Minerva Neurosciences, Inc.
Q1 2020 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Welcome to the Minerva Neurosciences First Quarter 2020 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a question-and-answer session, following today's prepared remarks. This call is being webcast live on the Investors section of Minerva's website at, ir.minervaneurosciences.com. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded.I would now like to turn the conference over to William Boni, Vice President of Investor Relations and Corporate Communications at Minerva. Please proceed.
- William Boni:
- Good morning. A press release with the company's first quarter 2020 financial results and business highlights became available at 7
- Remy Luthringer:
- Thank you, Bill, and good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining us. I hope everyone is doing well. Today, I will focus on Minerva's two advanced clinical stage products roluperidone which is in a pivotal Phase 3 trial and seltorexant which has completed Phase 2b testing. For roluperidone, we are rapidly approaching the company's key event for 2020. The readout of top line results expected this quarter from our Phase 3 trial with this compound to treat negative symptoms in schizophrenia. For seltorexant, we are evaluating along with our partner Janssen Pharmaceutica, a number of protocols for Phase 3 trials.I will begin with roluperidone. The Phase 3 trial is a randomized double-blind parallel-group placebo-controlled 12-week study to evaluate the efficacy and safety of 32-milligram and 64-milligram doses of roluperidone, as measured by the Positive and Negative Syndrome Scale. The primary endpoint is a Marder negative symptoms factor score. Secondary endpoints include the personal and social performance scale and clinical global impression of severity.As we announced last February, a total of 515 patients have been enrolled in this trial at clinical sites in the U.S. and Europe. The patients have been randomized 1
- Geoff Race:
- Thank you Remy. Earlier this morning, we issued a press release summarizing our operating results for the first quarter ended March 31, 2020. A more detailed discussion of our results may be found in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed with the SEC earlier today.Cash, cash equivalents restricted cash and marketable securities as of March 31, 2020 were approximately $37.6 million, compared to $46 million as of December 31, 2019. We presently expect that the company's existing cash and cash equivalents will be sufficient to meet its anticipated capital requirements for at least the next 12 months from today and into mid late 2021 based on our current operating plan. The assumptions upon which this estimate is based are routinely evaluated and may be subject to change.Research and development expenses were $8.1 million in the first quarter of 2020, compared to $11.6 million in the first quarter of 2019. The decrease in R&D expenses primarily reflects lower development expenses for the Phase 3 clinical trial of roluperidone and the Phase 2b clinical trial of MIN-117. R&D expenses are expected to decrease during 2020 with the completion of the Phase 2b trial of MIN-117 and the 12-week double-blind portion of the Phase 3 clinical trial of roluperidone.General and administrative expenses were $4.2 million in the first quarter of 2020, compared to $4.7 million in the first quarter of 2019. This decrease in G&A expenses was primarily due to a decrease in non-cash stock-based compensation expenses and the decrease in professional fees. Net loss was $12.2 million for the first quarter of 2020 or a loss per share of $0.31 basic and diluted, compared to a net loss of $15.8 million for the first quarter of 2019 or a loss per share of $0.41 basic and diluted.Now I'd like to turn the call over to the operator for any questions. Operator?
- Operator:
- Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Jason Butler with JMP Securities. Your line is now open.
- Jason Butler:
- Hi. Thanks for taking the questions. Rémy, I know you talked about this before, but with the data for roluperidone fast approaching, just wondering if you could remind us of the baseline characteristics you've seen in the Phase III trial on a blinded basis versus what you had in the Phase II trial. And then give us an update on what you've seen again on a blinded basis in terms of positive symptom relapse? Thanks.
- Remy Luthringer:
- Hello Jason, hello everybody. So clearly, I mean as you know the – what we had in the Phase IIb was for negative symptoms around 25 points at baseline. And it is true that I mean, we are monitoring obviously the Phase III completely blinded by merging together all the patients who enter the study. And I have to say that we are ending up with exactly the same entry score in terms of negative symptoms which is obviously a great news.And I can even give you a little bit more granularity, telling you that I mean what we see over the first 12 weeks during the double-blind phase in terms of the behavior and the dynamic of the negative score is really overlapping between the two studies the Phase IIb and the Phase III.Now concerning the relapses. There is again one point which is a debate about what is a relapse. But I mean what I can tell you is that, comparing again the Phase IIb and the Phase III the level of relapses we can see is limited and is in line between the two studies.
- Jason Butler:
- Great. And then just one more for me. Can you just speak a little bit to where you are in your commercial preparations? And what your goals are to achieve throughout this year as you ramp towards a potential launch next year?
- Remy Luthringer:
- So maybe I can give this over to Rick. So Rick can you say some words for this question?
- Rick Russell:
- Yes sure. So Jason, good morning. So a couple of things there, so first of all you may recall we've already signed a commercial supply agreement with Catalent. So we'll obviously continue the work to be ready to have commercial supply available at launch. We've also received conditional approval from FDA for a trade name. We haven't released that yet. We will sometime in the future.Once the data reads out positive, we'll enter more kind of formal dialogue with potential co-promote partners. There's a number of companies that already have established relationships within psychiatry here in the U.S. market. So I think we're quite interested to reach out and talk to some of those folks and see if we can essentially align with someone that has an existing infrastructure and do a co-promote with someone like that.
- Jason Butler:
- Thanks for taking the question. And looking forward to the data.
- Rick Russell:
- Thank you, Jason
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joel Beatty with Citi.
- Joel Beatty:
- Hi, thanks for taking the question. The first one is on data integrity. There had been an issue that came up around late last year. So I guess just to confirm for the 362 patients that have completed the double blind study have you reviewed that you'll have data on all those patients?
- Remy Luthringer:
- Joel, yes -- clearly no impact on data integrity as I explained in one of the previous calls, this mostly impacted the speed we could screen and include patients in the study of randomized patients in the study, but because we took all the precautions from the beginning to have for example two aliquots of blood samples on site.One send it -- to be analyzed centrally and one kept on site. I mean, we really did not experience any impact about what happened a few months ago here. So, clearly very clearly all these 362 patients can be fully analyzed. And maybe one word about COVID because I guess this is also a very hot topic also no impact of COVID as we mentioned regularly over the past.
- Joel Beatty:
- Terrific. And I guess a question given that there's two dosing arms could you remind us of the stats plan?
- Remy Luthringer:
- This is a great question. So first of all, I mean one interesting point is that even if it is not requested we shared our statistical analysis plan with the FDA yes? And we received a feedback which already confirmed the way we would like to analyze the data. We will analyze the data because it's not becoming clear reality, but the statistical analysis plan is ITT. We're using them MMRM approach and it is corrected for type one error with the Hochberg correction.So basically what it means is that as a primary endpoint you're first doing the comparison between placebo and the highest dose of 64-milligram. If you're hitting the P values 5% significance you can do the analysis of the second dose with the same 5% value for P. And if not, you have to divide by two the P-value for the second dose.And basically this means that, I mean it's no longer P0.05 but it will be P0.025 in order to claim that 32-milligram is significant.So, this is a strategy, which by the way was the same we used in the Phase 2b, yes, because as you remember the Phase 2b has been analyzed like a registrational study.
- Joel Beatty:
- Got it. Yes, that makes sense. Maybe one last question on seltorexant. It sounds like you've had discussions with FDA on that program going ahead. If it does could you tell us about how the costs would be split for the next part of development?
- Remy Luthringer:
- I guess I give this over to Geoff. So, Geoff, can you answer this question please?
- Geoff Race:
- Sure. Yes. The agreement is very clear in terms of each party's responsibilities with regard to funding the Phase 3 part of the program. Back in 2016 we were required to amend the agreement that we have with Janssen as a result of European Commission intervention in connection with the European insomnia market and the Actelion transaction which J&J was seeking to get approval for at that time.But basically the amendment to the agreement requires Minerva to cover the full cost of the Insomnia Phase 3 program. J&J will give a $40 million contribution to the Phase 3 insomnia program. And then on the other side, on the MDD program, we split the costs 40% Minerva and 60% J&J.
- Joel Beatty:
- Great. Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Biren Amin with Jefferies. Your line is now open.
- Biren Amin:
- Yes, hi guys. Thanks for taking my questions. So, Remy, in the press release, it seems that you have a 30% dropout rate. Is that how we should think about patients that have completed a trial versus enrolled?And whether -- how does this number compare to what your assumptions were for the trial design? And I guess were there any imbalances across the three arms in terms of dropout rate?
- Remy Luthringer:
- So, the last question I cannot answer because the study is blinded. But first one the first part I can answer, yes. So, the assumptions if you remember were 40% dropout over the first 12 weeks in the double-blind phase and we ended up with 30% dropout which if you remember is really in line with what we had in the Phase 2b, yes basically. So, I think this is good news yes because we have less dropout than what we had in our powering assumptions.
- Biren Amin:
- Okay. And then on the patients that completed the open label, I think you have 92 patients that have completed the open-label extension. Can you tell us anything about these patients when they came into the open-label versus when they exited? Are you able to look at that data given its open-label data to see what the changes or benefits were in terms of negative symptoms in these patients?
- Remy Luthringer:
- Yes. Sure. So, -- but just keep in mind that I mean the patients who have been on 32-milligram will stay on 32-milligrams patients on 64 will stay on 64. And if placebo patients are going into the open label, there are randomized to as one of the two doses. So, we don't know today what is a dose that patients have, yes. I mean -- but we know that they have no placebo but we don't know which dose they have in terms of roluperidone.But yes, indeed obviously ,we are following these patients as you know, the primary objective of this extension is to tick the box of 100 patients exposed to the drug for one year. So, this is really the safety aspect, but this is what you have to do to take the box to go for the NDA or to go to the FDA.So, I think this is really extremely good news because we have still a lot of patients going on and we have already 92 have completed. So, I think we are really in good shape for ticking this box now.We're obviously following these patients in terms of safety and efficacy and without having as much details as for the double blind phase, I think that the things are behaving in terms of efficacy like it was in the Phase 2b as well. So, far so good, yes and very reassuring.
- Biren Amin:
- Okay. And then maybe a question on seltorexant. What are the key gating items starting the Phase 3? And do you anticipate start of Phase 3 this year?
- Remy Luthringer:
- So, obviously, we recently had this end of phase meeting with our colleagues from Johnson & Johnson. And we got several feedbacks. So, this meeting was obviously really concentrating or focusing on the MDD indication where I mean the key question was to know if these patients who are responding better with insomnia as primary population.So, this is I think not really clarified what was also a point of discussion without going more into the details was how do you quantify in some as subjectively only subjectively or -- and objectively, and all this has been clarified.So, we -- as we speak these protocols have -- are adopted and finalized. And the feasibilities are going on. But as we know with the COVID pandemic the feasibilities are more complicated. So we are working on it. And as soon as we are ready, we will give you more details. But so this is what is currently ongoing, but a little bit slower than expected due to the COVID pandemic.
- Biren Amin:
- Okay. And then maybe just the last question. What are your thoughts on R&D expenses once the Phase III finishes?
- Remy Luthringer:
- As you know I have a lot of ideas, yes and I think the good news is that I mean, if I mean, we have positive data with roluperidone, we have really a lot of things we can do inside the schizophrenia indication. And as you know, because negative symptoms are really -- this transdiagnostic symptomatology you will retrieve in several different disorders in the space of psychiatry and even urology, we will obviously work on all this. So as of today, we have put together the perfect word and we end up with I think too many studies. So we are currently discussing internally, taking also advice from some of our carriers of what would be the priorities to studies to do after top line results.So stay a little bit with us. We are brainstorming. We are coming up with the best way moving forward. But I mean at minimum, we have two or three very exciting studies we have in mind, which I think will first of all cover highly unmet medical needs and that will create a lot of value yes. So this is what you have in mind. And beyond the roluperidone, I think we have also a plan in place in order to move forward, obviously to work on the seltorexant program, but also to move forward the other molecules in our pipeline. So a lot to come. But again, work in progress, but I think we have a lot of clarity now just priorities to be made.
- Biren Amin:
- Great. Thank you.
- Remy Luthringer:
- You're most welcome.
- Operator:
- Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Myles Minter with William Blair. Your line is now open.
- Myles Minter:
- Hi, guys. Congrats and thanks for taking for the questions. Just Rémy, last time we talked just over a month ago, you may have mentioned that COVID-19 not going to impact the top line data, but potentially the open-label portion. I'm wondering have you got any more clarity into the types of delays we may or may not expect there. And if there are -- are these U.S. sites specifically, or are these broadened across the entire global nature of that trial? I've got a follow-up after that. Thanks.
- Remy Luthringer:
- Yes, Myles, so I guess, what I said is that for the moment, we have no impact on the extension due to COVID. But obviously, I cannot predict what will happen moving forward, yes. But as of the end of last month end of April, we had no impact of COVID on the extension. So -- which is good news. And I think we really put in place we have been extremely reactive and I have to say that I mean the guidelines coming out from the FDA and EMA has helped a lot. But we have been extremely reactive with our CRO and with the sites to really implement that all what is possible in order to continue the exploration in terms of safety and efficacy for -- efficacy evaluation sorry for the patients.As you remember, I think we also discussed about the fact that we have -- in each country, we have enough drug in the country. So this will not have an impact to bring the drug to each patient that was in the extension and to each side obviously. So, so far so good. We continue to monitor. We are very interactive. We obviously are using the -- again the possibilities given by the EMA and FDA guidelines about for example remote monitoring these kind of things. But again, today we have no impact as we speak.Sorry as the last point about U.S. So last point about U.S., sorry, I forgot this one. Remember that I mean U.S. started before the European sites. And clearly, I mean, we have really a limited number of U.S. patients was still in the extension. So I think we will not have any problem in the U.S. with the extension as well. So definitely, I mean, no impact in the U.S. for the moment.
- Myles Minter:
- So it would be fair to say that the 92 patients that have completed that extension phase a significant proportion of them are indeed U.S. patients?
- Remy Luthringer:
- It's a mix. But I mean, clearly, the first one we have completed the 12 months sorry, yes, definitely were coming from the U.S., indeed, yes.
- Myles Minter:
- Okay. Cool. And then just on seltorexant. Curious in the press release you may have mentioned that you're chasing this adjunctive MDD indication comorbid with insomnia, but you didn't mention about the insomnia program alone. So I'm wondering whether or not MDD is taking the priority here. Obviously, Janssen plays a large part in that. And then obviously with MDD trials placebo responses are crucial to the outcomes of those trials, I'm wondering whether the placebo response rates in patients that are comorbid with insomnia different to those without. And whether that's related to like background medications like zolpidem and things like that that these patients may be taking coming into that potential trial? Cheers.
- Remy Luthringer:
- Great questions like always. So, clearly I think, the two indications are part of our objectives to move forward. But I mean the insomnia data I mean in patients without any comorbidities, we are so clear. But I mean, this is a straightforward process. I mean clearly remember, we had really a very nice data in adults and in elderly and we were better than the standard of cares and zolpidem yes and the tolerability profile was excellent. So, here I mean, it's a quite easy path forward yes I mean, no really big surprise.Why it was a little bit more tricky? Obviously was in the MDD indication because clearly, when you have a complaint of insomnia and MDD, clearly, I mean the response is much better. There is no doubt about it. This is data-driven. There is no doubt about it. I mean, these patients are responding better. And when you're looking to the rate of response and the delta between treatment and placebo, I mean this becomes really very, very significant and very, very meaningful.So, I do not want to say clinically meaningful because I don't know, if this is clinically meaningful, but at minimum these patients are doing much, much better as when they have insomnia and MDD yes. So, this is the reason why it took a little bit longer to think about all this.Now in terms of placebo response, I have no -- I have not the final answer to your question because I think we did not best of my knowledge maybe my colleagues in R&D did it and we'll be happy to report if I mean it has been done later. But I don't have any notion of having a different placebo response. As you know, placebo response is how you select patients and how you run your trial, but I have no good knowledge about is a difference.But what is clear is that, when you're looking again to the difference we have seen between treatment and placebo if the patients have insomnia in addition to their MDD disorder, there is no doubt that I mean we have a real drag effect here. So, I'm very confident that moving forward, we will not really struggle with the placebo effect.What is important, I think to mention and this is a much more general comment and -- which is going beyond seltorexant is that I think with the current ongoing pandemic, I think the patients suffering from MDD have probably not the same phenotype than what we have seen before the pandemic and I think we have to think hard about what will happen after the pandemic yes because, as you know people are losing their job, people are stressed, people are more anxious.People -- so I think this is something we have to reconsider when we are running again discussion trials. So -- but this is maybe another debate a more general debate. But I think we are really considering this. Because I think it becomes important and maybe and this is just expectation the insomnia parameter will be even more important here to considering.
- Myles Minter:
- That’s fair. Thanks for the questions.
- Remy Luthringer:
- You are welcome.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Douglas Tsao with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is now open.
- Douglas Tsao:
- Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Just quickly, in terms of -- how long do you think -- or once you get the 100 patients which just seems imminent in the extension, how quickly can -- would you be in position to file the NDA for roluperidone just given the timing of the readout for Phase III? Thank you.
- Remy Luthringer:
- Doug, this -- as you know I mean it's not ethical to stop any patient if he stays into the trial until the end of the 12 months. So, basically the -- if I mean some of these last patients who have completed the double-blind phase ended into the extension, so if these patients are staying in the 12 -- nine months, following the double-blind phase to tick the box of 12 months, I mean they will go to the end. And so the extension data we will get -- how many we will get? Probably we'll get much more than the 100 we need to tick the box about safety, but the extension has to be completed. So this will happen beginning of next year as end of first quarter or so. So clearly we cannot change this.But so what we will do as you know and this is now becoming more and more common is that the FDA is really very open to have this kind of pre-NDA meeting yes. And we are exchanging on a regular base with the FDA. And when we have the topline results, we will obviously share this with the FDA, discuss it with the FDA. And my colleague, Jay Saoud, who is in charge of R&D has really worked a lot and we have a lot of outputs in addition to the primary and secondary endpoint in order to really understand fully understand the data. So, we will digest all this hopefully based on positive data and we will start to work with the FDA. But again, we need to go to the end of the extension to have a complete packages for the NDA.
- Douglas Tsao:
- Okay. Great. Thank you.
- Remy Luthringer:
- Welcome.
- Operator:
- Thank you. This concludes today's question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call back to Remy Luthringer for closing remarks.
- Remy Luthringer:
- Yes. Thank you so much. So thank you everybody for listening to our earnings call. It is obviously a very important moment for the company. We are very close now to the readout of a lot of work, a lot of hope for patients and hopefully a lot of value creation for our shareholders. So, I am really looking forward to update you very, very soon about our Phase III results. Thank you all and have a very nice day.
- Operator:
- Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's presentation. Thank you once again for your participation. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.
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