United Therapeutics Corporation
Q3 2018 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Good morning and welcome to the United Therapeutics Corporation Third Quarter 2018 Earnings call. My name is Shelby, and I will be your conference operator today. All participants are in a listen-only mode until the question-and-answer session portion of this earnings call. I will now turn the conference call over to James Edgemond, Chief Financial Officer of United Therapeutics. Sir, you may begin.
- James Christopher Edgemond:
- Hi. Good morning. It is my pleasure to welcome you to the United Therapeutics Third Quarter 2018 Earnings Call. Accompanying me today on the earnings call are Dr. Martine Rothblatt, our Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Mr. Michael Benkowitz, our President and Chief Operating Officer, and Mr. Andy Fisher, our Executive Vice President. Remarks today will include forward-looking statements representing our expectations or beliefs regarding future events. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially. Our latest SEC filings, including Form 10-K and 10-Q contain additional information on these risks and uncertainties. We assume no obligation to update forward-looking statements. Today's remarks may also include financial measures that were not prepared in accordance with U.S. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. Reconciliations of non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures can be found in our earnings release available on our website at www.unither.com. Today's remarks may discuss the progress and results of clinical trials or other developments with respect to our products. These remarks are intended solely to educate investors and are not intended to serve as the basis for medical decision-making or to suggest that any products are safe and effective for any unapproved or investigational uses. Full prescribing information for the products is available on our website. Now I will turn the call over to Dr. Rothblatt for an overview of our third quarter 2018 financial results and the business activities of United Therapeutics.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Thank you, James, and good morning, everybody dialing in to the United Therapeutics Third Quarter 2018 Earnings Call. My name is Martine Rothblatt. I'm the Chairman and CEO. And in addition to Mr. Edgemond, our Chief Financial Officer, I'm also joined on the call today by Michael Benkowitz, our President and Chief Operating Officer and Mr. Andrew Fisher, who is joining us for his last earnings call before his retirement after 20 years at United Therapeutics. Thank you, Andy, for all those years of service. Well I've got a lot of good things to share on this call. First and foremost, I'm super excited that during the past quarter, we hit the second highest number of patients on our treprostinil franchise that we've ever had. That's over 7,000 patients across our Remodulin, Tyvaso, and Orenitram and it's very consistent with our expectations that we see our treprostinil franchise continuing to grow in terms of number of patient's health year-after-year through the 2019, 2020 and into the 2020s. And the reason for this notwithstanding the launch of generic Remodulin are the number of unique and differentiable factors that pertain to our various treprostinil products, Remodulin, Tyvaso and Orenitram. Before I go into those differentiable aspects, let me mention the most important thing from a scientific standpoint is that our research has shown that treprostinil uniquely activates the EP2 receptor in the pulmonary vascular bed. And this is something which is not matched by other prostacyclin analogs or prodrugs of prostacyclin and it seems to have a significant pharmacodynamic impacts that are particularly relevant to the progress of pulmonary hypertension and the natural history of the disease. So we feel very fortunate that the treprostinil franchise, our home franchise, is one that uniquely activates this EP2 receptor in the pulmonary vasculature. But now let me describe how our productization of that treprostinil franchise gives us some really exciting products and gives us the confidence to say that total patients on United Therapeutics treprostinil products are very, very likely and we are quite confident that they will continue to grow year-after-year for the coming years. So, first let me talk about Remodulin, which was the first treprostinil product that we launched. There are four unique features to Remodulin as it is today and then there are four unique ways that Remodulin is going to advance above and beyond the entry point of any generic forms of Remodulin. First, Remodulin has an established safety profile and 15-plus years of supply chain reliability that is recognized by prescribing physicians. By the way, speaking of supply chain, I would like people to know that we've got some tremendous and talented staff at United Therapeutics responsible for supply chain. Some of you may have had a chance to interact with Beth Rhodes, our Senior Vice President for Global Supply Chain. She reports to my colleague, Mike Benkowitz here right to my right and together they and their teams have done just a stellar job of ensuring a flawless supply chain for 15-plus years. Second, Remodulin patient support services that generic manufacturers of Remodulin are not expected to offer. Third, physicians and payers have not historically encouraged substitution of existing lower cost PAH parenteral alternatives. And, number four, Remodulin will remain a highly differentiated product, will be delivered through multiple next generation drug delivery systems intended to enhance safety, tolerability and convenience for our patients. And next, fourth factor is a great launching point for me to talk about these four different ways that Remodulin will permutate over the next several years and remain a proprietary important branded product of United Therapeutics. First and foremost, the implanted system for Remodulin or implantable system for Remodulin, ISR. This is a product that the FDA very graciously approved last year and is now going through a number of advancements to expand its reach beyond the initial patient population being helped out to the many thousands of patients that we, physicians and others believe are natural users of the implantable system for Remodulin. Yesterday, we at United Therapeutics had one of our monthly or every other month town meetings and we were honored to have one of the implantable system for Remodulin patients come to speak to all of the gathered Unitherians as we like to call ourselves. And this patient (00
- Operator:
- And our first question comes from Chris Shibutani from Cowen. Your line is now open.
- Chris Shibutani:
- Good morning. Thank you very much. Two questions, number one, Martine you're highlighting this patient number, which is something that we would really benefit from the ability to get a better sense of perspective on how to interpret that. Can you give us a little bit more background in terms of this, obviously there's been probably growth in the use of treatments at earlier stages, which might support a growing number of patients, but can you put some perspective, is there anything in terms of revenue per patient, or what do we do with this 7,000 number in terms of, I'm trying to figure out how to translate over to our view of how to think about the future? And then I have a follow-up question on expenses for James, but for you on the patient number, Martine.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Okay. So the drug industry has been critiqued for price increases, and I think that it's a dodgy but necessary statistic in terms of looking at how well a company is doing in terms of revenue, because a lot of companies they just keep increasing prices. Now fortunately that has been moderated in recent months, quarters, to the industry is trying to keep the price increases in the single-digits percentages. Just for the record, and not saying that we're better than anybody else, I just wanted to say what the fact is. United Therapeutics has never taken a double-digit price increase ever in our entire history. And so, we got to $1.5 billion a year in revenue the hard way, by doing good clinical trials, good clinical science, and explaining the results to doctors, and then doctors took the appropriate decision. So if I was in your shoes, I would say, wow total number of patients on treprostinil, that is a really good metric for me to use to understand how well this company is doing, like if generics were eating their lunch, then by definition the total number of patients on treprostinil would be less, as you could see that's not happening here. Now we don't like to go into the minutia of how many patients are on this, that and the other version of our drug, and as you could tell from my introductory remarks we are in the process of kind of cloning three versions of our drugs into like 12 versions of our drugs. There will be four different flavors of Remodulin. There already are three different flavors. There will be four different flavors of Tyvaso, and I didn't have time to talk about what we're doing in terms of our Orenitram combo pill and our Orenitram once daily pill, but all that stuff is going forward as well. So we're not going to go into the minutia of each particular product and how many thousands of patients are on each particular product. But I do think that I completely agree with you that the total number of United Therapeutics patients on treprostinil is an excellent barometer of how well the company is doing. Now in terms of pricing and in terms of what does that mean in terms of revenues, I think a kind of a rough metric that β and this is all based on publicly accessible information, every product has its own reimbursement profile, every product has its own rebate profile based on the Part B, Part D, Medicare, private, particular contracts with particular payers. Not to mention the fact that our products, unlike those of most of our competitors are titratable, which makes it yet more complicated to figure it out. But I think a conservative metric would be say, $150,000 per patient per year times the number of patients on the drug. It's going to be a rough estimate of what the company's net revenues are going to be. James, can you talk about the expense question?
- James Christopher Edgemond:
- Yeah. Hey Chris?
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
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- James Christopher Edgemond:
- Yeah.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
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- James Christopher Edgemond:
- No, he was going to circle back on the expense question.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- All right. Chris, do you have the expense questions ready? Operator, next call.
- Operator:
- And our next question comes from Geoff Meacham from Barclay. Your line is now open.
- Unknown Speaker:
- Hey guys. Thanks so much for taking my call. This is Jason (00
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Yeah. Thanks, Jason (00
- Operator:
- Thank you. And our next question comes from Terence Flynn from Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.
- Terence Flynn:
- Hi. Thanks for taking the question. I was just wondering, Martine, if you can comment on latest thoughts on capital allocation, specifically how you're thinking about repurchases versus business development and maybe expanding the pipeline beyond PAH. Thanks a lot.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Thanks, Terence, for that question. I'm going to pass it over to James as he's our Chief Financial Officer. I will just mention though, at the tail of the question, that we are expanding beyond pulmonary hypertension. And just to make sure everybody on the phone is aware during the past quarter we acquired the exclusive rights to a very, very exciting product for idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, which is not associated with pulmonary hypertension. There is another subset of pulmonary fibrosis which is associated with pulmonary hypertension. We have a Phase III trial now enrolling patients called the PERFECT trial, and it's enrolling quite well. That's a growth opportunity for Tyvaso (00
- James Christopher Edgemond:
- Good morning, Terence. Thanks for the question. And so Terence, our capital allocation priorities, I would say remain unchanged and consistent with what we've talked about previously. And so, we're first going to invest in R&D opportunities that support our business mission. And second, investing in value-creating business development activities. Martine mentioned some of those briefly just a moment ago. And third, historically we have done share repurchase, but that will be a third priority. So again, I think the framework that we've applied is been consistent. And I think if you go back to the third quarter, we've executed against that framework as we've discussed before.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Excellent, James. I'd like to add one last point, Terence, and that is we have not had a chance on our quarterly calls to talk very much about our oncology franchise. And it's probably something that I really take responsibility for. I should have provided the shareholders with more visibility into our oncology franchise. It's a really beautiful drug because β and I'm talking here about Unituxin, in that based on the label it has reduced the death rate in the patients who end up dying from neuroblastoma by just about 50% in the subset of neuroblastoma patients to which it applies. That means that there are literally hundreds of kids that β thanks to Unituxin β are going to be able to grow up and live a normal life without a fear of cancer haunting them, without needing to take any continued drugs to keep their cancer in check. I wish it worked 100% of the time, but I'm grateful that it works 50% of the time. And we have a number of physicians that are beginning to test Unituxin in other GD2-responsive cancers, of which there are several dozen. So we teamed up with a company called Precision Oncology to analyze all the different GD2 cancers and go through a comprehensive, precision medicine based set of assays to determine, which was our best shot for dinutuximab, and that's the proper chemical name of Unituxin. And anyway, the best shot turned out to be small cell lung cancer, followed by certain forms of glioma, followed by certain forms of melanoma. And so we embarked on first a Phase II, then the Phase III study of dinutuximab in small cell lung cancer. And we've now completed enrollment just this past quarter of over 450 patients, in that DISTINCT is the name of the Phase III study of dinutuximab for small cell lung cancer. Our business development, market research people have told me that they see this as a $2 billion market. So I think that's pretty impressive and it definitely is a strong step outside of pulmonary hypertension. I'll also mention in that vein that there are forms of neuroblastoma for which Unituxin is not currently approved and we are pursuing approval on these additional forms of neuroblastoma for which it is not currently approved. There are some clinician testing of it in some soft tissue cancers, different types of sarcomas, so that's another significant opportunity. Finally, very recently we obtained exclusive rights from St. Jude to a humanized form of our dinutuximab molecule. And this coming quarter we'll be pretty much wrapping up the construction of our production facility for the humanized dinutuximab. I have to say that the only drug we have or product that we have that I have not been able to keep the amount of inventory that I would like because of the size of our facilities and the amount of sales is dinutuximab. So with this new facility, we will be able to ramp up our production of humanized dinutuximab, which once we do the appropriate comparability studies and obtain FDA approval, I think it will be a gentler drug for the kids to take, and the adults for that matter and will really be a drug that can move our cancer franchise to its full $2 billion value proposition that I mentioned earlier. Next question?
- Operator:
- And our next question comes from Liana Moussatos from Wedbush Securities. Your line is now open.
- Liana Moussatos:
- Thank you. What are the next steps and timing to get RemoPro approved? And do you plan to replace all subcutaneous products with RemoPro?
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Thanks, Liana, so nice to hear your voice this morning. And (00
- Operator:
- And our last question comes from Jessica Fye from JPMorgan. Your line is now open.
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- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Well thank you for your question, and I'm joined today by our President and Chief Operating Officer, Mike Benkowitz. Among his many other responsibilities, Mike also oversees all commercial operations at Untied Therapeutics, all relationships with payers, many other key responsibilities. So, Mike, can you please help the JPMorgan analyst?
- Michael Benkowitz:
- I'll try. At this point or at this date in time, we're not aware that Sandoz is launched. In fact we've heard they've not launched. And we really don't have additional information as to why they haven't launched or when they will launch. But we know that they could have launched back in June, (00
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Super, Mike. Thank you so much, everybody, for joining our call. The bottom line here is the same as the top line. Second best number of patients on our treprostinil franchise ever, and the forecast is for continued growth in total patients on treprostinil through Remodulin, Tyvaso, Orenitram, and the ever-growing number of new forms of both molecules that will provide advantages to physicians and providing patient care, as well as growth outside of pulmonary hypertension now into pulmonary fibrosis and into small cell lunch cancer. Thank you very much.
- Operator:
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