The Western Union Company
Q1 2021 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Good day, and welcome to the Western Union Company First Quarter 2021 Earnings Release Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note, today's event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Brendan Metrano, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
- Brendan Metrano:
- Thank you. On today’s call, we will discuss the company’s first quarter 2021 results, our financial outlook for 2021, and then we will take questions. The slides that accompany this call and webcast can be found at westernunion.com under the Investor Relations tab and will remain available after the call. Additional operational statistics have been provided in supplemental tables with our press release. On our call today is our CEO, Hikmet Ersek; our CFO, Raj Agrawal; and Head of Treasury and Investor Relations, Brad Windbigler. Today’s call is being recorded and our comments include forward-looking statements. Please refer to the cautionary language in the earnings release and in Western Union’s filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including the 2020 Form 10-K for additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the forward-looking statements. During the call, we will discuss some items that do not conform to generally accepted accounting principles. We have reconciled those items to the most comparable GAAP measures on our website westernunion.com under the Investor Relations section. We will also discuss certain adjusted metrics. The expenses that have been excluded from adjusted metrics are specific to certain initiatives, but maybe similar to the types of expenses that the company has previously incurred and can reasonably expect to incur in the future. All statements made by Western Union Officers on this call are the property of The Western Union Company and subject to copyright protection. Other than the replay noted in our press release, Western Union has not authorized and disclaims responsibility for any recording, replay or distribution of any transcription of this call. I will now turn the call over to our CEO, Hikmet Ersek.
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Thank you, Brendan and thank you all for joining us this afternoon. As noted in today's press release, our business is off to a good start in what we believe is a very important year for Western Union. We weathered COVID-19 better than many companies in 2020 owing to our resilient fundamentals and the foresight behind our leading digital business that had us ready for accelerated demand for digital services. Before I give you an update about the encouraging first quarter results and share my thoughts about the rest of the year, I would like to take a moment and mention that although we do see some modest economic improvements and there are signs of some COVID-19 recovery like in the U.S., parts of Europe and parts of Asia Pacific due to progress with vaccinations. At the same time, I am saddened by the heartbreaking current situation in countries like India, Brazil and many others.
- Raj Agrawal:
- Thank you, Hikmet and good afternoon everyone. Please note that my comments I will refer to first quarter results compared to the prior year period unless otherwise noted. Moving to first quarter results, revenue of $1.2 billion increased 2% on both a reported and constant currency basis. Currency translation, net of the impact from hedges had a limited impact on first quarter revenues. In the C2C segment revenue increased 4% on a reported basis or 2% constant currency with transaction growth partially offset by mix. B2C transactions grew 9% for the quarter led by 77% transaction growth in digital money transfer. Retail money transfer transactions were down in the quarter, but the business continued to move in the right direction with trends improving sequentially from the fourth quarter. Mix impact from the high growth of digital white label partnerships and account to account digital transactions both lower revenue per transaction for RPT continued to contribute to a spread between C2C transaction and revenue growth in the quarter. We do expect this gap to moderate over the next three quarters. Total C2C cross-border principle increased to 28% on a reported basis or 26% constant currency, driven by growth in digital money transfer and retail. Total C2C principal per transaction or PPT was up 15% or 12% constant currency, led by retail and wu.com. Evolving business mix coupled with changes in consumer behavior more widely contributed to higher PPT. Digital money transfer revenues, which include wu.com and digital partnerships increased 45% on a reported basis or 44% constant currently. Similar to the broader C2C business, the mix impact from digital white label partnerships and account to account digital transactions contributed to a spread between transaction and revenue growth, and from our vantage point, the pricing environment in the digital market remains constructive.
- Operator:
- First question comes from Jason Kupferberg with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
- Jason Kupferberg:
- Thanks, good afternoon guys. Nice job here on the quarter and that's what I wanted to start with here. So your adjusted constant currency revenue growth came in at up 2%. I think you had been expecting it to be more in line with Q4 which was down 1%, so that was materially better. And I wanted to get a sense of whether the upside surprise here was primarily the digital side of C2C or were there other areas of the business that also outperformed your expectations?
- Hikmet Ersek:
- I think it's a good question, Jason. Hi, how are you doing? I believe that all over the company we see really the business coming back. Obviously, the digital business has been extraordinary again delivering. And if you think that the growth rates coming from a huge base already compared with the competition, and I think we are targeting $1 billion plus for year end, and we are well on the way. We assume dotcom business has been performing very well, and we see also a lot of customer acquisition on western.com business new customers, and that has been doing well. And the most important one, a big part of our retail business is recovering. Right? And this is added to our 2% growth and as we see, look, the COVID-19 is not over. It's still there, but we do see some recoveries and that helps our business. People are using more digital, but certainly coming back to our retail business.
- Jason Kupferberg:
- And just a quick one may be the wu.com constant currency revenue growth accelerated to 37% from 26% last quarter. It looks like the transaction growth there was pretty stable, so just wondering if there were some mix factors that worked in your favor during first quarter in wu.com? Thanks.
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Yes hi, Jason, not, not really. We continue to get growth throughout the dotcom business. I would say that the yields on dotcom were relatively stable from Q4 to Q1, and but in the transactions we all stayed quite stable to Q4 as you said, and so that just provided the overall lift in the business, and the RPT was quite stable as well. And I think it's really playing out according to our expectations and we see good things for the entire digital business this year.
- Jason Kupferberg:
- Okay. Thank you.
- Operator:
- Our next question today comes from Darrin Peller with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.
- Darrin Peller:
- Hey guys, thanks. If we look at the trends, if you can give us a little more detail on the trends, call it second half March exiting the quarter into April, specifically on the digital side because I think folks are looking into how sustainable that growth rate will be as we start to lap the big growth you had in digital, sometime last year? And then the second part of this question is, also on the retail growth, you're saying it's going to grow. When we compare retail to 2019, do you actually anticipate getting back to those levels again? So if we can get that on top of digital strength, would be good to see. Thanks.
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Yes, hi, Darrin. Let me try to address both questions. The first one, as we have mentioned when we gave the outlook initially earlier this year, Digital is going to moderate in the second, third and fourth quarter, and that's what we expect to happen because we got the largest growth and strongest growth beginning in the second quarter of last year. And, then yes, so that's what you should expect, but we're still going to get above $1 billion dollars in total digital revenue. So that should give you a sense of the overall growth potential in that business. With respect to retail, we're probably not going to get back to 2019 levels this year, but it's going to be, it really depends on what happens. Certainly, there'll be some rollover impact, but we have other things that are coming into the business, like a Walmart and other initiatives in the second half of the year. So those will also play a big part in where the retail business goes.
- Darrin Peller:
- Okay. I guess my follow up is really around the digital transformation you have in the company. Hikmet, there's been a lot of discussion over taking some of this active user growth on westernunion.com and trying to monetize it more. And I think you alluded to some of the profile of underbanked or migrant customer base being pretty strong. So what kind of progression can we expect to see from you guys around that throughout this year? Thanks again.
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Yes, good question. Obviously, via westernunion.com we have direct access to customers. It's really where we communicate directly with our customers and we know that westernunion.com customers are more loyal to Western Union. They use more often, and we can communicate directly with them. And what we do, we are in 75 countries and these customers are migrant customers. For instance UK to Albanian customers we speak in Albanian, in Italy to Romanian customers we speak in Romanian. Right? And they trust us. They also tell us that they really want new products besides Western Union services. The financial services will be the focus area, which we are looking at that. We started tests this year in Europe with our European -- with our Western Union International Bank license, and we are going to learn more on that. But long-term I really see a big opportunity here. We have about 9 million customers in westernunion.com and it's growing. You just saw the numbers coming in the new customer acquisition, and this is a big opportunity. Besides having our core business which is the money transfer business, really adding additional services long-term.
- Darrin Peller:
- Understood. Thanks guys.
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Thanks.
- Operator:
- Our next question comes from Tien-tsin Huang with JP Morgan. Please go ahead.
- Tien-tsin Huang:
- Thanks, good afternoon. I appreciate the discussion on the digital. I'm curious about the 9 million active user figure. If I remember and I could be wrong, I think at some point you disclosed 150 million active customers in your traditional retail business, so I'm curious how you think about that 9 million today and where it can go, how much of it is new, anything that you've learned in terms of customer acquisition costs, things like that? Thank you.
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Sure. Hi Tien-tsin. Great question you asked me that earlier also, I remember. We have about 150 million customers globally, more half of them are senders and half of them are kind of receivers. Right? So our focus obviously with the financial services, additional customer segment at westernunion.com is obviously from the send side in the beginning and but also on the receive side, we know that the customers want to get more services, is it in Romania, is it in Poland or is it in Morocco, they tell us we did some customer service here. So, there are two ways to go, first of all we are going directly with our westernuion.com business which we are the agent directly to our customers acquiring them and we know their usages, more often with that. The second thing is that we do have, as you know, some locations we have higher traffic, kind of, focus on the ethnic groups, saying that okay they would like to send money from France to Morocco, they like to send money from Germany to Turkey and this kind of customers we have dedicated locations, and these are also repeat customers. And we are also acquiring them and building to our consumer ecosystem because they tell us also they would like to have additional services. One example is our test with insurance services, with AXA. As you know AXA is one of the largest insurance companies worldwide. And with them we are doing a test in France, and really expanding our tests to the next stages, seeing that our customers want additional services, and I see long-term really a revenue opportunity for the company.
- Tien-tsin Huang:
- Okay great, now that's great to hear. And listening to our conversation segment that's, I'm glad that you're able to share that. My quick follow up if you don't mind, just on the India front and that's really great that you guys are doing a relief effort there by the way, thanks for that. I'm curious if you could see any interesting trends there, because I know India is an important receive nation for you?
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Yes, I mean obviously India is very important for us. First of all, as I said in my remarks, we have billions of customers there. They make the change there when they receive money. We have 1000's of employees there. They have been going through that very difficult times, but not only in India, we see all over the world. And you know private there are also family there, as you can imagine we are taking care looking at that daily. From the business side, I mean, all the locations are still open Tien-tsin. They are seen as, essential services, is that our post office locations, bank locations. As you know we have huge networks there, but we also have dedicated retail locations, they are open. And then the biggest growth is coming from account payouts. We have a huge account payout network in India. You can send directly money to an account in real-time and many people are using and this basically our goal is fastest growing, I mean in absolute numbers, is not that big but it's the fastest growing part of our business paying out in accounts. And that helps people in India a lot, because believe me the situation in India is not easy, but the people are really getting that the -- we see also the same sight. People around the world sending and thinking about their relative and sending money and the money is used for essential services, for health services and other things. So, thanks for asking that question.
- Tien-tsin Huang:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question today comes from Rayna Kumar with Evercore. Please go ahead.
- Rayna Kumar:
- Good evening Hikmet and Raj. As you mentioned in your commentary, there was a spread between your C2C revenue and your transaction which was largely driven by the white label partnerships. Could you talk specifically about if there were any pricing changes, positive or negative that may have impacted that spread? And also I will ask my follow-up upfront. You've had dynamic pricing initiative in place for quite a while now, can you talk about how that's performed versus your expectations? Thank you.
- HikmetErsek:
- Yes Rayna. Let me take the first part. On the spread, what you're seeing is really the year-over-year exchangers that are causing the spread. From a pricing standpoint, the yields have been relatively stable since the third quarter of last year and as well as the digital white label mix, that's also having an impact. But as I mentioned in my comments, the spread between revenues and transactions is going to narrow the next three quarters. And you'll see that happening and there are reasons why we have, that we will not have as much of an incremental number of transactions from digital white label. We also -- the pricing is relatively stable for wu.com and then retail is having a significant rebound this year and you'll see that starting in the second quarter. So, the spread is going to narrow quite a bit. And then in terms of dynamic pricing, we have a number of things that we've been putting in place. We are doing a lot of testing all the time looking at various technology improvements.
- Raj Agrawal:
- Yes, I just, as you know we just had another business review on that Rayna, it's a great question and it does have a big impact to our growth and our customer acquisition and still keeping the revenues in a very good growth area. We do extend that. We started the westernunion.com. Now we also do it in retail business, especially in the locations and we see the return there and this dynamic pricing will be really maybe one of the best worldwide in the future because we hired also really great people who are experts and that was my comment also executive hiring on the tech part. We hired great people. They really show us how that works. And I am very encouraged by dynamic pricing activities and so that keeps really the pricings very flexible.
- Operator:
- Thank you. And our next question today comes from James Faucette with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
- James Faucette:
- Thanks very much and thanks for all the details and color on your business thus far this year. A couple of questions from me to kind of follow-up on things that you've mentioned, last year particularly in the June quarter and as the pandemic was first setting in, I mean you talked a little bit about how the nature of some of your wu.com customers, their profiles and their activity was different. I am just wondering if you have any color on how retention of those customers that were added at that period has developed, if you continue to see ongoing engagement from them? I'm just trying to get a little bit of idea if there has been any incremental change in your customer profile generally?
- Raj Agrawal:
- I would say, James, this is Raj. I would just say that the profile of the customer has continued to be very strong. The retention levels have continued to increase. These customers are transacting at a frequent level and at a higher PPTs or Principal Per Transaction in the business and that's really having a positive impact on the overall company. The digital part of the business was one of the key drivers of the overall prosper the principal growth, so it's a high quality customer.
- HikmetErsek:
- Digital partner, just to put things in perspective, we had announced that in late 2019 and since then our digital partners revenue doubled. I mean this is really incremental hallmark to our core business. And on the -- our customer on westernunion.com, look these are -- we know that they are more loyal and they use more often 80% of the customers, around 80% still new to Western Union trend, which is great. Right? I mean really it’s a different customer segment and their behaviors are a little bit different than the retail behavior. They do use sometimes higher RPT, sometimes lower RPT, really are flexible more often. But also they send a lot of money to a wallet or to an account. So, it is incremental to us and it's really -- it's not like you know suddenly all the retail customers are switching to Western Union, Western Union with that approach extended the portfolio and extended the markets share. That's the good news here.
- Raj Agrawal:
- Yes, and I think the -- the other factors that need to receive money, hasn't gone away, it's higher than ever before in terms of people and receive markets wanting to get money and the digital customers continue to send money at a frequent pace.
- James Faucette:
- Yes, I know that's great incremental information there and it seems like you're doing a good job retaining them. My other question was, as it relates to the Walmart relationship and just looking for a little bit more detail there from your expected or as it relates to your expectations, can you talk about what contribution you think you can get from Walmart, and I guess specifically as well, does this relationship make you available in Walmart's international stores?
- HikmetErsek:
- Yes, actually I'm very excited about that. We had Walmart relationship with Mexico and Canada for multi-years now. They are enrolling as we speak the U.S. relationship we already enrolled like 10% or 20% percent of the locations and by Q2, we will have all 4700 locations enrolled. We already see good signs of customers, which we starts to enroll. We didn't even start with the marketing activities yet to announce it and that will definitely give our additional incremental revenue from -- since we announced. But it is within our forecast. The numbers we hope that that will be and especially in the later part of this year, have an impact to our growth rates and we are very excited about that. And I know that Walmart is also very excited about that -- our relationship that brings definitely customers, incremental customers to their stores. And the cooperation with Walmart has been excellent. We upgraded our point of sale, we worked hard with them to have the best of customer experience on the point of sale and this is important for Walmart and we really adapted the team we got, we have our own key account management there, really focused on the -- we built a new organization around Walmart. We have our own key account management there to drive the transactions and the revenue at Walmart locations.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question today comes from our Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi. Please go ahead.
- AshwinShirvaikar:
- Thank you. Hi Hikmet. Hi Raj. Good to hear from you both.
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Hi Ashwin.
- AshwinShirvaikar:
- Hi. So, my first question is with regards to the trend in average monthly active users for wu.com. Obviously over the last four quarters you guys have maintained sort of this nice mid-forties, upper forties growth trajectory. Do you -- does it necessarily have to go back down to prior levels in the mid-teens type of growth or can you sustain for a few more quarters this type of growth? And may be if you could comment on what you saw in April that might be like a clue to that? I don't know if you could talk about quarter-to-date type trends?
- Raj Agrawal:
- Hi Ashwin. On the monthly active average users, I can say the absolute level will continue to be strong, but because of the significant growth from last year we will start to grow over that like we are for the revenues and transactions of that business. So, it's just a function of numbers going over, but the level of customers and the level of the healthiness of the customers and what they're doing with our business has been very high and we expect that to continue.
- HikmetErsek:
- And we are still, it's an amazing number Ashwin, $1 billion plus only on digital revenue, right? I mean this is as Western Union is a big contributor of that always westernunion.com a big contributor of that. And if you think, just think about that, $1 billion plus, it's like to the next competitors both revenue almost and better area. So, it is really an impressive number and I'm very proud of my team and how we are expanding that. So, it is definitely something really growing very fast.
- Operator:
- Thank you. And our next question today is from Jeff Cantwell with Guggenheim Securities. Please go ahead.
- Jeff Cantwell:
- Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Nice results here. I wanted to ask you one about digital. Now when we all talk about digital, I think oftentimes the focus tends to be what's occurring on the frontend, meaning how you are growing digital revenue and how you're adjusting your customer base. But it's also sounding now based on your prepared remarks, like we might want to be thinking about digital on the other side of that coin as well, which is the things we are doing to modernize/digitize yourselves internally. Maybe it’s data, maybe it's cloud, migrate to the cloud, et cetera. So, I wanted to ask you if you could talk a little bit about that? What have you been doing internally to modernize/digitize yourselves operationally? And one of the reasons I'm asking is because we saw that caught up by Snowflake and their partnership with you guys. And it got us thinking maybe there's been some progress you're making on the backend. So, I was hoping you can maybe share with us, it seems like it might be a nice way to generate some cost savings potentially. So, I was hoping if you could talk about that? Thanks.
- HikmetErsek:
- Yes. I think it's -- what I understood, sorry the connection was not that well. What I understood is that, how do we digitalize also our platform? What do we do here? And also on the receive side how do we do that? You know not only on the send side, but that was the question I guess. Let me start and Raj would like to -- if you would like to add something, more than welcome. Well, obviously digitalization on the front line didn't happen if you don't digitalize your -- invest in your technology. You know recent announcement like artificial intelligence, recent announcement what we did putting our system in the clouds and also our new multiyear settlement transformation program has been big announcement to allow that we are so successful on the front line on the digitalization. And that's going to continue. That's only the beginning, I think on our big part of our investment are really having to -- being a tech company, being a tech spec company and really going that direction. And look, just to put things in perspective, we are settling in 180 -- 130 currencies. We are doing and moving billions of billions of money monthly, yearly, around in 131 currencies and that's a huge benefit due to our technology, due to our settlement program, due to our artificial intelligence, which we use in compliance programs. So, that's going to continue to do -- doing this our platform more nimble and faster and more agile. The other side on that is that maybe, if I got your second question -- second part of your question on the receive side. We do also see more and more sending money to wallets, sending money to accounts and people are -- if that's available in the area, the people are getting money on wallets and using their wallets. And you know they use sometimes for merchants, sometimes cash it out from their wallets. Sometimes they put it on their accounts. I think there's a really new customer segment we see with our digitalization. Anything you want to add on that, Raj?
- Raj Agrawal:
- No, it broke up at the beginning and Jamie, this is you right?
- Jeff Cantwell:
- This is Jeff.
- Raj Agrawal:
- Oh, sorry, you broke up at the beginning. I couldn't tell at the beginning. But yes, I mean I think it's really we talked about settlement system. That's a brand new settlement system we went live with the biggest piece there. We are moving many of our operations to the cloud. All of these things are going to translate into efficiencies down the road, not just in terms of cost savings, but also in terms of how we can interact with the customer and even provide more feedback and information to the customer, making that engagement process very strong. So, you're right on the mark, yes that is exactly what we are doing and need to continue to do.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question today comes from Timothy Chiodo with Credit Suisse Securities.
- Timothy Chiodo:
- Thanks a lot. I want to change gears a little bit. You mentioned some of your partnerships to help expand some of your local payout options, whether it be direct to account or potentially to cards, and also just in light of Visa talking about their partnerships with you, why is particulary MoneyGram and they publicly call it out multiple times, very strong transaction growth within remittances, with the Visa Direct and combination, I just wanted to see if you could bring that to life a little bit more. I know we've talked about this in the past but when would be a good use case that your platform would utilize that, does it come down to the consumer choice they would like to send the card, or is it to extend your account to account payout capabilities, or what are the other use cases?
- Hikmet Ersek:
- So the use cases obviously it depends on the customer need cases. Right? And if you send money we have by the way a partnership with MasterCard, we have partnership with Visa, we have with other companies the partnership. We do the same thing that others do also. And the most important thing also we have direct access to their accounts, most of our account payout is, we don't use a switch, we go directly to the bank accounts which is more efficient faster and in real time. So if you send money from here to for let's say from Denver to Bihar in a location in India to a bank account we could do it directly to a bank account in real time. And these are big advantage for Western Union has it, and it depends also we do have wallet payouts. We've sent direct money to wallets and really depends on the customer use cases. Saying that though, today most of the customers do have cash payout. We do cash payouts. The fastest growing part is that digital payout, but the most of the customers still have cash payout. The reason is very, we have to understand or send and receive dynamics. On some parts of the world, there is no infrastructure to do online payments, there's no infrastructure to the credit card payments. The point of sale systems are not there yet. Mobile payments is sometimes challenged. We do definitely read some time headlines, we all get excited, but the reality is also to paying out to serve into the last mile to the customers, they can go pick up the money and go to a pharmacy and get healthy for probably with that money or pay school fees. We should not forget that there are 7 billion people worldwide, and they have different needs. Saying that, Western Union adopted the processes, the customer needs all the time, as I said earlier, the fastest growing receipt site where dropping money is the account and is the wallet. But the biggest part is still cash payouts and the retail locations.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question today comes from Bryan Keane with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead.
- Bryan Keane:
- Hi guys, how are you doing?
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Hey, Bryan.
- Bryan Keane:
- I'm doing well, I'm doing well. Solid results here, just wanted to ask on digital. I'm just trying to think about as we anniversary the large growth rates, what a normalized growth rate might look like and some of the drivers there, thinking about partnerships. Maybe how fast retail comes back, some of the things we think about on what a normal digital business might look like as we get through some of the tougher comps. And then secondly, just on the margins, Raj, typically, if you had faster revenue growth or higher revenue growth, you'll have higher margin, but it sounds like you're going to maybe take that opportunity to push some of the investments in 2Q and then maybe some of those expire as you get into 3Q to 4Q and why margins will get a little bit larger in the back half? Thanks.
- Raj Agrawal:
- Sure, Bryan. Let me try to address both and then Hikmet can jump in as well if he would like to on anything. On the digital growth, if I just take you back 18 months to that Investor Day, that we had in the fall of 2019, we thought we could grow digital in the 20% range. None of us expected to have happened what happened last year with the level digit growth that we had. But we would love to see if it can get back to 20% range on an ongoing basis, but we're not giving a long-term outlook right now, but that would be a good place for it to be because then it becomes a significant contributor to the overall company's topline.
- Hikmet Ersek:
- I think Bryan just said on that, sorry I interrupted you. But think about that, the digital business is a much bigger base today. So, it's stronger growth, it is possible long term. I really don't give long term guidance, but it is possible the stronger growth long term, because we are growing from a digital business with a stronger growth with a bigger base and of this year, billion dollar plus hopefully, and growing from that with a bigger strong -- I'm confident about long-term opportunities of the company.
- RajAgrawal:
- And it's certainly, one thing is for sure is that it's changed the overall business mix of the company. In 2019 we were thinking about a $600 million business, now we're talking about $1 billion business, so it becomes a bigger piece of the overall pie and it will have a bigger impact. And then on your question around margins, I think you said it right. We are going to have some continued spending in the second quarter. The second quarter is probably going to have the best revenue growth of the year, given what happened last year with the dip that we had in the second quarter. And then margins will gradually improve in the next three quarters, and so the second half is going to be above the full year average based on our current view and the first half is going to be below the full year average. But it's not about any other component of business, it's just the timing of spending, I would say on those components.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question today comes from Ramsey El-Assal with Barclays. Please go ahead.
- Ramsey El-Assal:
- Hi gentlemen. Thanks for taking my question today. I wonder if you could comment on your M&A strategy? And in particular, is it evolving in the context of your more intense focus on kind of consumer product development and innovation? Are you positioned now to maybe do some deals to kind of expand the breadth of your product offerings that maybe weren't sort of in your view a year or two ago?
- Hikmet Ersek:
- I think first of all our M&A strategy is very much aligned with our corporate strategy, obviously with our operating strategy. And if you look at our business model, obviously, expanding to the consumer ecosystem, which is very exciting, is that anything which can help us to communicate with the customer in a better way, is there really connect with the customer in a better way in a technology environment. That's something we are looking at it. Are there companies there, you could support in our vision to grow, to be faster, to offer additional services, that could be some exciting thing. But then the other side also we are looking on M&A opportunities as we do all the time, which would make our platform more agile, faster, higher technology. And the third one is probably, is there also other companies which will we could find synergy effects? So that's really our strategy. It is nothing without the ordinary our existing strategy. And so, this is the environment we are looking at. I mean, it has to be also obviously the most important thing it has to have a good return for shareholders.
- Operator:
- Thank you. And our next question today comes from Andrew Jeffery with Truist Securities. Please go ahead.
- Andrew Jeffery:
- Hi good afternoon, gentlemen. I appreciate you taking the question. We noticed that, I notieced that capitalized agent costs have risen I think for four quarters having stayed low for quite some time.
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Well, can you speak up a little bit? It's very irritating hearing you out.
- Andrew Jeffery:
- Thank you. Sorry about that. Hopefully this is better. I'm just asking about capitalized agent costs which I've noticed have risen four quarters in a row, after having been pretty low for an extended period of time. So wondering if you can just talk about agent economics and the competitive environment on that front?
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Yes, Andrew we -- for CapEx, if you look at our historical numbers, we've been in the 3% to 5% of revenues range for capital expenditures and we expect that to be the case again this year. The last couple of years, you're right, we were at the lower end of that range, but it's been in the 3% to 5% range and the signing bonuses, agent bonuses can be lumpy in nature. It just depends on when the renewals actually come through, but nothing unusual. I mean in any given year because our most of our contracts are five years in maturity, we have about 20% of our contracts renewing in a given year, and so sometimes that's going to mean some bigger agents and smaller agents, so nothing unusual there. It's just part of the plan and we're within the range again for the full year.
- Operator:
- Thank you. It looks like we have time for one more question. Our next question comes from Susquehanna. Please go ahead.
- Unidentified Analyst:
- Good results here guys. I just wanted to ask the two major digital partners that you showcased at the Analyst Day and when it was back at 2019, is there one that's more pronounced than the other? I mean obviously they are both doing great, but yes if we could just compare like the Saudi versus the Russia, that would be helpful. Thank you.
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Yes, I think so from performance wise they are very exciting both partners, they are the largest obviously as we said and they are contributing incremental transactions in revenue to our with the high profits over the contribution margins are amazing of these two partners, which we really like and we see that as incremental. We do also, by the way, we do also other partners right? It is not only they do it. We have only two partners. We do have other partners, but they are smaller, that's why we don’t call them out. But you know, we have about, I would say 50 plus, almost 100 partners like that, but smaller banks or even financial institutions. They don’t have that amount of big transactions. I am very excited also about Saudi Arabia Telecom Company. As you know, we saw reinvestment there in the Saudi Arabia Telecom Company and so we will hopefully close within this quarter this deal with them and this deal gives us also the opportunity to expand and learn with them and expend the ecosystem into Saudi Arabia and being a partner with them really serving the Saudi Arabian customer more than only sending money, it is aligned with our, to the previous question with M&A, it is aligned with our strategy. It is within their ecosystem we are doing together. We have a good partner here. It is a long-term. It is very fast growing partner and we are excited about that.
- Brendan Metrano:
- Great. I want to thank everybody for your time today and your interest in Western Union and look forward to speaking in the future.
- Operator:
- Thank you. This concludes today's…
- Hikmet Ersek:
- Thank you and stay healthy. That's important. All the best.
- Operator:
- Thank you all for joining today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.
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