Trip.com Group Limited
Q4 2020 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Trip.com Group 2020 Q4 Earnings Conference Call. All participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by a question-and-answer session. I would now like to hand the conference over to Michelle Qi, Senior Director. Please go ahead.
- Michelle Qi:
- Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to Trip.com Group's 2020 Q4 earnings conference call. Joining me today on the call are Mr. James Liang, Executive Chairman of the Board; Ms. Jane Sun, Chief Executive Officer; and Ms. Cindy Wang, Chief Financial Officer.
- James Liang:
- Thank you, Michelle. Thank you everyone for joining us on the call today. Looking back at 2020, it was a year filled with both challenges and opportunities. Despite the negative impact of pandemic, we have continued to innovate our products, improve our service and strengthening collaboration with our partners. This result demonstrated our strong resilience and helped to make us stronger as a company. As a result, we further gain market share across all product lines, as domestic channel maintained a strong recovery momentum throughout the year. We are fully prepared to take additional market share in the upcoming global recovery. Going forward, we will continue to focus on the domestic markets in terms of supply chain, product innovation, content capabilities, quality and technology. At the same time, we are pushing ahead with our global ambition for international travel recovery and seeking for opportunities in the long run. Our focused efforts have not only in our products gained additional market shares during the pandemic, but also laid a solid foundation for new growth drivers beyond COVID. Today, I would like to shed some light on the latter. First of all, product supply chain is our core competence which have built over the decades of operation. Therefore, we are best positioned to expand the breadth and depth of our product offerings to capture users evolving demand, such as the unique and in-depth experiences as alternatives for outbound travel, and short-haul and the staycation trips, which are incremental to the typical long-haul sites. This is a near-term goal that's already started to bear fruit. We are glad to see reservation for short-haul travel and in-destination activities achieved strong year-over-year growth despite industry fluctuations in the past winter.
- Jane Sun:
- Thanks, James. Good morning everyone. I would like to start with a quick overview of Q4 and the full year of 2020. Despite the industry fluctuations and a weaker seasonality in the winter in Q4. we are glad to see that Trip.com Group delivered solid performance and consistently outgrow the industry average across the product lines. Total net revenue saw a further narrowed year-over-year decline in Q4 to 40%. As domestic accommodation reservation, air ticketing business, ground transportation and other domestic travel products recovered nicely in Q4. In addition, we achieved positive non-GAAP profit margin of 10% in the fourth quarter. On a full year basis, our core OTA brands delivered GMV of RMB395 billion, or USD61 billion, again leading the industry worldwide. For full year 2020, thanks to our efficiency improvement and a strong cost control, we were able to achieve 2% non-GAAP operating profit margin.
- Cindy Wang:
- Thanks, Jane. Thanks everyone. For the fourth quarter of 2020, Trip.com Group reported net revenue of RMB5 billion, representing a 40% decrease from the same period in 2019. The further narrowed decline reflects a continued recovery of our China domestic market, especially for short-haul and staycations. I'd like to first go through some business highlights that drives the recovery of our domestic revenues. Accommodation reservations for China domestic market sustained positive growth in Q4 with mid-to-high end hotel reservations growing at double digits, inter-province hotel GMV grew by more than 20%. Domestic air revenue maintained positive year-over-year growth in Q4, despite the higher base in a previous year with transportation bookings for early Chinese New Year holiday. Reservations for domestic in destination activities achieved a strong growth during the quarter, mainly driven by short-haul trips. Recovery for domestic package product was slower due to industry fluctuations with small outbreaks of COVID cases in this quarter.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Your first question comes from Alex Yao from J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
- Alex Yao:
- Thank you, management for taking my question. So I have a question on the content strategy, James, you talked briefly on your content strategy in the prepared remarks. Can you elaborate a bit more on the strategy, particularly from competition perspective, how do you plan to compete against the more established content platforms with exposure to travel such as Xiaohongshu and Douyin? Thank you.
- James Liang:
- Yes. First, we are the largest travel transaction platform in China. So many of our users are they used to writing authentic reviews and travel journals platform. The more importantly strong product and connection capability allows to make content to transaction conversion easy and frictionless. For example, our live stream channel delivers the highest conversion rate in travel industry last year. So for these reasons we have competency that we will be one of the golden platforms for users, the seatbelt travel inspirations and value for in a shorter and long haul travel demand.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Your next question comes from Thomas Chong from Jefferies. Please go ahead.
- Thomas Chong:
- Hi, good morning. Thanks management for taking my questions and congratulations on the recovery after Chinese New Year. My question is more about the competitive landscape in lower tier cities. Can management talks about the pricing trend in lower tier cities, as well as our strategy in lower tier cities this year. Thank you.
- Jane Sun:
- Yes. For the lower tier cities, we are putting lots of airports fully utilizing the comprehensiveness of our platform. First of all, our transportation products offer the links for us to further penetrate into the low tier cities and our cross sell capability enable us to cross sell all the products our platform. Secondly, not only we have the online platform, we also have thousands of the lower tier cities offline stores, which enable us also to sell products in these cities. We will be able to input even more products, including hotel, transportation products, package tours, local activities into these offline stores as well to enable us to further penetrate into these cities. And certainly, because of the upcoming trend, we are also making sure our product is very competitive in terms of coverage, as well as the pricing to make sure the people in the cities get the best deal when they select products from different product align. So our efforts for the lower tier cities is going to be strengthened. And also we have special teams to look at specific markets such as for people who are retired, et cetera, these segments also presents different opportunities for our new businesses. Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Your next question comes from Ronald Keung from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
- Ronald Keung:
- Thank you. Thank you, James, Jane, Cindy and Michelle. I guess my question kind of follows on the competitive landscape, particularly want to hear about the hotel, given very good performance you mentioned 15 percentage points about the industry. I see that should be the overall industry. And how do we see that amongst the online players with more booking online, I see. So what is online penetration for hotel β for the overall industry now for online penetration and between say ourselves plus our associates hotel, how do we see ourselves doing amongst within the online trend maybe versus other players, including the and other players within the online space. Thank you.
- Jane Sun:
- For the hotel business, the majority of the hotel booking still is offline. So with the concerted efforts by every player, there are more volumes moving online. And we are gaining lots of shares through this movement. As we discussed from lower tier, from mid to high-end, we are outpacing the industry of growth by 15% gaining market share in that segment. In the lower tier cities, we're also putting concerted efforts to make sure our price is the best penetrating into the lower tier cities. And certainly, we also offer a comprehensive one-stop shopping platform to everyone who are interested in using our platform to travel. So all these efforts give us the advantage leading the industry growth.
- Ronald Keung:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Your next question comes from Binnie Wong from HSBC. Please go ahead.
- Binnie Wong:
- Hi, good morning management. Thank you for taking my question. I have two questions here and one β two short questions. One, is there also a follow-up on the competitive landscape in the domestic market. We understand that some of your peers are stepping up subsidies, right. And especially, even like to the hotel right on the hotel side. So how do we see that will trend in terms of the online subsidies, like, be able to step up on that, especially, we also see sales and marketing step up in the fourth quarter? And then also, I guess your thought in terms of our cross-selling efforts, right? It terms of like when you get like our retention and also the cross-selling, any metrics that you can share with us β for us to see in terms of our user retention and also cross-selling there'll be very helpful, for us to better understand our strategy for the year. Thank you.
- Cindy Wang:
- Yes. With regard to the competition, I think our strategy is, as Jane explained, our strategy is quite consistent and also time proven. For the high-end hotels, price subsidy have improved ineffective. We keep focusing on strengthening our core competence in the inventory service, as well as the content, especially during the pandemic. We not only strengthened our collaborations with our hotel partners by launching a broader range of room and now offerings at very attractive prices, but also develop the pre-order offerings, which allow our users to locking in a competitive pricing while enjoy a great flexibilities in determining the actual travel date. We also launch that channels like a short-haul holidays and fresh sale to help hotels run targeted marketing. These are β these kind of efforts to some extent, further strengthening our strategic partnership with almost all the major mid to high end hotels in the China market. Therefore, our market share increased significantly against tier players. And we are very confident that we will continue to leading the edge. For the low end hotel, in this segment, we did notice that customers tend to be more price sensitive. Therefore, we will continue to meet the price competitiveness in the targeted market and acquire new users was competitive by lower end hotels. We also work very closely with our third-party partners, especially in the tier 4 and tier 5 cities to help our inventory bull market share against appears in this segment. As our low end hotel business has very limited contribution to our total revenue, as well as the net profit. Any competition in this area have limited impact to group level financial performance. In the long run, our value proposition is a much more sustainable for hotels as we focus on bringing new customers and incremental demand from other places, instead of serving as just inserted paid channel to great hotels existing local demand online.
- Binnie Wong:
- Okay. Thank you. And I just have quick follow-up also on the margin side, if we think about like the margin, because 3Q was very good margins and then 4Q is because of seasonality and also our high investment. In structural positive drivers, we should expect in 2021 on the market side, thank you.
- Cindy Wang:
- Yes. The total non-GAAP cost and operating expenses decreased around 39% yield a year in Q4, largely β since to our largely flexible cost expensive structure and their efficient operating management. During the past year, we have further streamlined our operation of cross business lines, in addition to certain adjustments related to COVID. In addition, our improvements, our content and cross-selling have further lift marketing efficiency. Our non-GAAP sales and marketing expenses deep increased now in a Q. Looking forward in 2021, we expect modest increase in our personnel expenses in 2021, while we did expect that total headcount will largely be stable, especially for our core businesses. Sales and marketing expenses are largely discretional and be adjusted in accordance with our business recovery. And we will continue to adapt and how I driven strategy. We believe our improvement on content and cross selling will help improve our marketing efficiency. But at the same time, we will also reserve certain budgets in the short-term to develop our strategic β long-term strategic project, for example, the content ecosystem and to prepare for the recovery and our potential growth in the international market.
- Binnie Wong:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Your next question comes from Jed Kelly from Oppenheimer. Please go ahead.
- Jed Kelly:
- Good morning management. Thank you for taking my questions. Just sort of looking like big picture, the global OTAs and online travel, there's a lot of investor enthusiasm. These companies are going to emerge from the pandemic with structurally higher margins. Do you see that's the case for you? Do you think you can come out of this with higher margins? Thank you.
- Jane Sun:
- Yes. As I explained, I think in terms of the long-term margin, we still think, although in the very short-term, because of the volatility on the top line. We β especially for the Q1, as well as the 2021 we probably cannot provide at this moment clear guidance in terms of the margin. But in the long run we still think the original 20% to 30% margin is very achievable for us. Compared with international peers in terms of sales and marketing efficiencies, Trip.com probably is the most efficient players in the markets, because we as always we focus on gaining market share by growing our own customer, especially the mobile app customers and we will continue to focus on this. And in addition, this year because of the pandemic we also noticed the content product will help us significantly improve our conversion rates as well as the stickiness of our users. Therefore, we think we can have some leverage, especially compared with the global peers on the sales and marketing side. Thank you.
- Jed Kelly:
- Great.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Your next question comes from James Lee from Mizuho. Please go ahead.
- James Lee:
- Great. Thanks for taking my question. Jane, maybe can β is there any way you can help us understand maybe some of the policy support for the travel industry that's coming up this year? And what kind of signs should we look for possible lifting in restriction for outbound travel? Should we think about those signs as a widely available vaccine in Asian countries or where the government going to consider reestablishment of the green channel that we talked about earlier? And also kind of as we look beyond the pandemic right now, do you have a sense, when you talk to hotel partners in general, they'll rely more on the OTAs? Certainly we saw that trends in the U.S. as OTA gained market share post the financial crisis? Just curious what you're thinking there. Thanks.
- Jane Sun:
- Thanks, James. Let me illustrate the answers in a couple of layers. First of all, for domestic travel, during the January and February timeframe, during the winter season there were small outbreaks of the virus. So we stay put for the whole country, there were quickly content there's more outbreaks. And after the Chinese New Year, we have seen very good recovery for domestic travel. So we expect the Chinese domestic travel will have a very strong rebound in this year. And our team is very well prepared in terms of service capability, content generation, our technology investment, so we are very positive in for recovery for the Chinese domestic travel. Secondarily, with the vaccine is being adopted by more and more countries, there were a couple of things we would like to see. First of all, for medical experts across the world, they need to form a consensus in terms of β for the people who have taken medicines β taken vaccines, how long do they need to be quarantined when they return to their home country or when they enter into another country, if any. Secondly, with the consensus built by the global medical experts, every country will form their policy in terms of opening up of green lanes, opening up of special channels for travelers. And totally, once the countries, every country has their policies ready, OTAs with a strong investment in technology, we will make sure the cross-borders information as well as the service capability is coupled with the policy in-force by every country. And make sure all the information and services is very well supporting our customers when they go across. So our team is making the right investment in terms of information assimilation, in terms of the technology capability to support our customers. Now looking into different continents, we believe China in most nations controlled the virus very well, so the domestic travel is leading the recovery among all the global players. And secondarily, many countries in Asia have also demonstrated their abilities to well control the virus, countries, such as Singapore, Japan, Korea have done very well. So we expect these countries in domestic will recover very well. And we're hopeful that with the effectiveness of the vaccine, we'll be able to see some kind of recovery in green lanes, in limited travel as the test of the water leading the recovery for cross-border transactions. Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Your next question comes from Natalie Wu from Haitong International. Please go ahead.
- Natalie Wu:
- Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Just to follow up with the sales and marketing question. I want to get a rough sense of a propelled discussion in marketing plan in the first half of this year given your full recovery of domestic business posted Chinese New Year. And I wonder if there's any change of sales and marketing spending, how I relate it to the criteria loosening or tightening across different channels during the pandemic? Also wondering, if you can give us an update of your app MAU last year and how much of that is newly acquired, first time user and if you have observed any demographic features and cohorts that will be grateful β that will be great? Thank you.
- Jane Sun:
- Thank you, Natalie. The sales and marketing expenses for us are largely discretional and we will continuously monitor our returns based on our ROI and the criteria is pretty consistent, not loosening or tightening our ROI threshold, but we were swiftly adjusted our sales and marketing budget based purely on the return. And starting, as we explained, starting from last year, we did notice that the content as well as the content including the, for example the live streaming as well as the fresh sales, significantly help us to improve our conversion rate. Therefore our overall marketing efficiencies has been improved. And moving into 2021, we will continuously to make investment in our content product and hopefully our marketing efficiencies will continuously improving. Sorry. What's your second question?
- Natalie Wu:
- About new users, firstly, it's about your app MAU, just wondering if you can give us an update of your app MAU last year? And how much of that is β those like a newly acquired first time user? And also then if there's any new demographic feature or user cohort related with the new user?
- Jane Sun:
- Yes. Our app MAU has been quite consistently increasing, especially with more and more content in our app. We did notice the stickiness of our users increased significantly. In terms of new users, we did notice that more and more percentage of our new users coming from the lower tier cities, especially if coming from the third, fourth, as well as five tier cities. They may not make booking at the first time, but they will spend some time looking at the content that we provide on the app at the beginning.
- Natalie Wu:
- Got it. Thank you.
- Jane Sun:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Your next question comes from Alex Poon from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
- Alex Poon:
- Thanks management for taking my question. My question is mainly related to the overall new revenue opportunities coming out of COVID. In a post-COVID world, you mentioned actually many things, particularly I want to understand the content strategies and how this new content strategy can drive up the long-term conversion paying user conversion. And also you talk about many other things, actually like advertising, short hauls, vacation, local attraction, cross selling, low tier city, efficient marketing, high online penetration. So, trying to understand on the overall basis, not just domestic marketing, also the international opportunities, how much β how should we quantify all these new revenue opportunities as we go out of COVID? Thank you very much.
- James Liang:
- Yes. I think this is a new space for us. We traditionally only wasted most of our money from commission. So it's really coming out of the sales budgets of airlines, destinations, and hotels. Of course, as we know, they also have a marketing budget and branding budget, probably just as large and the same order of magnitude, and just as a large sales budgets. So this is the area that we hope to through our marketing and platform and our content capability to be able to tap into near future.
- Jane Sun:
- Yes. In addition, as we have seen, China's infrastructure has been developed quite significantly penetrating into many areas and China is a very big country. So during the lockdown period, James and I and our team have been visiting different provinces and there are great potential leading our customers, not only to the most the famous attractions, but also many, many other newly developed attractions. So the vacation, local attractions represents new opportunities for us to gain market share. And lastly, I think, we are also be very prepared to further taking market share when the cross-border transaction opens. I think this is a great opportunity almost every country or the travel industry related job opportunities being depressed during this pandemic. So there is a search of the demand for us to drive the volume into this area. So we are working very closely with the players in the global places to make sure once the vaccine is adopted, once the cross-border transaction take place, we'll be very well-prepared to bring the Chinese customers into these areas.
- Alex Poon:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Your next question comes from Brian Gong from Citigroup. Please go ahead.
- Brian Gong:
- Yes, thanks management for taking my questions. So my question is regarding the margins. So we have done a lot of, in low cost saving measures in secondary intelligently to which also reflected in our financials. So my question is, if we assume full recovery of auto bond and the international travel and a decent growth on domestic travel, say in 2022 or 2023. What would our operating margin be under that scenario compared to pre-COVID-19 level? Yes, thank you.
- Cindy Wang:
- Yes, we, although there are some of volatilities in the margins due to the COVID, but in general, we still targeting at the 20% to 30%, non GAAP operating margin, which we think is very achievable if everything resumed normal. Thank you.
- Jane Sun:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Your next question comes from Tian Hou from T.H. Capital. Please go ahead. Apologies. That question has disconnected. That does conclude our time for questions. I would now like to hand the conference back to Senior Director, Michelle Qi.
- Tian Hou:
- Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello.
- Operator:
- Get back.
- Jane Sun:
- Tian? Hi, Tian
- Cindy Wang:
- Hi, Tian.
- Tian Hou:
- I was muted, to be plied. Okay. So, okay. This is the question. So first I'd say congratulations on Q4, this is really not easy to bring back top line, bottom line back to almost normal. So as the company refocus the business to domestic. I do believe domestic is going to be really great, 2021. So the company did mention a lots of possibilities. So in the short haul and the high frequency product in the travel market, now what's the company's plan to develop into it and what you saw advantage that is my question. So, I'm very excited for the two products. So I want to know more detail about that. Thank you.
- Jane Sun:
- Thank you, Tian. First of all, I think we β as we very focused on the travel verticals, all the content will be more relevant for our customers look for their, for example, we can get away of vacations and same tours. And secondly, thanks to our very strong product team, our short haul vacation product, especially the hotel-related packages of very competitive, insurance, of both pricing, as well as the coverage. Our live streaming and the special deals channels have become the go-to platform for travelers that seek value for money deals. The travel market is immense and we are confident that our growth potential will be further a lot to especially in the quality travel markets segment. Thank you.
- Tian Hou:
- Okay. Thank you. Thank you. That does conclude our time for questions. I would now like to hand the conference back to Senior Director, Michelle Qi.
- Michelle Qi:
- Thank you. Thanks everyone for joining us today. You can find the transcript and webcast of todayβs call on investors.trip.com. We look forward to speaking with you on the first quarter 2021 earnings call. Thank you and have a good day.
- Jane Sun:
- Thank you very much.
- Cindy Wang:
- Thank you.
- James Liang:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- That does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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