Omeros Corporation
Q4 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

Published: 1 Mar 2021

[Operator:]

Good afternoon and welcome to today's earnings call for Omeros Corporation. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the company's remarks, we'll conduct a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that this call is being recorded at the compnays request and a replay will be available on the company's website for one week from today. I'll turn over the call to Jennifer Williams, Investor Relations for Omeros.

[Jennifer Williams:]

Good afternoon and thank you for joining the call today. Dr. Greg Demopulos, Chairman and CEO of Omeros, will take you through a corporate update; and then Mike Jacobsen, our Chief Accounting Officer, will provide an overview of our fourth quarter financial results. We have some time reserved for questions after the financial overview.

[Greg Demopulos:]

Thank you, Jennifer, and good afternoon, everyone. We appreciate you joining us for today's call. I will start today with our supplement and our supplement is our fully human antibody targeting MASP-2, which the effector enzyme of the lectin pathway of complement. In January FDA accepted our BLA for priority review for the hematopoietic stem cell transplant-associated thrombotic microangiopathy or TA-TMA. Priority review shortens FDA's review period from 10 months to six months. As a result, the PDUFA date is July 17. We've continued working closely with FDA during the review of our BLA. As we prepare for the anticipated approval in commercial launch of narsoplimab for TA-TMA, we're very excited to have recently welcomed Nadia Dac to our senior leadership team as Chief Commercial Officer. Nadia brings impressive breadth and depth of leadership, general management and launch experience in places like Alder, which was acquired by Lundbeck, AbbVie, Novartis and Pfizer. A valuable addition to Omeros, Nadia is already contributing to what we expect will be a successful launch of narsoplimab and the continued growth of OMIDRIA. As those who have followed our progress know, we have been executing for well over a year on our launch strategy for narsoplimab in TA-TMA and launch readiness activities continued to progress throughout the fourth quarter of 2020. Our sales leadership team has already been hired and is comprised of talented individuals with deep experience in stem cell transplantation hematology and oncology. With strong engagement from the transplant community, our disease education efforts are successfully driving increased awareness of TA-TMA and market research demonstrates a growing understanding within the transplant community of the central role of the lectin pathway in the pathophysiology of TA-TMA. As part of our narsoplimab lunch activities, we have also been focused on securing appropriate reimbursement. During the fourth quarter, we completed the filing and presentation required to obtain a new technology add-on payment or NTAP. Established by CMS, NTAP is a special payment methodology that applies to new medical technologies such as narsoplimab that will be administered in the hospital inpatient setting. NTAP provides an additional payment to hospitals above Medicare standard all inclusive DRG payment. We believe that narsoplimab qualifies for an NTAP designation and we look forward to the posting of the NTAP interim rule next quarter.

[Michael Jacobsen:]

Thanks Greg. As Greg noted OMIDRIA and total revenues for the fourth quarter were $10.6 million. Our net loss for the quarter was $37.3 million or $0.60 per share and noncash expenses were $3.5 million or $0.06 per share. Our reoccurring non-cash expenses are usually around $6.5 to $7 million or $0.12 to $0.13 per share. During the fourth quarter, we recognized non-cash income tax benefit of $4.2 million related to the issuance of our 2026 convertible unsecured notes. Recognizing this benefit reduced our overall non-cash expenses by $0.07 per share. As of December 31, 2020, we had $135 million of cash, cash equivalents and short-term investments available for general operations. We also have an accounts receivable baseline of credit which allows us to borrow up to $50 million based on 85% of our available accounts receivable borrowing base less certain reserves. Here are some additional details regarding our fourth quarter 2020 results compared to the third quarter of last year -- third quarter of 2020. Our revenues for the fourth quarter were severely affected by the uncertainty around -- availability of separate payment for OMIDRIA following the October 1 expiration of pass-through reimbursement. During the period from mid-September through December 2 at which time CMS confirmed that OMIDRIA qualifies for separate payment in the ASCs, sales to our wholesalers will greatly reduced. Once CMS announced confirmation of separate payment, sales improved and then we entered the holiday season. Some customers also waited for their respective regional Medicare Administrative Contract or MAC to post on its website CMS' decision and reimbursement details for OMIDRIA, verifying CMS' decision to pay separately for OMIDRIA. By the end of January of '21, all MAC had posted the correct OMIDRIA reimbursement information and were appropriately reimbursing for the use of the drug. During the fourth quarter, we reduced our previously recorded reserve for wholesale returns. As you may recall, in the third quarter record we recorded an $8.7 million return reserve due to the uncertainty surrounding OMIDRIA reimbursement. Subsequent to receiving separate payment, we reduced this reserve by $5.7 million as of OMIDRIA drug product at our wholesalers is now expected to be fully utilized. The remaining $3 million is being recognized through incremental purchases in the first quarter of 2021 as ASC's increased their usage of OMIDRIA and restock for the product they returned to us following the expiration of reimbursement on October 1, 2020. Our fourth quarter gross to net deductions excluding return reserves were generally consistent with prior quarters. Cost and expenses for the fourth quarter were $44.4 million or $7.1 million less than the third quarter. The relatively higher expenses in Q3 were primarily due to an outgoing $5 million technology license payment made during that quarter to ensure that OMS906 can be manufactured for potential commercial use without impediment. Interest expense for the current quarter was $8 million and included a full quarter of interest on the 2026 convertible notes. This was in line with our expectations. As we mentioned earlier, we recorded an income tax benefit of $4.2 million related to the issuance of the 2026 convertible notes. This was recorded in the fourth quarter rather than in third quarter due to inter period income tax allocation rules. Looking ahead, we assume separate payment by CMS for OMIDRIA and the ASCs will continue. Any change to that reimbursement will require a fundamental revision to CMS' broader policy to pay separately for non-opiate pain management drugs used during surgery. Accordingly, we are confident that OMIDRIA revenues will increase significantly in the first quarter of '21 compared to the fourth quarter of 2020, as previous ASC customers continue resuming their use of OMIDRIA and as the ranks of new customers continue to grow. We expect our research and development expenses for the first quarter of 2021 will be slightly higher than in the fourth quarter of 2020 as we continue our ongoing narsoplimab phase 3 programs and manufacture additional commercial drug supply in preparation for the expected market launch and subsequent sales growth of narsoplimab for the treatment of TA-TMA. As we previously explained, manufacturing costs are generally expensed as incurred rather than included as inventory until regulatory approval is highly assured. SG&A costs are expected to increase in the first quarter and across the year driven in good part by the hiring of narsoplimab focused field sales staff in TA-TMA launch preparations. With that, I'll turn the call back over to Greg. Hey Greg?

[Greg Demopulos:]

Thanks Mike. Operator, let's please open the call to questions.

[Operator:]

And your first question comes from the line of Steve Brozak with WBB.

[Steve Brozak:]

Just one and a follow up after that please. Can you give more clarity on OMIDRIA because one of the things that I'm reading into this is specifically that you received reimbursement authorization as of December, but December is a short month given the holidays and everything else. So can you be more specific in how many weeks you actually had for selling for OMIDRIA and I'll give you a follow-up after that please.

[Greg Demopulos:]

As you pointed out, CMS restored separate payment for OMIDRIA in early December. So you're right, this quarter was a relatively short quarter. A lot of the customers ASCs and HOPDs just like anyone else, don't like uncertainty and the fourth quarter was filled with uncertainty with respect to OMIDRIA reimbursement until CMS decided and confirmed that it would be restoring separate payment in early December. Once that happened I think as Mike pointed out, sales again picked up, but as you understand, during the holiday season surgical procedures largely grind to a halt. So that likely affected sales, but we're quite pleased with what we saw in the fourth quarter and we're again pleased with what we're seeing as our progress in Q1.

[Steve Brozak:]

Going back to narsoplimab, I think sometime early last week, when Francis Collins basically started going out memorializing specifics around the long haulers and I think it was just about 1.15 billion for long-hauler investigation and long-hauler resourcing over the next three years, can you give us more detail about how you're proposing to look at narsoplimab specifically for long-haulers because obviously I know that you're looking at it specifically for the treatment of serious patients, but what can you tell us in as much detail on the long-haulers side and why that would makes sense and I'll circle back in the queue. Thank you.

[Greg Demopulos:]

Well first, we're aware of the NIH initiative. As you said, it's a $1.15 billion initiative to look effectively at the sequelae of COVID. So looking at the long-term sequelae and complications of patients whose initial symptomatic disease has result. So this is as I think I mentioned in the prepared comments in area of increasing recognition and concern what we do know about the patients treated with narsoplimab is that those patients for whom we have data which includes the entire first cohort of the Bergamo patients show no evidence of sequelae and when I say no evidence, I mean no laboratory or clinical evidence of sequelae. And for other patients that we have treated for whom we have data, again we have not seen any evidence of long-term sequelae. So it's interesting. Again we're not talking about large numbers, but when you look at the percentage of patients across the spectrum for those who have that COVID, those percentages are pretty high. So perhaps one would have expected that you would have seen some signal of long-term sequelae in the patients treated with narsoplimab, but we have not seen any. So again this is an interesting area. We believe that the long-term sequelae or a good part of them are tied to endothelial injury, which again matches I think quite well the mechanism of action of narsoplimab and specifically the pathophysiology tied to the lectin pathway. So we see an opportunity here. Again we're familiar with that initiative and as I said earlier, we are considering looking not only at potentially preventing those sequelae, but also treating those sequelae.

[Steve Brozak:]

Obviously we're looking forward to what happens in the results. So let me jump back in the queue. Thank you again.

[Operator:]

And your next question comes from the line of Alice Nettleton with UBS.

[Alice Nettleton:]

In the past few months, there seem to be -- there seem to have been some additional trial delays within the IGAN space including review trial where the reason seems to be slow enrollment worsened by the pandemic. Could you expand on why this seems to be an issue in the IGA trail and how you see your potential enrollment increasing? Thank you.

[Greg Demopulos:]

Well, as we've seen in other trials not just in the IGA trial meaning not just in Omeros' trial, but as you point out another trials, trials that are largely are in good part hospital-based, are experiencing challenges in enrollment just because of specific hospital restrictions around patient access and also around screening etcetera. So we are continuing as I think I mentioned to expand the number and the geographic regions from which we are drawing patients, but we also look to the easing of these COVID restrictions to help accelerate that enrollment. I think so again as I mentioned even without we aren’t counting on those restrictions being lightened or removed. We are continuing to approach this as if those restrictions will stay in place and that's why we're increasing the number of sites and expanding those geographic regions from which we're drawing. Did that answer your question?

[Alice Nettleton:]

Yes. Thank you. And I guess I am wondering why has this something to do with the disease itself that outside of the pandemic it's kind of problems with enrollment which had happened?

[Greg Demopulos:]

Again I can't -- I'm absolute it's always dangerous statement. So I am not going to say absolutely no or across all patients no, but that certainly is not a primary driver in this. It's really just -- it's really just hospital-specific restrictions and the ability to access these patients, enroll these patients, screen these patients and treat these patients.

[Alice Nettleton:]

And I've one follow-up if you don’t mind. We're expecting data from two inhibitors and IGAN in 2021, the trail in LNP023 and then the IMS trial. Can you explain what you'll be looking for in that data in terms of achieved narsoplimab?

[Greg Demopulos:]

Sure, I think what we'll be looking for is of course the level of proteinuria reduction that those drugs deliver. We have a good level of confidence that the driver in IGA nephropathy and as the more recent data now are showing even more broadly in progressive and chronic renal diseases as a whole, but the real driver is the lectin pathway. The alternative pathway is subsequently upregulated in response to the initial activation of the lectin pathway. So from our perspective and from I think the perspective of many IGA experts with whom we work is that the initiating event or the real drivers is the lectin pathway. If you inhibit the lectin pathway, the response will be significantly better and I think our data have really borne that out. When you look at the data with narsoplimab versus what other drugs have made public around level of proteinuria reduction, narsoplimab related proteinuria reduction is a multiple of what other drugs have been able to deliver and that's really pretty and that's I shouldn't say pretty uniform, that's uniform. So I think that that is why also narsoplimab is the only drug that can obtain as far as we know full approval on proteinuria alone, that is really a reflection of the magnitude and the rapidity of proteinuria reduction that we see with narsoplimab. So we'll be looking at obviously proteinuria reduction. We'll also be very interested to see EGFR what's happening with EGFR. There are drugs and companies with drugs that have reported out on stabilization of EGFR etcetera but often they don't report what happens with proteinuria and I think you really need to look at both of those components to understand what the drug is really doing. So I think let me stop there and see if you have any other question about that.

[Alice Nettleton:]

That's great. Thanks Greg.

[Operator:]

Your next question comes from the line of Raghuram Selvaraju with H.C. Wainwright.

[Raghuram Selvaraju:]

Just wanted to touch quickly on the narsoplimab I-SPY program involvement and what you expect in terms of readout from I-SPY and specifically what the context of that would be, what the nature of that data is likely to be given the fact that there are multiple candidates being assessed within that program, if you could provide us with more of a framework on what we should legitimately expect from I-SPY and how long it's going to take to yield data?

[Greg Demopulos:]

Sure, so I think first you have to understand that that trial is really independent of narsoplimab and I am sorry, independent of Omeros other than the provision of narsoplimab. So it really is an investigator sponsored trial. So what we do is provide the drug and they run the study as they have design. It is as you pointed out an adaptive and a platform trial, so that they run five arms one of those being a control arm and I believe four actives. Narsoplimab is the only complement inhibitor that has been invited or I expect will be invited to participate in the trial. The readout is really one of length of stay in the hospital mortality rate all of the things that you would expect in a trial like that. The patients that were treating there may not be quite as sick as those that were treating through compassionate use. As you know in compassionate use we're treating really now only patients who are intubated and have failed all other therapies. We're really kind of treating the incurable at this point and in those patients, curing the un-curable, but I think in this study, they're going to be patients as you can see in their protocol who are hospitalized and requiring oxygen support.

[Raghuram Selvaraju:]

So it would be reasonable to expect therefore given this kind of clinical readout that if narsoplimab has a positive impact on length of stay in the hospital that's been proven to be an approvable endpoint the FDA has granted EUA on the basis of such an endpoint before that at least hypothetically it's not out of the question for this to be sufficient evidence on which the FDA could grant an EUA to narsoplimab and COVID-19 based on the maybe effective criteria?

[Greg Demopulos:]

Sure, and mortality as well for reduction in mortality. I will say and I probably should've mentioned this earlier, that the I-SPY group, the quantum group is working very closely with FDA on that trail. So they're in close communication. So the objective of that trial is to find a drug or drugs that are effective in COVID-19 that is the single objective. So I would expect that I think I'm pretty confident in saying that of course success in that program should lead to making a successful drug more widely available to the general population.

[Raghuram Selvaraju:]

Okay. Then just a couple of very quick one for me, the OMS906 post phase 1 clinical development, I was just wondering if you anticipate once the drug transitions into the next stage of development, prioritizing subcutaneous administration or if you're going to pursue both subcutaneous as well as intravenous administration.

[Greg Demopulos:]

I'm sorry that was a question around 906, yes certainly, in our phase I trial we're looking at both subcutaneous and intravenous. Intravenous as the reference point, but the objective is clearly to move that program through clinical development as a subcutaneous administration and again, subcutaneous administration that we're targeting once monthly or less frequent administration, but let me see if Steve has any comments to add to that.

[Steve Whitaker:]

No Greg, I think you summed it up well, it could go either way between the phase I results.

[Raghuram Selvaraju:]

Okay. And then lastly, would you expect clinical development timeline that you originally laid them out for OMS527 and GPR174, those two programs to continue to be impacted in any way in terms of the timing of initiation of future studies by the COVID-19 pandemic or do you anticipate that those two programs could advance even if the pandemic continues to persist as it currently is today?

[Greg Demopulos:]

Well, I want to make sure that I'm tracking on the programs that you mentioned. We have not given any timeline previously around GPR174 entering the clinic. So I just -- I want to make sure that I'm answering your question.

[Raghuram Selvaraju:]

I think the question is not so much in terms of getting guidance. It's more in terms of whether you consider the pandemic to be impacting the forward progress of those programs at all.

[Greg Demopulos:]

Yeah it really depends on which way we go with respect to indication trial design etcetera. Obviously of COVID is remaining with us for an extended period of time, all of those factors will be brought in to our discussions and decisions about how we proceed. So I think the best way to answer that would be our objective would certainly be to avoid as best as possible any obstacles in clinical development.

[Operator:]

And your next question comes from the line of Geoff Meacham with Bank of America.

[UnidentifiedAnalyst:]

Good morning, this is Jason on for Geoff, Greg. Thanks so much for taking our call. Question on the commercial launch preparations for narsoplimab. Thanks so much for the color. I am curious what do you envision to be the greater bottlenecks or hurdles here just trying to think ahead to when you anticipate an inflection in terms of uptake and then as a second part of the question, to the extent that you can, can you talk a little bit about your pricing considerations kind of longer-term thinking about a number of different other indications and complement and then how that shapes your thinking, thanks?

[Greg Demopulos:]

Sure, hi Jason, with respect to bottlenecks, look I think that that our commercial team has really been all over this and they are really very well prepared and very well-equipped to commercialize narsoplimab in TA-TMA. There are a number of advantages that you understand specifically the relatively small number of sites that perform these procedures meaning the relatively contained group of sales force that's needed to do that. It's accessing the facilities, it's accessing the key opinion leaders, really are all of that. Our Met Affairs team has been very successful in doing and I would say we have the broad support of key opinion leaders not just in the US, but international. So with respect to bottlenecks, yeah there are always things that will come up as you know that we will have to deal with, but I think the groundwork that's already been laid and the preparations and frankly the expertise of the commercial team we have not just broadly, but even specifically in this area of transplantation I really think is pretty tremendous. So I think anything that does arise that team will be able to address quickly. So we're always looking, we're always aware, but we like the way things are headed. With respect to pricing, we haven't given any guidance on pricing other than to say that TA-TMA is an ultra orphan indication. Certainly, these patients appear otherwise to do quite poorly when TA-TMA is severe. So if you think about the health economics of a treatment like narsoplimab in this setting, I think those are significant, but certainly we're looking at that. I think also there may even be some rough comparables. It's I think as you know Solaris has been used narsoplimab has been used off label intermittently in TA-TMA and so again I think there are some data points out there, but our reimbursement team and our commercial team are working through all of those and the objective is to make the drug available to patients at a price that works for everyone.

[Operator:]

And your next question comes from the line of Serge Belanger with Needham & Company.

[Serge Belanger:]

Just a couple questions on OMIDRIA, Greg based on the CMS decision from last December it was granted for calendar year 2021, but do expect to provide the basis for all long-term reimbursement solution for the product and have you made any changes to the commercialization strategy for OMIDRIA for 2021?

[Greg Demopulos:]

All right Serge. Thanks. First yes, we do see it as a long-term and here's why. It is true that when CMS issued their determination or their confirmation of separate payment for OMIDRIA it came in the form of the 2021 calendar year. OPPS and ASC final rule, right and that's an annual -- that's an annual vehicle for CMS, but that is very different now than us meaning Omeros being required to reapply for this exclusion under that policy of paying separately for non-opioid pain management surgical drugs. So the determination has been made that we meet the objective criteria. That is now done. So what would CMS have to do to change that or really CMS would have to change the policy revised generally the policy. So this isn't something that in the same way that CMS can revisit any of their policies through the annual rulemaking and comment period, that can occur for any of their policies any year, but you also have to take a look at this specific policy and see that it has remained in effect with CMS since 2019, it hasn’t changed. So we do not expect it to change in the near future. So I know that's a subtle distinction because there's this idea that while it's for calendar year 2021, but CMS is not required to revisit this next year as they are not required to revisit any policy and we do not need to reapply for it.

[Serge Belanger:]

So now that you have more visibility in the reimbursement of the product, does that change your commercialization strategy to you invest more in -- expand the sales force to grow that revenue line?

[Greg Demopulos:]

It's a good question. I think we've got a sufficient sales force currently to manage all territories across the country and to manage them well. The team I think is really one of the premier sales forces for the ASC or the surgical setting. So ASC HOPD call point. So we're quite happy with what we're doing there. With respect to the strategy it really hasn't changed. I mentioned one thing that we're doing I think in the prepared comments, which is that we are specifically working now with ASC chains and private equity groups that control large numbers of ASCs and the reason for that and the focus there in putting together partnerships with those groups is very clear. They control very large numbers of cataract surgery. So cataract surgery volume annual volume is controlled in good part by those ASC chains and by those growing private equity groups. So that is part of our strategy, but I think generally we're seeing this as OMIDRIA has been appropriately recognized as meeting the exclusion as a non-opioid pain management surgical drug and therefore qualifies and will continue to qualify for separate payment in the ASCs. So we're pushing ahead. Now the other thing that we are doing is watching very closely what's happening in DC with respect to the No Pain Act, right. This is a bill that really enjoys broad-based and strong bipartisan and bicameral support, including leadership of the key committees in the house and key committee in the Senate. So this is one of those rare I think examples where you really can engender bipartisan, strong bipartisan support. This is talking about opioid abuse and the way to prevent or treat that and one of the ways is to prevent the wide use of opioids during surgical procedures and we've gone through before what the risks are to those patients. So I won't go through it again other than to say the cataract surgery patients in particular are at significant risk of long-term opioid use disorder following exposure to opioids intraoperatively. So it's the right approach. The important part of the No Pain Act is that it would expand separate payment from ASC's to also include HOPD's. Now the majority of cataract procedures 880% plus are performed in ASC's but it would also be nice to have this same access to drugs like OMIDRIA readily available. It's already available, hospitals are making use of OMIDRIA but it would be I think very helpful for them to have the same access that ASCs have and that No Pain Act would enable that for a five-year period renewable on a five-year revolving basis.

[Operator:]

Your next question comes from the line of with Wedbush Securities.

[Unidentified Analyst:]

Good afternoon and thank you for taking our questions. This is Andreas on for Leon . Most of our questions are ready asked. So just a quick follow-up from the previous, so there has been a noticeable trend growth in elective surgical procedure shifting to the ECS setting. How do you guys see this trends impacting future sales of OMIDRIA? And then for narsoplimab, do you guys plan on hosting a commercial date for investors just to give us a analyst to give us an idea of your thoughts on how to go ahead with that launch? Thank you.

[Greg Demopulos:]

Sure in answer to your first question, certainly there is being a shift -- there is a shift underway and has been underway for quite a while from HOPDs to ASCs for elective surgical procedures and that's really as you understand very well the cost efficiencies associated with ASCs. Certainly that I think would inure to the benefit of OMIDRIA right. I think again the idea there is in ASCs is quick turnover of cases, high volumes running through those ASC's, OMIDRIA really does allow that right, it takes away significantly diminishes those risks of complications that can slow procedures down and really slow down surgical volume throughput. So yeah I see certainly the shift to ASCs further enhancing the utilization of OMIDRIA. With respect to your second question, yes, we are considering an Analyst Day and that would address the science and the commercial aspects of the indications for narsoplimab and obviously with a focus on TA-TMA and our launch preparations there.

[Operator:]

Your next question comes from the line of Brandon Folkes with Cantor Fitzgerald.

[Brandon Folkes:]

Maybe just on this I-SPY, obviously I heard what you said earlier true investigator response in trial, but do you have a sense of whether we may see data in terms of what they're looking for I guess the July Pdufa date for narsoplimab and the reason I ask is kind of pivots into my next question is how do we think about narsoplimab commercial supply let's say narsoplimab does good results in this I-SPY data readout. Is sounds like all the patients that I assume it's along the patient population what should we be thinking about in terms of the dynamic of I-SPY data readout, wanting to move very quickly there from a government perspective versus the narsoplimab TA-TMA commercial launch from the trail?

[Greg Demopulos:]

Thanks Brandon. I understand the question and I apologize in advance for the somewhat circular response that I'm going to give you, but with respect to what we have data is really dependent upon how quickly the I-SPY trail enrolls and as I understand it, the patients that are enrolled are sort of evenly distributed across the active treatment. So I think they have been enrolling well. We've been getting updates on their enrollment and they certainly ramped up and are enrolling well. In fact I would say probably if not the best probably one of the best enrolling trial of it we have seen, but I think it's going to depend on how quickly they do that and then how quickly they look at data. They do have a data monitoring committee safety committee as well and they’ll be looking at those data. So we'll have to see how quick that readout comes. We're hoping that readout will come pretty quickly from that study, but again that's largely out of our what is effectively out of our hands, out of our control. Let me answer the question about how we would address drug supply across a TA-TMA lunch assuming the drug is approved and in COVID that's a great question. Obviously, our initial plans were really focused on TA-TMA and we initially manufactured and generated a drug supply to be sufficient for an ultra orphan indications. As the data have continued to come in not just clinical data, but frankly not clinical data as well either out of research laboratories here in the US at some of the top sites as well as our complement research laboratories at the University of Cambridge, all arrows point I think to the lectin pathway and to the rollout of MASP-2 in COVID-19. It's very interesting how all of the data fit together. As that has happened, we've had to think quite seriously and plan how we would manage having to supply potentially drug for both and even drug for potentially other clinical trials that some might want to run using our drug. Again what we don't want to do is cannibalize the TA-TMA drugs because that too is an indication where mortality rates are high. So we're trying to balance that. One of the clear answers is increased manufacturing and that's why I think on a number of calls and in our discussions with government agencies whether they be in the US or ex-US are sort of manufacturing as front and center in those discussions because that support would be needed to make narsoplimab broadly available. Does that help, Brandon. Operator? Okay. All right. I hope that answered his question.

[Operator:]

And there are no follow-up questions at this time. I'd now like to turn the call over to Dr. Demopulos for closing remarks.

[Greg Demopulos:]

Thank you, operator and thanks everyone again for taking the time to listen in. As we look across our programs narsoplimab, OMIDRIA, OMS906, GPR174 and others, it's clear that our team has really made tremendous progress. 2021 has continued to build on those successes from 2020 and we look forward to updating you on pending milestones. Until then, all of us at Omeros appreciate your continued support and we hope that you and your families are remaining safe and healthy. Have a good evening. Thank you.

[Operator:]

This concludes today's conference call. We thank you for your participation. You many now disconnect.