UP Fintech Holding Limited
Q4 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

Published: 26 Mar 2021

[Operator:]

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to UP Fintech Holding Limited Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. There will be a presentation followed by question-and-answer session. I must advise you that this conference is being recorded today, Friday, March 26, 2021. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Mr. Clark S. Soucy. Thank you. Please go ahead.

[Clark Soucy:]

Thank you, operator. Hello, everyone and thank you for joining us for the call today. UP Fintech Holding Limited’s fourth quarter 2020 earnings release was distributed earlier today and is available on our IR website at ir.itiger.com as well as Globe Newswire services.

[Wu Tianhua:]

Good day, everyone and I appreciate your attendance in Tiger Brokers fourth quarter 2020 earnings conference call. In the fourth quarter, our operating and financial metrics exhibited solid improvement due to a surge in new clients as well as enhancements to our platform and services. In the fourth quarter, total revenue was $47.2 million, 2.4x compared to that of the same period last year and a new all-time high. Tiger’s operating efficiency and profitability continue to improve. Non-GAAP net income was $10.3 million in the fourth quarter, nearly 30x the non-GAAP net income in the same quarter last year. In addition, I am pleased to report that we added 44,000 new funded accounts this quarter nearly quadruple the number from the same period last year. Total funded accounts reached 259,000 by the end of 2020 more than double that of 2019. Growth in client assets was outstanding. Total account balance reached $16 billion more than triple that of the fourth quarter of 2019 and 46.2% higher than the third quarter of 2020. Overall, for 2020, total revenue was $138 million more than double versus 2019. We were profitable for the first time on a yearly basis. Non-GAAP net income was $22.3 million in 2020, a big improvement from a non-GAAP loss of $1.8 million in 2019.

[John Zeng:]

Hello, everyone. Thanks for joining the call. So, let me go through our financial performance for the fourth quarter. All numbers are in USD. Total revenues were $47.2 million this quarter, increased 137% from the same quarter of last year. The increase was due to bigger user base as more people entrust us with their assets and a more active market backdrop. Within the total revenue, commission increased 245% from last year to reach $25.2 million. Interest-related income, which combines financial service fee and interest income, was $13.3 million, an increase of 53% from last year. Other revenue, mostly revenue from our investment banking business, increased 118% from last year to $8.7 million. Interest expense increased to $4.3 million from $1.5 million last year as we have more consolidated account customers. Net revenue after interest expense was $43 million, an increase of 135% from the same quarter last year. Now on the cost, execution and clearing expense were $4.2 million increased to 363% year-over-year due to increase in user base and more engaged trading activities. The increase in user base also increased communication and market data expense by 103% to $3.9 million. Employee compensation increased 47% to $15.5 million as we keep adding headcount, especially in R&D and product to support our global expansion. As a result of headcount increase, our occupancy expense increased 12% to $1.3 million. SG&A also increased 70% to $4.8 million year-over-year. Marketing expense were $6.5 million this quarter, an increase of 277% from same quarter last year. We will keep spending in branding and customer acquisition to accompany our internationalization. Total operating costs were $36.3 million, an increase of 90% from same quarter last year. As a result, our net income was $8.5 million this quarter. Non-GAAP net income, which excludes share-based compensation, was $10.3 million this quarter, 30x the non-GAAP net income in the same quarter of last year. Now, I have concluded our presentation. Operator, please open the line for Q&A. Thanks.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our first question comes from Jacky Zuo from China Renaissance. Please ask your question.

[Jacky Zuo:]

Hi, management. Thanks for taking my questions. I have two questions. Number one is about our guidance. I heard we expect 350,000 new paying users for this year, just want to understand the drivers behind this guidance, what is trend in the first quarter this year? And we also mentioned 50% of it will come from overseas markets, so can give us more details in terms of breakdown of like Singapore, U.S. and other countries? And second question is about our Singapore business, I saw that actually entered Singapore in March. Do we expect some impact from this in terms of our growth and how do we deal with intensifying competition in Singapore? Thank you.

[Wu Tianhua:]

Thanks, Jacky. So, let me quickly translate Tianhua’s answer for your first question. So, let me put it this way. So, traditionally, Tiger’s users mostly are onshore Chinese. So, starting from last year, we started to onboard Singapore clients so far is showing good results. So this year, we will expand in the U.S. and Australia. So on a high level, more geographic expansion and our experience in Singapore give us the confidence to acquire more users this year. So, we understand investors are getting nervous recently about the market this year. So, the 350,000 guidance is not based on our high growth in 2020, instead we used 2019 data when market activity was much lower as our base case. So, in 2019, each quarter we add up 42,000 customer accounts. So, assuming U.S. and Australia, we will gradually reach their number this year, combining with Singapore, we feel pretty comfortable each quarter we will have at least 100,000 new customer accounts from offshore investors. And based on our experience, offshore clients have much higher customer accounts to fund their account conversion, typically loss of 60%, so this translates to around 60,000 funded accounts each quarter from offshore. And we are confident onshore clients and ESOP also add another 20,000 to 30,000 funded accounts each quarter. So combining that, we feel pretty confident we can reach our guidance of 350,000 funded accounts this year. Okay. So regarding Singapore, so there will be some competition, but we don’t think it’s a zero-sum game, because we feel the TAM in Singapore is still very big for us to grab. So, if you look at Singapore’s existing market, based on CDP data, there are about 1.3 million accounts that trade Singapore local stocks and most of them still prefer to place order by phone. And this is a market we haven’t really penetrated yet. So currently, Tiger, our focus is on the incremental market, the younger generation, the younger Singaporeans similar to our Chinese users, who is more interested in U.S. or Hong Kong stock and this incremental market is showing good momentum. So, we will tap into the existing market by adding more local products on our platform such as and giving Singapore so we can provide better service and acquire more users from both market segments. Thanks.

[Jacky Zuo:]

Thank you.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our next question comes from Hui Han from CICC. Please ask the question.

[Hui Han:]

Hi, management. Thanks for taking my questions. I am Hui Han from CICC. And firstly, congratulate on the exciting results we have achieved. And I have two questions here. The first one is about our growing customers. We see a total of 44,000 funded accounts added in this quarter and the total pay on customers has reached nearly 260,000 by 2020, but we also see the world of higher market environments gratefully. I am wondering first it will be – if it’s the bear market since the second quarter then what measures will you take on customer acquisition and how to increase the customer activeness? And on the second question is regarding on our corporate business, in this quarter, we see a record growth of new ESOP clients, with 35 newly added and existing – most of our major competitors, which is management’s share more with us that’s why we have grown so rapidly on the ESOP in the recent years and what are our unique advantages? Thank you.

[Wu Tianhua:]

Okay. So, thanks for your questions. To answer your first one, so since our inception 7 years ago, we have experienced quite a few market volatility. So, we have experienced on that. So, in general for our business, especially for the online broker business, we tend to have higher retention, so quarterly retention rates around 98% through our operating history like how do we increase user activities and keep the retention. So for the past year, we actually have been spending quite a resource to optimize our online community operation. So far, we have seen positive results. For example, our content consumer or content creators, in general, their retention rate will be 20% higher than rest of the users. Good content can also help users to make decision and increase trading activities. On average, content users’ trading activity will more than double. If you log on to Tiger community, you can see when our offshore clients, they are actually more engaging in our community, we have seen more and more English posts in our community, which is it’s a good progress we think may we will keep investing. And also for brokers business, volatility in certain extent is good for us. So for example, in first quarter last year, even doing big corrections, user engagements were still pretty high. We are thinking about throughout this year given the media coverage and also the transparency of information, we think the market volatility will continue. In the worst case scenario, I’d say if it’s a bear market, we also have more wealth management product for our users. For example, we are adding mutual fund automatic investment plan, we also have cash management product and cash costs. So, I think those wealth management product will help our users to manage their investment during bear markets.

[Hui Han:]

Thank you.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Our next question comes from Hanyang Wang from 86Research. Please ask your question.

[Hanyang Wang:]

Okay. Let me thank you for my questions. I have three questions. The first one is regarding on the Hong Kong license, you mentioned the share of the progress of our Hong Kong build its license application? Second question is about our international business. So, you mentioned the increase of the marketing expense was primarily due to global expansion. Could you share the customization costs per paying client in China, Hong Kong overseas market and how we should look at the revenue contribution from the overseas market after 25 years? And my third question is on commission rate, in my calculation our commission would increase sequentially during the quarter, any color for that would be helpful? Thank you.

[Wu Tianhua:]

So, to answer your question on internationalization, so we are very committed and are optimistic about our global expansion strategy, because first of all it’s my – we see the global expansion strategy is a good way for us to increase the funded accounts, our customer account to funded account conversion. Like we mentioned earlier, a lot of those regions, the conversion rate can’t be more than 50% and I am 60%, 70%. So in this way, this will give us big tailwinds once we generate good customers offshore and build a good momentum, you can’t help us to reach over 1 million funded account customers in the near future. So, our goal is to become a one stop investment platform for global investors, no matter where they are based. So, we are very committed to internationalization. And in addition to the operating data growth by internationalization, we feel by acquiring more investors offshore we will also help us to generate better financial results for the company and for the shareholders. So, that’s your question on internationalization. So, on marketing, the customer acquisition, so if you look at our 2020 data, our customer acquisition cost is like $100 per person, okay. So, this actually has come down from earlier and I say 2019, our customer acquisition costs about was about like $200 to $300. So, the reason of the decrease is due to of course we already have a better branding now and it’s more natural traffic and also we are providing more comprehensive services to the users. So, there are more users coming to our platform. Going forward, when we expand offshore, we think the customer acquisition costs will go up, because first of all, there might be other players we will be competing for the – competing for the users. Second thing is if you go to new markets, it will take us some time to build up our brand. So, at the very beginning, we will spend more to do more branding to increase our brand awareness, but through our past experience, we think all those – my marketing expense are well worth it, because if you look at our customer payback period actually came down to just maybe one quarter. So, if we go to more market, we will just mimic the same strategy to keep spending to acquire users. So in the short run, I think opening data will build a bigger user base is more important for us. So, we will keep spending once we get into the new markets. And for your take rates, yes, so the commission rate, if you just calculate commission rates go up a little bit versus last quarter on a quarter-over-quarter basis, but eventually, we haven’t done any pricing change. Okay, so our pricing stay the same for U.S. it’s about like $0.01 per share, minimum to $2.99 and for Hong Kong it’s 2.9 bps for Hong Kong securities trading. And to answer your question on the Hong Kong license, so we have resubmitted our application to acquire Hong Kong stock broker earlier last month. So, we believe the application contains all the information required by SFC. As a result of the discussion, we initiate with them to confirm what was required. So, the regulator may require further information for us although we believe we have given them a very comprehensive material. So, so far we have – they have not asked for any follow-up information, they may do so in due course, but so far, they haven’t done there yet. So typically, the application will take 6 to 12 weeks to process. Obviously, we cannot guarantee the outcome or timing, but we are as confident as we can be that we have filed everything the regulator reasonably needs to consider application. Thanks.

[Hanyang Wang:]

I have a question on the tax benefits, what costs are tax benefits during the quarter?

[John Zeng:]

Yes. So, we just breakeven for this year, right. So as every startup, when they breakeven, before they were breakeven, they have huge losses before. So, we have a cumulative amount of tax benefit. So once we started to breakeven, we would be able to utilize those tax benefits for this quarter.

[Hanyang Wang:]

This is very helpful. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Thank you. We have reached the end of the question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call back to presenters for closing remarks.

[Clark Soucy:]

I would like to thank everyone for joining our call today. I am now closing the call on behalf of the management team here at UP Fintech. We do appreciate your participation in today’s call. If you have any further questions, please reach out to our Investor Relations team. This concludes the call. And thank you very much for your time.

[Operator:]

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for participating. You may all disconnect.