Visteon Corporation
Q2 2014 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Good morning, and welcome to Visteon Second Quarter 2014 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Before we begin this morning's conference call, I would like to remind you this presentation contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future results and conditions, but rather are subject to various factors, risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed in these statements. Please refer to the slide entitled Forward-Looking Information for further information. Presentation materials for today's call were posted on Visteon's website this morning. Please visit www.visteon.com/earnings to download the material if you have not already done so. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference call, Mr. Bob Krakowiak, Visteon's Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations Mr. Krakowiak, you may begin.
- Robert R. Krakowiak:
- Thank you, Jennifer. Good morning, everyone. With us today are Tim Leuliette, Visteon's President and Chief Executive Officer; and Jeff Stafeil, Visteon's Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We appreciate your interest in our company and taking the time to join us for our review of the second quarter of 2014. We have scheduled the meeting for an hour, and will open the lines for your questions after Tim and Jeff's remarks. As previously mentioned, a presentation deck associated with today's call is posted on visteon.com within the Investors section. Also note that our Form 10-Q was filed earlier this morning with the news release. Again, thank you for joining us. And now I will turn it over to Tim.
- Timothy D. Leuliette:
- Thank you, Bob, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. As usual, we have a lot to talk about today, so let's start. I'll be on Page 2, which is entitled Recent Highlights. As you see here, and first of all, as you go through all our financials, you'll see that as per GAAP requirements, we have taken the Interiors' operations and put that into discontinued operations, and how that impacts financials is highlighted where appropriately throughout the presentation. Our sales were $2 billion for the quarter, $1.8 billion excluding discontinued ops. That's 11% up versus the prior quarter -- the prior year. Adjusted EBITDA of $193 million, that's the highest quarterly adjusted EBITDA in our history, $175 million excluding the discontinued operations. Net income of $81 million and adjusted EPS of $1.71. We did, obviously, report a net loss due to a lot of actions in the quarter. The asset impairment, the restructuring, the debt extinguishment, there's a lot of activity in the quarter that we booked through to impact net income. On adjusted free cash flow basis, we had a slight negative for the quarter due to the calendarization of payments to suppliers. In some quarters there's 4 payments, in some there's 2. Year-to-date, however, we've got a positive cash flow of $46 million. The balance sheet remains strong. Cash of $1.4 billion, that's up $417 million; debt of $960 million, $161 million higher; our EBITDA debt to -- trailing EBITDA is about 1.5 turns or under 1.5 turns. A very, very conservative capital structure at this point. As you go to the lower left-hand corner, I think it's important to focus on some of the actions that we had this quarter. We closed the acquisition of JCI in July 1, that's post the quarter, but all that activity occurred, obviously, during the quarter, we prepared for that. I'll talk more about JCI and our vision and purpose for that a little later. We reached an agreement to sell the majority of our Interiors' operations to Cerberus we have one facility remaining that we're working on that per our discussions. And everything is, again, in line with the expectations on value for the entire Interior package. We closed the acquisition of Thermal & Emissions division of Cooper-Standard. That may be small now and small during the immediate future, but I'm going to spend some time a little later on why that's important for us and the -- and for HVCC. And then we agreed to purchase a group annuity contract transferring 1/3 of our U.S. pension liability. I think under Bob's leadership, in this activity, we've done a tremendous significant work in the area of pension, reducing not just the PBO, but our unfunded position. I'll take you through that in a moment. Looking at our 2014 guidance, Jeff will take you through the net increase in guidance, remembering that we will take Interiors out for the entire year. We will bring in JCI and the Thermal business that we bought from Cooper for 6 months. There's a lot of pushes and pulls there, but we'll take you through that. But we thought what was most important here is to start giving you some glimpse of 2015 in a full year environment, where we've got Interiors gone for the year completely, we have Electronics and the Cooper-Standard business in completely for the year, to give you a look at what we see next year. And what we see next year, I think, is quite good. We see revenue up about 13% EBITDA, up 16% year-over-year. And again, all of this is in line with our commitment back in January of a $10 billion Visteon with a $1 billion EBITDA performance by 2017, and we're still stepping in line with that. Let's move on to Page 3. This is a chart we show you every quarter. It's important to understand where vehicles are built and where we do business. For the quarter, 21.9 million vehicles were built around the world. 52% in Asia, it's not shown here, but 26% of those are built in China, meaning that China produces over 1 out of every 4 vehicles on earth. If you are going to grow, if you're going to be a part of this global vehicle environment and want to succeed, you've got to be heavily invested in Asia and China. And as you can see on the bar chart on the right side of the page, that with our reported numbers in Q2, that we mimic the world quite closely, 51% of our business in Asia, 27% in Europe, 19% in the Americas and North America, and 3% in South America. What we've shown here is a sort of insight what happens when we add JCI to the mix. It would have slightly moved us down in Asia, slightly up in Europe. That's a content-driven issue of vehicle content in Europe. JCI brings -- interestingly to note though, that the major growth that JCI is bringing, as well as Asia, so we see quite quickly we'll be back in the 50%, 51% Asian mix of our revenue as the decade progresses. So again, we are well positioned as a company to take advantage of the Asian-centric growth going forward, and this again just reinforces that as you see on Page 3. Moving to Page 4. Let's update the JCI Electronics acquisition. That was completed on July 1, it's a 5,000 people in 20 countries, including 1,400 engineers and specialists and designers around the world. Its focus is on advanced driver information, infotainment. It fits quite well with our strategic direction. It's got some market-leading innovative technologies. I'm going to spend a moment here, in a few moments, on the technology that we saw embedded and excited us about JCI. It diversifies our regional and customer footprint, which is -- which was critical, gives us global scale and I said, it moves us up into the top 2 or 3 in the world in the cockpit ecosystem. The business was -- it is bringing about $1.3 billion in revenue, $58 million in EBITDA for the year ending September 30, 2013. That's the last full year of audited financials that's publicly available for everyone to see. We'll use that as a standard at this point, but to say that on a standalone basis, the EBITDA margin was 4.5%. JCI was investing very heavily in engineering, and I'll show you what some of those products were that are being ready to be launched, but we also see some significant synergies as a result, which I also will share with you in a moment. During the period of 2014 to 2017, JCI's growth is going to be lower than Visteon Electronics growth. And the reason for that is quite simply that when you put a business up for sale, when you are -- have an unclear future, the customer reaction is one of holding back, not giving you business or delaying awards. We saw the same thing that occurred with Visteon back when Visteon was in bankruptcy and coming out of bankruptcy. There was a purgatory period, if you will, where business was not awarded, but then it expanded quite quickly post-clarity. I will tell you, I've been on the road for the last 30 days, with Marty and the team, meeting with the customers, talking about the Electronics business, and we see that growth coming back, and coming back quite strongly. But it will impact post the 2017 period just because of the lead times our industry has. As I said, we got $1 billion of EBITDA target for 2017, and that doesn't yet even include what we call the excitement and the power that JCI will bring later in the decade. Moving on to Page 5, sales growth, as I said, will expand. We're very pleased with the reaction we've seen from customers, but margin expansion is also on the docket. We've said to you in the past that we see a minimum of $40 million of synergies out by 2017. We now are creating a range here of $40 million to $70 million for those synergies. And it's going to cost us about $1 for $1 roughly for those synergies. And we will be taking charges as appropriate beginning this quarter and going throughout next year as we restructure and take advantage of the opportunity to achieve those synergies. Additionally, we will incur about a $20 million of additional IT transformation and other integration costs related to JCI. $7 million of those are already incurred in the first half of 2014. And these amounts are excluded, obviously, from adjusted EBITDA. We are moving as quickly as we can on these synergies. Meetings have been held, all hands meeting here 2 weeks ago. Organization charts are out, structures are being put in place. So quickly, within the first 30 days, everyone knows where they stand, what the structure is going to be and what the organization needs to be to achieve these goals. We will continue to provide update on these, but we're very pleased with, a, the reaction of the customer; b, the economics of this transaction; and c, the opportunities that it brings in technology. Let's move on to Page 6. I want to talk a bit about the acquisition of the T&E, the Thermal & Emission division of Cooper-Standard. Small at this point, yes, $46 million transaction, bringing in EGR or circulated modules, coolant pumps and valves. The whole thing allows us to bring another module to the engine. Let me go back a bit from a historical perspective. If we go back 10 years or so ago, 8 years ago, the only thing that we would bring to an engine would be a cooling module. But over the years, you've started to see more turbochargers. Turbochargers require intercooling to cool that air, to bring air in, in a very controlled way, to help improve the combustion process and allow engines to be smaller. We used to have 2.5 liter naturally aspirated engines, now we have 1.6 liter turbocharged engines. So as engines are smaller, we bring in more air. The air that came through those turbochargers needed to be cooled. If we cool it precisely and have an electronic process that interface with the combustion process, we can make the engines more efficient and we could meet emission numbers. Air is important. This may kind of surprise you a bit, but for every gram of fuel, you burn 14.7 grams of air. Every pound of fuel you burn, 14.7 pounds of air. Meaning, when you fill your gas tank, you'll burn a ton of air to burn that fuel on your tank. So how that air comes into the engine, how it's monitored is very critical. Part of the process now is on the EGR, which helps control the combustion process, provides a whole new module for us on thermal management. The emission regulations and fuel economy regulations are so tight, going forward, that the precise combustion process must be kept to a very narrow bandwidth in what's called the adiabatic combustion process, has to be very closely held. The way to do that is through this additional thermal control modules that we bring to the party. So in this engine cooling, then we added turbocharger intercooling, now we're adding EGR cooling. So a few years ago, when we had one module on an engine. Later in the decade, we will have 3 modules on an engine, and that's not just a U.S. phenomenon or a European phenomenon, it's a global phenomenon of really bringing technology to the engine. And that's what the acquisition of Cooper-Standard meant. It's only $100 million of revenue by 2017, but will expand quite quickly after that period. Moving on to on to Page 7, Pension Update. We were able to buy an annuity for approximately 1/3 of our U.S. pension liability for $1 million over the PBO. This was done with Prudential Insurance. This puts a large piece of our pension into -- obligation into their hands, but it's obviously a very safe and a very appropriate location for the assurance of this forward for those Visteon and hourly employees that were impacted by this. This is part of an overall initiative, and I'll have you move on to Page 8, if you will, to see how this plays through. If you look back on the chart on the left is our overall PBO, the chart on the right is the unfunded position. These are both global in numbers. We referenced the U.S. at the bottom of the chart. You'll see that over time, and this includes a couple of steps, the annuity purchase, as well as the impact of the entire Interior sale. As you know, we have one facility remaining that's in process of transaction this year. That, as we've said to you in the past, reflected a lot of liability being moved off of our balance sheet. We're reflecting the projection of those numbers here to sort of just give you a guess of where we'll be by year end. And you can see that on an overall global basis, we're going to remove, we're going to reduce our global PBO for about $1.9 billion to $1.2 billion in the U.S. from $1.245 billion to $775 million. And on the unfunded position, from $528 million to around $250 million, cutting in half. But in the U.S., considerably better performance, $279 million cutting our unfunded position down to $115 million. And again, to do that in this interest rate environment, I think is quite strong, makes a strong statement of performance. We're pleased with how we continue to work our way at all the elements that affect our balance sheet and protect our performance. The pension is one where we're pleased with that particular situation. Moving on to Page 9, I want to take a moment here to go back to the vision that we outlined in September of 2012. At that point, we listed some actions and activities that we want to accomplish. One was to contribute Climate to Halla and create HVCC. And to improve the value of that business. And I think as we go back and look over time, that has not only been accomplished, but has achieved many of those goals. We become now the second largest in the world. The growth curve there is quite strong. At the time that we were starting this discussion, the HVCC stock was at 17,401, it's now trading in the excess of 50,001. And the future is quite bright for that company and for that stock. We thought we said at that time we'd sell the Interiors business, that's now in process, the sale's announced. We said we'd address the Electronic strategy, we've done that. I'll talk more about that in a moment. We said we'd monetize YFV, we've done that. We said we'd rightsize the corporate activities in line with where we're to the proper balance for the businesses, we're in line with that. Continuing, that's an ongoing process should never done in that area. And we said we'd start doing some more aggressive stock buybacks. And over the last 2 years we've contributed $800 million towards share repurchases, and we still have $375 million of additional authorization remaining. And we said we'd strengthen the balance sheet, and I think -- 2 areas there. Pension activity we've done, as well as the debt refinancing from the bonds to the term debt at a much lower cost, that we've announced also an accomplished this quarter. As we look at the actions we took recently, and we look now to where we're leading on the right side of the page. You see that the new Visteon has got these 2 world-class high growth businesses. They're growing for 2 reasons
- Jeffrey M. Stafeil:
- Great. Thanks, Tim. Thanks, everyone. Turning to Page 21 of the slide deck. And before we get into our financial results for the second quarter of 2014 and our revised guidance, I want to highlight some key items that will impact the numbers. We definitely had a lot of activity in the quarter. As Tim mentioned, beginning in the second quarter, we have reclassified the majority of our Interiors business as discontinued operations in the financial statements. Our income statement has been adjusted to exclude Interior-specific income and expense, and Interior net profit has been reflected on one line item as discontinued operations. Second quarter 2014 results have been recast to conform to this presentation as that results for prior periods. This treatment reduces Visteon's second quarter and year-to-date sales by $258 million and $522 million, respectively. In addition, certain Interior legacy operations still subject to divestiture or wind-down are reflected as the Other product group in our segment reporting. We've also adjusted our full year 2014 guidance for a number of items. In addition to the discontinued operation treatment for the majority of Interiors, we have updated our guidance to reflect the acquisition of JCI Electronics beginning on July 1, the acquisition of Cooper-Standard's Thermal & Emissions division during the third quarter, and for the pension annuitization agreement Tim referenced in his presentation. I will provide more details in our updated guidance later in my presentation after I review our second quarter and year-to-date 2014 financials. Turning to Slide 22, I provide a brief update on our transactions to dispense -- dispose of our Interior operations. As we previously announced, the sale would encompass 3 transactions. We have completed the sale of our interest in Duckyang and have announced an agreement to sell the majority of the remaining business to an affiliate of Cerberus. We are still working to finalize an agreement to sell the last remaining piece of this business, and are targeting an announcement by year end. Overall, the transactions are in line with our previous guidance of an approximately neutral value impact. Regarding the Cerberus transaction, we are anticipating a closing before year end. We will recognize a charge of $173 million in Q2 upon announcement, and anticipate an additional charge of roughly the same amount in the second half of 2014. The vast majority of this anticipated charge is noncash in nature. Turning to Slide 23, we addressed the financial impact for the Interior operation being sold to an affiliate of Cerberus. The adjusted EBITDA of this business was $18 million in 2013 and is $27 million through the second quarter. 2014 adjusted EBITDA includes approximately $7 million of noncash items and approximately $12 million of cash-related commercial agreements. We anticipate the business will have approximately breakeven EBITDA in the back half of the year. The free cash flow for Visteon would be $18 million and $50 million higher, in the first half of 2014 and for the full year of 2013, respectively, if this business was excluded. Further, we anticipate this business will have negative -- would have a negative $65 million cash flow impact for the full year of 2014. At the January 2014, Deutsche Bank conference, we gave adjusted EPS guidance of $2.65 and stated that our Interior operation, in total, had a 45% negative impact. Our prior EPS guidance, excluding Interiors, would have been $3.10 per share. We have now increased our guidance, excluding discontinued operations to $3.30 per share. This reflects improved performance and the acquisition of JCI, partially offset by the elimination of the noncash pension gain discussed earlier and a higher average Visteon share count driven by a delay in launching our accelerated buyback program from the first quarter to the second quarter. Moving to Slide 24, we present our key financial results for second quarter 2014 compared to the second quarter of 2013. The top half of the slide highlights results for our continuing operations, excluding our Interiors business that has been classified or reclassified to discontinued operations. On the bottom half of the slide, we provide key financials, including discontinued operations. As we have explained on prior calls, our financial results are impacted by a number of items that make year-over-year comparisons difficult. The adjusted financial information presented on this slide excludes these items, and represents how we manage the business internally. As non-GAAP financial measures, this adjusted financial information is reconciled to U.S. GAAP financials in the attached appendix on Pages 38 through 40. Additionally, year-over-year comparisons are impacted by the consolidation of our Yanfeng Visteon Electronics operation. The consolidation of YFVE explains a portion of the year-over-year growth in sales, adjusted gross margin, adjusted SG&A and adjusted EBITDA. Adjusted EBITDA, excluding discontinued operations with $175 million in the quarter, were $26 million better than last year. The year-over-year increase reflects improved Climate and Electronics performance, despite unfavorable currency impacts and the consolidation of YFVE. Adjusted EBITDA, including discontinued operations was $193 million in the quarter, which as Tim mentioned was a record for Visteon. Adjusted free cash flow was an outflow of $18 million, $20 million lower than last year. The negative free cash flow in the second quarter of 2014 is more than explained by lower working capital related to the calendar-driven payment delays, which benefited first quarter of 2014 but reversed in the second quarter. I will cover more of the metrics on the following pages. Turning to Slide 25. We compared 2014 second quarter sales and adjusted EBITDA to last year's results. Q2 2014 sales were $1.782 billion or $172 million better than the second quarter of 2013. The increase was driven by the consolidation of YFVE and higher year-over-year sales in Climate, which benefited from net new business wins in Asia, North America and Europe. Total sales, including sales related to our discontinued Interiors operations, were $2.039 billion in the second quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter was $193 million, including discontinued operations or $175 million, excluding discontinued operations. Adjusted EBITDA increased versus 2013 reflecting the consolidation of YFVE, and increased profitability in both the Climates and Electronics product groups. A partial offset to increase product group profits were corporate costs, which increased $5 million year-over-year, reflecting unfavorable currency and a loss of a billing arrangement with our former Lighting business that ended in mid-2013. Turning to Slide 26, we show our second quarter sales and adjusted EBITDA for our 2 main product groups, Climate and Electronics. We will cover the financials for each of these product groups in the following pages. On Page 27, we provide an overview of our 2014 year-to-date results versus the same period last year. Sales increased 10%, driven by the consolidation of YFVE and higher year-over-year volumes and new business wins in Asia and Europe related to our Climate business. Adjusted EBITDA, including discontinued operations, was $363 million, an increase of $59 million versus last year. On Page 28, we provide an overview of Climate sales and adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter and for the year-to-date 2014 versus the prior year. Climate sales in Q2 were $1.332 billion, up $85 million or 7% compared with 2013. For the first 6 months of the year, sales increased $125 million versus last year. The year-over-year increase for both periods largely reflects Hyundai-Kia, net new business wins in Asia, North America and Europe, as well as higher Ford and Hyundai-Kia volumes in Asia. Currency positively impacted both periods as well, largely related to a stronger Korean won and euro, which more than offset the negative impacts of a weaker Thai baht and Indian rupee. Customer agreements include a $12 million commercial claim recognized in the second quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was $147 million and $264 million for the second quarter and year-to-date, respectively. For both periods, adjusted EBITDA increased versus 2013. The increase reflects higher volumes, net new business wins, the $12 million commercial claim and positive business equations in both periods. Partially offsetting these impacts was unfavorable currency largely related to the negative impact that a strengthening Korean won has on our profits, as well as currency transaction losses on balance sheet amounts denominated in currencies other than functional currencies. Climate adjusted EBITDA margin was 11% in the second quarter, 10 basis points higher than the same period last year. On a constant currency basis, Climate adjusted EBITDA margin would have been 12.0% or 110 basis points higher than second quarter 2013. As mentioned last quarter, we have initiated a substantial effort to reduce our exposure to the Korean won by localizing more of our supply and production globally. These efforts will begin to have meaningful impact in 2015, but we will continue to remain significantly exposed to the Korean won for several years in the future. Turning to Slide 29, our electronics sales for the second quarter of 2014 were $443 million and adjusted EBITDA was $50 million. On a year-to-date basis, sales were $882 million and adjusted EBITDA was $107 million. Sales increased versus 2013 for both the quarter and on a year-to-date basis, largely driven by the consolidation of YFVE and net new business wins in Asia, South America and Europe. Adjusted EBITDA increased $20 million in the second quarter versus 2013 and $51 million on a year-to-date basis. For both periods, the increase is primarily driven by the consolidation of YFVE. Net new business wins, positive business equation and favorable currency largely related to a stronger euro also benefited both periods. Second quarter 2014 adjusted EBITDA margin was 11.3%, higher than any quarter of 2013, but slightly lower than the first quarter 2014 margin. As we mentioned on our last earnings call, first quarter 2014 Electronics adjusted EBITDA included approximately $10 million of favorable impacts relating to the timing of commercial settlements and prototype recoveries. The timing of these items can be uneven throughout the year. And in 2014, we recognized a disproportionate amount in the first quarter. On Slide 30, we take a look at our cash flow and our capital structure. Free cash flow was negative $44 million on the second quarter and 0 in the first half of 2014. Adjusted free cash flow, which excludes restructuring and transaction related payments, was negative $18 million in the quarter and positive $46 million year-to-date. Adjusted free cash flow for the second quarter was $64 million lower than the first quarter of 2014. The variance is more than explained by calendar-driven trade working capital payment delays, which benefited the first quarter but reversed in the second quarter. Cash balances, including cash held for sale, were $1.425 billion as of June 30, 2014. And Visteon closed the quarter in a net cash position of $465 million. In the second quarter, Visteon refinanced its existing 6.75% bonds with a new $600 million, 7-year term loan B and also replaced its existing $130 million asset-based revolver with a $200 million, 5-year cash flow revolver that remains undrawn. The term loan interest rate is LIBOR plus 275 basis points, with a 75 basis point LIBOR floor. As mentioned on our first quarter call, we also initiated a $500 million accelerated buyback during Q2. Turning to Slide 31, we provide our 2014 full year financial guidance. As Tim stated, we are updating our full year guidance to reflect better business performance and for the impact of the transaction-related items I discussed a few slides back. Our updated guidance reflects higher adjusted EBITDA, adjusted free cash flow, adjusted earnings per share, than our prior guidance. For the full year, we project the midpoint of sales of $7.6 billion; adjusted EBITDA of $715 million, including discontinued operations; and $690 million, excluding discontinued operations; adjusted free cash flow of $145 million; and adjusted EPS of $3.25 per share, excluding discontinued operations. As Tim mentioned, we anticipate annual synergies from the JCI transaction of between $40 million and $70 million by 2017. To achieve these synergies, we need to invest in integration and restructuring efforts that are currently underway. We have lowered our 2014 free cash flow guidance to reflect an approximate $40 million to $50 million investment into these activities and we anticipate that we will complete these investments in 2015 and spend an additional $25 million to $50 million -- and just correcting a comment, we have, excluding discontinued operations, our EPS guidance, midpoint, is $3.30. Moving to Slide 32, we provide a reconciliation from our prior 2014 full year sales and adjusted EBITDA guidance to our updated guidance. Our updated full year sales guidance is now $7.6 billion compared to $7.8 billion previously. The decrease reflects lost Interior sales of approximately $950 million, partially offset by approximately $700 million of incremental sales related to the JCI Electronics and Cooper-Standards Thermal business. Our updated full year adjusted EBITDA guidance is now for $715 million, including discontinued operations, or $690 million, excluding discontinued operations. The increase versus our prior guidance midpoint of $680 million, reflects $25 million on additional profits related to the transactions, partly offset by the removal of an amortization gain related to certain pension assets. Additionally, the increase versus our prior guidance reflects $10 million of favorable performance that we expect to achieve by year end. On Slide 33, we provide our full year 2015 preliminary sales and adjusted EBITDA guidance. As you recall, we provided 2017 guidance at the Deutsche Bank conference shortly after we announced the JCI Electronics acquisition. Specifically, we estimated 2017 sales and adjusted EBITDA to be approximately $10 billion and $1 billion, respectively. We are still on track to achieve these results. For the full year 2015, we project sales to be between $8.5 billion and $8.7 billion, and adjusted EBITDA to be between $780 million and $820 million. Our 2015 guidance assumes we complete the sale of all Interior operations by the year-end 2014. Moving to Slide 34, we provide a reconciliation from our 2014 full year sales and adjusted EBITDA guidance to our 2015 guidance. Our 2015 sales guidance is $8.6 billion or $1 billion higher than full year 2014 guidance. The increase primarily reflects an additional half year of sales for JCI Electronics and Cooper-Standard's Thermal business, as well as the benefit of net new business wins and higher volumes during 2015. Our midpoint 2015 full year adjusted EBITDA guidance is $800 million or $110 million higher than our updated 2014 full year guidance, excluding discontinued operations. The increase reflects an additional half year of profits related to the acquisitions, as well as positive net new business wins and positive cost performance, partially offset by the loss of approximately $5 million of adjusted EBITDA related to other legacy Interior operations that were not included in discontinued operations, but we expect to sell by the end of the year. Now let me turn the presentation back to Bob for Q&A.
- Robert R. Krakowiak:
- Thank you, Tim and Jeff. Jennifer, please open the line for questions.
- Operator:
- [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Colin Langan with UBS.
- Colin Langan:
- Any color when we look at the '15 guidance, sales looked quite strong, but the EBITDA margin seems fairly flat year-over-year. Any factors going on into '15 that are mitigating that upside, particularly given that there should be some synergies coming through for JCI?
- Jeffrey M. Stafeil:
- Yes. We definitely see the synergies starting to come through, Colin, but remember that JCI -- the historical business of JCI, had lower margins than our combined business. That will have a little bit of a drag. The synergies we talked about, we have pacing their way into our operations over a couple of years as well, too. So they certainly will not all hit next year. So I think both the 2 will have a little bit of a weighting factor on our margin, but it should continue to increase as we approach 2017.
- Colin Langan:
- Okay, and looking at Slide 5, I mean, it says $40 million to $70 million in JCI synergies. That's above your prior estimates that you previously had said $40 million, is not right?
- Jeffrey M. Stafeil:
- We said minimum of $40 million in the past, Colin. So we've given you a range with, obviously, starting at $40 million. But we think we could probably do a little bit better than that.
- Colin Langan:
- And when does that starts phasing in through '17? And what were the -- any color on what those major items within the synergies are?
- Timothy D. Leuliette:
- The numbers here are to be accomplished by 2017. So they start phasing in next year. As we've said, we'll layer them in, and as Jeff said, phase in through the next couple of years. The activities are basically in 3 buckets as far as synergies go. One, there was embedded inside the performance of JCI, some corporate overhead charges from JCI. Ours are probably going to be a little different than that. So there's an element there, and those are probably easier to achieve more quickly, obviously. And then the other ones are in the SG&A and engineering side where there is now, obviously, additional engineers in the system, additional SG&A people. But we are going to make prioritization of programs between the 2. And to that degree, there will be some synergies to come out, some efficiencies that we can book. And then the last and the slower piece of this is probably a facility or 2. I think, as we said in the past, that is manufacturing and purchasing, and those will take -- purchasing takes a little -- is a little quicker, manufacturing takes a little longer because there are some facility-related actions there. So those 3 buckets of corporate SG&A, product group SG&A and engineering and manufacturing and purchasing, those 3 buckets are the focal area -- focus area of the savings potential. Each has its own timeline.
- Colin Langan:
- And when we think about -- and these are just cost synergies. So the revenue synergies probably are going to took over 3 years since you adopt to start winning the business today.
- Timothy D. Leuliette:
- Yes. I mean -- yes. Right, today, as I was sitting out, as we have said we have been out in the road here around the world in the last 30 days, and primarily we're talking 2018 programs. I mean, it's just the lead time of the business. So they may have a tail of launch into 2017 some of them, but for the most part, these are 2018 calendar events. And I think we've said in the past, the reason we still feel comfortable with our 2017 target of $10 billion and $1 billion is because, for the most part in our industry, we know what business we've won. The confidence level in the business revenue base by then is really good. The technology revolution and the real impact of JCI will extend -- is really going to impact on a revenue basis 2018 and beyond. And that's just the nature of the lead time in the industry.
- Colin Langan:
- Okay. That makes sense. And then is there any tax impact? I mean, your tax rate, on a GAAP basis seems pretty high, particularly there's that discrepancy between your operating taxes and your GAAP taxes. Does the Interiors divestiture and JCI deal help improve your tax situation at all?
- Jeffrey M. Stafeil:
- The Interiors divestiture should start to improve our effective tax. It won't approve -- improve our actual dollars paid. For the most part those operations weren't paying much tax at all, and were for losses that we couldn't take the income tax benefit for. So you'll see -- should start to see some improvement in rate there. I think for JCI, eventually, we will start to get some positive elements there, too. Over time, as I've kind of said in the past, our goal is to make our effective tax rate much clearer. I think with all the noise in 2014, it's harder to see. We'll give you a better view of what the tax situation looks like when we get to next year or when we get to the Deutsche Bank conference, and give a more detailed view of what 2015 looks like. We'll give you an update on what tax picture. But it should get better as we go year to year to year.
- Operator:
- And your next question is from the line of Brian Johnson with Barclays.
- Steven Hempel:
- It's actually Steven Hempel on for Brian Johnson. I just wanted to drill down on the integration of HVCC and Visteon's core Climate business. I believe that's been progressing now for roughly 6 quarters now. I guess how much more should we expect from a synergy perspective in terms of combining those businesses. I believe you closed that business in January of last year. And also, if you could just -- related to a housekeeping question, how much of a revenue headwind should we be expecting moving forward from the wind-down of the legacy Climate business that wasn't transferred to HVCC? I believe on our estimates, roughly a 300, 350 basis point headwind this quarter.
- Timothy D. Leuliette:
- Well, let me answer some of these questions and the guys will dig into some of the others as I'm talking. First of all, we have, for the most part, taken advantage of the engineering SG&A and other people-related synergies of the combining of the businesses as of yet -- up until now. But the remaining issue is sort of the manufacturing side, and it was related to the fact that compressors -- let's take compressors, for example. We had 8 different families of compressors between the 2 companies, and we're now launching a consolidated line. That launch is in later this year for the first phase of that. So the manufacturing synergies, which are another -- and I will say probably in the neighborhood of 50 to 100 basis points remaining of synergy impact, will occur from both the purchasing -- consolidated purchasing, as well as the manufacturing consolidations, specifically in compressors and other areas. So you still have remaining some synergistic activities within the longer lead items. Also, we -- as result of the companies coming together, we're seeing some growth leverage that we didn't -- that was not available to either one of them in the past. And so, again, we've talked about a 7% CAGR of growth net, net, net after productivity impacted by exchange, et cetera. We're still very comfortable of that as a threshold of growth for that business going forward in the foreseeable future.
- Jeffrey M. Stafeil:
- Yes. Let me address the last part of your question, relating to some of the legacy Climate business that didn't go with the initial deal. That business, as you mentioned, did decline a bit year-over-year in 2013 to 2014 from a sales standpoint. You see that in our guidance, you see that in our numbers. There is -- I would say, roughly, you still have about $100 million of that business, maybe a little bit more. Some of that business will continue to eke away. It doesn't have a lot of margin today. Some of that business will remain a very long time. So I would say, that's certainly a slower growth part of our Climate portfolio, but it's certainly also built into all of the numbers. It has a bit of a margin drag compared to -- if you looked at just the HVCC financials. But at this point, it's fairly neutral. It's going to probably get a little bit better, starting now probably going forward.
- Steven Hempel:
- Okay. And then could you provide any additional color or clarity around the strategic direction you want to take with this 70% stake in HVCC, whether that would be monetizing some of the stake, take it down to 51% or acquiring a larger position for tax purposes?
- Timothy D. Leuliette:
- I think what we've said in the past is that, long term, we see that a 70% ownership is probably an inappropriate holding. But we also are cognizant of the contribution that HVCC makes to us with its current performance and what its growth may pertain. So I think, at this point, we won't speculate probably about where we're going to head on that other than to reinforce the statement I think we've made numerous times in the past, which is, basically, we are here to optimize shareholder value. And we will look at, continuously, at what is the best utilization of the capital structure we have today.
- Steven Hempel:
- Okay. And then just one last one on the '15 guidance here, including JCI Electronics. Does that include the backlog from JCI's Electronics business? And -- because it looks like you're only expecting roughly a 3% CAGR for JCI Electronics through 2017. And for the combined Electronics business, overall, you're looking for around 8% CAGR. I believe you discussed in the past cockpit electronics industry CAGR of around 12%. Is there some headwinds within JCI Electronics business that we should be aware of moving forward?
- Timothy D. Leuliette:
- As I stated, and this is, I guess, a good question is to be clear, is that JCI, when the company was delegated to be non-core, it was put up for sale. It impacts its ability to attract new business. And that was occurring over the last few years of JCI. We saw the same phenomena here at Visteon when we were challenged during the bankruptcy period. Long term, as I said, the immediate reaction once the business was closed and we've met with customers, is the order book is now starting to, again, approach the figures of where we were at Visteon. It will take some time for those businesses to be launched. So you go through a period of purgatory, which JCI is going through now. The decisions on businesses being launched in '15 and '16, were decisions made with customers in '12 and '13. The other core issue is that there is some segments in that business that are non-core to us, that we will not be prioritizing, it's a small piece, but that affects us by a couple of basis points. Also, over time, we see this industry still growing at 10% and 12% CAGR. We do see, however, year-to-year, youβre going to get dynamics depending upon vehicle launches. '15 is a year of decent growth, '16 is a better growth year for Visteon Electronics because of the order book. So you get some cyclicality just because of vehicle launches. So JCI will be less than Visteon over the short term, but we don't see any dichotomy as we start hitting 2018 and beyond just with customer reaction.
- Steven Hempel:
- Okay. And then it looks like JCI's contributing roughly $23 million based on our calculation for 2014 EBITDA, which implies about 3.5% margin. Is that related, largely related to purchase accounting adjustments? And then, if so, how much of that impact will it have on 2015 EBITDA margin?
- Jeffrey M. Stafeil:
- Yes. The -- It will start to blend away, such that we won't really be able to segregate what portion of our EBITDA relates to the old JCI Electronics business. It will start to morph -- one of the synergies we're going to have as we pursue all the synergies, but as we pursue in particular the admin synergies, the -- we're going to be combining our functions in this operation. And the quicker we combine them, the quicker we'll have benefits on the margin. Initially, it's a little bit difficult because even a lot of the services that were previously part of JCI corporate we're paying in a TSA, our services agreement, to them for several months as we transitioned those operations onto our own platforms and our own systems and our own capabilities and our own people. So all those things -- for instance, we talked about there's $12 million of corporate cost we paid or they paid to the JCI corporate, those costs take some integration and some time for us to sort of completely work off of. All those things will continually bring a better margin story for our combined Electronics business, probably over the course of the next 12 months as we work through those.
- Operator:
- And our final question comes from the line of Itay Michaeli from Citi.
- Itay Michaeli:
- Just to continue on the Electronics conversation, the revenue synergies beyond 2017. What's still the best way for us to model that if JCI is growing at 3%? Do you think that -- maybe you can get that up to 5%, 6%, 7% as we think about the opportunity to accelerate that growth beyond 2017? I know it's just early, but I just want to try and get a sense of what you think that target should be?
- Timothy D. Leuliette:
- It is a little early. And again, we're actively in the marketplace now. I would say that in 2018, you'll start to see, over 1 year or 2, the growth of what we call, at that point, JCI Electronics, and try to track it, approaching that of Visteon historically. It becomes difficult to track independently because you start to morph. Some of these agreements, some of these contracts have significant value to them. If we look at the Fusion contracts, those contracts are, by themselves, $100 million to $150 million, sometimes $200 million a year. So they have significant impact once achieved. And so winning 1 of those or 2 of those has a significant impact on the numbers. But we see that there's no reason why the new Visteon Electronics, which includes the JCI elements, cannot approach the prior-Visteon growth curve within a couple of years post the 2017 time frame.
- Itay Michaeli:
- That's very helpful, Tim. And then just on the margins for 2017. It seems like with the synergies for JCI, and the very strong performance in the last few quarters for Electronics, I mean, maybe you're tracking a little bit ahead of 10%. Is that true? Maybe is there an upward bias of that 10% margin in 2017 and you're using a couple of things like additional R&D and other investments that you have to make to achieve the growth beyond 2017.
- Timothy D. Leuliette:
- Well, I think a couple of points. One, and as Jeff highlighted, obviously, Visteon Electronics came in strong at above the 10% EBITDA level. But we're going to hit a great JCI, which will take that number down, so we got to recoup that back to the 10% level. I think from our perspective, 2017 is -- with $1 billion target, and there's probably upside to that number over time, is that we're comfortable with $1 billion and the implied 10% or so that, that represents, at least from a planning number today. I'm sure as we get closer, we'll be able to enhance that number more. But I think as you look at us marching through the next couple of years of that, on an EBITDA CAGR basis, it's quite a strong growth curve for any company in our sector, any company in our industry. And we're comfortable with that. And as I said, our job here is always to meet or exceed those numbers the best we can as we go forward.
- Itay Michaeli:
- That's helpful. And then just 2 quick last follow-ups on cash flow. Any kind of guidance or direction to think about the big buckets to 2015? And then also any change at all to the 2017 free cash flow of around maybe $250 million, if I recall correctly.
- Jeffrey M. Stafeil:
- Yes. I guess the last part of your question, on 2017, we haven't changed our outlook on that. We'll obviously do as many things as we can take to continue to find ways to outperform that number. But that number hasn't changed. As it relate to next year cash flow guidance, we'll come with a much better view on that when we get to the end of the year. I don't think there's going to be massive surprises. I gave you a little bit of a view of some of the tail over, probably integration expense we'll have on the JCI acquisition, a little bit of restructuring to achieve some of the synergies. Overall, we should have less noise than we did this year, certainly, excluding -- we gave you some guidance, too, on what the Interiors business, how that impacts not only our first half of the year but a bit of how it impacts our entire year of 2014. Obviously, we expect that to not be in the numbers. All those things will be some tailwind a bit on some of those cash flow numbers.
- Timothy D. Leuliette:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- And that was our last question. And I would like to turn the conference back to Mr. Krakowiak.
- Robert R. Krakowiak:
- Thank you, Jennifer. I would like to thank everyone for their participation in today's call. If you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact me at your convenience. Now I'd like to turn it over to Tim for his final comments. Tim?
- Timothy D. Leuliette:
- Thank you, Bob. For those of you who have been following us for a few years, you know that we've established 2014 as the ending of the cleanup, paint up and fix up era of Visteon. And that we would transition in the pure focus of 2 strong high-growth businesses, well financed with a good Asian footprint to grow and expand upon. I think you can see that in these numbers. This was a quarter from a standpoint of a press release and a presentation that was more complicated, with a lot more details associated, with a lot of the goes ins and goes outs of the Interiors' discontinued operations, et cetera. But all of these are the positive elements of achieving the goal of getting this company to focus on this 2 strong businesses. I've been very pleased with the performance of the team this quarter. We see the rest of the year as being bright despite the challenges, macroeconomic around the world, et cetera. Our growth is not predicated on more vehicle builds as much as it's predicated on the content of the vehicle builds that are there. So we're comfortable with our future, and we very much appreciate your support through the years. And we look forward to talking to many of you. I know that there are some calls lined up and we'll be hitting some conferences here in next month or 2. We look forward to seeing you there. So thank you so much for your support. And again, we'll talk to you next quarter. Thank you.
- Jeffrey M. Stafeil:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. This does conclude today's conference call and you may now disconnect.
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