Thomson Reuters Corporation
Q1 2019 Earnings Call Transcript

Published: 8 May 2019

[Operator:]

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Thomson Reuters First Quarter 2019 Earnings Call. At this time, all participant lines are in a listen-only mode. Later there will be an opportunity for your questions. Instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded. I'd now like to turn the conference over to the Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Frank Golden. Please go ahead.

[Frank Golden:]

Thank you. Good morning everyone and thanks for joining us today. Our CEO, Jim Smith; and our CFO, Stephane Bello will review the results for the first quarter and will update you on the outlook for the balance of the year. When we open the call for questions, we'd appreciate it if you would limit yourselves to one question each to enable us to get to as many questions as possible. And as a reminder we no longer control Refinitiv as we own 45% of the partnership. We account for our ownership interest as an equity method investment on our income statement. And I'll also remind you that Refinitiv is not included in our adjusted earnings or in adjusted earnings per share. Now, throughout today's presentation when we compare performance period-on-period, we discuss revenue growth rates before currency as we believe this provides the best basis to measure the underlying performance of the business. Today's presentation does contain forward-looking statements and actual results may differ materially due to a number of risks and uncertainties discussed in reports and filings that we provide to regulatory agencies. You can access these documents on our website or by contacting our Investor Relations department. I'd like to now turn the call over to our CEO, Jim Smith.

[Jim Smith:]

Thanks Frank and thanks to all of you who joined us today as we report our first quarter results. We'll spend most of our time focused on operating performance and I am pleased to report that we had a solid start to the year. But it is especially rewarding to do so knowing that two of our colleagues yesterday were released from a Yangon prison after spending more than 500 days behind bars. It was a great day for Reuters and for press freedom. And it was a joyous reminder of the core values that make this company special. We have a resilient business model that is delivered by passionate committed colleagues who believe deeply that what we do every day makes a difference in the world. I wanted to take the opportunity to pay tribute to Wa Lone, Kyaw Soe Oo and their colleagues in our Myanmar bureau for their commitment to fearless and partial journalism. Their work has been rightly recognized worldwide. Their courage is an inspiration to us all. I also want to thank the countless individuals and organizations who have helped keep the public spotlight focused on them and on our cause. It's safe to say they very well might not be free without that support. Now, to the operating results. As I mentioned we're off to a solid start across the business with the first quarter's performance a bit above our expectations as we continue to build on the progress we made last year. In the quarter, net sales were strong due to improved retention and price realization. Our book of business continued to build nicely and organic recurring revenue growth was as strong as we have seen in quite a few years. Reported revenues were up 8% in the quarter. That includes the quarterly payment from Refinitiv to Reuters News. And revenues at a constant currency were up 10%. Note that currency had a $26 million negative impact on reported revenues in the quarter. Organic revenues increased a bit more than 3% for the quarter marking the third consecutive quarter of 3% organic revenue growth. Importantly, organic revenue growth would have been 4% had transactions just been flat versus last year. So, based on results for the quarter, we're confident that we're on track to achieve our full year organic revenue growth target of 3% to 3.5%. Adjusted EBITDA was about $400 million, down 8% as expected. The decline was driven by stranded and one-time costs incurred in the quarter as our underlying EBITDA performance continues to improve. Stephane will provide more details on this later. And adjusted EPS was up $0.08 to $0.36 per share versus $0.28 per share a year ago. Based on the first quarter's performance and our outlook for the remainder of the year we are reaffirming our full year outlook for 2019 and 2020 that we provided in February. Now, as I mentioned, total reported revenues grew 8% to $1.5 billion with organic revenue up 3%. Recurring revenues were about three-quarters of the total company revenues and they grew 6% organically with strong growth in Legal, Corporates, and Tax Professionals. Transaction revenues declined 3% organically for the quarter and represented 13% of total revenues and Global Print revenues performed slightly better than expected declining 4% organically for the quarter and they constituted 11% of total revenues. Effective the 1st of this year, we consolidated all our Global Print businesses under one management team. And we're beginning to see the benefits from using consistent best practices across geographies which is improving retention and achieving economies of scale. For the full year, we expect Print revenues to decline mid-single-digit. As you can see on this slide the Legal Professionals, Corporates, and Tax Professionals segments comprised nearly 80% of total revenues. They grew 4% organically for the quarter. The recurring revenues business -- recurring revenues for these businesses increased 6%. We continue to expect a strong performance from these three businesses for the full year and this is where we are targeting our investments. These investments should further accelerate growth and put us on a path to achieve our overall organic revenue growth target of 3.5% to 4.5% in 2020. Reuters News revenues were up more than 100%, including the quarterly payment from Refinitiv. Organic revenues for Reuters News were up 3%. You will recall that Reuters News revenue growth rates will be distorted this year until the fourth quarter at which time we will lap the first quarterly payment that was made in 2018. So, 2019 is off to a solid start, with the trajectory of the business continuing to improve. Revenue growth is tracking to plan. Sales were strong in the quarter. Our book-of-business is building and we're seeing good underlying margin improvement. So, the pieces are in place as we focus on our number one goal, achieving revenue growth of 3.5% to 4.5% next year. And to achieve this we are aggressively building on our strengths. First, we're fortunate to operate in attractive stable and growing markets where we hold leadership positions. We don't take this for granted. We are working to further strengthen our position by embedding ourselves more deeply in the most valuable professional workflows. We're knitting the other offerings. We're extending our unique content and we're building new capabilities on cutting-edge technology, which should lead to higher retention and higher recurring revenue growth. Second, our customers rely on us to be their information and technology partner, as they navigate significant change. We thrive on serving the nuanced needs of those customers and demand for technology-led workflow solutions that help our customers save time and deliver more value to their customers is increasing. And we're working to capture new customer spend by serving those evolving needs. In fact, for -- demand for legal information and technology continues to grow above inflation as more law firms embrace more technology. Third, our deeply knowledgeable and experienced domain experts add significant value to our content. This helps set us apart from the competition and is an underappreciated skill set and strength. For example, our success with AI, in general, and Westlaw Edge, in particular, is a result of three key ingredients; unique proprietary content, talented technologists, and experienced domain experts all working together to develop world-class solutions. This work is ramping up across the company and you will see a series of new AI based legal and tax solutions released throughout this year and next. And last, we're moving aggressively to simplify the business by investing in technologies to enable customer support -- to enable customers to transact with us through digital channels. We're consolidating legacy platforms. We're sunsetting older products and we're disposing of non-core low-growth, low-margin businesses, while focusing investment in our three core businesses. So, we've never been better positioned to help reinvent the way professionals work. Our customers are counting on us. Our first quarter results reflect the progress we're making. Now, I'll turn it over to Stephane to discuss the first quarter's results in further detail.

[Stephane Bello:]

Thank you, Jim and good morning or good afternoon to all of you joining us today. As I always do, let me start by reminding you that our results exclude the performance of Refinitiv. Also as Frank mentioned earlier, I will talk to revenue growth before currency. So on a constant currency basis, first quarter revenues were up 10%. Currency had a negative 2% impact on revenue this quarter or $26 million. On an organic basis, revenues grew 3% during the first quarter, excluding the impact of the news contract with Refinitiv and the Integration Point acquisition. I will provide some additional information about the breakdown of our organic revenue growth on the next slide. But first turning to profitability. Adjusted EBITDA was $397 million in the first quarter, which was down 8% primarily due to cost and investments related to the separation of the two companies. Now before turning to the segment results, let's look a little deeper at our organic revenue growth performance. Overall, organic revenue growth was 3% during the first quarter, which represented an improvement of about 140 basis points over the performance in Q1, 2018. As shown on the left-hand side of this graph, this was driven by better organic growth performance in all of our three core businesses

[Frank Golden:]

Perfect. Thanks very much, Stephane and Jim. And now, operator we'd like to open the call for questions please. So the first question.

[Operator:]

Thank you. The first question is from the line of Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

[Toni Kaplan:]

Thank you. Good morning.

[Jim Smith:]

Good morning, Toni.

[Toni Kaplan:]

The Legal Professionals margin of 38% was far better than what I was expecting. You mentioned the drivers

[Stephane Bello:]

I would say there were definitely some timing elements in the first quarter margin of the Legal segment, Toni. But -- and also remember the Legal business is now smaller than it used to be so there's probably like timing variance have a bigger impact on the quarterly performance. So I wouldn't look at the first quarter margin as what should be expected over the balance of the year. But, nevertheless, as we said earlier, I would certainly expect a noticeable margin improvement on a year-over-year basis and that will be driven primarily by revenue growth.

[Toni Kaplan:]

Thank you.

[Operator:]

[Operator Instructions] Next we'll go to the line of Drew McReynolds with RBC. Please go ahead.

[Drew McReynolds:]

Yeah, thanks very much. Good morning. On the transaction revenue performance in the first quarter, I think you've walked through and flashed through the impact quite extensively. Just want to look at it from a bigger picture perspective, Jim or Stephane. When you look at each of the components of that transaction revenue, is there any kind of structural tailwind or headwind facing those buckets of revenue? Just trying to kind of size up. I know it's volatile from quarter-to-quarter but size up whether those transaction revenues ultimately grow over a medium term? Thank you.

[Jim Smith:]

Yeah. Drew thanks for the question. I think there are two primary drivers in there. And one is just the services revenues that go along with big implementations like our Elite software systems. So when a law firm changes out its time and billing system or upgrades its time and billing system there are a lot of services that wrap around that and that's completely dependent upon when we have those installations. So I think over time that'll be a steady source of revenue, which will be volatile. But it'll be steady as Elite continues to grow. And then there was the Legal Managed Services bit, which was outsourced work, helping law firms and corporations with things like due diligence, responding to regulatory request that sort of stuff. And that's a business, which is a purely services business. It's a business that doesn't have the same kind of scalability characteristics as our other businesses. And it's a business that we're exiting. So I think that would be the more from our perspective challenge of the businesses but the business that would fit better within EY who is acquiring it because they're experts at managing those kinds of businesses.

[Drew McReynolds:]

Okay. Thank you.

[Stephane Bello:]

And Drew that business is about $40 million $45 million in annual revenue.

[Jim Smith:]

So I think you'll see a gradual decline in the percentage of transaction revenues over that time.

[Drew McReynolds:]

Okay. Appreciate that. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Next we go to the line of Vince Valentini with TD Securities. Please go ahead.

[Vince Valentini:]

Yeah, thanks. Just trying to triangulate your guidance based on pretty healthy beat here in Q1, but then this asset sale which you're talking about are you -- do you think you're now trending towards the high end of the $1.4 billion to $1.5 billion range or these timing issues you've talked about significant enough to detract from EBITDA growth in future quarters? And as a part of your answer have you given us -- or can you give us some ballpark on how much revenue and EBITDA goes out the door with Pangea?

[Stephane Bello:]

Sure. So let me try to address the second question for -- like the divestiture of our Legal Managed Services business should not have a big impact on margin. If anything it may be slightly positive but very, very minor Vince. Now with regard to the EBITDA we are encouraged obviously by the performance of the first quarter, but we still have like three quarters to go. So it's a bit early to do anything with regards to our guidance. And I would say, we are looking at a number of initiatives which hopefully can help us really turbocharge our growth. And so if there is an opportunity to fund some of these initiatives in 2019, I think if we have to make a trade-off we'll definitely make a trade-off in favor of initiatives which should help us do better in 2020, 2021 even if as a result of that we don't significantly exceed our 2019 EBITDA guidance.

[Jim Smith:]

Yes. And let me just jump -- just reiterate, reinforce and underline what Stephane just said. We've said for a long time, we'd always trade a point of margin for a point of growth any day. And what we're looking at now and we're in the fortunate position of actually being a little ahead of our expectations for Q1 and we're going to actively manage that throughout the year to say, if we continue to see the kind of over performance we've seen in Q1 are we better off to take that to the bottom line? Are we better off to invest that in initiatives that we believe will pay off with top line growth in the future? So we're going to be managing it very dynamically. And if we are convinced we can spend on things that will drive growth while still delivering on our commitments, we'll do that. And if we don't, we'll take the over performance to the bottom line.

[Vince Valentini:]

Thanks.

[Operator:]

Next we'll move to the line of Aravinda Galappatthige with Canaccord Genuity.

[Aravinda Galappatthige:]

Thanks for taking my question. For Stephane, with respect to the earlier question about Legal margin, I know that last year there was some spend around Westlaw Edge. I'm trying to remember what the cadence of that was through the year? And I was wondering if that is sort of assisting sort of the sharp growth that we're seeing in Legal Professionals EBITDA margin? I was wondering if you can speak to that. And to that point I was wondering if you can give us a little bit more color on the development of Westlaw Edge in terms of the take-up. How's that tracking versus expectations and also the reception from customers? I mean were they happy with the features? Are they asking for more? Just a little bit more color around how material that could be down the road? Thank you.

[Stephane Bello:]

Sure Aravinda. Thank you for your question. I would -- in response to your first question I would say, yes probably. If you look at the year-over-year improvement some of that was driven by some of the marketing expenses linked to Westlaw Edge. If you look at the margin of our Legal business last year Q1 was actually the low point. So I think that what you're saying is right. This being said, if you look at the absolute performance of our EBITDA this year, it's one of the highest margins the business has done. So it's more than just the aspens of the Westlaw Edge marketing expense. It's really good underlying performance that you -- is shining through the margin there. And in terms of your second question on Westlaw Edge, it's a really good question. Remember Westlaw Edge is not a, what I would refer to as a static product. We will introduce new modules as the year goes by. Actually we have a pretty exciting module that we are planning to introduce in the coming weeks that I think is going to be well received. And going forward, I think that's what we should expect -- you should expect to see from Westlaw Edge continuous improvement in that product to make it increasingly attractive to our customer base.

[Aravinda Galappatthige:]

Thank you.

[Operator:]

Next we'll go to the line of Andrew Steinerman with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

[Andrew Steinerman:]

It's Andrew. I have two questions. The first is on disposals. Are there plans or prospects to dispose other non-core businesses like Pangea? And if that was done this year would it affect the revenue guidance? Like is there -- are they notable enough in terms of revenues to affect the guidance? And the second one Stephane, you probably feel like you just answered this question. I'm going to ask the corporate cost question a little bit differently. I truly get it. If corporate costs come in lower than expected you want to reinvest it. But I'm just asking, why corporate costs have come in lower than expected in the first quarter but you still expect corporate costs for the full year to be that $750 million level. Like could you give us some sense of the types of costs within corporate costs that should build from here during 2019?

[Stephane Bello:]

Sure. Thank you, Andrew. Let me start with the second question. When I was referring -- Jim and I were talking about potentially using the better performance in profitability to fund some growth initiative we were not just referring to corporate costs. We were referring to the overall better EBITDA performance, which is coming very much from the businesses I would say more than from the Corporate costs. What happened with regard to Corporate costs is onetime costs are sometimes pretty hard to predict exactly in which quarter they're going to fall. We think that the guidance we've given you in terms of what's going to happen in the first half versus the second half is still pretty much accurate, which means we're seeing higher corporate costs onetime costs primarily in the second quarter versus the first quarter like $30 million to $40 million higher probably in Q2 versus Q1. And as I said, that should really be the peak because from there on you should start seeing these onetime costs to start being less and less as we progress through the year. That's the answer to your second question. With regard to divestitures, we don't really speak about it a lot, but there's a number of very small businesses that we have or are in the process of divesting in addition to what we call our Legal Managed Services or Pangea3 as you refer to it. I would say in aggregate these may be to the tune of maybe $25 million in annual revenues. So that -- that's going to happen over the course of the year. There was some impact of that in our Q2 results pretty minor on a quarterly basis given that as I said in aggregate these other divestitures are about $25 million or so for the full year.

[Andrew Steinerman:]

Great. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Next we go to the line of Manav Patnaik with Barclays. Please go ahead.

[Manav Patnaik:]

Yeah. Good morning. I also have a two-parter. The first one is just on Westlaw to follow up. I think at Investor Day and Westlaw Edge specifically I guess at Investor Day you'd given us some stats on 1,500 new sales or up-sells in the first I forgot how many weeks. I was hoping you could give us a little bit more update there. And then, it sounds like organically there's a lot of innovation happening and that should help you lift your organic growth. So with that in mind is M&A still very much in your agenda? Or can we expect to see some of that cash that you stocked up in buybacks in some other form?

[Jim Smith:]

Sure. Let me dive in there. And again, it's with the caveat that Stephane gave in the earlier answer. This is not kind of a Westlaw Edge replacing earlier products and it's not some kind of forced migration. These are actually new tools and new platform. It's a new platform with all kinds of new tools that we'll be adding to over time. If you look at it we're over 3,000 sales now which is a solid growth from our large law firm customers and frankly surprisingly good uptake amongst some small law firm customers. So we're going to continue to grow that. If you look at it about 75% of the sales have come to our existing customers and 28% of those sales have come to -- from new customers. And those new customers are primarily in small law firm areas. So really good uptake there and really good price realization there. And we're quite happy with how that product has come out. We're also happy with what we've learned the reaction that we're getting from our clients and then the ability to do Westlaw Edge-like analytics in other areas for other customer sets that we serve. So it's really encouraging experience we've had with Westlaw Edge. As it comes to supplementing that increasing organic growth with acquisitions, we're still looking at it very hard and with a keen eye. We're looking again not to plug gaps in today's offerings. We feel quite confident in our offerings today, but looking for capabilities that our customers might need in future years. And to the extent, we can make acquisitions that support the growth story and provide tools to our clients that they're going to need in the future we'll take a long hard look at them. But I would just say in order for us to pull the trigger on it -- on an acquisition, it's going to have to meet two criteria

[Operator:]

And next we'll move on to the line of George Tong with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

[George Tong:]

Hi, thanks, good morning. I'd also like to ask about the strong EBITDA margin performance in the Legal business. One of the drivers you'd listed was flow-through from strong recurring revenues. Many of your other segments also have strong recurring revenue performance this quarter. So the question is do you see similar margin expansion opportunity in your other segments? And how would you frame your longer-term EBITDA margin targets for the Legal Corporates and Tax segments?

[Stephane Bello:]

Yes. Good morning, George. I would say we see very similar dynamics in our other segments. There was visible strong flow-through also in our Tax Professionals. It was less apparent in our Corporates segments because of the Integration Point acquisition. But just having the margin essentially flat year-on-year despite that acquisitions should give you an indication that the underlying margin was also seeing good flow-through. And in terms of long-term margin targets, we don't really have targets in terms of margins for each of our segments. As Jim always say what we seek to deliver is the maximum growth of free cash flow in each of these segments. That's really what we're focused on. And it's always trade-off between you achieve that by trying to push the revenue line or do you achieve that by letting more of the flow-through fall to the bottom line. And really that's what -- that's the trade-off that we are looking at every day. But as we always said, with the growth rate -- the organic growth rate north of 3% now, that's when you start seeing the operating leverages come from these businesses and it was rewarding to see that really shining through in the first quarter.

[George Tong:]

Got it. Very helpful. Thank you.

[Jim Smith:]

Yeah. And just to answer that I mean, again, the thing that encourages us most was that those -- the growth was driven in those subscription-based recurring revenue businesses which are the stickiest of our businesses and the most profitable of our businesses.

[George Tong:]

Okay. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Next we go to the line of David Ridley-Lane with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

[David Ridley-Lane:]

Good morning. Wanted to check in on the digital sales channel. At the Analyst Day, you spoke out about investments you're making there building up the digital channel working to reach some of your smaller prospects and current customers. So, I did want to check in on the progress that you've made so far.

[Jim Smith:]

Sure. I believe we're making really good progress there -- specific progress in building out the tools that we need to help reach out to them. I think we've seen a pretty marked increase in the number of our customers who are renewing their contracts with us online -- fully online and the prospecting and kind of the assistance that we're driving to our sales forces. So its early days and we're focused on building the tools to do it better. But the update frankly particularly on the ability to renew and the uptake of that from our clients is actually probably ahead of what we would have expected. And I would call it particularly in the small law firm space.

[Operator:]

And next, we'll move to the line of Doug Arthur with Huber Research. Please go ahead.

[Doug Arthur:]

Yeah. Just a quick question on share repurchase plans. Jim, if acquisitions that are small do not meet your criteria in 2019 given your pretty strong net debt position it's under $1 billion, I think right now. Would you consider accelerating share repurchase activity, I guess is the question?

[Jim Smith:]

I'm sure we would. We're -- these are early days of exploring the opportunities for how we're going to deploy that capital. As the year moves on and we see what the likelihood is of finding effective ways to deploy that through acquisition, we'll have a conversation with our Board and we'll make that decision at that time. I mean, obviously, we're not going to sit with the net debt position that we're in right now. We're not going to sit with $2 billion of cash on the balance sheet or looking for something to do with it. We'll find a way to put it to work one way or the other. But we just need to complete our analysis of how effectively we're going to able to spend it on acquisitions.

[Doug Arthur:]

Got it. Thank you.

[Frank Golden:]

I think we'll take one more question please operator.

[Operator:]

Very good. It's the line of Tim Casey with BMO. Please go ahead.

[Tim Casey:]

Jim at the Analyst Day you talked about cross-sell and up-sell as key components to drive organic growth. What's the update there? Is any of that in the numbers yet? Or is that still to come given you'll probably take some time to really drive those things? Thanks.

[Jim Smith:]

Tim, it's a great point. I actually think it's -- there's a lot of future potential there. And I think there's probably some element of that that's flowing through toward the end of the quarter. But if you think about it we just got the new sales teams together up and firing at the beginning of the year. And we're building the tools that will help in giving our salespeople the visibility into how that's working. We are seeing some increase in cross-sell and up-sell. We are targeting in each unit. But right now we're still building some tools to help analyze that in more real-time fashion. So, we're going to have to do more analysis around that manually for the time being. I would say though that if you look at what we're doing to enable the salesforces, we'll have three quarters of the company on one instance of salesforce.com by the end of this year. We'll be well over 85% of the company on one instance in the first quarter of next year. So, we're now getting the tools to have the kind of real-time visibility into those activities. I have spent more time with our salespeople and with our customers this year than I have in a long time. And I can tell you that the sales teams are excited about it as a new opportunity and that the clients really like the ability to deal with us holistically in a more integrated sort of way. So, I still have a lot of hope and this is one of the key levers that we expect to use to drive increasing organic growth in the future. And I think its early days there and there's a lot of upside there.

[Frank Golden:]

Terrific. Thanks Jim and Stephane and thank you all for joining us for our first quarter call. That'll conclude the call and we look forward to speaking to you again in August. Have a good day.

[Operator:]

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