SandRidge Energy, Inc.
Q3 2015 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to SandRidge Energy's Third Quarter 2015 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Duane Grubert, Executive Vice President of Investor Relations and Strategy. Please go ahead.
- Duane M. Grubert:
- Thank you, operator. Welcome, everyone. Thank you for joining us on our conference call. This is Duane Grubert, EVP of Investor Relations and Strategy here at SandRidge. With me today are James Bennett, our President and Chief Executive Officer; Steve Turk, EVP and Chief Operating Officer; and Julian Bott, EVP and Chief Financial Officer. We would like to remind you that in conjunction with our earnings release and conference call, we have posted slides on our website under the Investor Relations tab that we'll be referencing during the call. Keep in mind today's call contains forward-looking statements and assumptions which are subject to risk and uncertainty, and actual results may differ materially from those projected in these forward-looking statements. Additionally, we will make reference to adjusted net income, adjusted EBITDA and other non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of the discussion of those measures can be found on the website. And please note the call is intended to discuss SandRidge Energy and not our public royalty trust. Now let me turn the call over to CEO James Bennett.
- James D. Bennett:
- Thank you, Duane. Good morning, everyone. The third quarter and the weeks since the end of the quarter have been an active time for SandRidge on multiple fronts. Despite a continued volatile market backdrop, we're doing exactly what we said we would do on our last two calls. Protect and ensure adequate liquidity, capital allocation will be rigorous and dynamic, and we will reduce our debt. Along those lines, we have four major themes to cover today. Our operating results, the Niobrara Shale acquisition, progress on debt reduction and liability management, and how we're thinking about 2016 and beyond. Before I begin, as I think about what we've accomplished this year. If in January of 2015, you would have told me that in the calendar year we would be able to get well costs below $2.3 million per lateral, take out $1 dollar per Boe of lease operating expenses, put extended laterals into the Chester and Woodford, plus place $1.25 billion in a very efficient second lien, retire $525 million of unsecured notes, purchase our PiΓ±on gathering system at approximately 3 times EBITDA, then acquire a 10-year inventory in a derisked area with 450 barrel of oil per day initial rates, I would have said that together was a low probability. But in fact, because of our focus on multiple fronts and successive 90-day plans, we've achieved all that and we're not finished for the year. Now to the quarter and operating results, where Steve will also get into further detail. We've seen our teams execute again and continue to push our innovation, capital efficiency and safety. This includes lowering well costs and achieving our second half 2015 (03
- Steve Turk:
- Thank you, James, and good morning to everyone dialing in today. I'm pleased to share the details of the progress that we have made towards our objectives of reducing costs and creating efficiencies within our operations. Much of this progress builds upon initiatives that were previewed in prior quarters. In the third quarter, total company production average 79,900 barrels of oil equivalent per day, 70,600 barrels of oil equivalent per day from the Mid-Continent. Natural base decline was a major contributor to a 10% quarter-over-quarter decrease. Despite this quarterly decline, continued confidence in our program led us to again increase the lower end of our annual guidance range by 500,000 barrels of oil equivalent. In addition, well delivery impacted production results. With our ongoing emphasis on capital conservation, we decreased activity to exit the quarter with four rigs, down from six rigs in quarter two. As anticipated, with this lower rig count, we delivered 35 laterals to shales (13
- Julian Mark Bott:
- Thanks, Steve, and good morning to everyone. I'm delighted to have joined the SandRidge team as CFO during the third quarter. And as you can undoubtedly tell, things have been exceptionally busy. I would like to first give you some additional details on our financial results for the quarter and then spend some time reviewing some of the highlights from the liability management initiatives that we have completed this year. Our adjusted EBITDA was $118 million compared to $161 million in the second quarter. This $43 million decrease was almost entirely attributable to the reductions in commodity price, $22 million; and production, $20 million. Adjusted G&A went down by $2.2 million to $27.7 million for the third quarter compared to the second quarter. Due to the continued decline in product prices, we recorded a non-cash ceiling test write-down of approximately $1 billion in the third quarter. Capital expenditures were $113 million during the quarter, a decrease of $56 million from the second quarter and in line with our expectations for the full year. CapEx decreased due to the reduced activity level but also benefited from the innovation and rigor being applied by our operating team that, as Steve described, has cut our D&C costs by more than 20% per lateral since the beginning of the year. Although not highlighted in the financials, we continue to make progress on selling non-strategic assets and year-to-date have realized or are in the process of closing more than $50 million of divestitures. These assets consisted of non-core real estate and oil field service equipment. We will continue to opportunistically evaluate additional sales. With regards to hedging, our mark-to-market position was a positive $119 million as of September 30. For the fourth quarter, all of our production is hedged. Please refer to the derivative contracts table in our earnings release for additional details on our 2015 and 2016 hedging program. As noted in the shareholder update and earnings release, we've updated guidance to raise the lower end of our production guidance from 29 million Boe to 29.5 million Boe. We also lowered our guidance for LOE and production tax expenses. Now I'd like to talk a bit about our liquidity and liability management initiatives, and expand on some of the comments James made earlier. You will notice on page 15 that we have included the capitalization table using par values in the earnings release and presentation. The table differs from the face of our balance sheet in the 10-Q. In particular, following our recent debt exchanges, the new convertible notes are significantly discounted from par on our balance sheet based on a fair value that was determined at issuance. We have provided a supplemental capitalization table in our earnings release to clarify the capitalization of the company at par. So first, I'll discuss liquidity. We ended the quarter with $790 million of cash. Our cash position, pro forma for exchanges, debt repurchases, and the PiΓ±on gathering transaction that occurred subsequent to the quarter close, was approximately $700 million. This cash position, plus our $500 million undrawn revolver brings our total pro forma liquidity as of September 30 to approximately $1.2 billion. As we think about liquidity, you should also note that we have additional first and second lien debt capacity available beyond our current revolver, as shown on page 16. Counting this potential availability, we could have access to $1.9 billion of capital. Beyond liquidity, we have been steadily reducing debt. This is highlighted on page 17. As James pointed out in his remarks, we have reduced debt by $400 million since June 30 and, year-to-date, in total, have addressed $975 million of debt through exchanges and buybacks. The convertible exchanges are a unique tool designed by our team, which effectively allows for orderly deleveraging at an effective stock price of $2.75 per share, which is much higher than today's price. We believe these transactions reduce debt while conserving liquidity and are highly accretive to all stakeholders, given that we are eliminating debt at significantly less than par. The convertible debt also includes a mandatory conversion feature which allows SandRidge to force conversion at deep discounts to par in the future. As can be seen on page 17, through October 31, investors have voluntary converted over $125 million of our convertible debt at an effective average price of approximately 26% of par. Including these conversions, year-to-date, we have reduced unsecured debt by over $525 million at an average price of 38% of par. An additional $450 million of convertible debt remains outstanding and is also available for conversion to provide additional deleveraging. Further, we have not just been addressing leverage through debt reduction. We have also been looking to address other contractual liabilities. In particular, we acquired the PiΓ±on gathering system for $48 million of cash and $78 million of incremental second lien debt. The transaction provides incremental annual EBITDA of $40 million, benefit SandRidge's credit profile, and was effected at approximately 3 times EBITDA. In summary, we value our liquidity and have been active, creative, and opportunistic in taking steps to manage our balance sheet through this downturn, while using minimal liquidity in our liability management program. We will continue to be flexible and responsive to market conditions as we move forward. That concludes my remarks, so let me now turn it back to James.
- James D. Bennett:
- This is James. I just wanted to clarify one thing in speaking about our year-end reserves. I said 5% of our reserve will come off as PDP and 15% as undeveloped. I may have said 50%, but that's 5% and 15%, and that is off the year end 2014 numbers, so just over 500 million barrels, but I wanted to clarify that. Operator, please open up the line for questions.
- Operator:
- Your first question comes from the line of Neal Dingmann from SunTrust. Your line is open.
- Will C. Derrick:
- Hey, James. Good morning. This is Will for Neal.
- James D. Bennett:
- Yes, Will.
- Will C. Derrick:
- First question, I guess, on the North Park acquisition, can you help us understand, I guess from an operational standpoint, when you all look at it, is there some low hanging fruit that you all see? I mean you addressed the well costs, I'm wondering if there's anything else there.
- James D. Bennett:
- Well, well cost is one. I think the ability of the teams to drill medium depth horizontal wells, deploying our multilateral and long lateral technologies. I would say also the experience the teams have in the Mid-Continent with our 1,300 wells in terms of optimizing artificial lift, whether we go from jet pump to Bean pump or start on Bean pump or use ESPs, a lot of artificial lift experience, and the last one would be infrastructure. A lot of experience building infrastructure, be it gas gathering, water gathering, or crude lines. And the last one would be probably pad drilling. We've got extensive experience in the Mid-Continent drilling off (27
- Steve Turk:
- I want to point β this is Steve Turk, I want to point out that we've cited 1,300 location potential in this acquisition. That doesn't necessarily mean we'll be drilling on 1,300 pads. We fully intend to start out pad drilling on this asset and at the type of well spacing we're considering, eight wells per section, which is used in the DJ, we could use maybe one-quarter of that number or somewhere around 200 pads to 300 pads to fully develop the asset.
- Will C. Derrick:
- Okay, all right, thanks. And then on the capital allocation side, you talked about activity in the first part of next year, drilling a few wells and getting some rigs going. But as you look out, I guess, beyond that, how would you think about potentially shifting capital away from the Miss and towards the North Park?
- James D. Bennett:
- Right, now, Will, we anticipate running a program in the Mid-Continent in the Miss and Chester and Woodford, and then also in the North Park Basin. We did say and I'm very clear with this, the capital allocation will be dynamic and projects will compete for capital. Right now in this environment where we have Mid-Continent well costs at $2.3 million per lateral and taking down LOE, those are very competitive with the returns in North Park Basin. If we have a change in those economics for the positive or the negative, or if we have a change in crude prices, we'll make changes dynamically. But right now we see it as a balanced program between them both.
- Will C. Derrick:
- Okay, great. Thanks, guys.
- James D. Bennett:
- You're welcome.
- Operator:
- Your next question comes from the line of Adam Leight from RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.
- Adam Leight:
- Good morning. Just a couple of questions wrapped around the acquisition first, but it's extended. Some of the mundane β what kind of evaluation do you need to do before you start spending there and what are your commitments to hold acreage look like for 2016? That's a starter.
- James D. Bennett:
- Yeah. So on the acreage, it's an important point, because there are Federal units there, 47% of the acreage is either held by production or held by unit. So long terms on those Federal units, too, so Adam, there's not a rush to hold acreage there. What was the other part of your question?
- Adam Leight:
- Do you have a fair amount of evaluation to do before you identify where you're going to drill and when, and any permitting and all that sort of thing?
- Steve Turk:
- No. I think one of the things that's attractive about this acquisition is our predecessor companies did a very good job gathering geotechnical data, and β so we have sophisticated log suites, we have cores, we have seismic that all allow us to move into the initial phase very quickly. So I don't think that there's a tremendous amount that we need to do before we start drilling. And as James stated, we will start drilling in January.
- Adam Leight:
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- James D. Bennett:
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- Adam Leight:
- Okay. And I gather you didn't get any people along with this acquisition. Are you fully staffed for what you need?
- James D. Bennett:
- We'll need some field staff in the area in the North Park Basin.
- Adam Leight:
- Okay. And then I guess on the broader sense. You addressed this a little bit, but the competition for capital, it looks to me that your lowest risk, highest return investments would be buying back more debt. I don't know what your limitations are at this point for using cash to purchase some of the deeply discounted debt (32
- James D. Bennett:
- Yes. The capital allocation is dynamic. And you've seen in the last six months, us use capital for several different sources and buying back bonds was certainly one. We bought back $350 million bonds for cash. We've also had another $126 million bonds convert to equity as part of our convert. So I don't think we'll use all our cash or all of our availability to buy back bonds, nor will we use it all for CapEx, nor will we use it all for acquisitions. I think we've shown a balanced approach between all three of those. And, Adam, we do have some limitations on the amount of cash we can use.
- Julian Mark Bott:
- That's right. We just increased actually in our bank covenant to $275 million of which we've already used $125 million, so we have about $150 million still available.
- Adam Leight:
- Okay. And then lastly, I guess, in the history of this company, you've been β you and your predecessors have been in various basins and plays. How do we think about this foray into Colorado versus other moves you might anticipate making in the near term, near and intermediate term?
- James D. Bennett:
- Yeah, Adam, I can't comment what happened seven years and five years ago. This is a different team than we've had and a different strategy. I think much more focused. You've seen us hone in on the Mid-Continent, define our focus area and stick to our knittings there. We've been very deliberate about any additional steps we would take in terms of adding on assets or acquisitions. We don't do acquisitions for acquisitions' sake. We look at things all the time, and we picked this one because we think it is the exact right fit. So this is not a foray. It's very targeted and very strategic. And I would say, on that point, with the North Park asset and our Mid-Continent position, we're pretty full in terms of what the team has to execute and deliver on right now.
- Adam Leight:
- Great. Thanks, everybody.
- Operator:
- Your next question comes from the line of Charles Meade from Johnson Rice. Your line is open.
- Charles A. Meade:
- Morning, James, and to the rest of your team there.
- James D. Bennett:
- Thanks, Charles.
- Charles A. Meade:
- I recognize that there's things that you guys can't talk about prospectively. But I'm wondering if you can β when I look at your balance sheet and this acquisition looks really intriguing and definitely adds a new leg for you guys. Can you comment on what your appetite would be for another similar-sized acquisition? Presumably, you've looked at a number of them beyond just this one.
- James D. Bennett:
- Sure, Charles. I'll never say never. But I was concluding up the comments with Adam just a second ago. I think between our 700,000 acres in the Mid-Continent, between this position and the North Park Basin, our appraisal/new venture team has a couple other concepts and tests they're working on. But we don't need another acquisition this size right now or anytime soon. We've got plenty to keep us and our teams busy for the near future.
- Charles A. Meade:
- Okay. If you addressed that, I must have missed it. And then, on these new assets, can you give us a vision for what success would look like in this new North Park asset at the end of 2016; the number of wells you drilled, production you think you'd get to, number of rigs, that kind of thing?
- James D. Bennett:
- Charles, I think we'll come out with full guidance on our Mid-Con assets and North Park Basin in the first quarter when we roll out 2016 guidance. We do plan to start with one rig, add a second rig in mid 2016. So I can say we'll drill β we'll spud approximately 25 wells in calendar year 2016. But in terms of any rates or exit rates, don't have that yet. We do anticipate that in terms of our D&C CapEx for the year, we'll spend about 30% of that on the North Park Basin next year.
- Charles A. Meade:
- Good. That's helpful color, James. It's really interesting and interesting to watch. So thanks a lot.
- James D. Bennett:
- Thank you, Charles.
- Operator:
- Your next question comes from the line of Tarek Hamid from JPMorgan. Your line is open.
- Tarek Hamid:
- Good morning, guys.
- James D. Bennett:
- Good morning.
- Tarek Hamid:
- On the North Park asset, do you have enough gathering and takeaway capacity there for your drilling plans in 2016? And if not, could you sort of give us a sense of how much capital is going have to go into midstream?
- James D. Bennett:
- Sure. On the crude side, we are trucking the crude to nearby refineries and other endpoints. We anticipate continuing that for the near term. We do have a second phase which would call for pipeline takeaway capacity, that's a little ways off, but we do have a plan there. We'll also be talking to other midstream providers and exploring some other solutions. But, again, the crude's trucked right now. For gas, we have again kind of a two-phase implementation. The first phase is just to gather gas at a central facility to capture the NGLs. The second phase, later on, would be a pipeline out into the DJ Basin. There are also some other alternatives to getting some gas to some of the local small towns there to sell. But I would note that gas is a very small component, about 10% of the reserves here. So 82% oil, 90% liquids, and with a small 10% gas.
- Tarek Hamid:
- Thanks. Any sense of what the capital associated with that's going to be next year or is it just a small enough number, we shouldn't worry about it?
- James D. Bennett:
- It's a small enough number next year. And when we come out with full guidance, we'll roll out kind of a full multiyear pipeline or infrastructure CapEx to the extent that's needed. But again, given our pace of development, we have a lot of time to get into the real capital or the meat of the infrastructure.
- Tarek Hamid:
- Okay. And then following on a little bit on Adam's earlier question, as you think about sort of capital allocation between balancing the Miss Lime between the Niobrara. How much of that decision now is driven by a desire to go more oily given what's happened with gas prices over last year, versus thinking that this is sort of a better use of capital than the legacy Miss Lime acreage?
- James D. Bennett:
- As we show on the presentation deck, at today's prices, they're very close in terms of competing for capital. Now, that could change quickly. It could change with $5 move in commodity prices. It could change with driving this well cost down even further or even getting our Niobrara well cost down further. But right now, again, I see it's a balanced program between the two. But I fully expect the program will be very dynamic and I think in the first and third quarters with β as we don't know what's going to happen with the market, it will change. I'm not sure exactly how it's going to change, could be more towards North Park Basin, could be towards buying back bonds, could be more towards some of these other creative β I think creative liability management tools we've done. But I think we've taken a very balanced approach to reducing debts, employing some creative liability management tactics, and adding to the asset base.
- Tarek Hamid:
- And just one last one for me. I mean, you guys highlighted the incremental senior debt capacity of the company. Sort of any thoughts around ultimately replacing the borrowing base with a fixed rate debt just getting off the borrowing base treadmill as you head into kind of the spring 2016 redeterminations?
- James D. Bennett:
- Sure. It's something we always have our eye on. We pay close attention to the capital markets and what opportunities are available for us there. No plan to do that right now, but if that market were to get robust, we would certainly consider it. Our revolver at $500 million was just reaffirmed in October. We have no first lien borrowings now and a pretty large base of PDP. So I feel pretty confident that that $500 million is very safe. But look, we all recognize the benefits of having first lien bond, if that opportunity's available, and we'll keep that as one of our options.
- Tarek Hamid:
- Great. Thank you very much.
- James D. Bennett:
- Your welcome.
- Operator:
- The next question comes from the line of Amer Tiwana from CRT Capital. Your line is open.
- Amer Tiwana:
- Hi, guys. My question is around the liquidity position. I know you sort of show that you have potential $1.86 billion. I guess, with this acquisition it comes down a little bit. How do you view your liquidity position, what sort of a runway do we have at this point in point, given current oil and gas prices? And can you talk about when you viewed this acquisition, relative to your liquidity runway, how did you think about it?
- James D. Bennett:
- Sure in terms of liquidity, your numbers are right, about $1.2 billion β or a $1.9 billion, taking into account our baskets available under the first lien and second lien. Don't plan to access those right now, but we certainly could if needed. In terms of a liquidity runway, that takes into account a myriad of different assumptions
- Amer Tiwana:
- Okay, great. And a follow-up question on your saltwater disposal system. Just wondering if you can talk about if there are any plans at this point in time? In terms of solutions, can you spin this out potentially to maybe the bondholders in order to maybe delever the company? Is that a possibility? I know the market probably for pure spin-off may not be as robust. So can you talk about that?
- James D. Bennett:
- Yeah, I think your last point, probably, how I would frame that up. The MLP market and the midstream and gathering market, when we put this business β we started to think about it almost two years ago, and then filed our S1 over a year ago, was in a much different spot than it is today. So I think the options available to us right in front of us, public market is challenging and choppy right now. We do have the S-1 on file and we'll continue to evaluate alternatives there. If that market heats up again and becomes open and active, we'll certainly pursue that. If there's M&A opportunities that maintain our operating flexibility, we'll avail ourselves to those. So we're keeping our options open there, but the initial thought was to take it public. But again, with those markets in the position they're in, that's not going to happen right now.
- Amer Tiwana:
- Thank you very much.
- James D. Bennett:
- Welcome.
- Operator:
- Your next question comes from the line of James Spicer from Wells Fargo. Your line is open.
- James A. Spicer:
- Hi, good morning. Just a clarification to start with on what the North Park acquisition does to your outlook for total CapEx in 2016. Is there some component that's additive to what would have been spent in 2016, or is the pie the same and this is purely competing for capital with the Mississippian?
- James D. Bennett:
- Hey, James, for 2016, we anticipate that CapEx will be lower than 2015, not ready to guide exactly what that is, we're still going through our year end budget process, but lower than 2015 and about a third of that to the North Park Basin on a D&C cost basis. In terms of whether this is additive or replacing capital to the Mid-Continent, we'll make that decision as the years go by. And as we dynamically allocate capital, that will be split, as we can tell right now, about 70/30 on a D&C basis.
- James A. Spicer:
- Okay, great. And then secondly, would you anticipate any borrowing base impact from this acquisition?
- James D. Bennett:
- Not, initially. With 1,000 Boe per day and the PDP value here, I think we'll drill some more wells, get some more PDP, and look to have a borrowing base impact, what, Julian, probably in the October timeframe?
- Julian Mark Bott:
- I would think so, yeah.
- James A. Spicer:
- Okay, okay. So, probably not until later next year. And then finally, are there additional opportunities in the North Park to acquire additional acreage or block up additional leasehold that you might be looking at?
- James D. Bennett:
- Not that we're looking at now. With the 136,000 acres, we have plenty to keep us busy. But look, if some things come up that are in and contiguous in our existing acreage position, we'll take a look at them, but we've got plenty to keep us busy right now.
- James A. Spicer:
- Sure. Okay. Thank you.
- James D. Bennett:
- Welcome.
- Operator:
- Your next question comes from the line of Joshua Gale from GMP Securities. Your line is open.
- Joshua Gale:
- Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I had a few questions about some of the infrastructure, the required for the acquired asset that I think you addressed, but just a few more questions on slide eight. What's the 30-day rate that you're using to get to the 311 MBoe? Is that just the 502 Boe a day average on the prior slides?
- James D. Bennett:
- Very close to that, yes. So, it's about, on a Boe basis, a little over 500 Boe per day on a 30-day IP, and that's about 450 Boepd (47
- Joshua Gale:
- Okay. And then what oil price differential are you assuming?
- Steve Turk:
- We're using, I believe, $11.60 right now. The market is moving out there just due to the fact that there's been so much capacity that's either built out or being built out in the DJ Basin, and more recent differentials were in the $8 to $10 range in the last few months, and we're guardedly optimistic that that ultimately will have a positive impact on our results.
- Joshua Gale:
- Right. And then one more question. I see you demonstrate the greater upside to IRRs and PV-10 with improving oil prices, but keeping gas flat at $2.50 and clearly that would be disadvantageous to the Miss on a comparative basis. I'm looking at the 2016 and 2017 strips right now and I see $53 oil and $2.85 gas, I'm just β is this acquisition part of just your view that you think there's more β you think there is more upside as compared to strip in oil than in gas, and that's how you want to sort of shape the assets of the company?
- James D. Bennett:
- I wouldn't read too much in that, Josh. We actually just tried to keep the slide on page eight with as little moving pieces as we could, just so it's easy to follow. But I wouldn't read that into a view that we are abandoning the gas component of the Miss.
- Joshua Gale:
- Okay. And then just sort of separate topic. On the liquidity, second lien indenture has a $950 million credit basket. So, is the $1 billion just the $950 plus $50 million of other liens basket?
- Julian Mark Bott:
- Yes.
- Joshua Gale:
- And then somewhat related, do you have a modified PV-10 figure as of this quarter, excluding the trust just so we can get a sense of how close you are to potentially growing those liquidity baskets if prices were to rise?
- Julian Mark Bott:
- So, the answer to the first question is yes, there's additional baskets that'll get you to that $1 billion.
- James D. Bennett:
- Hey, Josh, and on the PV-10, we gave out a midyear PV-10 number at the strip, but we'll hold off until year end until we roll forward all our year end bookings before we give a new PV-10 at the strip number. Last one we gave was at the midyear. But I don't think it's prudent to give a strip number on last year's reserves until you update it for year end pricing and year end changes.
- Joshua Gale:
- Okay, but you'll have an SEC and a modified as part of your annual disclosure?
- James D. Bennett:
- We'll have an SEC and a strip PV-10, yes.
- Joshua Gale:
- Great. Thank you.
- Operator:
- Your next question comes from the line of Steven Karpel from Credit Suisse. Your line is open. Steven Marc Karpel - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker) Good morning.
- Steve Turk:
- Morning.
- James D. Bennett:
- Morning. Steven Marc Karpel - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker) So, from listening to you discuss the acquisition, James, it seems like you had your BD guys looking at a bunch of deals. Can you β maybe from β was your directive to go outside of the Mid-Con and expand the focus outside of the Mid-Con?
- James D. Bennett:
- No, Steven. We've had a appraisal/new venture group for many years. They look at β test organic concepts. They look at extending the fields that we have. In fact they're responsible for finding the Chester and Woodford programs and they also look at new opportunities. But no, we didn't go out saying we need to be outside of the Mid-Con, and depending on how you define the Mid-Continent, we think this is in the Mid-Continent. You can call it the Rockies, but this is analogous to what we've done in Oklahoma and Kansas.
- Steve Turk:
- Yeah, I think there was more an emphasis on matching our core competencies and our skillsets to anything that we would consider acquiring. And we feel very strongly that our core competencies and skillsets will be applicable to the North Park Basin, so we're very excited about applying those there. Steven Marc Karpel - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker) And looking at this and looking at the large PUD (52
- James D. Bennett:
- We didn't. I think we thought it was prudent for us to acquire it like this, go in and do some development, drill some wells. Again, we're drilling 25 wells the first year. We have better economics and a better return for us bringing a partner in a little bit later, if we choose to do that. Steven Marc Karpel - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker) Understood. And then separately, Occidental, is there β remind us where you are in terms of process with them and your desire to rework that contract and if you've made any progress.
- James D. Bennett:
- Yes. In terms of OXY, we have an under-delivery penalty to them of about $35 million a year; we accrue that quarterly. That's about the extent of it. Any change in the contract or renegotiations, can't really comment on any of those. Steven Marc Karpel - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker) All I ask is then is that something you're working on potentially?
- James D. Bennett:
- I can't comment on something like that. We can't give specifics of any specific transactions we're working on. We look at stuff all the time. Is that it, Steven? Steven Marc Karpel - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker) Yes.
- James D. Bennett:
- Okay, thank you.
- Operator:
- Your next question comes from the line of Sean Sneeden from Oppenheimer. Your line is open.
- Sean M. Sneeden:
- Thank you for fitting me in here. James, maybe just to clarify your reserve comments, did the 5% reduction in PDPs factor in year-to-date drilling at all?
- James D. Bennett:
- No, no, that would be β if you just took year end 2014 reserves and adjusted them for estimated year end 2015 pricing, and the same comment on the undeveloped.
- Sean M. Sneeden:
- Okay. So just given the level of activity this year, how are you thinking about overall kind of PDP just kind of based off the prices you used there? Are you expecting that to be higher year-over-year?
- James D. Bennett:
- I really can't comment on that until we finish the year end process. We'll produce, just to help you with the math, about 30 million Boe β 30 million barrels this year β barrels of oil equivalent this year. And we started the year with over 500 million barrels, but we will have bookings, both PDP and PUDs. We'll really have to go through the detailed year end process, which the people are doing now, before we can give you a good answer to that.
- Sean M. Sneeden:
- Okay, that's fair enough. And maybe just kind of thinking about that in another light, but just giving the negative free cash flow generation here in the modified ACNTA test in the second lien, I guess kind of somewhat similar to Tarek's question but how are you thinking about using that capacity before it resets with the new reserve report at year end?
- James D. Bennett:
- Yeah, I can't really comment on any specific transactions or what we plan to do in terms of terming that out or accessing any of those baskets.
- Sean M. Sneeden:
- Okay. And then maybe just kind of lastly. In broad strokes about 16% (55
- James D. Bennett:
- Yes, it's a fair question. And we said this in the last call. We're not managing production for growth or decline β a specific decline or to keep it flat at this stage. Given where we are with commodity prices, we're making sure we're drilling economic in the highest return projects that meet our hurdles. So if that entails a rig program that shows a decline in production, we might have to live with that for a while. I would note that over time, the reserve base, the production base will flatten out and we've got about a 35% first year decline and 25% in 2015 (56
- Sean M. Sneeden:
- Okay, that's helpful. Thank you very much.
- James D. Bennett:
- You're welcome.
- Operator:
- Your next question comes from the line of Gregg Brody from Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is open.
- Gregg Brody:
- Good morning, guys.
- James D. Bennett:
- Morning.
- Gregg Brody:
- Just on the acquisition, could you give us a little background as to why the seller was in the market, like what drove them selling at this time?
- James D. Bennett:
- Yeah, I can't really comment on that. This was owned by -funded by Yorktown Partners and I can't really comment on what their specifics were in terms of why they divested the asset.
- Gregg Brody:
- But there was a process?
- James D. Bennett:
- There was a process, I believe, about a year ago, but it had concluded right about the time the crude collapsed, December 1. So after that, no there was not a process. This was kind of a negotiated transaction.
- Gregg Brody:
- And then when you look at β you mentioned you have 12 wells with production history. What's the length of that production history and then what's your β are there any other offset operators that help you with the (57
- James D. Bennett:
- Sure, there's 16 wells and we outline them on page five, seven of those were drilled by EOG between 2007 and 2010, the remaining nine were drilled by the seller. And you could note the IP rates on all nine of those wells, it was a little over 500 Boe per day. On the last six wells, which had larger stimulations, over 1,000 pounds per foot and more stages, the IP rate was about 577 Boe per day. In terms of offset operators, no, there really aren't in the North Park Basin, although there are a large number in the Niobrara just to the East of the DJ Basin.
- Gregg Brody:
- Yes. And then the drilling and completion costs, are those your estimates or that's what the company's been running at right now?
- Steve Turk:
- Our drilling and completion estimates were developed internally. We valued the property using drilling costs of about $5 million starting in the first year going down to $4 million and successive drops beyond that. And we have done some very extensive research on this capping the knowledge of the vendor community there and of the other operators that are operating similar assets in the DJ Basin. And clearly we think these estimates fall right in line with where we should be. And we also feel that we'll ramp up the learning curve very quickly with our expertise in extended lateral drilling and in pad drilling. So we're excited to undertake this project and expect improving results very quickly as far as costs go in the first year.
- James D. Bennett:
- And I think if you look at the DJ, they're drilling their wells from anywhere from six days to 10 days spud to rig release. We start out with a conservative assumption of 20 days just on the initial wells to get up the learning curve, and then assume we get down to about 15 days.
- Gregg Brody:
- The $3.6 million you're showing in your economics here, that seems to be a little lower than the (01
- James D. Bennett:
- Yeah, once we get our days down. Yeah, we put, on the first couple wells, we assume a little higher, $5 million, in terms of just getting up a learning curve and understanding the area. We assume those will take about 20 days, and we quickly get down to 15 days, which there you would be at that sub $4 million level.
- Gregg Brody:
- And then just I know you've talked about this in Miss and Tarek touched on this, is there any other additional costs we should be thinking about? It sounds like midstream, there isn't much. Any facilities or anything like that we're not talking about in this number?
- James D. Bennett:
- The surface facilities are all built into the $3.6 million. We will have some crude gathering as we truck the crude and build the crude gathering system, we will have some midstream and crude gathering lines. But the water disposal here is minimal, it's about a 30% water cut.
- Gregg Brody:
- Got it. And just the last question for you. Just the liability management, so the original target of $1 billion of debt reduction, I think you'd said in the past, that it was a net number that you were thinking about. Seeing you've used cash for acquisitions, a few other things, is that still the number that you're targeting or is there some updated number you can provide for us?
- Julian Mark Bott:
- Oh, I think again, James previously had indicated $1 billion and from the $975 million we've addressed, I think we've kind of got to that point and obviously we're not going to stop here. I think that as we look going forward, the correct capitalization is dependent on so many variables with price, development activity. So we are excited about the assets we have, and we will continue to proactively reduce the debt levels. So that we ultimately get to a point where we're rightsized for our company. So $1 billion done but still much more to go.
- Gregg Brody:
- I appreciate the color, guys. Thank you very much.
- Julian Mark Bott:
- You're welcome.
- Operator:
- And there are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call back to Mr. Bennett for closing remarks.
- James D. Bennett:
- Thank you, everyone, and thanks for the thoughtful questions and paying attention to the story. We've done a lot, I think, this year. You could be hard pressed to find another one of our peers that's made as many actions as we have on the operations, the liability management, and adding substantial resources to our existing asset base. We look forward to continuing discussions in the next couple quarters. Thank you.
- Operator:
- Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. And you may now disconnect.
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