Cactus, Inc.
Q1 2021 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Cactus Q1 2021 Earnings Call. . Now I would like to welcome Mr. John Fitzgerald, Director of Corporate Development and IR. Sir, please go ahead.
- John Fitzgerald:
- Thank you, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate your participation in today's call. The speakers on today's call will be Scott Bender, our Chief Executive Officer; and Steve Tadlock, our Chief Financial Officer. Also joining us today are
- Scott Bender:
- Thanks, John, and good morning to everyone. I apologize in advance, I'm fighting a cold and apparently losing. Cactus demonstrated its ability to achieve meaningful sequential growth during the first quarter despite the weather-related challenges that impacted us in February. Our product market share remained robust at nearly 43% during the quarter. We believe we're well positioned to capitalize on a U.S. market recovery that is now underway. In summary, first quarter revenues increased 24% sequentially with each revenue category reporting growth of more than 20%. Adjusted EBITDA was up 15% sequentially and adjusted EBITDA margins were 27%. Our cash balance rose to nearly $292 million and we paid a quarterly dividend of $0.09 per share. I'll now turn the call over to Steve Tadlock, our CFO, who will review our financial results. Following his remarks, I'll provide some thoughts on our outlook for the near term before opening the lines up for Q&A. So Steve?
- Stephen Tadlock:
- Thanks, Scott. In Q1, total revenues of $84 million were 24% higher than the prior quarter. Product revenues of $52 million were up 21% sequentially, driven by an increase in rigs followed. Product gross margins were 30% of revenues, down approximately 110 basis points on a sequential basis due primarily to increased costs associated with tariffs, materials, freight and wages. Rental revenues were above $12 million for the quarter, up approximately 45% from the fourth quarter of 2020. Rental gross margins increased more than 1,200 basis points sequentially due to higher revenue on a relatively fixed depreciable base.
- Scott Bender:
- Thanks, Steve. We noted on our last call, a strong management conviction, that revenue improvements were forthcoming. This proved accurate as we achieved over 20% growth during the first quarter in all revenue categories. We continue to generate positive momentum both from existing customer activity increases and by adding new customers. In recent quarters, we've been highly successful in winning product business with private operators. While large publicly traded E&Ps continue to represent the majority of our customers, private operators now represent over 1/3 of our rigs followed, up from sub-20% during the middle of last year. Over the same period, our market share with the privates increased from approximately 15% to nearly 25% today. We currently expect Cactus' rigs followed to increase by over 10% during the second quarter of 2021. Given the improving market dynamics, continued customer efficiency gains and normal lag times from Q1's rig gains, we expect Q2 product revenues to increase by over 25% on a sequential basis. Product EBITDA margins are expected to improve by approximately 200 basis points during the second quarter, highlighting confidence in our ability to offset some of the headwinds related to rising steel prices and ocean freight costs.
- Operator:
- . Your first question is from the line of Chase Mulvehill of Bank of America.
- Chase Mulvehill:
- So if we can talk about pricing, obviously commentary around pricing has been pretty positive, at least on the product side. I mean, obviously, rental is not so much. But when we think about pricing and how much you've been able to push price? I know you're not going to give me that number on how much you've been able to push price. But if we can think about, so far, the pricing that you've been able to get on the product side, how much of that will you see in 2Q? And the guide that I think you said margins will be up 200 bps. So how much of that is flowing through in 2Q versus kind of continue flowing through in the back half? And then the pricing that you're seeing, is it more wellheads? Or is it also trees?
- Scott Bender:
- Yes. The pricing is wellheads and trees. I'm going to just guess that about half in the second quarter, about half of the impact, and the full impact in the third quarter.
- Chase Mulvehill:
- Okay. All right. That's helpful. And I would assume that if the market continues to improve, then you'd be able to continue to push price. That's the intent, right?
- Scott Bender:
- That's the expectation, yes, Chase.
- Chase Mulvehill:
- Yes. Okay. One more, and if we think about the market share gains that you've had, I guess, maybe could you talk about pad sizes? And if you see pad sizes growing, have you seen that kind of happen over the past few quarters? And then maybe if you talk about - kind of isolate that conversation around privates. Because obviously, kind of what we've always heard is that the privates do smaller pads. Are you starting to see them do bigger pads, which actually increases the value of your wellhead business? So just kind of speak to that a little bit.
- Scott Bender:
- Yes. I think in general, it's fair to say that we're seeing pad sizes decrease. I don't know that I can really address whether or not privates have begun to increase pad sizes. Steven, have you seen any indication of that?
- Steven Bender:
- No, I don't - I mean, nothing tangible.
- Scott Bender:
- But in general, pad sizes have decreased this year.
- Chase Mulvehill:
- Okay. So what would you attribute to market share gains on the private side? Is there just a bigger focus for Cactus about - on the privates?
- Scott Bender:
- It's like - Chase, it's just really the impact of lots of our customers, lots of our larger customers reducing personnel and those personnel who are used to using Cactus finding their way over into management positions at the privates. So it's just an expansion of really the relationships that we fostered over the last 10 years and these people now taking management positions with privates.
- Operator:
- Your next question is from the line of Scott Gruber from Citigroup.
- Scott Gruber:
- So there's a bit of debate this earnings season as to the vigor with which privates add rigs from here. Some suggest that trend will lose steam. Others are saying it will continue. What's your view on the appetite of privates to continue to add rigs? And any color on the other 2 cohorts, the majors and the publics, and their appetite to add rigs, which is probably more of a second half question? But what are you seeing across the cohorts today?
- Scott Bender:
- Yes. I think that our view is that for the rest of the year, the large E&Ps, publicly traded E&Ps, will increase disproportionately in comparison to the privates, so kind of a reverse of what we saw earlier this year. And I don't see the majors picking up significantly until 2022. So I think the benefit from that segment will begin to crystallize maybe starting at the end of the year but certainly next year. So I think the second half of this year will be a tale of the publicly traded - large publicly traded E&Ps, at least for Cactus.
- Scott Gruber:
- Got you. And then a second question on the electric frac rental equipment. What's the outlook for additional deployments? And does deployments require basically a joint deployment with an electric frac fleet to source power? Do you source power independently? Can you deploy it in a conventional fleet? Just some color there.
- Scott Bender:
- Yes, absolutely. It was designed to be deployed with conventional fleets. So it's self-contained. It produces its own power. It can be deployed with electric fleets. We can use power off of that source. But that was not why and how it was designed. So we expect - this is really a retrofit of our existing assets. That's why the CapEx requirements are fairly modest. So we intend to roll that through the fleet between - really started - we started that in the second quarter. We'll try to complete that, to the extent the market cooperates, through the end of the year.
- Operator:
- Your next question is from the line of Tommy Moll of Stephens.
- Thomas Moll:
- I wanted to start on cost inflation, which is something that was discussed at least as early as a quarter ago. It sounds like, particularly on the product side, that market is improving and you're able to take at least enough price to continue to improve margins there. But what anecdotes can you share with us on the cost inflation side and any measures you've taken to address those?
- Scott Bender:
- I'm going to let Joel address the anecdotes because - of course, now keep in mind, Joel is going to tell you the very worst of the stories. He's not going to pat himself on the back and tell you about what he's done to mitigate the impact. But go ahead, Joel.
- Joel Bender:
- It's been a pretty challenging period, to be honest with you. It's coming from sort of all sides between raw material and freight issues and wage inflation. It's been tough all the way around. We were proactive and started early on in ordering additional products to try to keep pricing down. But we're pretty fastidious, and we're pretty tough when it comes to negotiating product. So we spend a lot of time, much more time as we normally do, working with our suppliers, trying to forecast, trying to buy the lower-priced goods as much as we could early on. And we've been successful in doing that, successful in negotiating pricing down. I've not been able to avoid increases, but I've avoided some double-digit increases that looked like they were prevalent in the marketplace. In addition, in terms of freight, we started booking early on so that we wouldn't get hit with a lot of these higher container rates. Because I'm sure you're aware, if you've read the news, that containers have gone from $2,500 in excess of $10,000 if you're trying to buy on spot market. So we book in advance. We lay our product into the ports 3 to 4 weeks in advance of shipping now. So we're trying to do anything we can to mitigate these additional costs. But the honest reality is that we do have these increases and it's a continual battle.
- Scott Bender:
- What would you say steel has gone up, for example, in the last...
- Joel Bender:
- It's been double-digit numbers. I've seen it as much as 20%, 25%, depending upon one order to the next. If I ordered something at the end of last year and I'm ordering this year, I've seen it go up that much. So it's a constant battle right now.
- Thomas Moll:
- That's all very helpful. If I could shift back to M&A, Scott, you referenced it in your comments, we've heard it from you before. At the same time, I'm curious if it appears more or less likely than, say, 90 days ago, just given that the commodity or WTI is still in the mid-60s in the industry, generally is moving up into the right. Are seller expectations at a level where transactions are more or less, you say, versus last time we spoke?
- Scott Bender:
- I'd say that the best time to have done this would have been towards the end of last year, when I first began to harp on it. I guess, I first mentioned it in the second quarter earnings call. And that's what it takes to sometimes get people over the edge. So the opportunity still exists. The prices will be higher. But Tommy, I think there are people that just are struggling to make money in North America. Even with WTI in the low 60s, I think there's some working capital challenges for people that aren't terribly well financed. The capital markets don't support this industry. So the opportunities are still there. But you know the answer to this, sellers' expectations have increased. Fortunately, our currency has as well. So I don't really see that as being an insurmountable roadblock to transacting.
- Operator:
- Your next question is from the line of George O'Leary of Tudor, Pickering, Holt & Co.
- George O'Leary:
- Just a question on incremental margins moving forward. You outlined everything really well for the second quarter. But just kind of a crystal ball question, it's not too far out, it seems like there's potential for higher incremental margins, given the fact the pattern you laid out, prices increasing, you have some cost headwinds at the moment. Assuming those cost headwinds abate, should we expect higher incrementals in the third quarter? And I'm purposefully asking a question that you can answer quickly.
- Stephen Tadlock:
- I'll answer to save him the 10 words. But yes, for Q2, obviously, they're not quite as great as we'd like in terms of our projections just because of wage reinstatements and rental margins and the pressure in that market. But like you said, we expect them to kind of return to a better level Q3 forward. And in general, we look at our adjusted EBITDA margins, and usually our incrementals are slightly better in each category on that front. So yes, I think that, that looks more positive Q3 forward.
- George O'Leary:
- Great. Helpful. And then products - I think you said products growth should outpace rental growth. Is that more of like an underlying market activity standpoint in terms of more rigs than frac spreads being added? I realize there's also a pricing component. Or is the more sluggish rental growth coming from just the pricing dynamics there still not in great position, so you're not going to play where the pricing is not attractive?
- Scott Bender:
- Yes, George, you got it.
- Operator:
- Your next question is from the line of Connor Lynagh of Morgan Stanley.
- Connor Lynagh:
- Maybe we could stay on the rental side of things here, obviously talked about how you guys are reclaiming pricing in product. What do you think it takes in rental? I mean, my general understanding is this equipment gets pretty beat up, and I think you're one of the few well-capitalized companies out there. Is there an attrition angle to this? Or do you think we need materially higher frac activity to really drive the pricing on that?
- Scott Bender:
- Yes. I think there's definitely an attrition factor that's just now coming into play, particularly because so many of our competitors are not charging for repairs and the repairs become increasingly expensive. So I think you'll see absolutely some attrition in that regard. But there also needs to be some tightening in the market. And that, coupled with attrition, I think, is why I made the comment that I think we're going to see some price improvement by the end of the year, beginning of next year. So it's a combination of those. But to be clear, we need - we really do need both.
- Connor Lynagh:
- Yes, understood. And apologies if I missed, but have you guys provided an update on the innovations on - in recent quarters here? And just any thoughts around potential uptake as the market improves here?
- Scott Bender:
- We haven't provided a whole lot of detail, except this - except to maybe mention the fact that, of course, we're going to be generating our power outside of diesel generation. So we'll be rolling that through the fleet, as I mentioned here. We're far more digitized today than we were this time last year. So we can manage all of the frac operations, for which we're responsible, remotely outside of the exclusion zone. I think that we've really begun to focus, as we did in the last market downturn, on our valve design. I think that reducing repair cost is going to be critical going forward. So we're spending a lot of time on the less sexy parts of the frac business. And that is reducing the need for really robust valve repairs. Every time a valve comes in, we're one of the few companies that completely tears a valve down to its bones and rebuilds it. And it's a very, very costly process, but it allows us to sleep at night. So we're addressing a lot of R&D efforts in that direction.
- Operator:
- Our next question is from the line of Ian MacPherson from Simmons.
- Ian MacPherson:
- You've capitalized really well on the customer mix shift this year. And part of that looks semi-structural, if not structural, with higher oil prices. And you've also spoken to the fact that those in the more commoditized part of your business are still struggling. And it seems like we're at a point of capitulation for some of those. So just given those 2 dynamics, I wanted to just ask you to muse medium, longer term on the ceiling for market share. It seems like getting up to 43% has been a good story but might not be the end of the story. So I just want to get your thoughts on that. And you can keep it 10 words or less, if you like.
- Scott Bender:
- Okay. I'm going to try. First, I'm going to reiterate what I mentioned last quarter. And that is that there is market share to be gained, but it's a matter of whether or not we can attract customers that are going to pay us for our value proposition. So not everybody is going to pay us for our value proposition. But there is - I think, everybody at Cactus believes we can add market share. The second part is that we've just witnessed a competitor going out of business in the wellhead segment. I think that, that's the first of several. Now to be sure, they're not Tier 1 players, but they have rigs. And they've been - they haven't been very constructive in terms of getting prices back up to a reasonable level. So I think this could be the year, particularly as working capital requirements increase, that we'll see some attrition in wellhead providers. I mean, you know that Weatherford announced they were going out of the wellhead business.
- Ian MacPherson:
- Yes.
- Scott Bender:
- I think there's - there are an awful lot of wellhead companies out there right now, Ian.
- Ian MacPherson:
- Good. Well, I will stay soon. I would ask another one on M&A, but I think you've addressed it for now.
- Operator:
- Your next question is from the line of Stephen Gengaro of Stifel.
- Stephen Gengaro:
- Two things if you don't mind. One, you obviously have a lot of cash. I'm just sort of curious about as you look at M&A opportunities, to the extent nothing materializes, what is - any sense for time frame and/or willingness to change the dividend policy? I mean, obviously, there's a lot of people there who care. But just curious your perspective on that as of today.
- Scott Bender:
- Yes. I'm going to have to give you the same answer I've given before. And that is that we're still the largest shareholders. So all this cash on our balance sheet is not helpful for the family since we don't work for a salary. So it's not our best interest to keep this cash on our balance sheet. Having said that, the only reason we're keeping it in our balance sheet is that we have a fairly, I guess, optimistic view of opportunities this year. If those opportunities turn out not to come to fruition, then clearly, we're going to expand our dividend. This is - I'm not going to hang around forever waiting for an M&A opportunity. Because I think, frankly, as the market - as we talked about earlier, as the market heals itself, the opportunities probably will reduce, at least at a decent price.
- Stephen Gengaro:
- Got it. And then you talked a little bit about international. If - as we think about the impact that has, I mean, would you think we'd start to see a meaningful impact in '22? Or do you think it's going to take a little longer to kind of gain momentum and see kind of a more significant profit impact later than that? How should we sort of think about the timing?
- Scott Bender:
- I think second half of 2022.
- Operator:
- . Your next question is from the line of David Smith of Heikkinen Energy Advisors.
- David Smith:
- I wanted to make sure that I heard correctly on the Q2 rental guidance. Did you say revenue up high single digits, margins in the 50% range?
- Scott Bender:
- Yes.
- David Smith:
- Okay. And I expected Q1 rental margins may have reflected some impact from the storm disruptions. So I was just hoping you might help with some color behind the segment margin stepping down a little in Q2. Is this flattish pricing and rising costs? Is there something else, maybe staging for international deployment, weighing more?
- Scott Bender:
- So it is, in fact, the pricing environment that's not very helpful. We do have - we don't have great visibility in our frac business as we've mentioned before. But we've got - we are preparing ourselves for a couple of very large deployments in June and July so that's impacting our margins. But I would say, really, most of it has to do with just this pricing environment more than anything else.
- Operator:
- There are no further questions. Presenters, please continue.
- Scott Bender:
- Okay. Thanks, everybody. I appreciate your time and your interest in Cactus. Stay safe.
- Operator:
- And with that, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for attending. You may now disconnect.
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