United Therapeutics Corporation
Q1 2012 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Good morning. My name is Tyrone, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the United Therapeutics Corporation First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Remarks today concerning United Therapeutics will include forward-looking statements, which represent United Therapeutics' expectations or beliefs regarding future events based on current assumptions. United Therapeutics cautions that such statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements. Consequently, all such forward-looking statements are qualified by their cautionary language and risk factors set forth in United Therapeutics' periodic and other reports filed with the SEC. There can be no assurance that the actual results, events or developments referenced in such forward-looking statements will occur or be realized. United Therapeutics assumes no obligations to update these forward-looking statements to reflect actual results, changes in assumptions or changes in the factors affecting such forward-looking statements. Thank you. Dr. Rothblatt, you may begin your conference.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Thank you very much, conference call operator. Good morning to everybody listening in on the United Therapeutics first quarter 2012 financial results conference call. I have joining me on the conference call today from United Therapeutics
- Operator:
- [Operator Instructions] We have a question from Mark Schoenebaum of ISI Group.
- Wesley Nurss:
- This is Wes sitting in for Mark. I had couple of questions about IP and also use of cash. My first question was around Tyvaso. Could you let us what the earliest potential date for a potential Paragraph IV filing for that product and your expectations of any filing? And then also, I'd like to know if you have any updates on use of cash around share buybacks, as well as business development for the remainder of the year. Any additional details around that would be very helpful.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Okay, thank you very much. We're going to spend most of our time on your first question. And feel free to get back in the queue on the second question. Just to give you a quick answer, there's no change in our previously announced use of cash plans. Andy, can you expand -- provide some color on the IP questions asked?
- Andrew Fisher:
- Sure. Thanks, Martine. So the situation with Tyvaso is that it has orphan drug exclusivity until July of 2016 and it has a range of Orange Book-listed patents expiring from 2014 until 2018. So those are the things you need to be mindful of when you consider Tyvaso's exclusivity position with respect to generic filers. I would also remind our listeners that Tyvaso is approved as a drug device combination. So I think the situation presents slightly differently with Tyvaso than with respect to the current pending Paragraph IV and the filing for a module.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Excellent observations, Andy. And hopefully, that was fairly responsive to Mark's question. I'd like to add just a little top of color on top of what Andy said on the concept of the drug device combination because it's kind of an unusual concept in the biotechnology space. When we were originally getting the Remodulin approved the -- what was somewhat different is that the drug was approved with sort of a generic set of infusion flow parameters that applied through the Medtronic, and formerly called MiniMed, device that infused it such that one could, in fact, provide Remodulin with an equivalent infusion device from another manufacturer. And there are, in fact, a couple -- maybe even more than 2 different infusion pumps that are used in combination with Remodulin. But as Andy pointed out, it's quite a different situation with Tyvaso being approved as a drug device combination. We ourselves tried more than once to reproduce the dispersal pattern within the bronchi that is associated with our device. And it was, in fact, not possible. Oftentimes other inhalation devices would provide something that was deeper than the Optineb, perhaps some people could argue "better" than the Optineb in terms of its dispersal pattern within bronchi. But what was incontestable is that all of -- any other device, it was always very, very different from the Optineb. And therefore, it would not in any way, shape or form come within the approval that was granted for Tyvaso and the Optineb device, as the drug device combination. So it would be -- it's going to be a horse of another color for there to be an introduction of a substitute for Tyvaso because of this unique drug device combination approval. And of course, as many of you are aware, this is a device that we own all the rights to, the manufacture, so on and so forth. So thanks for the question from Mark's group.
- Operator:
- The next question is from Michael Yee of RBC Capital Markets.
- Roz Sweeney:
- This is Roz Sweeney calling for Mike. I wanted to know if you could provide a little bit more detail on the fluctuations you're seeing in inventory levels in specialty pharmacies. And then in addition, just we have some calculations on growth in that net patient adds. But if you could maybe provide more detail there, that would be awesome.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Okay, thanks again for the questions. Once again, feel free to get back in queue on the second question. So we'll spend most of the time on the first question. And I'm going to ask John Ferrari, our Chief Financial Officer, to address it. I'll just say very quickly that with regard to net patients adds, we continue to have net positive net patient adds across all 3 product lines. John, can you talk about the distribution and inventory?
- John M. Ferrari:
- I'd be happy to, Martine. Inventory levels for the quarter were actually fairly flat. By patient count days, they just increased by 1 patient day. So nothing unusual with inventory levels. And that's across the board for both Remodulin and Tyvaso.
- Operator:
- Our next question is from Joseph Schwartz of Leerink.
- Joseph P. Schwartz:
- I was wondering if you could give us a sense of how much IV Remodulin is used with the various diluents that are available, like the Flolan diluent versus more generic-type options? Is -- I don't know even know. Is the Flolan diluent protected by any patent or generic, such as Jeffs' patent in 2029?
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Yes. That's because we have the Jeffs of the Jeffs' patent on the line, we'll ask Dr. Jeffs to talk about that.
- Roger A. Jeffs:
- Thanks, Martine. So in terms of the diluent, Remodulin is stable once diluted in normal saline or water, as well as in what's called the epoprostenol diluent. About 65% of patients roughly use the epoprostenol diluent. And the reason they do that is that's a very high pH diluent. So it's around 10, 10.5. What that provides is certain prophylaxis in case the patient contaminates their infusion set so that high pH has antimicrobial properties. And if that antimicrobial property of that diluent that we have patented and that patent goes through 2029, so it provides a long-term protective property from an intellectual standpoint, as well as a protective property to patients when they use intravenous Remodulin.
- Operator:
- Our next question is from Liana Moussatos of Wedbush Securities.
- Liana Moussatos:
- Do you expect any new products in the clinic coming up this year?
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- The pipeline activities of United Therapeutics are focused on bringing in our second line of products, which are oral prostacyclin analogs. And as you can see from the guidance that I mentioned at the beginning of the call, we believe that our current products have a clear potential to take us over a $1 billion in sales by 2013. And in fact, they've got definite leg and headspace in the market to go beyond that. But what gets us even more excited is the potential of our oral prostacyclin products, especially because there are no other forms of oral prostacyclin in the pulmonary hypertension space. And as a result, we are bringing the oral prostacyclin into the clinic this year in some very strong and innovative ways. So let me provide a little bit more color on this topic, starting from, let's say, the market standpoint. As of now, there are indisputably over 30,000 patients with pulmonary hypertension being actively treated by doctors in the United States alone. And for ease on tracking things during this call, let's just focus on the U.S. market, so over 30,000 being treated. Over 20,000 of those patients are being treated with PDE-5 inhibitors. It's at this point in time just about neck-and-neck sildenafil and tadalafil. Among doctors who are most experienced in treating pulmonary hypertension, such as the top 1/3 of doctors in terms of numbers of pulmonary hypertension patients per doctor, tadalafil is far out ahead, prescribed basically 3
- Operator:
- [Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Geoff Meacham of JP Morgan.
- Michael E. Ulz:
- This is actually Mike in for Geoff, and thanks for taking our question. Just curious about oral Remodulin. Just wondering how you guys are thinking about, if the drug is approved, how it might be used commercially?
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Yes. We are not applying a whole lot of energy into that particular question because we want to really focus our resources in terms of the oral treprostinil team on everything necessary to get the positive FDA decision on October 27. As you know, our filing has been accepted by the FDA. It is in process on the FDA, so there's been normal request of information and what-not that we're focusing on and preparing everything necessary to have a successful outcome of that FDA decision. Then the commercial team, on their side, they've got a really, really exciting year with the growth in Tyvaso, the continued growth in Remodulin, as reported today. So we are really right now focusing our efforts on growing our existing product revenue. Once we get a favorable nod from the FDA to proceed and we know now precisely what type of label we will have from the FDC -- from the FDA to proceed with, at that time, we would shape our marketing activities accordingly.
- Michael E. Ulz:
- Great. Can I maybe ask a follow-up on Remodulin...
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- You definitely could, but if you could just -- because there's other people in the queue, just in fairness to them, just push the button, and you'll be right back in the queue, and hopefully we'll get to you.
- Operator:
- [Operator Instructions]
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Mike?
- Michael E. Ulz:
- This is Mike. Just question on Remodulin in Europe and what's the current status of reimbursement there.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Remodulin in Europe reimbursement is -- it's looking good, but there are pressure points resulting from the economic crises that are impacting upon different parts of the European Union. Fortunately, we have John Ferrari, our Chief Financial Officer, on the call. And it's ultimately part of his responsibility to review distributor and reimbursement issues throughout the continent there. So John, if you could perhaps provide some color on Mike's call -- on Mike's question.
- John M. Ferrari:
- Yes, sure, Martine. Mike, right now we're not actually seeing any negative impact with the -- I guess, economic situation in Europe. As you know, most of the EU patients are covered by national insurance, so we're not seen any role changes yet on any kind of reimbursement level that's affecting our distributors, which then would -- could affect the price that we saw to the distributors. So it is, as Martine mentioned, an area that we're definitely keeping an eye on since for Remodulin -- about 15% of our Remodulin business comes from Europe. So right now, I mean, it's kind of status quo, but we're keeping an eye on the future and what happens out there.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Thank you, John. And Mike, one thing that I might add is, it's not Europe, but it is actually x U.S., is that we are moving closer and closer to the prospect of Japanese approval for Remodulin and Chinese approval for Remodulin. And so those will be exciting additional markets coming online. We're not going to see those revenues in 2012. But I think that we could definitely see one or both of those countries coming online in the 2013, 2014 timeframe. We have market research that tells us that already today, Flolan does $50 million to $100 million a year in Japan. And wherever Remodulin has gone up against Flolan, the lion's share of the patients end up getting put on Remodulin rather than Flolan. So that augurs very favorably for us in Japan. China is kind of a new land with regard to U.S. pharmaceuticals. But we have a world-class pharmaceutical distribution partner there in Lee's Pharma and the Chinese government is reviewing our regulatory filing. We also have a tremendous network of the best PAH specialist physicians in China because these physicians have gained a lot of familiarity with United Therapeutics from enrolling our FREEDOM trial. And they've gained a lot of respect for Remodulin and our team to be able to begin prescribing Remodulin for their patients. So I think it's pretty exciting for the 2013, 2014 timeframe to see the launch of Japanese and Chinese revenues. And they will begin providing the European revenues a good run for their money in terms of the largest source of x U.S. revenues.
- Operator:
- Our final question is from Liana Moussatos of Wedbush.
- Liana Moussatos:
- You guys just answered my follow-up question.
- Martine A. Rothblatt:
- Perfect, perfect. So that probably means everybody has time to run and get a cup of coffee before their 9
- Operator:
- Thank you for participating in today's United Therapeutics Corporation First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. This call will be available for replay beginning at 11
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