Voya Financial, Inc.
Q4 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

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  • Operator:
    Good morning. And welcome to the Voya Financial Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Michael Katz, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Mr. Katz Please go ahead.
  • Michael Katz:
    Thank you. And good morning. Welcome to Voya Financial’s fourth quarter and full year 2020 earnings conference all. We appreciate all of you who have joined us for this call. As a reminder, materials for today's call are available on our website at investors.voya.com or via the webcast. Turning to Slide 2. Some of the comments made during this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of Federal securities laws. This includes potential impacts related to COVID-19. I refer you to this slide for more information. We will also be referring today to certain non-GAAP financial measures. GAAP reconciliations are available in our press release and financial supplement found on our website, investors.voya.com. Joining me on the call are
  • Rod Martin:
    Good morning. Let's begin on Slide 4 with some key themes. Despite the many challenges of 2020, our Q4 and full year results reflect strong financial performance and the power of our unique culture. We leverage the strength of our brand and our long-standing distribution relationships to attract and retain clients. We provided resources, free credits in the new workplace programs to help our customers address the impacts of COVID-19 on their health and wealth needs. And we had candid conversations inside and outside our company about the racial inequity in our country, and how Voya can do even better to address these issues. All of this would not have been possible without our people. Despite every challenge, they focused on the needs of our clients with extraordinary professionalism, and care. Voya stands apart in our industry because of our people, our unique portfolio of workplace and institutional businesses, and our commitment to our customers. This has enabled us to deliver strong bottom-line results, top line growth and capital returns that reflect the benefits of our diverse business mix of high free cash flow businesses. Turning to earnings performance, fourth quarter normalized EPS was $1.44, growing 21% year-over-year. Our full year normalized EPS was $4.81, representing a 14% increase compared with 2019.
  • Michael Katz:
    Thank you, Rod. Despite a very challenging environment in 2020, we delivered strong top and bottom-line growth, returned significant cash to shareholders, closed the Life transaction, and we entered this year with robust pipelines, setting ourselves up for a terrific 2021. I'm very proud of all that our team accomplished and look forward to continued success in 2021 and beyond. Turning to Slide 7, we delivered normalized after tax adjusted operating earnings of $1.44 per share in the fourth quarter of 2020. This excludes three items. First, $0.49 of prepayment and alternative income above our long-term expectations. Third quarter equity markets supported alternative results and helped drive full year performance back above our 9% long-term expectation. Second, $0.18 of favorable DAC/VOBA and other intangibles unlocking. And third, $0.21 of stranded costs associated with Individual Life business and other closed blocks. With the closing of the Life Transaction stranded costs net of as ASA TSA revenues will be included in normalized adjusted operating earnings going forward. On a full year basis normalized after tax adjusted operating earnings grew 14% to $4.81 in 2020, largely reflecting growth in investment management and employee benefit earnings and lower average share count. On a reported basis, adjusted operating earnings were $1.90 per share for the quarter, and $3.22 for the full year. GAAP net income was $341 million for the fourth quarter of 2020. This includes results from our Individual Life business for a final quarter. In fourth quarter, Individual Life COVID-related losses were in line with our expectations, which drove unfavorable mortality.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our first question today is coming from Ryan Krueger with KBW. Your line is now live.
  • Ryan Krueger:
    Hi, good morning. I had a question on M&A. I know this is the potential to do both on M&A is not exactly a new topic. But it did seem a little bit more prominent in your language on it this quarter. So wanted to understand if it's more of a priority now, or if it's just something that you would consider doing, if there were opportunistic properties that emerge?
  • Rod Martin:
    Ryan, good morning, it's Rod. Mike and I and the team will toggle as usual. Ryan, our philosophy on capital management remains the same. We're going to be disciplined on shareholder value that very much includes M&A. We're excited about what Mike and I just talked about in terms of deploying $1 billion of share buybacks this year. As Mike has shared, we will have a $1.8 billion in excess capital. And we are looking to both invest in our business and working at inorganic opportunities to focus on the growth in our business. And this is really to improve outcomes and the experience for our customers. So we will consider this. We are looking at ways that we can enhance the experience for our customers. And we aren't prepared to speculate on size or preference other than to say it's highly reinforcing of our workplace and institutional focus.
  • Ryan Krueger:
    Understood. Thanks. And then just – could you, Chris, probably for Christine, could you provide a little bit more color on the strong pipeline in Investment Management and the expectations there as we go through the year?
  • Rod Martin:
    Christine?
  • Christine Hurtsellers:
    Sure, Ryan. So Ryan as you think about it, when you look at our guidance, we're forecasting flattish flows in the first quarter, other few known redemptions, but also uncertain timing in terms of unfunded wins. So how do we see the pipeline? Well, number one, we're starting the year with the largest level of unfunded one, but unfunded wins that we've had at $4.7 billion, and that doesn't include the pipeline what we call – when we're either in a finals or a semi-finals. And the exciting thing about the unfunded wins Ryan, is that we have over 10 strategies represented in nearly 40 different clients. So think of it as being diverse and robust. So when you look at our guidance, we're guiding to 2% to 4% organic growth, we're going to continue to leverage our exceptionally strong investment performance. The products that we have both in public and private asset classes, as well as we've got a great distribution team. So overall, very confident that we're going to hit that range. And so again, recognizing we've had just think about negative outflows as far as life happens episodic, because when you look at our history, we've delivered five years of positive cash flows, five straight years. And so I'm confident we're going to be delivering six.
  • Ryan Krueger:
    Thank you.
  • Rod Martin:
    Thank you, Ryan.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question today coming from Suneet Kamath from Citi. Your line is now live.
  • Suneet Kamath:
    Thanks. Good morning. I wanted to start with retirement if I could. Maybe a similar question to Ryan's on Investment Management. Charlie, can you give us a sense of maybe what the pipeline looks like there in terms of transfer deposits and then maybe how today compares to prior years?
  • Rod Martin:
    Charlie?
  • Charlie Nelson:
    Sure. Thank you. Yes, transfer deposits and the activities and our total deposits are looking very, very strong. We saw an improvement in, increase I should say, in RFPs in the fourth quarter. And even in January, we saw an increase in RFPs year-over-year, and that's leading to higher notifications. We continue to see improve notification similar to what Christine was just referring to. These are notifications where we are awarded the plan just waits to be funded. So from a transfer deposit and it's not just in our corporate markets where we've had 29 quarters of full service net, positive net flows, but it's also coming in our tax exempt business in the first quarter and then early part of 2021. So that's kind of underpinning a fair bit of the confidence in our net flows and outlook for 2021.
  • Suneet Kamath:
    Got it. And then I guess – if I could shift over to capital, I guess Rod, if we sit here and think about the $1.8 billion going to $2.1 billion, once you close the independent financial planner sale. Yes, that's a pretty sizable amount of excess capital. And I know if I think back to the years around the time of the IPO, you guys used to commit to deploying a 100% of the excess capital sort of over the subsequent 12 months. And I know the world different today with COVID, but if we assume that there's no major negative shocks or new surprises, is that still a reasonable expectation for investors that you would deploy kind of the full $2.1 billion over the next 12 months?
  • Rod Martin:
    Suneet, what we just communicated was, for 2021, we are committing $1 billion of the excess capital in the form of share buyback principally ratably. You've seen us generally lean in and out depending on market conditions, but we're highly confident in communicating that which I do realize leaves a balance and that balance will be used in the same judgment and experience that we've used in creating the $6.7 billion of capital that we've returned to date. And what do I mean by that? We're going to continue to look for ways to invest in our business organically. We will look for opportunities inorganically that makes sense in furthering and strengthening the solutions around workplace and on health and wealth. And of course we're going to continue to have an eye toward returning capital in a very constructive way to shareholders. So we tried to frame it around that. We – it gives us an enormous amount of flexibility. We're in an enviable position in my view to play offense as we move into 2021, you've heard from Charlie and Christine of this morning. The momentum that we have as we finished 2020 and go into 2021. We're highly encouraged about and we are going to let the year play out. I will remind, so you need all of us that we still are facing COVID. And we're encouraged about the vaccines. We're encouraged – there's a light at the end of this period of time, but this will be with us certainly for the first half of this year, which is why we're going to be prudent as we approach them.
  • Mike Smith:
    Suneet, this is Mike. Maybe if I could just add, and I think I fully agree with everything Rod just said. I just to add a little color around the financial planning channel proceeds. We just closed the transaction, or just sign the transaction, excuse me, a couple of days ago. And so I think in terms of the use of those proceeds, the same philosophy will apply. There's nothing different there. But I'd probably stop short of saying we would put those necessarily to work by the end of the year. We may not close it until sometime in the third quarter. So just a little caution on that, but the discipline and the focus and the commitment to delivering shareholder value remains the commitment to focusing on growth creation through investments in our business is just as strong as it's been.
  • Suneet Kamath:
    Okay. Thanks.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Jimmy Bhullar from JPMorgan. Your line is now live.
  • Jimmy Bhullar:
    Hi, good morning. So maybe first, just following up on the discussion so far. If you could maybe Rod and/or Mike talk about where do you feel that you would like to add through organic and inorganic investments in your business and what sort of the market environment is in competition is for deals in those areas?
  • Rod Martin:
    Jimmy, good morning, I'll start. And obviously we'll toggle back and forth. We've talked about looking for opportunities to improve the outcome and experience for our participants in our companies built again around health and wealth. So think about that as an example in terms of our participant engagement and the data and the technology that will support those other growth initiatives. So improving that experience and outcome would be an example. We talked about historically Jimmy, the consideration of adding a block of business to our retirement if it met our financial targets. We talked about expanding our distribution reach with our existing strategies within our asset management business internationally that has been growing. We've got great momentum in the insurance channel with Christine's team over the last five years, that would be an area of that we continue to want to make sure we're making the proper investments in. And certainly we've had terrific momentum with particularly against the COVID backdrop with our Employee Benefit – group benefit business. And that would be another area that would make sense to add capabilities as we perceive them as we move forward. Mike?
  • Mike Smith:
    I'd just add, again, the focus Jimmy will be on shareholder value and delivering that and that can come in many forms, but accretion dilution remains an important consideration. Growth remains an important consideration, shifting our business mix to be more fee oriented and less risk oriented with the rerating potential that creates all of those are important factors as we think about the opportunities that could be ahead for us.
  • Jimmy Bhullar:
    Okay. And then just on the outflows in the Retirement business in the fourth quarter, was it just a matter of timing of case wins and losses, because for the year you had a pretty strong year overall, but what drove the outflows in 4Q and especially in the record keeping business and any comments that on trends that you're seeing in terms of employee deferrals and employer matching contributions that sort of at least stability or a little bit of a recovery that we've seen in the economy?
  • Rod Martin:
    Sure Jimmy. Charlie?
  • Charlie Nelson:
    Okay. Jimmy, you had a couple of things in there. So I'm going to get them try to tick away at them if I miss one circle back on me. Specific to your question around some outflows, in the fourth quarter, we did have a small number of plans of larger plans that did not renew in particular in 2020, I should say, in our tax exempt business. And I'm very proud of our team. I think we've been maintaining good pricing discipline and not renewing plans generally with higher guaranteed rates. I think it's the right thing to do, but they've also been able to have some very strong growth in our tax exempt business. I don't think you see some of the things that we see on the net flows in our tax exempt business, because it's actually better than what you might see there because our rollovers out of our tax exempt business actually show up in our retail assets. So there's – we've been able to retain a fair number of assets there. So we've got some good growth there. And over the last five years, our CAGR in growth of assets and tax exempt has been 20% a year for the last five years. And then Mike said, we moved to that number one position in the government market. And so that's kind of a commentary both on record keeping as well as our full service businesses as I look at both of those and adding a 0.5 million participants, it was a really a significant net-net 0.5 million participants, significant achievement with the total net flows between recordkeeping and full service. I think we're about 26 billion for full year 2020. And so that creates some tremendous momentum. And in particular, I think when you look at where we gained that share we gained that share the largest portion of it from top five DC competitors. So we're winning, not just from kind of the mid and smaller, but we took a meaningful share from top five DC providers. So that kind of gives us some confidence there. In terms of your question on recurring deposits, employer contributions is, I think I had mentioned. In the fourth quarter, we actually saw an improvement in employer contributions year-over-year in recurring deposits. And that was pretty measurable and that kind of gives us some confidence going into 2021, I should say 2021, that actually, we're going to hope that that continues that employer contributions continue, as Rod says, you're still some uncertainty around COVID. But we're starting to see a bit of a rebound there that employer contributions went pretty significantly positive in a higher growth rate than what we saw in the second and third quarters. I think that was all of your questions around record keeping, full service and deposits. Did I miss any?
  • Jimmy Bhullar:
    No, you did well. Thank you.
  • Charlie Nelson:
    Okay. Thank you.
  • Operator:
    Our next question today is coming from Erik Bass from Autonomous Research. Your line is now live.
  • Erik Bass:
    Hi, thank you. Can you provide some more detail on the drivers of the 8% to 12% expected normalized growth for retirement earnings in 2021? And also help us think about the revenue and expense implications from the sale of the ISP business. Mike, Charlie, do you want to start. Mike and then Charlie?
  • Charlie Nelson:
    Okay. Do you want to start Mike? And then I'll go.
  • Mike Smith:
    Charlie, why don't you go ahead?
  • Charlie Nelson:
    Okay. Sure. The drivers for us, obviously, it's been largely driven by our growth. I think you've seen the growth that we've talked both in our record keeping business. There is, I think as I mentioned, we have some spread revenue pressure that's a challenge. When we – when I look on the expense side of things, where we did come in a bit above range last year, and we think we'll have a bit of a modest increase next year. The driver I would say is really just some investments we're doing in our IT infrastructure, data, digital automation which we believe are really going to give us some longer-term benefits. But we've also just kind of the growth and what we're expecting and continue to expect an onboarding plans both last year and this year. So – but even with that, that growth in some of the higher expenses, I would note that we drove our unit costs down kind of a measure of some leverage in our business by 6% in 2020. And we expect to have continued improvement in our unit cost in retirement in 2021 as a driver of kind of our focus in our earnings as we go forward. So hoping for, and continued growth on the recurring deposits, strong flows, net flows, recurring, or excuse me, in tax exempt or corporate, as well as record keeping are going to be the main drivers with a little bit of head wind coming on the spread revenue.
  • Mike Smith:
    And Erik, the only thing I'd add is in addition to the – just really good underlying momentum in the growth of the business. There were a couple of one timers in last year that were adverse that we wouldn't expect to occur. So that's a little bit of a growth as well. So they're not part of the normalization.
  • Erik Bass:
    Got you. And on the IFP sale, is I think that's reported within retirement. Was that business generating anything material from earnings at this point and I assume that that's where some of the spread compression was coming from. So it’s kind of the sale reduce that going forward to the last one on that is I think you're retaining $20 million – or $20 billion of assets. Can you talk about what those are?
  • Rod Martin:
    Well, let me start on the impacts from the financial planning transaction. So the earnings are a bit volatile, but you should think of it in terms of $20 million to $25 million is the earnings impact there. So and your rights – pre-tax, excuse me, yes, $20 to $25 million pre-tax. The impact of the sweep account was particularly pronounced in 2020. I think that will – certainly that low amount of volatility will abate it didn't come through in spread revenue though. It came through in fee. So it came in a different line item. But – and then in terms of the $20 billion, I'm not sure what you're referring to. Maybe I just maybe step back right on the impact…
  • Erik Bass:
    $20 billion is leftover in our field advisors, in our investor channel.
  • Rod Martin:
    Okay. So just to be clear, there's no impact assets under administration – or under management, and there's no impact assets under management here. We're already on the Cetera platform as the financial planners move over to Cetera. We'll continue to have those relationships with them. And in fact, we wind up in a stronger position going forward with Cetera. So the economics of that, as it relates to the management by the advisors go to Cetera, but the rest of it is unaffected.
  • Erik Bass:
    Got it. Thank you. That's helpful.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. The question is coming from Humphrey Lee from Dowling & Partners. Your line is now alive.
  • Humphrey Lee:
    Good morning, and thank you for taking my questions. Regarding to the especially for the unfunded mandate, any color that you can share in terms of the strategies and also – the type of strategies and also kind of how should we think about that the fees for those inflows?
  • Rod Martin:
    Christine?
  • Christine Hurtsellers:
    Sure, Humphrey. A couple of things. So let's just start with a little more detail on the pipeline. And then I can address how to think about fees as the year evolves. So again, when you think about the pipeline, it is 10 different strategies, so quite a bit of diversity. So we continue to see strong client interest in private credit – private asset classes generally, as well as commercial real estate. So those are attractive just really, when you think about the spread and the returns in this low return world, those are very attractive to long run investors. And then pivoting to the public side, we've seen quite a bit of interest in what our global fixed income mandates if you will and global unconstrained. So across the board, we're seeing quite a bit of diversity and flows. We also have a very strong securitized group, so that is getting interest as well. And certainly overall, our mortgage investment fund, we'll be closing – it was closed and we reopened it. So expect maybe some modest inflows in that. So overall, lots of diversity to think about it. We see continued strength across those product types, but now pivoting to your flow, or excuse me your revenue and how to think about the evolution of what sort of fees we're earning on the business, 2021 will be a little bit confusing at the beginning of the year, simply because when you think about Resolution Life and the close of the Life sale. Those assets are currently the basis points that we earn on those assets, when we manage them for Voya Capital are not included in that external client AUM basis points. So, what you are going to see is a natural headwind or drag down at the basis points under management. But when you look forward to the rest of the year, when you think about some of the private asset classes and things you should see, we're expecting to see pretty much a steady basis point year in terms of what we're earning on assets under management. And again, as you know, just given the organic growth, we're expecting to grow our earnings in the range, excluding the performance fees that were very strong in the range of 8% to 12%. We’re going to achieve that through the strong performance, leveraging that. Also think on the fixed income side, we have investment grade credit as an example, top decile performing strategies, it's getting a lot of interest. Those tend to have lower fees. But again, they are highly scalable. So we think about, growing the revenue overall, both through certainly the fees are important, but also when you think about the scalability and what can adapt to the bottom line, those are going to be key again to hitting that earnings target that we've put forward in our guidance.
  • Humphrey Lee:
    That's helpful. Shifting gears, I want to touch back on retirement and earnings a little bit. So you talked about the 8% to 12% growth for 2021. But if we take that kind of earnings, based on the normalized earnings in 2020, and then comparing to the Q4 2020 normalized number, it seems like the quarterly run rate for 2021 will be 5% lower than the Q4 2020 normalized number. And I believe Charlie and Mike talked about some of the headwinds that is running in the numbers. But at the same time, 2020 is supposed to have some negative impact from the one-offs, whereas the COVID-related withdrawal of waivers, and legal accrual. I guess, just in terms of – how to think about some of the headwinds going into 2021?
  • Rod Martin:
    Mike or Charlie, do you want to take that?
  • Charlie Nelson:
    Maybe I'll start. And, Mike, if you want to chime in as well. In terms of headwinds going into 2021, certainly the spread-based revenues are going to be pressured and continued to be pressured. I think that is something that we're dealing with. Offsetting that, is some of our – obviously is our strong growth that we had last year and the growth that we see coming in into 2021, both in record keeping, and both in our Full Service, Corporate and Tax-Exempt Markets. So, I think, those are some things that are helping us tremendously as well. And then on the expense side of the equation, yes, I think, I had mentioned just a little earlier that we do expect to be modestly above and expenses in 2021. But we're also expecting to see continued improvement in our unit cost. And we're seeing some benefits, and expecting benefits from some of the investments we have been making around data, digital, automation and automating. And I'll give you an example that we have going live in the first quarter of this year is just as we continue to automate various dimensions and processes of our onboarding and our Full Service plan. So our Full Service corporate plans, we've got some tools that we will be deploying internally to help automate part of that implementation process. And those things, kind of all start coming together to help us drive that unit cost down over time. But as we as we look at it, it's really, I think, the drivers are going to be kind of where rates are certainly our growth and our continued growth, which we feel good about on the line of sight that we have, as well as just our continued strong retention. I don't anticipate as high of COVID hardships and loans as what we had in 2020, which really kind of were pretty high in the second, third, and a little bit in the fourth quarter. But they seem to be moderating a bit but they'll still probably be higher than maybe our average run rate. So, all in all, I think, it does give us the confidence all these things that it gets back to our guide of 8% to 12%
  • Humphrey Lee:
    Got it. Thank you.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question today is coming from Andrew Kligerman from Credit Suisse. Your line is now live.
  • Andrew Kligerman:
    Hey, good morning. I think I want to take one more crack at the M&A question. Rod, you mentioned earlier, investments in data and technology, blocks of business for retirement expanding strategies for distribution and investment management, all of that sounds similar to, what another one of our covered companies calls like a buy to build strategy where they are – I would call it writing checks of $50 million to $200 million to kind of help build their business but not do anything outsized. Am I reading that properly? Does that sort of seem more like the Voya bias?
  • Rod Martin:
    Andrew, good question. I’d overlay that, again, with the discipline that we've demonstrated over the entire period, we've been a public company, on driving shareholder value. So, Mike and I've been very clear on the threshold for that. I think we've worked really hard, the team has executed in my view beautifully, to put the company in the position we're in to have the privilege of the excess capital. We invested a $1 billion in share buybacks this year. And we're going to use that same discipline. So, I am going to fall short Android saying, this a size by which we wouldn't do something other than we're going to be disciplined about that. We are focused on growth. And we've done a number of rather small, using your word bolt-on pieces to date. But we will continue to look at those opportunities that ultimately will drive shareholder value. And Mike feel free to add.
  • Mike Smith:
    I think you covered it really well Rod. I don't have anything to add to that.
  • Andrew Kligerman:
    Okay, so thanks for that one. And then just shifting over to employee benefits. You've got a pretty nice annualized in force premium growth projection of 7% to 10%. And I think Charlie was talking about some competitive signs in the employer workspace kind of trending in retirement. So, we're still in kind of a very – we're still in a tough economy. So how in employee benefits, are you able to project out 7% to 10% in-force premium growth? Maybe a little color around that would be helpful.
  • Rod Martin:
    Absolutely. Rob, do you want to you want to lead on this?
  • Rob Grubka:
    Yes, sure. Thank you, Rod. And, Andrew, thanks for the question. Yes, what we’ve, I think, demonstrated over the last several years, our market focus middle and larger employers certainly through the latest environment has helped us. Our product mix is tighter in a number of ways relative to the competition. So, we're focusing on Stop Loss, the Voluntary benefit business and the Life business, with Voluntary had exceptional growth on our book of business, this year grew 20 plus percent, even in the COVID environment. Sort of the sequence of sales, I think, you've got a pretty good handle on that you and others have one-one obviously is important to us. And we've got a pretty good view into that. We feel good about where we are, in that process of those cases coming on Board. Both from the volume of what we're seeing, but also the price at which we're seeing it. And so we'll continue to be disciplined on it, 7% to 10%, certainly in the in the marketplace is good. But I think that focus from a market perspective, the products that we play in the COVID environment, certainly is impacting things. So we may see some different mix of business from product perspective, or the case sizes could be a bit different. But the long-term trend for the business and the focus on workplace benefits is rather served across health and wealth move. There's a lot going from just a pure momentum perspective, I think, the solution set the distribution, depth and breadth that we have across the workplace and institutions is really firing well. We'll continue to fight hard and just get a tighter grip on maintaining that. But I think those are sort of the high-level currents of why we've got confidence and what we're seeing as we look ahead. Having said that, there's always surprises as we experienced last year. And we'll just adapt and innovate. And the foundational investments that are going on across Voya, I think, just have kept us nimble and agile in capturing the growth that we've seen of late.
  • Rod Martin:
    Thank you much.
  • Andrew Kligerman:
    Thank you.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question is coming from John Barnidge, from PiperSandler. Your line is now live.
  • John Barnidge:
    Yes, you've done a number of divestitures over the last number of years. And then you did the financial planning channel sale this week. Can you talk about any similar, smaller businesses, that maybe we on the outside might not be thinking that could potentially be divested?
  • Rod Martin:
    What we have done is you just outlined, we're really executing, to enable the company to be the capital-light, high return, high free cash flow businesses. We've largely exited as you've commented and we've discussed with the broader audience, our retail businesses and capital-intensive businesses, and in businesses with tail liabilities, particularly that could be impacted in the lower-for-longer interest rate environment. So, I feel very good about where we are. And the execution, not just the ideation of it, the execution of actually implementing those. The outcome of which is enabling us to be on the high end of our 85% to 95% free cash flow conversion range, and absolutely capital-light. In terms of, are there others? I think that pretty well covers the waterfront for now. But Mike, feel free to add if I’ve missed something?
  • Mike Smith:
    No, you haven't missed anything. I think the focus is pretty clear now for us on workplace institutional. I think all the significant pieces we have aligned with that. So it really is more of a focus on growth from here. Could there be on the margins, little things to do? Maybe, but broadly speaking, I think, we're comfortable with what we have.
  • John Barnidge:
    That's very helpful. And maybe my follow-up, there have been a number of asset managers out there creating products designed to get the investment community, broad base or targeted exposure to Bitcoin and other crypto currencies. Are you working on a similar product for the Institutional asset management segment that you can speak to?
  • Rod Martin:
    Christine, do you want to speak to that?
  • Christine Hurtsellers:
    Certainly, Rod. A quick answer no. We're – no but no, we're not. And certainly, we watch cryptocurrencies, what is the role in the general economy, et cetera, they still tend to be somewhat opaque at times what's driving some of the valuations. Our focus is on specialty products, expanding our credit franchise, continuing to evolve our active equity strategies with our acquisition of our Machine Learning team, to incorporate to do more concentrated strategies as well as really incorporate ESG into what we do. And then to strategically add to our distribution teams, we've gone into Europe. I think we have Asian clients, we think there are some good opportunities to step into Asia a bit at the end of the year So again, when you think about our product development, our focus on behalf of our clients, we're going to stick true to our brand proposition really, which is exceptional client service, specialty products and continuing to expand our distribution reach.
  • John Barnidge:
    Thank you very much for the answer.
  • Rod Martin:
    Thank you.
  • Operator:
    Thank you. Our next question is coming from Jeremy Campbell from Barclays. Your line is now live.
  • Jeremy Campbell:
    Hey, thanks. And Christine, maybe just one more for you. And thanks for all the great color today, as we kind of unpack some of his strengths in some areas that are kind of underlying the strong pipeline. So maybe we want to kind of flip that one a little bit. Are there any of the equity or other strategies that are showing improving flow momentum either from fewer outflows or a pivot from outflows inflows, that will either yield less of a headwind or maybe a positive tailwind to the organization?
  • Christine Hurtsellers:
    Yes, certainly. In terms of the active equity performance self-inflows, we had some challenges in performance in 2020, namely in some of our smaller growth strategies, so think small cap, as an example. But we have very strong performance in mid cap and value handily outperforming our benchmarks and competitive to peers. And so, overall, with active equity, we've seen into the more traditional asset classes some inflows into large cap growth. And so, think of that as a marquee franchise. And we do expect the outflow headwinds to abate as we look into 2021. And so, as we think about equity, we've been spending a lot of time really working on ESG, as well as analytics, and acquiring our, what we now call, was G Squared, we call it our EMI team, our machine learning team. Very strong performance in those strategies. Concentrated quantitative, and so we're starting to see pipeline of interest there. So overall, I think, we're going to have a better year in terms of overall flows and active equity, as well as, again, we have such strong performance in fixed income as well. And I just want to note very quickly, and realize we're up against time, but when you see our performance versus benchmarks in those supplements, those are publicly traded asset classes. We're not including Pomona, we're not including the mortgage investment hedge fund. You saw the strong performance fees we delivered in the fourth quarter. So overall, the strength of what we do and our value proposition expands beyond the traditional 90% outperforming for three years fixed income as an example that you see on the slide.
  • Michael Katz:
    Thank you. In the interest of time, our final question today is coming from Tom Gallagher from Evercore. Your line is now live.
  • Tom Gallagher:
    Good morning. Just a few quick ones from me. Rob, do you plan on exercising the option to extend your employment contract into 2022?
  • Rob Grubka:
    Tom, thanks for the question. We are intending to communicate, as we’ve again discussed from time to time, not just with you but more broadly, our plans by the end of the first quarter. I am very excited and encouraged about the growth and development of the team. And we will – as we've communicated previously, our Board is looking at this and in a very comprehensive way, I couldn't be more pleased with the thoroughness of which we and they are approaching. And by the end of the first quarter, we will be communicating the plans in a manner that, I think, will be thoughtful and very orderly. So stay tuned. But we will be communicating that shortly.
  • Tom Gallagher:
    Okay. Thanks, Rob. Mike a question on the excess capital and the leverage. You had mentioned you're planning on using $600 million to $800 million to pay down debt. I think previously, you had said it's probably going to be close to the low end of the range. Is that still the expectation? And just to confirm, we should be taking the $600 million to $800 million out of the $1.8 billion of excess capital, because you've not yet earmarked that. I just want to confirm that.
  • Mike Smith:
    So on the second part, yes, that is a use of excess capital. So just to be clear. Now as to the range, the $600 million to $800 million was a pro forma target, right. So it was to get us back to the leverage levels that we were at the time of the announcement. Ultimately how much we buy will depend on how the year unfolds. But we'll be managing the leverage ratio, the new leverage ratio to likely something a little bit under 30% to give us a little room, but that'll be how it ultimately plays out. We think it will be in the range of $600 million to $800 million. If things go well, it'll be closer to the lower end of that. If we have – if the world throws us a curveball on asset impairments or something like that, then it may not be. But broadly speaking, that's my expectation, it will be toward the lower end.
  • Michael Katz:
    Thank you. We've reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the floor back over to management for any further or closing comments.
  • Rod Martin:
    Thank you. Our success throughout 2020 reflects the resilience and agility of our people and our commitment to helping our clients navigate difficult times. As we look ahead, we recognize the challenges related to COVID-19 will continue to impact both the U.S. and the broader economy. That said, we remain optimistic about our ability to build on our track record and to continue to welcome new clients to Voya as we make further investments in our workplace capabilities and expertise. We see as we've discussed continued client interest in supporting their employees’ needs as they navigate the many health and wealth challenges they are facing. We believe that Voya continue to stand apart for our solutions and expertise in solving those needs. We look forward to updating you on our progress as we pursue our vision to be America's retirement company. Thank you, and good day.
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