X4 Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Q4 2020 Earnings Call Transcript
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- Operator:
- Greetings and welcome to X4 Pharmaceuticals Fourth Quarter Financial and Operating Results Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. As a reminder this conference call is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Dan Ferry of LifeSci Advisors. Please begin.
- Daniel Ferry:
- Thank you, Operator. And good morning everyone. Thanks so much for joining us. Presenting on today's call will be X4’s Chief Executive Officer, Dr. Paula Ragan, and the company’s Chief Financial Officer, Adam Mostafa.
- Paula Ragan:
- Thanks Dan, and thank you all for joining us on the call this morning. We hope that you are all safe and healthy. As with many companies, 2020 drew some unexpected and significant challenges our way, certainly with the COVID pandemic was chief among them. And working within our company were many patients that were immunocompromised that resulted in challenges for the enrollment of our clinical trials. However, I’m extremely proud of the work done by our team in mitigating these obstacles. We made significant progress in the clinical development of our lead candidate mavorixafor and have an experience leadership team in place to execute on our 2021 goal and beyond. As a reminder mavorixafor is our first-in-class small molecule antagonist of the chemokine receptor, CXCR4 being developed as a once-daily oral therapy to treat a number of conditions caused by excessive signalling in the CXCR4, CXCR12 pathway. Our most advanced mavofixafor program is in WHIM syndrome. As you may recall WHIM is a rare inherited primary immunodeficiency disease caused by gain of function CXCR4 mutations that prevents the healthy trafficking of the immune cell and effective immuno survelliance. We believe mavorixafor has the potential to be the first disease modifying therapy for the more than 3500 estimated diagonised and undiagonised WHIM patients in the U.S. We are currently conducting a global Phase 3 clinical trial in WHIM syndrome. The 4WHIM trial is a randomized double-blinded placebo controlled multi central study designed to evaluate the safety and efficacy of mavorixafor and genetically confirmed to WHIM patients. The primary efficacy endpoints for the trial will compare the level of circulating these results relative to a clinically meaningful threshold in response to treatment with mavorixafor before versus placebo, measured over the course of 52 weeks.
- Adam Mostafa:
- Thanks, Paula. And thanks to all of you on the call today. As presented in our press release this morning, I will summarize our financial activities and results for the fourth quarter and full year ended December 31, 2020. As of the end of the year, X4 had $80.7 million in cash, cash equivalents and restricted cash. We continue to expect that our cash and cash equivalents will fund our operations into 2022.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Please stand by while we compile the Q&A roster. Our first question comes from Stephen Willey, with Stifel. Your line is now open.
- Stephen Willey:
- Yes, good morning, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I guess, Paula, and maybe you can just kind of frame up expectations for us in terms of what this first WHIM or Waldenström’s disclosure might look like just in terms of, I guess, maybe timing. And there's a couple of potential venues on the medical conference front in the first half of the year. What we might be able to expect in terms of just patient numbers, and then also what a median duration of follow up in those patients might look like?
- Paula Ragan:
- Sure, thanks, Steve. So the plan is to present the data at a medical conference. Of course, that's not always in our control. But we are likely to aim for one of the more visible conferences like EHA. And there's some other conferences around that same timeframe, that could be a good fit as well. And in terms of the data, it's an open-label Phase 1b as you know, with three different cohorts. So we'll present the presenting data, which will support a demonstration of obviously safety and dose escalation. And then patients have joined the trial at various time points. So we will be providing, a range of treatment times for that initial cohort of patients and also be providing IgM changes as well as hemoglobin changes, which are indicative of activity. I think the most important thing for people to recognize as we'll aim to provide some relevant benchmarks so people can put our data in context with standard-of-care. And so I think that's, that's the plan at this point.
- Stephen Willey:
- Okay, that's helpful. And I guess as you continue to characterize some of these additional CXCR4 mutations, have you gained any insight as to whether or not certain mutations within Waldenström’s are more oncogenic just in terms of pathogenicity?
- Paula Ragan:
- Yes, so there there are, there's one reference in the literature that talks about sort of two different buckets of mutations in Waldenström, some possibly a little bit more impactful than others. And we certainly reflect on that and think that's important sort of information to be tracking. At this point, we're tracking that within our patients, but we'll use our own data set to better inform us on how to think about variant mutations and how they may or may not impact clinical outcomes. I think just overall, the data are still early across the board. And so we look forward to contributing that to that total data set with our own study.
- Stephen Willey:
- Okay, and then just lastly, do you maybe just talk about some of the pediatric work that you may have planned for, for when, I guess, specifically in the context of having the voucher now, potentially available? And I think I think the age cut-off for women is 12 years, if I remember correctly?
- Paula Ragan:
- Yes, that's right. So the on-going study does capture the adolescent population, in terms of expanding our studies beyond the age of 12 we're currently evaluating that. Certainly our goal is to always move forward in a safe way for patients and then expand as appropriate. So we're learning that certainly on our sort of near term list of priorities, and we'll be glad to update you when we have better clarity on how we'll be initiating studies in younger populations.
- Stephen Willey:
- All right. Thanks for taking the questions.
- Paula Ragan:
- Thanks, Steve.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question comes from Joel Beatty with Citi Your line is now open.
- Joel Beatty:
- Hi, thanks for taking the questions. First one is, in the previous question you talked about what to expect from this Phase 1 from Waldenström that are coming around later in the first half, could you compare that with what to expect in the data set that's expected towards the end of 2021?
- Paula Ragan:
- Sure, so most Phase 1b studies in Waldenström, obviously are focused on safety and dose. But predictably, they also are assessing changes in IgM, as well as hemoglobin as a measure of activity against the disease. So the early part of this year, we'll be looking at changes and those two metrics, in addition to safety and dose over time, the longer term outcomes enable us to measure response rates, which are more robust in terms of their requirements. So typically, that includes imaging for patients who have systemic disease, as well as bone marrow assessments.
- Joel Beatty:
- Okay, great. And then for one syndrome, can you help us think about, the enrollment speed, and seems to be a little bit slower than first expected? And how to think of it in light of what that may mean for patient interests? And I asked, because you've done a lot of work characterizing the size of the patient population out there, and it seems like it's more than 3500 patients in the U.S. alone. And there's no approved targeted therapies like this. So it seems like, perhaps, the need for interest enrollment might be a little bit faster than then what we've been seeing. So can you help us kind of reconcile those two thoughts? Thanks.
- Paula Ragan:
- Sure. No, it's a great question. I wish enrollments, I think most of us in the industry wished enrollment would correlate with patient numbers. Unfortunately, that's not the case. Patients in sites need to be lined up. The lead time for opening sites in a geographic region that supports patients and minimizes their travel requirements, especially during the COVID pandemic was set before COVID hit us. So really, this is a story of matching patients to open sites supporting their travel and risk profiles for COVID. We identified patients well in advance of opening our space to make sure we could optimize across the globe, in terms of how we would logistically open these trials. So I don't have anything to offer other than to suggest that the connectivity is not there for the industry. And unfortunately, it's not there for us as well. The good news is we've known our patients now for quite a period of time. They're ready, they're there and 2021 will be the year we successfully enroll this trial and communicate that to the industry.
- Joel Beatty:
- Great, thank you very much.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question comes from Leland Gershell with Oppenheimer. Your line is now open.
- Leland Gershell:
- Hey, good morning, Paula and Adam thanks for taking the question. Just want to ask in terms of the open label update in the Phase 2 and WHIM will you also be targeting EHA or would it be later in the year just want to have some color around the timing of that? And also want to ask just in terms of the earlier pipeline. Just wanted to check in and see how any progress may be going with some of the earlier candidates you have in the pipeline? Thank you.
- Paula Ragan:
- Sure. Diego, would you like to comment on the open label extension? And then Art would like to comment on the pipeline? Go ahead, Diego.
- Diego Cadavid:
- Yes, thank you, Paula. Yes, we are planning for a later disclosure of their Phase 2 WHIM open label extension, and not at EHA, but most likely later in the year or early next year. And Art, would you like to comment on the pipeline?
- Art Taveras:
- Sure. Thank you, Diego. Thank you Paula. Hi. Yes, the pipeline actually, I'm pretty excited about where we're going with them. We've been looking at some of the profiles of various molecules, we have pre very deep target series, and we're looking for opportunities. And so this year, I think we're going to be able to push something towards into the IND enabling studies with the hope of getting something into the clinic next year. So that's the goal. We got some pretty good profiles were able to penetrate. I think that leaves us with opportunities for some brain related diseases that are associated with the CXCR4 for regulation. And then we have compounds that look like they look like they target various lymphocyte populations. So there are opportunities for lymphocytopenia type diseases, so more to come. And I'll disclose a lot more information as we get it.
- Leland Gershell:
- Excellent. Thank you for taking the questions. Congratulations.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question comes from RK with H.C. Wainwright. Your line is open.
- Swayampakula Ramakanth:
- Thank you. Good morning, Paula, and a couple of quick questions. The first one on Waldenström. I think since ibrutinib, got got approved as the combination therapy as well, along with the detection app in 2018. The combination has been kind of moving more into the first line, first line therapy, but you're doing your study, just just a combination with ibrutinib. So how do you see your combination working within the therapeutic paradigm for this disease?
- Paula Ragan:
- Thanks RK I appreciate the question. I think there are some geographic differences. So what we've been hearing is certainly at ibrutinib is still used single agent, sometimes in the frontline setting, and certainly in a second line setting in the U.S. and has some shifts to do that as well as in Europe. We recognize the ibrutinib plus Rituximab sort of frontline paradigm. If you look at the data, and also we hear some input from our ex-U.S. clinicians, I think most people experience protects Rituximab offering very little to the combination, and effectively are prioritizing ibrutinib in that frontline setting. So I think that could actually bode well for us. It is still early, and you mentioned 2018 it's really only about two years into it. And it does take some time for the paradigm to settle in. But I think we're actually in very good shape with initially partnering with ibrutinib even in the event, that's a paradigm shift, I think CXCR4 antagonism partners more broadly with other types of mechanisms and agents and Waldenström's and even more broadly lymphoma. So in either regard, I think we're well positioned with this early data set to just show the power of CXCR4 antagonism and move forward from there.
- Swayampakula Ramakanth:
- Great, thank you for that. And then the second question is on SCN. So just as you discussed a little bit more in terms of better expectations from the from from the other indication in the middle of the year for Waldenström. So here in SCN I know you're not telling us specifically when in 2021. But what sort of what sort of -- efficacy, they're all some safety and those dose escalation that we'll see.
- Paula Ragan:
- Sure, so let me just remind you have the strategic importance of SCN. So Severe Congenital Neutropenia is ideally what we hope assuming WHIM is approved. We'd certainly like to explore the application of mavorixafor and other patients with these profound neutropenia, and lymphopenia’s and SCN is a natural first place to explore. So strategically, that the timing on the data still continues to fit well with the overall timing of our global efforts around mavorixafor. So as we as we think about the data this year, SCN, the SCN trial has probably been the most complicated, and due to COVID, because of the duration of the trial. It is a two week dosing period, which offers little opportunity to provide clinical benefit for patients. And we respect that. It is really a translational study that will correlate a piece of genetic profile with a response after two weeks of dosing. So at the end of the day, we need to be respectful of the patient dynamics, given the global and once in 100 year pandemic that we're all experiencing. So we so we will have some initial data towards the end of the year. And we'll provide more color on that as we gain better clarity.
- Swayampakula Ramakanth:
- Perfect, thank you very much. And good luck.
- Paula Ragan:
- Thank you so much RK.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question comes from Mayank Mamtani with B. Riley Securities. Your line is now open.
- Unidentified Analyst:
- Hi, good morning team. This is for Mayank. Congrats on all the progress. A couple of brief questions for us. Could you discuss a little bit about the IgM response kinetics and kind of how you see the levels, or how you think about the levels potentially evolving over time from this initial readout relative to kind of what we can expect to see at the end of the year. And then briefly on WHIM, if you could just give us a little bit of color in the enrollment dynamic in terms of U.S. versus ex-U.S. any considerations for the pandemic that you alluded to in the ScN program, as it relates to maybe missed doses?
- Paula Ragan:
- Sure, so I think the first question was around sort of IgM level kinetics and benchmark to help you appreciate ibrutinib with that, did I catch that correctly?
- Unidentified Analyst:
- Yes, exactly.
- Paula Ragan:
- Okay. So I'll begin and then I'll ask Diego to also chime in. But there are actually some very good references. Ibrutinib has been well studied in the Waldenström population. Dr. Steve Treon is considered one of the global experts in this area. And thankfully, he is one of the key investigators on our trial. Dr. Treon’s translational work has shown that patients with the CXCR4 mutations have IgM drops that are dramatically different than those patients without CXCR4 and just a few references for those folks on the phone. There's a great publication by Dr. Treon and blood of 2017, that actually splits up the kinetics of IgM versus time for the two different types of populations. So it'll be it's a great benchmark for us, because we understand what patients do on ibrutinib, with the CXCR4 mutation and without, and ideally, our treatment with mavorixafor could correct for that and change these patients from double mutants to look more like the kinetics of single mutants. And that's some of the, efforts that were going on now to measure and benchmark. So I hope that was helpful. I think the second question was a little bit around the pandemics impact on a WHIM trial. So I do think there are differences there. Certainly the WHIM trial provides the potential for clinical benefit. If we reflect on our Phase 2 data that's been published, it has certainly strong suggestions of rejections and infection rates and some of the quality of having WHIM syndrome. So there is reason to be motivated and committed to this trial, which we've certainly seen our break patients step forward with. And because we've certainly had these broad relationships with Kalos over the years, and their patients, we feel like that relationship is certainly one of the key thing is that we continue to respect and appreciate and support hitting our enrollment targets, which are nicely on track for this year.
- Unidentified Analyst:
- It's very helpful. Thanks for taking our question.
- Paula Ragan:
- Absolutely.
- Operator:
- Thank you. Our next question comes from Zegbeh Jallah with Roth Capital Partners. Your line is now open.
- Zegbeh Jallah:
- Good morning, guys. Just wanted to quickly confirm, Paula, if we're going to see any kind of highlights from the larger interim data before a presentation, our medical meeting and then also are we to expect any updates or data progress or your partnership with Abbisko this year?
- Paula Ragan:
- So why don't I invite Diego into comments about our plans around the Waldenström data given his connection with our investigators, and then I'll take the other question.
- Diego Cadavid:
- Yes, thank you, Paula. So we are looking to do an initial, a public disclosure of the Waldenström Phase 1b data towards the end of H1, most likely at EHA that will report on initial safety PK, and PV we have a very good pharmacodynamic marker and, and some initial data on the Serum IgM and hemoglobin, which are really helpful biomarkers. Later in the year, most likely at ASH, we plan to have a second presentation it shooting to more patients, and longer follow up including an assessment of responses, including bone marrow and whole body CTs. And both of these presentations will be able to be compared with the benchmarks from ibrutinib monotherapy in double mutant populations. So we believe that will help us assess the emerging efficacy of mavorixafor in these this type of lymphoma, which has obviously a high unmet need as they are they really the sickest or we use that information to decide on next steps. Regarding the partnership with Abbisko, Paula, could you take that one?
- Paula Ragan:
- Oh, thank you Diego, yes. So the Abbisko partnership is advancing. I would, I would bet that we'll be able to provide more clear updates towards the end of 2021. But it's launching nicely. And as we gain clarity, we'll look forward to sharing more details at a future point.
- Zegbeh Jallah:
- Got it Paula, and thanks for all the updates.
- Paula Ragan:
- Thank you.
- Operator:
- Thank you. I'm not showing any further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Paula Ragan for closing remarks.
- Paula Ragan:
- Thank you so much for joining everyone this morning. I hope you all continue to remain safe and healthy. And if you have any follow up questions. We'd be happy to answer those offline. Thank you again and I hope you enjoy the rest of your day. Goodbye.
- Operator:
- Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.
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