Oil-Dri Corporation of America
Q2 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

Published: 12 Mar 2021

[Operator:]

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Oil-Dri Corporation of America Second Quarter 2021 Investor Teleconference. As a reminder, today’s program may be recorded. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s program, Dan Jaffee, President and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

[Dan Jaffee:]

Thank you and welcome everyone to the second quarter and six months Oil-Dri investor teleconference. We are still in a virtual environment, so our usual cast of characters will be on the call, but we are all in different places or most of us are anyway. Susan Kreh, CFO; Molly VandenHeuvel, our COO; Jessica Moskowitz, Vice President and General Manager of the Consumer Products Division; Fred Kao, our VP of Global Sales for Amlan International; Laura Scheland, our VP and General Counsel; and Leslie Garber, our Manager of Investor Relations, are all on hand today. And Leslie, please walk us through the Safe Harbor.

[Leslie Garber:]

Thank you, Dan. Welcome everyone. On today’s call, comments may contain forward-looking statements regarding the company’s performance in future periods. Actual results in those periods may materially differ. In our press release and in our SEC filings, we highlight a number of important risk factors, trends and uncertainties that may affect our future performance. We ask that you review and consider those factors in evaluating the company’s comments and in evaluating any investment in Oil-Dri stock. Thank you for joining us. Dan?

[Dan Jaffee:]

Yes. Thanks, Leslie. And before I turn it over to Susan for a play-by-play, I would like to add some color to what’s been going on and we have really had a lot of positives on both sides of our major business opportunities, both the retail and the B2B. As you guys know, I took over as General Manager of Amlan International, right around November 1 and we have made some really, really good changes together. It’s been a complete team effort cross-functionally. We brought in some new players. I can distill it to people, poultry, clay, and target markets. And let me start with the people. I mean, Fred and I, Fred Kao, who is our Global VP of Sales, have worked really hard at building our team. And Fred joining Oil-Dri was an initial badge of validation for the incredible opportunity we have because he has had a 20 plus year very successful career. He has made great contacts and people took notice when he joined the company. And so we have been in the enviable position of being able to attract a lot of talent quickly as these people first got to know Oil-Dri through Fred, but then spend a lot of time with Molly and and our team out at the research center, getting to get comfortable with our data that they knew had to have existed, because they knew Fred was joining us for a reason. And it’s because this global vacuum that’s been created by the elimination of antibiotics in the food chain has created an incredible market opportunity for Oil-Dri. So, just in this short period of time since November 1, we have been able to onboard Heath Wessels, who is covering all North America for us; Jay Hughes, who is our Americas tech service; Harold Zhou, who is covering APAC; and then Dr. Wade Robey, who is our Vice President of Marketing and Product Development, who has had a stellar career in the animal health. We have put out news releases on this, so I encourage our investors, if you miss them to track them down. You can just search Amlan and you will find our latest news releases. But we really have created a dream team in general, but in particular, they have incredible poultry experience. So no means are we walking away from dairy or swine, but we are going to lean heavily into poultry. Poultry represents about 40% of the $3 billion global opportunity that’s been created by the elimination of antibiotics in the human food chain. And so you’re talking a $1.2 billion opportunity, where from Fred to that team that I just mentioned, their – with a quick phone call, they can get to every level at all the major decision-makers around the world, and we are getting interest like never before. So it’s very, very exciting.

[Susan Kreh:]

Hey, thanks, Dan. And today, I am going to recap the second quarter for you. So in our second quarter of fiscal 2021, Oil-Dri delivered another solid quarter of top line growth with net sales of $74.5 million, growing 5% over net sales during the same quarter in the prior year. Both our Business to Business Products Group, which grew 7%, and our Retail and Wholesale Products Group, which grew 4%, contributed to this growth, demonstrating that as Dan said, we are achieving success in two of the key areas of our strategic focus, and those are mineral-based animal feed additives and lightweight cat litter. Additionally, it was a very strong quarter within our Business to Business Products Group as all product lines experienced year-over-year growth in net sales. We are seeing evidence that the focus on our mineral-based strategy in animal health and nutrition products is paying off, with 20% net sales growth during the quarter over the second quarter of the prior year. Fred and his team, many of whom are new to Oil-Dri, and who Dan mentioned during his opening remarks, have done an excellent job of focusing on the strategy and are beginning to deliver on the opportunities having just delivered on an all-time high net sales for any second quarter for Amlan International, our animal health business. During the quarter, we saw the benefit of enhanced distribution of Varium and natural alternative to antibiotic growth promoters for poultry. We also experienced strong growth in China, Latin America and Mexico. So an all-around good story for Amlan and the investments that we’re making there. Now, switching to other Business to Business Products, Agricultural and Horticultural Products also had a strong quarter, achieving 10% growth over the same quarter in the prior year, driven primarily by increased sales with existing customers. And in our Fluids Purification Products, the decrease in sales of our jet fuel purification products that have been adversely impacted by the reductions in air travel due to the global pandemic were more than offset by the growth of our other products as our overall Fluids Purification products grew 3% in the quarter over the prior year. This growth was favorably impacted by increased sales to our foreign customers during the quarter.

[Dan Jaffee:]

Perfect. Thank you very much. Great summary. So yes, at this time, I’d like to open up to Q&A.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our first question comes from the line of Ethan Star, a Private Investor. Your question, please.

[Ethan Star:]

Yes. Hi, good morning. I know you’re in trials with some of the top poultry integrators in America. And I’m wondering how are those trials going? And how long might it take to convert those trials into sales?

[Dan Jaffee:]

Sure. Well, if you know that, then you know more than I do. So we have not disclosed, nor am I going to confirm nor deny we are in any trials with large poultry integrators in America. And even if we were, I wouldn’t tell you because honestly, until – as you know me well enough, until we’re in the end zone, we don’t celebrate. So we have nothing material to report at this time on that front. But I’ll let you ask another question because I didn’t really answer your question.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Hi, Ethan, your line is open again.

[Ethan Star:]

Do you see the sales cycle decreasing in terms of length of time to sales?

[Dan Jaffee:]

I will let Fred talk about the sales cycle, Fred?

[Fred Kao:]

Can you repeat that sales cycle decrease? I didn’t understand that.

[Dan Jaffee:]

Yes. I mean I don’t think it’s really going to decrease, so I’ll lead you in the right direction. Just generally talk about the sales cycle. I mean what do you think it takes to go from the first time we contact an account to potentially getting a real order, not a trial, but a real order.

[Fred Kao:]

Okay, understood. And good question. So it really depends on the species, right? If we have a chicken poultry company that contact with us, the sales cycle will likely be anywhere between 3 to 6 months because usually for the customers to be convinced, they would like to have a couple of trials in place. So that’s the normal time. If the – for swine market, this is going to be much longer, depending on the usage, if they are using on a breeding side of the sales, then that cycle is going to be dragging out for more than 1.5 years, right? But if they are using on the piglets, so it is shorter, but we’re still looking at a year cycle, a 1.5 year cycle timing.

[Dan Jaffee:]

So it’s clearly a lengthy cycle. But then on the flip, if and when they adopt, they are very slow to change. So then you’re in there for a while and hopefully forever, obviously, the goal. But they don’t make quick decisions. There is too much at stake, and they are going to be very methodical in their decision-making process. But great question. Next?

[Operator:]

Our next question comes from the line of Robert Smith from the Center for Performance. Your question, please.

[Robert Smith:]

Yes. Good morning. Thanks for taking my question.

[Dan Jaffee:]

Hi, Rob.

[Robert Smith:]

Hi. So congratulations on – I have, for a long time, felt that Amlan was going to be the tailed that wagged the cat, so to speak. And I’m glad to see the initiatives that are being taken. My first question would revolve around, you mentioned 11 markets. Can you name the markets for me?

[Dan Jaffee:]

I mean we could. But again, it would only hurt your investment. So no. Other than America, we’re not going to name exactly which markets we’re going to. That just tips off the competition too well.

[Robert Smith:]

Well, I assume there is a larger countries and the countries that have been named in the past, I mean.

[Dan Jaffee:]

Well, I mean, I just wouldn’t make any assumptions other than the opportunity is – what you need to focus on is that it’s two-thirds of the $1.2 billion opportunity. So it’s large. It’s not like it’s 11 countries that together only are buying $50 million worth of antibiotic. So it’s a great opportunity.

[Robert Smith:]

So you mentioned in the prepared remarks that China had this big increase. I assume it’s off a very, very low number, so to speak. Is that...

[Dan Jaffee:]

I’ll let Fred talk about China.

[Fred Kao:]

Bob, not really, I won’t say it’s based on very low number, right? So as Dan and Susan mentioned earlier, we were able to close on the existing customers, one of the biggest company in China. And based on that, it was giving us a huge boost on our existing business. And on top of that, we’re able to bring back some of the old distributors that we have relationship with, where we kind of lost connection because of the previous team, right? And we’re able to gain on that. And so that 100 products, 40% growth that we’re seeing quarter two is really has a lot to do with not because of the small numbers we had before, really because of the potential we’re building on, right? So you’ll be able to see that in upcoming quarters. So I guess that’s probably the best way to explain that.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of John Bair from Ascend Wealth Advisors. Your question, please.

[John Bair:]

Good morning. First off, I wonder what – Dan what brand coffee you’re drinking? I don’t think I’ve ever heard you quite as animated in your opening comments as you were. So with that aside, you can get back to me on that. So it sounds like there is a shift – your emphasis is shifting from – maybe from the international, let’s say, from your focus on China, previously, and now more of a focus domestically. And also, I guess, that would mean going from focusing on the swine market versus the poultry. But I’ve read a lot about how the swine market is trying to be rebuilt in China and so forth. So, I’m just wondering how that aspect of Amlan’s business is proceeding.

[Dan Jaffee:]

Alright. Well, I’m going to let Fred answer the question about China. I’ll answer the question about my coffee. It’s Peppermint Bark, ice coffee. And yes, I am – but I’m really excited about the opportunity. I drink that every morning. So what you’re saying to me, is I’m excited. But Fred, talking about China and what species we’re seeing business from? And where we see maybe the future?

[Fred Kao:]

Yes. Thank you. So for China, right, the species, actually we’re working on multiple, right? So right now, the biggest opportunity like you mentioned earlier is swine because I think that’s where – would African swine fever and people on companies are coming out of Africa and swine fever. They are focused on making sure that the population of the pigs are actually healthy. So we’re seeing a huge boost in that field. At the same time, we’re seeing a pretty nice increase in the remnant market as well, right? So I think it’s not just on the swine market, but both. But just to add a little bit on the swine market. Also with African swine fever, that’s the increased risk of the vulnerability of that market, right, because we don’t really have a way of making sure that pigs are staying healthy, not harmful way from the virus. So that’s a challenge we are faced with. But at the same time, we actually give us opportunity because people are willing to invest more on making sure the healthy flock is maintained, right? So that gives us a different opportunity to get into the market as well.

[John Bair:]

Great. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our next question is a follow-up from Ethan Star. Your question, please.

[Ethan Star:]

Yes. I’m just wondering, so what kind of top feedback do you get from your existing customers for Amlan, the NeoPrime and Varium. What feedback do you get in the results and their return on investment, that kind of thing? And what – does that help you get additional customers?

[Dan Jaffee:]

Fred?

[Fred Kao:]

Yes. I can take that, right, Dan or...

[Dan Jaffee:]

Yes.

[Fred Kao:]

Okay. Well, very, very positive, Ethan. So what we’re seeing right is, the customers – you asking about a turnaround kind of circle, right, if we have customers using Varium, the only thing we’ve seen that increasing the number of tonnage they are ordering, we have not seen a customer that started using Varium and started reducing the tonnage of orders since I’ve joined the company. So it’s a very, very nice and positive trend. For NeoPrime, it’s the same we are seeing the same trend as it takes time to convince customers actually to use our product. But once they start using it and seeing that the effect that has on as – and a wise alternative, we’re only seeing the trend going up. And that’s really encouraging, and that’s the key message that I think I can give you here.

[Dan Jaffee:]

And I’m going to add on to this just anecdotally or generally. Because Fred and Jay and Heath and Wade really and Herald are really able to understand the data in the test and turn it because they have got so much experience in this industry, put it in terms that the decision-makers are motivated to keep moving forward. So for instance, we’ve been myopically focusing historically on feed conversion ratio, which is what’s the cause of the input? And what do you get out of it in terms of weight gain or whatever it is you’re trying to get out of the reason why you’re raising the animal? So let’s just call it in poultry, weight gain. Well, we recently did a study, a test with a big player in a big country, and I’m not going to get into the details, but we need to get into is why is Dan so excited. It’s twofold. I’ve always believed in our products. I’ve always believed in it, but we had a test with them where the feed conversion ratio of us against the control was about identical. So there were members of our team that we’re perceiving this as a failed trial because why would you buy our product if you’re not going to increase the feed conversion ratio. Fortunately, Fred was on the call. It was 11

[Fred Kao:]

Yes. And I just want to add. Thanks, Dan. That’s really – the thing we’re talking about is the total number of output, right? So if we’re able to have more birds in the chicken houses of using our product, the output, I mean, right, and the mix that you don’t really see it in terms of – on a statistical sheet. But if you do a calculation based on dollar amount, that’s a huge advantage on our product. And that’s what Dan says, interpretation of the data, right, needs to be done properly, and we need to educate the customers and understand best where we come in. We may not win on one thing, but at the bottom line, that’s the most important number, right, if we won a dollar amount then we’re actually a big winner.

[Dan Jaffee:]

Excellent. And we’re out of time, but it’s fine. We’ve covered honestly, as an investor, and I’m the biggest investor here, we’ve covered what you need to know to be hopefully, as enthusiastic about the long-term prospects. It’s going to take time, but the ship is starting to turn, and it starts with the people and the strategy, and then we’ve got the support team. By the way, thank God, we invested in the ERP system a few years ago. Thank God, we dramatically improved the talent level of the company, from Susan to Molly to Laura to Jessica to Fred, and I can go on and on and on. I hate to eliminate anybody. But the fact of the matter is Oil-Dri is well positioned and well poised at this point in time to take advantage of this opportunity. Had this opportunity hit 3 years ago, it would have killed us. And now we’re ready for it. I am not telling you we’re not going to have problems, and that we won’t feel some stress fractures. Those will be nice problems to have because it will mean the business is booming. But we are in great shape to take advantage of this. And so thank you for your interest. We’ll be back at you again after the third quarter and 9 months. And I’ll stay on my coffee because it’s working. Take care.

[Operator:]

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for your participation in today’s conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good day.