Valley National Bancorp
Q2 2021 Earnings Call Transcript

Published: 22 Jul 2021

[Operator:]

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Valley National Bancorp Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker, Travis Lan, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

[Travis Lan:]

Good morning, and welcome to Valley's second quarter 2021 earnings conference call. Presenting on behalf of Valley today are President and CEO, Ira Robbins; Chief Financial Officer, Mike Hagedorn; and Chief Banking Officer, Tom Iadanza. Before we begin, I would like to make everyone aware that our quarterly earnings release and supporting documents can be found on our Company website at valley.com. When discussing our results, we refer to non-GAAP measures, which exclude certain items from reported results. Please refer to today's earnings release for reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures. Additionally, I would like to highlight Slide 2 of our earnings presentation and remind you that comments made during this call may contain forward-looking statements relating to Valley National Bancorp and the banking industry. Valley encourages all participants to refer to our SEC filings, including those found on Form 8-K, 10-Q and 10-K for a complete discussion of forward-looking statements. With that, I'll turn the call over to Ira Robbins.

[Ira Robbins:]

Thank you, Travis, and welcome to those of you listening into the call. This morning, I want to discuss our recently announced acquisition of The Westchester Bank, as well as our targeted efforts to capitalize on disruption opportunities in our markets. Mike will then provide additional details on the financial results before opening the call to your questions. In the second quarter of 2021, we reported a net income of $121 million, earnings per share of $0.29 and return on average assets of 1.17%. For the fourth consecutive quarter, this represents the highest level of quarterly earnings in Valley's entire history. On an adjusted basis, return on average assets was 1.23%, reflecting strong net interest margin performance, improved fee income and a stable provision for loan losses. Looking forward, we expect that additional balance sheet growth and core margin stability will continue to drive strong financial performance and shareholder value over time. A few weeks ago, we announced the acquisition of The Westchester Bank. We are thrilled with the opportunity to partner with this high-performing commercial bank and look forward to having President and CEO, John Tolomer, lead our combined efforts in the Westchester market. This is a dynamic area with significant household wealth and commercial lending opportunities. Westchester also contributes a strong core funding base and physical delivery presence in this attractive market.

[Michael Hagedorn:]

Thank you. Ira. Turning to Slide 5, you can see that Valley's reported net interest margin increased to 3.18% from 3.14% in the first quarter of 2021. Exclusive of the impact of PPP loans, we estimate that net interest margin would have been 3.07% versus 3.05% in the prior quarter. This improvement reflects meaningful funding cost reductions, partially offset by the drag associated with carrying a higher cash balance. Much of the quarter's loan growth occurred in June and will more meaningfully impacts third quarter results. We continue to actively manage the funding side of the balance sheet and drove another 9 basis point reduction in our interest-bearing liability costs during the quarter. Interest-bearing deposit costs continue to decline due to a significant reduction in time deposit costs and balances. We also benefited from continued growth in non-interest-bearing deposits.

[Ira Robbins:]

Thanks, Mike. We are extremely proud of the strong growth and financial performance achieved this quarter. Our net interest margin has been extremely resilient, reflecting our active balance sheet management and loan and deposit tailwinds. We continue to identify unique opportunities for growth and remain focused on driving positive operating leverage. Valley's future is extremely bright, and we are committed to remaining a high performing institution for the benefit of all of our stakeholders. With that I'd like to now turn the call back over to the operator to begin Q&A. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Thank you. And our first question coming from the line of Frank Schiraldi from Piper Sandler. Your line is open.

[Frank Schiraldi:]

Hey guys, good morning.

[Ira Robbins:]

Hi, Frank.

[Michael Hagedorn:]

Good morning, Frank.

[Frank Schiraldi:]

Just wondered if you could talk a little bit about the recent lending hires, particularly down in Florida. Are those teams still ramping up, and did you add anyone in the quarter?

[Thomas Iadanza:]

Hey Frank. It's Tom Iadanza. We continue to add where we think we're going to get revenue enhancement. We added 14 in total in Florida over the last, I'll say six to nine months, eight in New York, New Jersey. We on-boarded three during the second quarter, we have offers out for a few more. We are starting to experience the benefits of their pipeline build and their pull forward into loans, deposits, relationships for the bank, but as you know, it usually takes six to nine months to build a pipeline to start on boarding, but we're starting to see the benefits of that already.

[Frank Schiraldi:]

Okay. Great. Thanks. And then Ira you mentioned laser-focused on positive operating leverage, you also mentioned the higher expenses due to investments in the near-term. Just wondering if maybe you could – it sounded to me like maybe the efficiency ratio could tick up than in the near-term and just wondered if you could maybe give the thoughts there are any governors around that over the next couple of quarters?

[Ira Robbins:]

Yes. Thanks, Frank. I think when we look at our adjusted efficiency ratio, obviously the current number is impacted because of PPP as well, but we have, as you mentioned, done a lot over the last few years to try to right size the organization based on an appropriate foundation to really grow. We think as we said during our earlier comments, really gotten to a point where maybe there's a bit more focus within the organization on revenue enhancement and putting the appropriate infrastructure in place to really leverage that to a greater degree. Mike can you give a bit more commentary.

[Michael Hagedorn:]

Yes. Frank, this is Mike. The revenue lags, as you all know sometimes the people investments, and as Tom said, we've made some of those and in our prepared remarks you heard some comments around some other hires as well that are not just in the revenue producing part of the business. So what I would say at this point is our past run rate the last several quarters was around $157 million. I think our adjusted expenses this quarter of $160 million are more indicative of what the go-forward run rate will be.

[Ira Robbins:]

And just to put in some kind of context, Frank, when you think about growth within the organization, it's not just on the revenue side, some of the new hires that Tom referenced earlier, but it's also on the technology side and how we think about the dollar – of an investment on the technology, what's the benefit from an automation perspective is going to look like down the road. On average, we spent about 52% of our technology dollars on running the bank compared to about 68%, according to Gartner where most banks are. So there's a lot of investment we have internally going into improve and transform Valley from a customer experience perspective as well as we think from a benefit over on the efficiency side. So the dollars that we are spending are on both on the revenue side and on the operating side on that expense side to really prove out our future operating efficiencies.

[Frank Schiraldi:]

Okay. I just want to make sure I understand that. Now, I'm not so sure on in terms of the efficiency ratio. The messaging is then that it might kind of hover around here in the near-term or could it tick up in the near-term? Any color on that.

[Ira Robbins:]

When you back out PPP is going to tick up, right. So let's just do the math right there, you're going to have an uptick just overall based on that. There will be some additional investments that are going to come that we think will provide some positive operating leverage as we continue to move forward and the revenues are going to follow that. And that being said, as Tom referenced, we hired 14 people on the revenue side about six to nine months ago, we should begin to see some benefit from them, starting in the next quarter as well and that will mitigate some of the additional expenses that we're describing.

[Frank Schiraldi:]

Got you. Okay. Thank you.

[Operator:]

And our next question is coming from the line of Steven Alexopoulos with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

[Steven Alexopoulos:]

Hey. Good morning, everyone.

[Ira Robbins:]

Hey, Steven.

[Steven Alexopoulos:]

Just to start on the loan side, I know you guys said last quarter, the loan pipeline was strong heading into this quarter, but the $2.6 billion was a really great result. Can you talk about the competitive landscape that you saw as you were booking those originations, and do you think you can sustain that level of originations here?

[Thomas Iadanza:]

Sure. Hey, Steven, it's Tom Iadanza. Our pipeline on the commercial side remains strong. We're about $2.6 billion, with half of that being loans that we've approved that are in stages of documentation to close. That level, that 1.3 level is in line with what we reported at March 31. So that piece of the pipeline, despite active closings, especially in June of this year is building and that segment of closing is at the same levels as we had in the last quarter. We are seeing a slowdown on the consumer side, especially in auto and on some of the refinance activity on the resi side. The expectations – slightly over 7% annualized for the first six months, we think that number will hold up in the second half of the year.

[Steven Alexopoulos:]

But what about the competitive environment, Tom? Could you comment on that? Particularly, I'm curious Northeast versus Southeast.

[Thomas Iadanza:]

Sure. As you know, there's some disruption from other merger activity in both markets, we're benefiting from that through the attraction of people as well as customers. We are actively onboarding those customers we assisted with PPP. We are building loan pipeline and loan portfolio and deposit from that. We have – what we instituted years back was a very focused customer solicitation program identifying what a core customer is at Valley's, identifying programs and processes to onboard them, cross-selling them and then rewarding our people based on their performance. That's not new, that we've been doing that, that has reaped benefits for us and created a consistency. The Northeast has been very steady growth for us though we're getting faster growth in the Southeast. The competitive landscape is active, it's there, it's not just banks, but we are getting our fair share.

[Steven Alexopoulos:]

Okay. That's helpful. And Ira following up, I think you called that $1 billion of deposits tied from various initiatives, which included the cannabis business. Could you give us an update on cannabis and maybe what portion of those deposits are in that business now?

[Ira Robbins:]

So at this point, it's about a third of those deposits are coming from the cannabis sector. I think we've been very focused on that Steve, making sure that we have the right risk appetite day-one. We spent about 18 months devising our internal approaches to how we want to go about it to make sure it was consistent with the risk appetite of Valley. We have targeted the large multi-state operators as we think they provide the appropriate risk for us, as we look at who we want to partner with here. And there is real opportunity there. We are banking Tier 1 customers in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida and Illinois at this point.

[Steven Alexopoulos:]

Okay. That's helpful. And then finally, Ira just following up on your prepared comments where you ran through M&A priorities, which I don't recall you doing before. Are you signaling that you're maybe more actively pursuing additional M&A here and we've seen quite a few larger deals from your peers, how are you thinking about a larger deal here? Thanks.

[Ira Robbins:]

Yes. Look, I probably maybe a bit more formal today as to some of the financial guardrails, but definitely internally and in other conversations, this is sort of I think guardrail that we're pretty comfortable with. I think probably today we're maybe a bit more focused on targets that could accelerate some of the revenue growth, our revenue diversification versus straight up expense opportunities that may have shifted a little bit from where we were maybe a couple of quarters or even a few years ago. We do think there is a significant amount of disruption in the marketplace today, and as a result of that there is real opportunity for us to look at leveraging revenue growth within our footprint as well as individual asset classes, and we're really excited about that. That said, some of the deals that I've seen where you have three years of tangible book value earn-back, just seem excessive to me.

[Steven Alexopoulos:]

Okay. And what about you guys pursuing a larger deal here?

[Ira Robbins:]

Larger than the Bank of Westchester probably.

[Steven Alexopoulos:]

Yes. Well, even MOE, right. I mean, some of the deals that you've seen have been MOE like.

[Ira Robbins:]

I think the MOE has to really makes sense. I'm really excited as is our team about the organic initiatives we have here. I think a lot of them are really beginning to come to fruition. And if we are to do an MOE or something of significant size, it has to make real strategic sense for us from the revenue expansion perspective. And if it doesn't, we're very comfortable, which is going down the path that we're going. We think we're generating at this point well above peer returns and we think we have a path to continue that and really accelerate it. So by no means that we feel any kind of pressure by any means that we need to start looking at an MOE because there is technology gaps that we have, because there's market gaps that we have, because there's talent gaps that we have. Quite the contrary, I think our organic opportunities are probably much better than what our peers are, and there is absolutely zero pressure on our end to do anything of an MOE based on being of back into a corner.

[Steven Alexopoulos:]

That's really helpful color. Thanks for taking my questions.

[Ira Robbins:]

Thanks, Steve.

[Operator:]

And our next question is coming from the line of Michael Perito with KBW. Your line is open.

[Michael Perito:]

Hey guys. Thanks for taking my questions.

[Ira Robbins:]

Hi, Michael.

[Michael Perito:]

I want to just start clarifying. Mike, just I want to make sure I heard you right on the NIM. So you're saying that the core or adjusted NIM will be between 3% and 3.05% for the balance of the year here and then PPP will be either on top of that or a detriment to that depending on the pace of forgiveness.

[Michael Hagedorn:]

Yes. So it will be on top of that. So that's the core. Let's just use the second quarter numbers 3.18% was the reported result, ex-PPP it's 3.07%. And as a reminder, the $2 billion we had in excess cash roughly weighed on NIM and other 2 basis points. So as we think about NIM compression going forward, PPP forgiveness, both volume and absolute impact trailing off as we get more and more of those balances off the balance sheet. We think that the core NIM stability that we're shooting for is between 3% and 3.05%. I would say the most recent quarter coming up bias would be towards the higher end of that.

[Michael Perito:]

Right. I was going to say, I mean if the growth is where you guys are suggesting it should be, that would make sense. And then on the fee side, I believe you guys had close to if not your highest quarter you've had on kind of the trust and investment side, and then biggest quarter you've had on the insurance commission side year and a half maybe, just curious if you guys can comment on some of the trends there, and maybe what we should be expecting near-term on fee growth?

[Thomas Iadanza:]

Yes. Hey, Michael, it's Tom Iadanza. On the insurance side, a lot of that is coming through our title company and an improvement in our general insurance agency that we operate. The title business will continue to grow, maybe not at the same pace relative to the growth in the refinance and the residential market for us, as well as they do a lot of commercial business. So we expect that to be steady, may not grow at the same pace it has grown in the last quarter, and I think overall our fees on the wealth trusts and insurance business should be flat to slightly up.

[Michael Perito:]

Helpful. And then just last question for me. I saw a couple of articles that had linked you guys to the condo that collapsed in South Florida. Just curious if you guys could comment on whether there was any lending or depository relationship there? And maybe just give us a refresher on kind of how you underwrite those types of relationships in that marketplace, that would be great.

[Thomas Iadanza:]

Yes, sure. We had no loans outstanding on that property. The general portfolio that we have on the HOAs relative to our size are small, it's about $250 million of outstandings. The waterfront high rise is $7 million of outstanding to less than $25 million in commitments. Our portfolio is primarily inland, around golf community, single-family and townhouse. From a depository the portfolio generates $800 million in deposits, and as I said before, $250 million or less, slightly less than in loans, our average loan in our portfolio is 425,000.

[Michael Perito:]

Really helpful, Tom. Thanks. And obviously, not a huge number, but just in terms of the underwriting process of those types of buildings, is there are some type of like property condition assessment, that's part of your process there or apologize probably a pretty simplistic question, but any additional color would be helpful?

[Thomas Iadanza:]

Absolutely, and another references following Hurricane Andrew back in the 90s, the requirements for building and safety in the buildings was enhanced and the bulk of our loans, if not most of our loans were done were buildings that were done after those product improvements and process improvements. From an underwriting standpoint, we have an in-house engineer that reviews all of the advances on any of the construction or improvement parts of the loan that we may have, and we have third parties will also review.

[Michael Perito:]

Very helpful. So I guess at this point safe to say that you guys feel – well, small and ultra size still feel pretty decent about that portfolio and the properties that are within it?

[Thomas Iadanza:]

Yes. And again, keep in mind, it's primarily townhouse and single-family homes inland and it's a deposit business primarily for us. We lead with deposits in that business.

[Michael Perito:]

Great. Thank you for spending a minute on that. I appreciate it. And thanks for answering my other questions.

[Operator:]

Our next question is coming from the line of Steven Duong with RBC Capital. Your line is open.

[Steven Duong:]

Hi. Good morning, guys.

[Ira Robbins:]

Good morning, Steven.

[Steven Duong:]

Ira, just your Westchester Bank acquisition and I assume you've been in discussions with different markets. Can you share with us your Florida market sales versus your metro New York market? How are they different in terms of maybe activity and opportunities?

[Travis Lan:]

Yes. Steven, this is Travis Lan. Just got to step in and try respond and then Ira can clean up what I miss. But the issue with us, look, we'd love to do an acquisition forward I think, but that market, there's not as many targets and the targets that exist are highly valued I would say and make the economics a little bit more challenging, and I think that's why you saw us go out on the more of a hiring push earlier this year because we identified the fact that it was unlikely that we would do an acquisition in Florida in the near-term. So organic growth opportunities were more significant and that's where we focused our efforts. There’s more opportunities up in the Northeast, but we look kind of you can tell with Westchester across the size spectrum. And as Ira said we're focused on strategic opportunities to grow revenues and Westchester is a very high performing bank despite its size, and you can look at the earnings accretion, say 1% is immaterial, but what that doesn't capture is the opportunity for us to provide them products they don't have today and to accelerate their growth with our capital and balance sheet resources. So I think that's part of why it was so compelling and Ira?

[Ira Robbins:]

Nothing else to say to that Travis.

[Steven Duong:]

Great. Thanks, Travis. And then just moving on to the loan growth, I mean really great quarter all around. A lot of the growth came from your CRE portfolio. Can you just give us some color on – was that primarily in Florida in any specific type of CRE?

[Thomas Iadanza:]

Sure. It was well balanced across the regions. Florida represented about 40% of our productions and 55% of our growth. More importantly, it was distributed evenly in product types between apartment, industrial, some retail to essential type of properties. Average loan size was in line with our previous performance. $4.5 million was the average loan size. Weighted average loan to value was 53%, and debt service average was over 1.5x. Very equally balanced between New York, New Jersey, Florida and Alabama.

[Steven Duong:]

That's great to hear. Tom, I guess, you mentioned that the 7% year-to-date in the beginning. It looks like you feel comfortable that you may be in that range for the second half of the year, do you expect a similar performance with CRE as well?

[Thomas Iadanza:]

I would expect CRE will be still the larger generator, the C&I business were a little hamstrung in that through our line utilization, companies are not borrowing better than you're paying down. Our average utilization went from 41% to 38% quarter-to-quarter. So we're still producing C&I business, slight uptick, but it's a little bit harder of a road.

[Steven Duong:]

Understood. I appreciate the color and congrats on the good quarter.

[Ira Robbins:]

Thank you.

[Thomas Iadanza:]

The only other thing to add is that we also continue to exit non-relationship, low-yielding business and we had about $175 million of that repaid in the second quarter and $300 million year-to-date, primarily assets obtained through the Oritani purchased at New York City multifamily type. So we'll continue to do that and still experienced a growth that we're suggesting.

[Steven Duong:]

Understood. Thank you.

[Operator:]

Our next question is coming from the line of Matthew Breese with Stephens Inc. Your line is open.

[Matthew Breese:]

Good morning.

[Ira Robbins:]

Good morning, Matt.

[Michael Hagedorn:]

Good morning, Matt.

[Matthew Breese:]

I'd like to drill down into expenses a bit more. So Mike, you mentioned that the $160 million of operating expenses is more indicative of where we're going, but I get the sense from Ira's commentary that the $160 million is really a starting point where we could see some growth. So my question is what do you expect to add on top of $160 million? What do you anticipate growth from here? Or am I – do I got my read wrong?

[Michael Hagedorn:]

I don't think you had the read wrong, as you look now, I'm talking about a multi-year look out, I'm not talking about next quarter. So on a multi-year look out, especially some of the technology investments, and not so much the software and the related depreciation, but the people that we're bringing on board to accomplish the technology build out over time are going to drive expenses higher, over time is it's inevitable. But I want to point you back to what Ira and I both said to the prior question around it. Those investments are being made while you may not get that one to one relationship when you actually see the financial benefit of it. Those investments are being made so that we can be a more efficient entity in the future, we can service customers differently and faster, we can release some of the redundancies in our processes and streamline our workflows. Those benefits show up after those technology projects are put in place, and I want to be clear about this, I'm talking about a multi-year kind of view forward.

[Ira Robbins:]

Yes. Matt, maybe I’ll just add to that. This is not a first Niagara by any means as to how you think about, when we think about expenses here. When three or four years ago when we first started talking about some of the initiatives we were going to do from a strategic perspective, we talked about an incremental $48 million of technology spend. As you can see, we were to really layer in that $48 million, can we still drop the efficiency ratio across the entire organization. Every single dollar we spend here has to be justified, has to make sure that there is an appropriate return on that, we're not doing it. We're not just spending money on technology for what we think is going to be revenue enhancements, but what we think will be franchise building opportunities, and they're going to be in line and appropriate with the appropriate revenue growth in earnings per share growth that we have. It's not going to outpace it.

[Matthew Breese:]

Okay.

[Travis Lan:]

This is Travis, Matt. Just from a modeling perspective, right, so we were $160 million of adjusted expenses this quarter, but that included $2 million of what I would call, higher or abnormally high kind of cash incentive accruals. So when you take that out, you kind of add some – a little bit of the expense growth that we're talking about. It gets you to that $160 million, and that's kind of what we're contemplating at this point, which is why I think Mike said that $160 million run rate was a good one.

[Matthew Breese:]

Okay. Next question for me is just could you talk a little bit about the loan portfolio exposure to floating rates, how much is there, and then how much is subject or below floors where if we do get a Fed hike we're not going to see the benefit?

[Michael Hagedorn:]

Yes. So this is Mike. I'll take a stab at it and I'm sure Tom will join on the end. Within the entire loan book, roughly 60% of our loans, $18 billion are addressable and of that $18 billion, $12 billion or so are tied to LIBOR or prime and they repriced on a regular basis. So your point is I think what you're getting at is do we have the ability to have repricing take place and at 60%. I think we do. The bias is toward that, but it's a balanced portfolio.

[Matthew Breese:]

Okay. I did want to talk a little bit about Valley Direct, the digital bank. Can you give us a sense for the use case here, the capabilities? And the reason I ask is, obviously, the world is increasingly using mobile devices and all things digital, but during the up interest rate cycle might got was that the digital bank offerings from regional bank peers tend to be strictly deposit gathering and came with higher deposit betas. So perhaps you could give us just a quick pitch on Valley Direct aim and how will be different and ultimately value enhancing?

[Ira Robbins:]

Yes. I think we just reported on this in the first quarter. Valley Direct is really opportunity to revamp our online account opening process. We don't need it today for deposit gathering, we're not really using it for that benefit. We're using it primarily to improve the process, create efficiencies, rollout this account opening process online in each of our branches, developing those efficiencies there. We have seen traffic slow in the branches, we have seen our online and mobile utilization increase 15% and 25% respectively from last year, and we'll continue to use that Valley Direct as an efficiency for onboarding new accounts into our system.

[Matthew Breese:]

Okay.

[Thomas Iadanza:]

But really just adding up on that point, it is not as you're describing, something we're just looking at from a deposit perspective. It is an opportunity from a platform perspective to be how we think about opening accounts across a multi-spectrum of different structures, whether it'd be on the deposit side under the loan side. We have the ability to really build a lot of this in-house, which was important to us. That gives us the flexibility to make sure that the customer experience in some of that we own and that would have third party owns, and I think that's part of the focus as we move forward. We need to own our customer experiences, we need to own our employee experiences and a lot of that is driving what the technology initiatives are across the organization. But if you were to go on to Valley Direct today, you would find an experience, I think, many would really enjoy, three minutes plus or minus to open up an account and onboarded as well here, which is something that we think is leading, and will hopefully drive a multitude of efficiencies across the entire organization.

[Matthew Breese:]

Okay. Last one from me is on the allowance. You mentioned in the release that there’s increases in the allowance across most of your loan categories, including commercial real estate of 5 basis points due to higher quantitative reserves. Could you just flush it out a little bit more what happened there, and are you preparing for any sort of increase or change in the level of charge-offs?

[Michael Hagedorn:]

So within the model and the most sensitive attribute would be the loss rates and those did not materially change. So the biggest change from a dollar perspective was the fact that we had significant loan growth. When you combine that with an improving economic scenario that I talked about in my prepared remarks from Moody's, you get a slightly lower required allowance and that's why you see the minor 3 basis point ticked down in our allowance coverage ratios.

[Matthew Breese:]

Great. That’s all I had. Thank you for taking my questions.

[Michael Hagedorn:]

Thank you.

[Ira Robbins:]

Thanks, Matt.

[Operator:]

I'm showing no further questions. I would now like to turn the call back over to Ira Robbins for any closing remarks.

[Ira Robbins:]

Thank you very much, and we look forward to speaking to you next quarter.

[Operator:]

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.