team is continuing to develop the next generation of solutions to support health information exchange between our clients and other medical providers. We are employing blockchain technology, which will allow other EHRs to connect without block chain network to share protected health information in a highly efficient and securing manner. Starting with Medication history by the end of this quarter. We are on the leading edge of exploring uses for technology, for blockchain technology and expect to be able to add value to our users, long before our competition is in the position to do so. I will now turn the floor over to our Chief Financial Officer, Bill Korn. Bill.
- Bill Korn:
- Thank you, Hadi. First quarter of 2018 was a remarkable quarter for MTBC. We are reporting quarter-over-quarter revenue growth even though across our industry, the first quarter is typically materially lower than other quarters due to seasonality. Most of our revenues are percentage of the payment receive by our clients, which are cyclically lower in Q1 due to annual deductibles. We are also very pleased to report our first quarter of positive GAAP net income since the IPO an increased of $2.8 million from Q1 2017 together with adjusted EBITDA for the first quarter of almost $1 million. Revenues for the first quarter 2018 were $8.3 million, compared to $8.2 million in the same period last year. MTBC’s revenue includes revenue from clients who signed contract with MTBC during fourth quarter 2017 and began generating revenue during the first quarter of 2018. Our revenues for 2018 is based on the new ASC 606 revenue recognition standard which did not have a material impact on reported revenue. MTBC adopted the new revenue recognition standard on January 1, 2018. Under the old standard revenue could not be recognized until it was fixed to determinable which met that MTBC recognized revenue at the same time insurance agreed upon the level of payments to our healthcare provider clients. Under the new standard revenue is recognized as value is created for clients, which means a portion of the revenue is recognized over a period of weeks after each patient visit as work is performed and the final amount of revenue based on the ultimate payments by insurers and patients is trued up each quarter. During the first quarter of 2018 MTBC recognized $47,000 of additional revenue due to the new revenue recognition standard, but since our revenue is recurring ,the impact of the new standard is not at all material. Our first quarter 2018 GAAP net income was $75,000 or 0.9% of revenue, an improvement of $2.8 million compared with a net loss of $2.7 million in the first quarter of 2017. This was MTBC's first quarter with positive GAAP net income since our IPO and the purchase of three companies at the time of the IPO in 2014. First quarter GAAP net income includes $591,000 of non-cash amortization and depreciation expenses, so our operations generated positive cash flow of over $600,000 for the quarter. The dramatic turnaround from a GAAP net loss of $2.7 million to GAAP net income of $75,000 was due to four factors. First, a reduction of $739,000 or 14% in direct operating costs. Second, a $385,000 or 13% reduction in general and administrative expenses. Third, a $929,000 reduction in depreciation and amortization expenses as the intangible assets associated with some prior acquisitions was fully amortized and finally, the elimination of $276,000 of restructuring charges while compared with the first quarter of 2017. First quarter of 2017 included restructuring charges as we closed offices in Poland and Bangalore India that were obtained during prior acquisitions and shifted the work to our teams in Pakistan and Sri Lanka to gain operating efficiencies. The impact of the new revenue standard on our net income was $51,000, just a few dollars more than the impact on our revenue. So our net income would have been positive even without the new revenue recognition standard. There is a table at the back of our earnings release which compares first quarter results under the old and new standard for anyone who is interested. Our GAAP net loss per share for the first quarter 2018 was $0.06 per share calculated using the net loss attributable to common shareholders divided by the weighted average number of common shares outstanding. Overall, GAAP net income is always calculated before the effects of any dividend. The dramatic turnaround from a GAAP net loss of $2.7 million to GAAP net income of positive $75000 was due to four factors. First, A reduction of $739,000 or 14% in direct operating costs. Second, $385,000 or 13% reduction in general, and administrative expenses. Third, $929,000 reduction in depreciation and amortization expenses as we fully amortized the intangible assets from the companies that we bought in 2014 and fourth the elimination of $276,000 of restructuring charges. First quarter 2017 included restructuring charges as we closed offices in Poland and Bangalore, India that were obtained during previous acquisitions and shifted the work to our teams in Pakistan and Sri Lanka to gain operating efficiencies. There were no restructuring charges in first quarter of this year. The impact of the new revenue recognition standard on our net income was $51,000, just a few dollars more than the impact on our revenue. So, our net income would have been positive even without the new revenue recognition standard. We have included a table in the back of our earnings release comparing our first quarter as if we had used the old revenue recognition standard, so anyone is interested to see the details. Our GAAP net loss per share for first quarter of 2018 was $0.06 per share, calculated using the net loss attributable to common shareholders divided by the weighted average number of common shares outstanding. GAAP net income is always calculated before the effect of any dividend, but GAAP net income or loss per share is always based on the net income or loss attributable to common shareholders, which subtracts the value of dividends paid to our preferred shareholders. That's why there is a GAAP net loss per share, even though overall GAAP net income is positive. Adjusted EBITDA for first quarter of 2018 was $974,000 or 11.7% of revenue compared to adjusted EBITDA of negative $313,000 or negative 3.8% of revenue in the same period last year. First quarter 2018 adjusted EBITDA represents an improvement of $1.3 million from the same period last year, reflecting the significant cost savings we have achieved. This is our third consecutive quarter of positive adjusted EBITDA, which is totaled $3.1 million over the last nine months. The difference of $899,000 between adjusted EBITDA and the GAAP net income in first quarter of 2018 reflects $591,000 of non-cash amortization and depreciation expenses $69,000 of net interest expense, $128,000 of stock-based compensation expense and $179,000 of integration and transaction costs associated with prior acquisitions as well as $47,000 provision for income taxes. Our non-GAAP adjusted net income for first quarter of 2018 was $666,000 an improvement of $1.5 million compared to adjusted net income of negative $852,000 in the same period last year. Non-GAAP adjusted net income per share is positive $0.06, calculated using the end of period common shares outstanding. First quarter of 2018 GAAP operating income was positive $39,000, which represents an improvement of $2.4 million from the operating loss in the first quarter of 2017. This is the Company’s first quarter with positive GAAP operating income since the IPO in 2014. Non-GAAP adjusted operating income for first quarter was $739,000, or 8.9% of revenue. First quarter of 2018 adjusted operating income represents an improvement of $1.3 million from first quarter of 2017. This is our fourth consecutive quarter of positive non-GAAP adjusted operating income, which excludes non-cash expenses such as the amortization of purchased intangible assets, stock-based compensation and integration and transaction costs. In first quarter of 2018, our cash flow from operations was $673,000. Management finds that non-GAAP financial measures, such as adjusted operating income and adjusted EBTIDA, are a good proxy for measuring the cash actually generated by our business. As of March 31, 2018, the Company had $3.5 million in cash and positive working capital of approximately $5.4 million. The Company has a $5 million secured revolving credit facility with Silicon Valley Bank where borrowings are based on 200% of repeatable revenue adjusted by an annualized attrition rate as defined in the agreement. While we have not drawn under Silicon Valley credit facility at any time during 2018, the SVB line can be used to fund future growth initiatives, including acquisitions with Silicon Valley Bank’s approval. The Company raised net proceeds of $9.4 million from the sale of 420,000 additional shares of its non-convertible series A preferred stock via a public offering during the first week of April. Preferred shares trade on the Nasdaq Capital Market under the ticker MTBCP and pay monthly cash dividends at the rate of 11% per annum. Our series A preferred stock is perpetual and has no mandatory redemption although the Company can choose to redeem shares at $25 per share starting in November 2020. By the end of April, after this round was closed the Company had approximately $13 million of cash in the bank and virtually no debt. Raising additional capital in early April has further positioned us to take advantage of the opportunities we see for consolidation in the market. For example, we intend to use a portion of our available cash if we close the Orion acquisition opportunity. Our highly scalable proprietary technology and processes, experienced team and a strong balance sheet have made us the leading consolidator in our space. We are uniquely equipped to succeed with opportunities such as Orion having successfully integrated MediGain business which face the similar situation before we purchased their assets 20 months ago. That transaction allowed MTBC to grow revenues by 30% in 2017, and achieve record profitability and after a successful integration of Orion, we expect to be able to grow our annualized revenue significantly more and to achieve a scale which will allow us to further expand our profit margins. I will now turn the floor over to Mahmud Haq, our Executive Chairman for his concluding comments.
- Mahmud Haq:
- Thank you, Bill. We have had a remarkable start of the year following record performance in 2017, and we believe that 2018 is likely to reflect that all. In Europe traction we have gain on acquisition front since our last earnings call and the additional cash raised in our recent offering of preferred stock, we are pleased to share our vision of growing our annualized revenues to $70 million by the end of this year. We thank our investors, customers, employees for their continued support and look forward to providing additional update as the year progresses. We will now open the call for question. Operator.
- Operator:
- Thank you, we will now begin the question-and-answer session [Operator Instructions] And the first question will come from Kevin Dede of HCW. Please go ahead.
- Kevin Dede:
- Good morning gentlemen, thanks for taking the call. Steve, I'm just curious whether or not you have dealt with the purchase, I mean given your storied history of acquisitions I'm just wondering if you have dealt with the purchase in a similar matter is the one that it seems Orion is teeing up to be?
- Stephen Snyder:
- Thanks Kevin for the question. Really Orion in virtually ever respect is like MediGain, so when we think about the Orion scenario the opportunity and also the challenges, frankly it's a very similar acquisition in virtually ever respect that MediGain and again we look at the MediGain opportunity that we have pursued in the end of 2016. We think about the challenges that we approached on day one, the team that we put together, the way we used technology to add value to those relationships, then we look at the outcome, which was the some of the record performance of last year and we are very encouraged and optimistic that Orion will be much like MediGain, an opportunity for us to again achieve another level of scale and add value to these relationships and then by extension add value to our shareholders and stakeholders. And Kevin, just like MediGain will…
- Kevin Dede:
- I apologize Steve. I listened very carefully to your opening remarks, I meant the auction construct?
- Stephen Snyder:
- Understood, so for sure. So, if we talk again about MediGain, MediGain initially was going to go through a 363 construct which candidly all things being equal as a buyer, we would prefer the auction construct of 363 like Orion to the MediGain strict foreclosure. For variety of reasons MediGain proceeded along the lines of a strict foreclosure, because of timing and other internal constraints they had. So in terms of 363, it’s really candidly another way of accomplishing the same thing. The 363 actually has some advantages though from the perspective of the buyer in terms of further mitigating risk and also ensuring that as the assets are transferred over the account in this scenario, that they are transferred over with a Court order that provides that they have been assigned by the seller and assumed by MTBC. The sort of luxury that you actually don't have MediGain type transaction.
- Kevin Dede:
- Okay and I guess what seems curious from the external perspective, given that it's open auction that you might not have the opportunity to close it. I’m just kind of wondering how you look at that, what your confidence level is and why?
- Stephen Snyder:
- You are 100% right. As with any of the bankruptcy sales, 363 being an example, there is the opportunity for another bidder to come in, and in fact with regard to - we understand with regard to this particular opportunity Orion, there is something like 15 or 16 companies who have already looked at the opportunity and at least at this point in time, up to this point in time have passed or at least haven't submitted a bid that’s as high as ours. And when we look at it, our thought is the opportunity in Orion is such that fewer financial buyers really won't have the technology platform or the team that they need to succeed in our opinion. And if we think about others who may from a strategic perspective have an interest in it. Probably most of those strategic buyers wouldn’t have a capital they need or candidly the experience of doing a transaction like MediGain. So we have a high level of confidence that at the end of the day, we are going to proceed to closing, but you are 100% right that there aren’t any guarantees. The process by its very nature is open to other bidders who could come in and could submit a bid.
- Kevin Dede:
- Is there any way to sort of quantify your confidence level on your ability to get the deal done and the timing? I think you alluded to the end of June.
- Stephen Snyder:
- Sure. Yes in terms of the timing, the debtors of Orion, they vast the Court to enter an order that would provide for a sale to occur the end of June, during the last week of June and when we look at it based upon all the information we know and based upon our discussions with our outside counsel who focus really focus on the bankruptcy matters exclusively, our confidence level is certainly higher than 50%. Of course, we can’t provide a guarantee that it will occur, but we have a high level of confidence. To the extent, of course it doesn’t occur, where the stocky horse was bidder, another bid, who comes in, we not only have to get comfortable with the transaction, we not only have to, have the available capital of course the technology, the team, the experience to be able to creditably move forward. But we would also have to do so pretty quickly in submitting a bid, that bid was not only have to be higher than ours by a certain dollar amount. But in addition to that would also have to include, if they were to out bid us roughly 600,000, which is the total of the fee that we would be paid as a break-up fee together with the expense reimbursement.
- Kevin Dede:
- Okay, thank you. Now, you also spoke to a pretty aggressive sales started this year. So I’m wondering, what your pipeline looks and what that pipeline looks like on the acquisition side, since it doesn’t seem that organic growth could get you there. And why you are so confident that even should this yield not work out, you could still approach that figure, which is what almost 2X from last year?
- Stephen Snyder:
- Kevin, much like prior years. The overwhelming majority of our growth this year will come from acquisitions much like last year and years before. That’s really where we see the opportunity at a very attractive multiple and cost per acquired customer to be able to grow and to achieve the scale that we are looking to achieve and the timeframe, we are looking to achieve it. So the majority of the growth will continue to come through acquisitions. We are and have been since the year began looking at other acquisition targets. This is candidly the most attractive and certainly the furthest along of all those opportunities and when we talk $70 million run rate by the end of the year again that’s premised upon closing Orion. To the extent that Orion doesn’t happen, no one should expect us to get a $70 million run rate. We would nevertheless in that scenario continue to be moving forward in discussions with other companies from an acquisition perspective and would expect by the end of the year would be our vision to close other acquisitions and nevertheless grow from a revenue perspective at a higher rate this year than last year. But it wouldn’t be at that $70 million level. Again, that’s really premised upon I belief that we are more likely to not going to be able to close the Orion transactions on terms that are similar to those that we envision today.
- Kevin Dede:
- Fair enough. Okay yes, thank you for clarifying Steve. One question for Hadi, if I may, please.
- Hadi Chaudhry:
- Go ahead Kevin.
- Kevin Dede:
- Hadi do you referenced blockchain application and tying together talk to talkEHR and health records, if I understood correctly. I'm just wondering what your software construct would be in that implementation and why you would choose sort of a decentralized view versus sort of a more centralized database construct?
- Hadi Chaudhry:
- Thank you Kevin. So let me explain from the - one is the EHR part of it which we are continuously focusing on using and leveraging the artificial intelligence and the integrated database and improve the usage or making it easier for the user to continue using the HER. We also have added the voice recognition technology as well as have introduced more like you can say a virtual employee in your office, so you can keep talking to your EHR and it can keep on taking the decision using the AI making the appropriate actions in the EHR updating the patient records and responding back to the user as well. From the blockchain perspective, the purpose of the blockchain is connecting and interacting with other EHRs in the industry. Few years back after when the different health information exchanges start coming up, so one way of communicating and talking to between different EHR was with the use of those health information exchanges. So if there is a physician A who has seen the patients and there is a physician B which could be a specialist wants to look at the patient’s health record of the same patient, for the physician A there is no good mechanism that existed between the two EHRs. So one we will continue to use the health information exchanges or using the certified method to communicate or share that patient’s health records. So as this blockchain technology is starting to get evolved further and there is a high probability of getting some of these pieces get regularized in the healthcare industry and because it has its own built in due to the design of this blockchain technology, there is strict more secure, you can say the more secure data interchange and any other EHR ranger can connect to the same chain of those blocks and can share the data. So the purpose of leveraging this blockchain technology is so we will be able to share their health of protected health information for any specific patients between the different EHRs. And as we further evolve, this thing we expect in the industry that it will be - the same blockchain can be used to share the prescription details, the lab details and so and so on. So as far as the integrated database, that still stays there, every application that we have is currently connecting and operating from the same integrated database that we have.
- Kevin Dede:
- Okay, can you be more specific regarding the platform that you hope to leverage. Are you thinking about using [indiscernible], what is your thinking on that and then how do you ensure HIPPA Compliance?
- Hadi Chaudhry:
- Okay. So few things, I may not specifically talk about which type of the blockchain, but when it comes to as I mentioned earlier there is high probability of some of these pieces to get regularized in the healthcare industry, but the standard HIPPA Compliance, you can say the requirements, those are being considered or we are making sure that those are being implemented. So one thing is, as I mentioned the security, the built-in design, the inherent design of the blockchain that by default is much secure than any other system out there in the industry right now, but we absolutely will be making sure that all the relevant and the specific HIPPA Compliance requirements are being met.
- Kevin Dede:
- Okay. Thank you very much Hadi for the color, I appreciate it. Thank you gentlemen for taking my questions.
- Hadi Chaudhry:
- Thank you.
- Stephen Snyder:
- Thanks Kevin.
- Operator:
- The next question will be from Brian Marckx of Zacks Investment Research. Please go ahead.
- Brian Marckx:
- Good morning guys and congratulations on the quarter. Just trying to get a little bit more clarity on what your thoughts are in terms of organic growth, you made a comment that Q1 is typically seasonally low for the RCM industry. Can we interpret that to mean that just based on organic growth that you may see sequential growth through the remainder of 2018?
- Bill Korn:
- Thanks Brian. Q1 was up in large measure due to organic growth. We signed a number of clients during the fourth quarter of last year, in particular a business which is now our largest client, a physical therapy rehabilitation practice with 950 providers. They were signed two days before Thanksgiving, they went live beginning of December, and we got a full three months of revenue from them, in the first quarter of this year. And that was all organic. Large clients obviously are hard to predict, so I can’t tell you when we are going to sign another one that’s the same size, but we have had a number of new clients that have signed up that are in the process of going live. So, we expect that we will continue to get organic growth. It’s not going to let us double our revenue, in a recurring business like ours, no one would spend enough on sales and marketing to generate that many clients organically especially when you can do so far more across effectively on an inorganic or acquisition basis, but we continue to be growing our organic sales efforts and adding new clients on a regular basis.
- Brian Marckx:
- Bill in terms of the sales team, I think one of your potential strategies on the organic side anyway was to potentially build out the sales team and sales and infrastructure, is that still potentially in the plans in 2018?
- Stephen Snyder:
- Absolutely hi there, this is Steve. For sure, we are continuing to build out our sales team and as Bill said, we had a large closing towards the end of last year, it really had some successes during the first quarter of this year as well, continue to gaining traction. We have also added as an advisor from a marketing perspective the former CEO, and the founder of Practice Fusion, Ryan Howard, who join our team and is providing strategic support and guidance as we rollout our talkEHR product. So his input has been in valuable. We are continuing also to add other sales team members and candidly as a result of the Orion transaction that we hope to close, we hope to on-board additional experienced team members as part of that acquisition. Also some of additional lines of business that would come with that acquisition, we think will also be really helpful as we continue to focus on our organic growth strategy during the second half of this year. For instance, one of the business units that we would acquire as part of Orion is a Group Purchasing Organization, which negotiates discounts with pharmaceutical companies on the one end and extend the discounts to universe that healthcare providers on the other end of the transaction and receives a fee essentially as a middle person negotiating that discounted rate. Work with roughly 4,000 we understand 4,000 healthcare providers mostly pediatricians, who again, we think would be phenomenal candidates for cross-selling, our revenue cycle management in EHR solution into that Group Purchasing Organization. And then vice versa, we have entire client based that could benefit from sort of GPO solution. So we see these sorts of synergies whether it be in Orion transaction or with other partnerships that we are pursuing.
- Brian Marckx:
- And in terms of the integration assuming Orion closes. Based on the fact that you will be bringing on additional capabilities like the GPO that you referenced? Are those functions that can be done out of your overseas operations?
- Stephen Snyder:
- We will be on-boarding the team that is presently working with Orion and then adding additional resources, whether it would be onshore resources, the team members we have throughout the U.S. and offshore team members and using our talent globally to really be able to take those solutions to the next level. So for instance, if you think about the Group Purchasing Organization the GPO. They already have a phenomenal team managing that business unit, but we believe, we will be able to add sales resources and marketing capabilities and alike.
- Brian Marckx:
- Great. Thank you guys.
- Stephen Snyder:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- The next question will be from Amit Tandon of SeeThruEquity. Please go ahead.
- Amit Tandon:
- Congratulation on reaching a positive GAAP net income guys. You have showing real improvements in your direct operating costs, which obviously allows some margin expansion. My question is, is this mostly from integration synergy that were implemented over the last year or some other important moves that enable the improvement?
- Bill Korn:
- Thanks Amit. So it’s really two things that are responsible. One is integration synergies, if you think about the day that we close a major transactions like MediGain, they have a team, that’s providing work, a combination of employees and in MediGain case, there were five different sub-contract firms. And so day one, we added more employees to our Pakistan and Sri-Lanka office and started moving work away from the subcontractors, who were both more expensive than our own resources and who the client felt weren’t doing as good job. So we were able to do that. That’s been the first low handing fruit of an integration. There were leases, we were able to get out of expensive leases again in all these transactions, we typically don’t assume these trends in long-term liabilities that we can use the space for a couple of months as needed, move people to a smaller and less expensive space so there has been a variety of cost savings there. But if you think about it, when you are small public company it's hard to generate positive net income because you have got all the fixed expenses of being public, you grow your revenue, you get to spread that overhead over a bigger base. I think about us doubling our revenue again, we're not going to need another CEO, we're not going to need another CFO, we're not going to need another [grant thought] (Ph) and so as a result a lot of those gross margin will be able to drop completely to the bottom net income line.
- Amit Tandon:
- Great and so can you also give us a sense of the scope of the potential integration process with Orion, are u going to double up on the work, or obviously going to save on the work already done with respect to kind of prior acquisitions like MediGain?
- Bill Korn:
- So it's a combination. It's our understanding that the they've got 500 individuals as offshore subcontractors. Again, we think about it and say if those people can provide the greatest service at a cost effective rate, then those subcontractors are good people to keep, but we've got team members with 10 to 15 years experience who candidly maybe able to do a better job and so we will probably be adding to our team. Again, just as we did with MediGain providing the best possible service to other clients is first and foremost and so we will probably double up a little resources to do a good job to get people's confidence right after the transaction. And again, then as you see a couple of our quarters go by and you see both the ability to reduce leases and to cross-sell services, you will start to see pretty significant improvements in the net bottom line.
- Amit Tandon:
- Okay, great. Thanks for taking my questions.
- Operator:
- And ladies and gentlemen that will conclude our question-and-answer session. I would like to hand the conference back to Shruti Patel for any closing remarks.
- Shruti Patel:
- Thank you so much. Thank you everybody for joining our first quarter conference call and we hope you all have a great day.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen the conference has concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.
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